Religions > Bible > Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation"
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30 Jun 2007 06:07:36 PM |
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Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible, even chance combinations of random chemicals to form the stunning complexities
of reproducing life."
"Modern physics is now considering a theory that could throw into confusion virtually all of the
accepted temporal paradigms of 20th-century science, including the age of the universe and the
billions of years necessary for evolution. Further, it raises the distinct possibility that
scientific validation exists for a (gasp) literal interpretation of the seminal passages of Genesis.
Goodbye Scopes trial."
"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant, as we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance of time."
"Within the last 24 months, Dr. Joao Magueijo, a physicist at Imperial College in London, Dr. John
Barrow of Cambridge, Dr. Andy Albrecht of the University of California at Davis and Dr. John Moffat
of the University of Toronto have all published work advocating their belief that light speed was
much higher - as much as 10 to the 10th power faster - in the early stages of the "Big Bang" than it
is today. (It's important to note that none of these researchers have expressed any bias toward a
predetermined. answer, biblical or otherwise. If anything, they are antagonistic toward a biblical
worldview.)"
Jd
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02 Jul 2007 11:47:33 AM |
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"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant, as we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance of time."
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If this was a serious theory it would have been all over the
Newspaper,
as "Einstein disproven"
Apparently - like most people - you do not understand the theory of
relativity.
In order to measure speed, we need to synchronize clocks
in order to synchronize clocks we need to assume the speed of light is
constant.
I slowing down of that speed simply could not be measured.
Peter van Velzen
July 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Milan" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
30 Jun 2007 08:30:37 PM |
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"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ...
billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible, even chance combinations of random chemicals to form
the stunning complexities
of reproducing life."
"Modern physics is now considering a theory that could throw into
confusion virtually all of the
accepted temporal paradigms of 20th-century science, including the age of
the universe and the
billions of years necessary for evolution. Further, it raises the distinct
possibility that
scientific validation exists for a (gasp) literal interpretation of the
seminal passages of Genesis.
Goodbye Scopes trial."
"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant, as
we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance of
time."
"Within the last 24 months, Dr. Joao Magueijo, a physicist at Imperial
College in London, Dr. John
Barrow of Cambridge, Dr. Andy Albrecht of the University of California at
Davis and Dr. John Moffat
of the University of Toronto have all published work advocating their
belief that light speed was
much higher - as much as 10 to the 10th power faster - in the early stages
of the "Big Bang" than it
is today. (It's important to note that none of these researchers have
expressed any bias toward a
predetermined. answer, biblical or otherwise. If anything, they are
antagonistic toward a biblical
worldview.)"
LOL. Big bang? What Big bang? Wasnt it your god who poofed the universe
into existence?
regards
Milan
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
01 Jul 2007 12:27:54 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:30:37 +0100, Milan wrote:
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons
... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible, even chance combinations of random chemicals to
form the stunning complexities
of reproducing life."
"Modern physics is now considering a theory that could throw into
confusion virtually all of the
accepted temporal paradigms of 20th-century science, including the age
of the universe and the
billions of years necessary for evolution. Further, it raises the
distinct possibility that
scientific validation exists for a (gasp) literal interpretation of the
seminal passages of Genesis.
Goodbye Scopes trial."
"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant,
as we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance
of time."
"Within the last 24 months, Dr. Joao Magueijo, a physicist at Imperial
College in London, Dr. John
Barrow of Cambridge, Dr. Andy Albrecht of the University of California
at Davis and Dr. John Moffat
of the University of Toronto have all published work advocating their
belief that light speed was
much higher - as much as 10 to the 10th power faster - in the early
stages of the "Big Bang" than it
is today. (It's important to note that none of these researchers have
expressed any bias toward a
predetermined. answer, biblical or otherwise. If anything, they are
antagonistic toward a biblical
worldview.)"
LOL. Big bang? What Big bang? Wasnt it your god who poofed the universe
into existence?
Maybe it was the Big Fart.
(God ate too many burritos)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
01 Jul 2007 07:27:13 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:30:37 +0100, Milan wrote:
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons
... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible, even chance combinations of random chemicals to
form the stunning complexities
of reproducing life."
"Modern physics is now considering a theory that could throw into
confusion virtually all of the
accepted temporal paradigms of 20th-century science, including the age
of the universe and the
billions of years necessary for evolution. Further, it raises the
distinct possibility that
scientific validation exists for a (gasp) literal interpretation of the
seminal passages of Genesis.
