<134u9obohr3hj01@corp.supernews.com>On Thu, 17 May 2007
19:19:39 -0700,
in article <134q39sh734150e@corp.supernews.com>,
servitum <ser.vitum@xprt.net> wrote:
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Offer your definition (are you a coward?) of trinity doctrine, and I
will deny it, and demonstrate that it is a lie of Satan.
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And here, Owd shows he has already reached his conclusion,
before he even knows what we are going to claim. This is his
MO. He decides what he wants reality to be beforehand, then
imposes this conclusion on both the Bible and what others say,
regardless of what lies he has to make in the process:
Case in point:
"I joined the Navy in 1958, and took part in a test of
missiles launched from the sea in the fall of that year. I
realized later that those were the prototype of the
submarine-launched Polaris Nuclear weapons.
After I left the U.S. Navy, my life was more or less normal,
except I was convinced that nuclear weapons would be used some
day. Because of my confidence in God's Word, I searched it for
evidence that the weapons I had seen tested would be used. I
discovered scriptural evidence that Nuclear weapons will be
used. However, I was unable to find an understandable clue to
the time or circumstance."
(http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12288.htm)
1) Owd saw some nuclear weapons being tested.
2) Owd concluded these would be used some day to fulfill
prophecy.
3) Owd went to the Bible to see if he could find a passage he
could read these ideas into.
This is called "eisegesis", or reading something into the
Bible, or other people's words, instead of drawing the meaning
out of the Bible, which is exegesis, and is apparently how Owd
derives his historicist conclusions about what prophecy
*really* means.
And now, to answer Owd's question, we don't need the word
"trinity", or "triune". There are two simple Bible facts
which reveal who God is.
1) There is only one God (Deut. 6:4).
2) The Father, Son, and Spirit are "God" (1 Cor. 8:6; John
1:1ff.; Heb. 1:8-10; Acts 5:3-4).
3) "God" means the same thing in each case, not different
things when applied to Christ and the Holy Spirit (e.g. John
1:1).
I don't need the word "trinity", or "triune", Owd. You either
deny God is one, or you deny the Son and Spirit are God in the
same sense as the Father. It's that simple. Which is it?
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Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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