Goodbye Scopes trial."
"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant,
as we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance
of time."
"Within the last 24 months, Dr. Joao Magueijo, a physicist at Imperial
College in London, Dr. John
Barrow of Cambridge, Dr. Andy Albrecht of the University of California
at Davis and Dr. John Moffat
of the University of Toronto have all published work advocating their
belief that light speed was
much higher - as much as 10 to the 10th power faster - in the early
stages of the "Big Bang" than it
is today. (It's important to note that none of these researchers have
expressed any bias toward a
predetermined. answer, biblical or otherwise. If anything, they are
antagonistic toward a biblical
worldview.)"
LOL. Big bang? What Big bang? Wasnt it your god who poofed the universe
into existence?
Maybe it was the Big Fart.
(God ate too many burritos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0onv1gvsA
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| User: "John Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
30 Jun 2007 11:39:22 PM |
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"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
Basically, both you and the "World Nut Daily" are full of *****!
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ...
billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible, even chance combinations of random chemicals to form
the stunning complexities
of reproducing life."
"Modern physics is now considering a theory that could throw into
confusion virtually all of the
accepted temporal paradigms of 20th-century science, including the age of
the universe and the
billions of years necessary for evolution. Further, it raises the distinct
possibility that
scientific validation exists for a (gasp) literal interpretation of the
seminal passages of Genesis.
Goodbye Scopes trial."
"The theory is deceptively simple: The speed of light is not constant, as
we've been taught since
the early 1930s, but has been steadily slowing since the first instance of
time."
"Within the last 24 months, Dr. Joao Magueijo, a physicist at Imperial
College in London, Dr. John
Barrow of Cambridge, Dr. Andy Albrecht of the University of California at
Davis and Dr. John Moffat
of the University of Toronto have all published work advocating their
belief that light speed was
much higher - as much as 10 to the 10th power faster - in the early stages
of the "Big Bang" than it
is today. (It's important to note that none of these researchers have
expressed any bias toward a
predetermined. answer, biblical or otherwise. If anything, they are
antagonistic toward a biblical
worldview.)"
Jd
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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30 Jun 2007 07:13:13 PM |
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Hi Jd,
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be "constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ...
billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything suddenly
becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not suddenly
materialize next week, next month, next year, or next century. And 13
billion years from now, still no new car.
If a hurricane goes by, it's not going to assemble a 747 jet. Even if you
wait your whole lifetime for all hurricanes.. or 1,000 years for all
hurricanes.. or 13 billion years for all those hurricanse. Still not going
to assemble a 747 jet.
Life doesn't get created from lifelessness in nature. Didn't happen over the
past month, year, decade, century, or the thousands of years we've seen.
It's not suddenly going to happen just because 13 billion years go by.
One of the great "Gods" the evolutionists worship: the magical "13 billion
year God can create anything because it only takes time to do it". Those who
are more objective know better than to think time itself has inherent magic
in it.
God Bless!
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
02 Jul 2007 09:09:06 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tkChi.134295$Sa4.112976@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
Hi Jd,
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be
"constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons
... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how
complex biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But
to those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything
suddenly becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not
suddenly materialize next week, next month, next year, or next
century. And 13 billion years from now, still no new car.
And, if you leave your mouth shut, nobody will discover your stupidity!
Honestly, have you EVER encountered a self-replicating automobile or jet
plane? And, if you leave your garage empty and locked, if there is the
tiniest route in from the outside it will fill up with an entire ecology
of centipedes, insects, arachnids and probably the odd crustaceas, all
happily EVOLVING!
If a hurricane goes by, it's not going to assemble a 747 jet. Even if
you wait your whole lifetime for all hurricanes.. or 1,000 years for
all hurricanes.. or 13 billion years for all those hurricanse. Still
not going to assemble a 747 jet.
No, but if it took a bunch of creationists all praying to their false god
in one of their phony churches for the wind to miss them, that would
ACCIDENTALLY improve the human gene pool!
Life doesn't get created from lifelessness in nature. Didn't happen
over the past month, year, decade, century, or the thousands of years
we've seen. It's not suddenly going to happen just because 13 billion
years go by.
Life is chemistry. Whatever or Whoever framed the laws of physics in
this universe made chemistry possible.
One of the great "Gods" the evolutionists worship: the magical "13
billion year God can create anything because it only takes time to do
it". Those who are more objective know better than to think time
itself has inherent magic in it.
You're not even TRYING to be objective.
God Bless!
He did. He blessed scientists with brains to try to figure things out.
Apparently you weren't in that line but were over in the other one for
pseudo-Christian self-righteous pomposity.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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02 Jul 2007 09:22:47 AM |
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Hi Dave,
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns996148CB1FF57doldridgsprintca@64.59.135.159...
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tkChi.134295$Sa4.112976@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
Hi Jd,
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be
"constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons
... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how
complex biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But
to those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything
suddenly becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not
suddenly materialize next week, next month, next year, or next
century. And 13 billion years from now, still no new car.
And, if you leave your mouth shut, nobody will discover your stupidity!
Honestly, have you EVER encountered a self-replicating automobile or jet
plane?
Talking about the creation of something from nothing. The creation of this
life form from lifelessness dubbed the fancy name "primordial goo" .. or
more accurately pond scum. A life form so complex it is now capable of
morphing into the millions of utterly distint species of life we've known
throughout history.
It's a shame you respond with insults when it's clear you have no idea what
was even being discussed.
I wish you well.
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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03 Jul 2007 10:34:41 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:XS7ii.262409$p47.224198@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
Hi Dave,
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns996148CB1FF57doldridgsprintca@64.59.135.159...
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tkChi.134295$Sa4.112976@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
Hi Jd,
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:opvd83dkebovk1jjmpn1h4o297ueccdmv9@4ax.com...
Basically in that the speed of light may not actually be
"constant"....
***Speed of light slowing down?***
Chris Bennett - WorldNetDaily.com
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time -
eons ... billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how
complex biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But
to those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you
can grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything
suddenly becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not
suddenly materialize next week, next month, next year, or next
century. And 13 billion years from now, still no new car.
And, if you leave your mouth shut, nobody will discover your
stupidity!
Honestly, have you EVER encountered a self-replicating automobile or
jet plane?
Talking about the creation of something from nothing. The creation of
this life form from lifelessness dubbed the fancy name "primordial
goo" .. or more accurately pond scum. A life form so complex it is now
capable of morphing into the millions of utterly distint species of
life we've known throughout history.
Life is chemistry. Wherever there is matter and energy there is
chemistry of somee kind. Complexity is not anything particularly
remarkable. Mathematically, INFINITE complexity results from a whole
array of simple iterations.
It's a shame you respond with insults when it's clear you have no idea
what was even being discussed.
Then don't try to insult my intelligence with drivel. It's clear YOU
have no idea what you're blathering about and would rather hold the coats
of heretics and liars than actually learn about these things.
Whether life was "poofed" into existence by a deity or arose from the
natural laws of physics and chemistry in operation on a small planet
circling a G-type star in a relatively benign zone in one galaxy among
billions is irrelevant when it comes to the scientific question of
whether life is evolving NOW by means of mutation and natural selection
and whether, in the past, humans and chimps share a common ancestral gene
pool. All these FACTS can be determined by examining things in the REAL
WORLD, not your imaginary world of rhetorical magicks (and watch it with
the magicks, son, they can come back and bite you)...
I wish you well.
I'm not sure I actually believe you. Your behaviour would indicate
otherwise...
But *I* do wish you would examine your conscience with a little more
objectivity and stop holding the coats of excommunicate liars.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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| User: "Elijahovah" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
21 Jul 2007 08:52:25 PM |
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"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ...
billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything suddenly
becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not suddenly
materialize next week, next month, next year, or next century. And 13
billion years from now, still no new car.
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid, we do not
expect a Mercedes to come from an empty garage. Everyone knows
a Ford came first before it takes 30 million years to evolve into a
Rambler, and at least another 20 million to evolve into a Mercedes.
And then you want a hurricane to come at 65 million and destroy
all those dinosaurs, i mean Corvairs. Youre not right upstairs.
ELIJAH
If a hurricane goes by, it's not going to assemble a 747 jet. Even if you
wait your whole lifetime for all hurricanes.. or 1,000 years for all
hurricanes.. or 13 billion years for all those hurricanse. Still not going
to assemble a 747 jet.
Everyone knows the 747 evolved first as a Cessna in a hanger before
they could handle the afternoon breeze without flipping over.
And besides smashing upside down just might create a new
advantage that gets passed on to the next plane.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
21 Jul 2007 09:46:19 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:25 -0700, Elijahovah
<rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
"The theory of evolution requires unfathomable lengths of time - eons ...
billions and billions of
years. Even with all that time, it's still hard to imagine how complex
biochemicals such as
hemoglobin or chlorophyll self assembled in the primordial goo. But to
those of us who question the
process, the answer is always the same. Time. More time than you can
grasp - timespans so vast that
anything is possible,
This is the common deception they throw out there: that anything suddenly
becomes possible just because vast amounts of time pass.
If you leave your garage empty and locked, a new mercedes will not suddenly
materialize next week, next month, next year, or next century. And 13
billion years from now, still no new car.
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Physics now questions the ToE, advances biblical "Creation" |
21 Jul 2007 10:00:15 PM |
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Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elijahovah <rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
The only people who reject it are idiots like you. Proof positive
that religion rots the brain like crack cocaine.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: A sampling of PhDs who reject evolution |
21 Jul 2007 11:26:02 PM |
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HI Elroy,
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:5sh5a39mvgsdrq467r4fp1i6dlbmrodsr7@4ax.com...
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elijahovah <rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
The only people who reject it are idiots like you. Proof positive
that religion rots the brain like crack cocaine.
Here's an ever-growing sample of people present and past with PhD's who have
accepted the Biblical account of creation. Showing how education actually
leads people to God.
Are there people with PhDs who do not support creation by God? Of course
there are. But don't let them tell you hardly anyone with an education would
believe in God and creationism. Here is just a sampling of people out there
who do just that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/
Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation
Dr. Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
Dr. E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
Dr. James Allan, Geneticist
Dr. Steve Austin, Geologist
Dr. S.E. Aw, Biochemist
Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist
Dr. Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
Dr. Don Batten, Plant physiologist, tropical fruit expert
Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist,
expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
Dr. Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
Dr. Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology
Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology
Dr. Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist
Dr. Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology
Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
Dr. David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer
Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
Dr. David Catchpoole, Plant Physiologist (read his testimony)
Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics
Dr. Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
Dr. Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering
Dr. Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist (interview)
Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education
Dr. John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
Dr. Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist
Dr. Bob Compton, DVM
Dr. Ken Cumming, Biologist
Dr. Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
Dr. William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics
Dr. Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering
Dr. Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist
Dr. Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
Dr. Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist
Dr. Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
Dr. Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
Dr. Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry
Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
Dr. David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
Dr. Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
Dr. David Down, Field Archaeologist
Dr. Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr. Ted Driggers, Operations research
Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
Dr. André Eggen, Geneticist
Dr. Dudley Eirich, Molecular Biologist
Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
Dr. Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science
Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
Dr. Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
Dr. Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
Dr. Warwick Glover, General Surgeon
Dr. D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
Dr. Robin Greer, Chemist, History
Dr. Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
Dr. Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist
Dr. Donald Hamann, Food Scientist
Dr. Barry Harker, Philosopher
Dr. Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics
Dr. John Hartnett, Physicist and Cosmologist
Dr. Mark Harwood, Satellite Communications
Dr. George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
Dr. Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
Dr. Harold R. Henry, Engineer
Dr. Jonathan Henry, Astronomy
Dr. Joseph Henson, Entomologist
Dr. Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy
Dr. Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
Dr. Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
Dr. Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
Dr. Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
Dr. George F. Howe, Botany
Dr. Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist
Dr. Russell Humphreys, Physicist
Dr. James A. Huggins, Professor and Chair, Department of Biology
Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy
George T. Javor, Biochemistry
Dr. Pierre Jerlström, Creationist Molecular Biologist
Dr. Arthur Jones, Biology
Dr. Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon
Dr. Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist
Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology
Dr. Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics
Dr. Dean Kenyon, Biologist
Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology
Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science
Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry
Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science
Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering
Dr. John W. Klotz, Biologist
Dr. Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology
Dr. Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology
Dr. John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry
Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics
Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology
Dr. John Leslie, Biochemist
Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics
Dr. Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist
Dr. Alan Love, Chemist
Dr. Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist and microbiologist:
Dr. John Marcus, Molecular Biologist
Dr. George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher
Dr. Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist
Dr. John McEwan, Chemist
Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics
Dr. David Menton, Anatomist
Dr. Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr. John Meyer, Physiologist
Dr. Albert Mills, Animal Embryologist/Reproductive Physiologist
Colin W. Mitchell, Geography
Dr. Tommy Mitchell, Physician
Dr. John N. Moore, Science Educator
Dr. John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer and Dentist
Dr. Henry M. Morris (1918-2006), founder of the Institute for Creation
Research.
Dr. Arlton C. Murray, Paleontologist
Dr. John D. Morris, Geologist
Dr. Len Morris, Physiologist
Dr. Graeme Mortimer, Geologist
Dr. Terry Mortenson, History of Geology
Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
Prof. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering
Dr. Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher
Dr. David Oderberg, Philosopher
Prof. John Oller, Linguistics
Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
Dr. John Osgood, Medical Practitioner
Dr. Charles Pallaghy, Botanist
Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
Dr. David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon
Prof. Richard Porter
Dr. Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
Dr. John Rankin, Cosmologist
Dr. A.S. Reece, M.D.
Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
Dr. Jung-Goo Roe, Biology
Dr. David Rosevear, Chemist
Dr. Ariel A. Roth, Biology
Dr. Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist
Dr. Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist:
Dr. Ian Scott, Educator
Dr. Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist
Dr. Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry
Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science
Dr. Mikhail Shulgin, Physics
Dr. Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist
Dr. Roger Simpson, Engineer
Dr. Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
Dr. E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist
Arthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915-1995) Three science doctorates; a creation
science pioneer
Dr. Andrew Snelling, Geologist
Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science
Dr. Timothy G. Standish, Biology
Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
Dr. Esther Su, Biochemistry
Dr. Charles Taylor, Linguistics
Dr. Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
Dr. Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
Dr. Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
Dr. Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry
Dr. Royal Truman, Organic Chemist:
Dr. Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist
Dr. Joachim Vetter, Biologist
Sir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892-1979) Surgeon
Dr. Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer and Geologist
Dr. Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer
Dr. Keith Wanser, Physicist
Dr. Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology)
Dr. A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
Dr. John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist
Dr. Carl Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr. Lara Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr. Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist and archaeologist
Dr. Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist
Dr. Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist
Prof. Verna Wright, Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)
Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics
Dr. Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Ph.D., Creationist Aerospace & Mechanical
Engineering
Dr. Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics
Dr. Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology
Dr. Patrick Young, Chemist and Materials Scientist
Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography
Dr. Henry Zuill, Biology
Is there evidence of discrimination against creation scientists?
Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview
Do creation scientists publish in secular journals?
Do creationists publish in notable refereed journals?
Bias in higher education
Peer pressure and truth
Revolutionary Atmospheric Invention by Victim of Anti-creationist
Discrimination
Science magazine refuses to hire creationist
The not-so-Nobel decision
The tyranny of 'tolerance'
View scientists of the past who believed in a Creator
Which scientists of the past believed in a Creator?
Note: These scientists are sorted by birth year.
Early
Francis Bacon (1561-1626) Scientific method. However, see also
Culture Wars:
Part 1: Bacon vs Ham
Part 2: Ham vs Bacon
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) (WOH) Physics, Astronomy (see also The Galileo
'twist' and The Galileo affair: history or heroic hagiography?
Johann Kepler (1571-1630) (WOH) Scientific astronomy
Athanasius Kircher (1601-1680) Inventor
John Wilkins (1614-1672)
Walter Charleton (1619-1707) President of the Royal College of Physicians
Blaise Pascal (biography page) and article from Creation magazine
(1623-1662) Hydrostatics; Barometer
Sir William Petty (1623 -1687) Statistics; Scientific economics
Robert Boyle (1627-1691) (WOH) Chemistry; Gas dynamics
John Ray (1627-1705) Natural history
Isaac Barrow (1630-1677) Professor of Mathematics
Nicolas Steno (1631-1686) Stratigraphy
Thomas Burnet (1635-1715) Geology
Increase Mather (1639-1723) Astronomy
Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) Medical Doctor, Botany
The Age of Newton
Isaac Newton (1642-1727) (WOH) Dynamics; Calculus; Gravitation law;
Reflecting telescope; Spectrum of light (wrote more about the Bible than
science, and emphatically affirmed a Creator. Some have accused him of
Arianism, but it's likely he held to a heterodox form of the Trinity-See
Pfizenmaier, T.C., Was Isaac Newton an Arian? Journal of the History of
Ideas 68(1):57-80, 1997)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646-1716) Mathematician
John Flamsteed (1646-1719) Greenwich Observatory Founder; Astronomy
William Derham (1657-1735) Ecology
Cotton Mather (1662-1727) Physician
John Harris (1666-1719) Mathematician
John Woodward (1665-1728) Paleontology
William Whiston (1667-1752) Physics, Geology
John Hutchinson (1674-1737) Paleontology
Johathan Edwards (1703-1758) Physics, Meteorology
Carolus Linneaus (1707-1778) Taxonomy; Biological classification system
Jean Deluc (1727-1817) Geology
Richard Kirwan (1733-1812) Mineralogy
William Herschel (1738-1822) Galactic astronomy; Uranus (probably believed
in an old-earth)
James Parkinson (1755-1824) Physician (old-earth compromiser*)
John Dalton (1766-1844) Atomic theory; Gas law
John Kidd, M.D. (1775-1851) Chemical synthetics (old-earth compromiser*)
Just Before Darwin
The 19th Century Scriptural Geologists, by Dr. Terry Mortenson
Timothy Dwight (1752-1817) Educator
William Kirby (1759-1850) Entomologist
Jedidiah Morse (1761-1826) Geographer
Benjamin Barton (1766-1815) Botanist; Zoologist
John Dalton (1766-1844) Father of the Modern Atomic Theory; Chemistry
Georges Cuvier (1769-1832) Comparative anatomy, paleontology (old-earth
compromiser*)
Samuel Miller (1770-1840) Clergy
Charles Bell (1774-1842) Anatomist
John Kidd (1775-1851) Chemistry
Humphrey Davy (1778-1829) Thermokinetics; Safety lamp
Benjamin Silliman (1779-1864) Mineralogist (old-earth compromiser*)
Peter Mark Roget (1779-1869) Physician; Physiologist
Thomas Chalmers (1780-1847) Professor (old-earth compromiser*)
David Brewster (1781-1868) Optical mineralogy, Kaleidoscope (probably
believed in an old-earth)
William Buckland (1784-1856) Geologist (old-earth compromiser*)
William Prout (1785-1850) Food chemistry (probably believed in an old-earth)
Adam Sedgwick (1785-1873) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
Michael Faraday (1791-1867) (WOH) Electro magnetics; Field theory, Generator
Samuel F.B. Morse (1791-1872) Telegraph
John Herschel (1792-1871) Astronomy (old-earth compromiser*)
Edward Hitchcock (1793-1864) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
William Whewell (1794-1866) Anemometer (old-earth compromiser*)
Joseph Henry (1797-1878) Electric motor; Galvanometer
Just After Darwin
Richard Owen (1804-1892) Zoology; Paleontology (old-earth compromiser*)
Matthew Maury (1806-1873) Oceanography, Hydrography (probably believed in an
old-earth*)
Louis Agassiz (1807-1873) Glaciology, Ichthyology (old-earth compromiser,
polygenist*)
Henry Rogers (1808-1866) Geology
James Glaisher (1809-1903) Meteorology
Philip H. Gosse (1810-1888) Ornithologist; Zoology
Sir Henry Rawlinson (1810-1895) Archeologist
James Simpson (1811-1870) Gynecology, Anesthesiology
James Dana (1813-1895) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
Sir Joseph Henry Gilbert (1817-1901) Agricultural Chemist
James Joule (1818-1889) Thermodynamics
Thomas Anderson (1819-1874) Chemist
Charles Piazzi Smyth (1819-1900) Astronomy
George Stokes (1819-1903) Fluid Mechanics
John William Dawson (1820-1899) Geology (probably believed in an old-earth*)
Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902) Pathology
Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) (WOH) Genetics
Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) (WOH) Bacteriology, Biochemistry; Sterilization;
Immunization
Henri Fabre (1823-1915) Entomology of living insects
William Thompson, Lord Kelvin (1824-1907) Energetics; Absolute temperatures;
Atlantic cable (believed in an older earth than the Bible indicates, but far
younger than the evolutionists wanted*)
William Huggins (1824-1910) Astral spectrometry
Bernhard Riemann (1826-1866) Non-Euclidean geometries
Joseph Lister (1827-1912) Antiseptic surgery
Balfour Stewart (1828-1887) Ionospheric electricity
James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) (WOH) Electrodynamics; Statistical
thermodynamics
P.G. Tait (1831-1901) Vector analysis
John Bell Pettigrew (1834-1908) Anatomist; Physiologist
John Strutt, Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919) Similitude; Model Analysis; Inert
Gases
Sir William Abney (1843-1920) Astronomy
Alexander MacAlister (1844-1919) Anatomy
A.H. Sayce (1845-1933) Archeologist
John Ambrose Fleming (1849-1945) Electronics; Electron tube; Thermionic
valve
Early Modern Period
Dr. Clifford Burdick, Geologist
George Washington Carver (1864-1943) Inventor
L. Merson Davies (1890-1960) Geology; Paleontology
Douglas Dewar (1875-1957) Ornithologist
Howard A. Kelly (1858-1943) Gynecology
Paul Lemoine (1878-1940) Geology
Dr. Frank Marsh, Biology
Dr. John Mann, Agriculturist, biological control pioneer
Edward H. Maunder (1851-1928) Astronomy
William Mitchell Ramsay (1851-1939) Archeologist
William Ramsay (1852-1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutation
Charles Stine (1882-1954) Organic Chemist
Dr. Arthur Rendle-Short (1885-1955) Surgeon
Dr. Larry Butler, Biochemist
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u%Aoi.1129$iX3.869@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
HI Elroy,
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:5sh5a39mvgsdrq467r4fp1i6dlbmrodsr7@4ax.com...
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elijahovah <rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
The only people who reject it are idiots like you. Proof positive
that religion rots the brain like crack cocaine.
Here's an ever-growing sample of people present and past with PhD's who
have accepted the Biblical account of creation. Showing how education
actually leads people to God.
Having a Ph.D does not make you an expert in evolutionary theory. Most of
the people on this list are not biologists.
BTW - How many Steve's do you have? Here are 816 scientists with degrees and
named Steve (or a variation thereof) that support evolutionary theory. Note
how many of them are actually BIOLOGISTS.
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/3697_the_list_2_16_2003.asp
Are there people with PhDs who do not support creation by God? Of course
there are. But don't let them tell you hardly anyone with an education
would
believe in God and creationism. Here is just a sampling of people out
there
who do just that.
No, having a GOOD education and THINKING will lead you to discard
creationism and most fundamentalist dogma.
I see the errors still remain:
Dr. Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist
"Any claim by Mr. Shaibani that he is now a member of, or even affiliated
with, the Temple University Department of Physics is fraudulent," read a
Sept. 27, 2001, letter from Edward Gawlinski, chair of the Temple University
physics department. "Furthermore, at least once a year I have to write this
sort of letter when Mr. Shaibani again tries to establish his bona fides as
an expert witness by claiming he is a member of the Physics Department."
http://www.courttv.com/trials/novelist/092603_ctv.html
Dr. Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
Slusher claims to hold an honorary D.Sc. from Indiana Christian University
and a Ph.D. in geophysics from Columbia Pacific University. Robert
Schadewald discovered that Indiana Christian University is a Bible College
with only a 1/2 man graduate science department. As for Columbia Pacific, it
"exhibits several qualities of a degree mill" [Steve Levikoff, Name It and
Frame It? New Opportunities in Adult Education and How to Avoid Being Ripped
Off by 'Christian' Degree Mills, 4th ed. (1995)]. Ronald Numbers describes
CPU as
an unaccredited correspondence school that recruited students with the
lure of a degree "in less than a year." Slusher's dissertation consisted of
a manila folder containing copies of five memographed ICR "technical
monographs" and a copy of the ICR graduate school catalog, all held together
with a rubber band. The supervising professor was his creationist colleague
from El Paso and the ICR, [Thomas] Barnes, who himself possessed only an
honorary doctorate. [Ronald Numbers, The Creationists: The Evolution of
Scientific Creationism (University of California Press, Berkeley, 1991)]
According to Bears' Guide [John B. Bear and Mariah P. Bear, Bears' Guide to
Earning College Degrees Nontraditionally (C&B Publishing, Benicia,
California 1997)], Columbia Pacific was denied its application for state
license renewal in early 1996 for undisclosed reasons. The university
appealed the decision in late 1996, but the appeal had not been acted upon
by the time Bears' Guide went to press.
More refutations here:
http://members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/lies/lie014.html
James Powell
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Gabriel wrote:
HI Elroy,
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:5sh5a39mvgsdrq467r4fp1i6dlbmrodsr7@4ax.com...
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elijahovah <rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
The only people who reject it are idiots like you. Proof positive
that religion rots the brain like crack cocaine.
Here's an ever-growing sample of people present and past with PhD's who have
accepted the Biblical account of creation. Showing how education actually
leads people to God.
How many religious people accepted evolution as they
obtained more education? I would bet it's FAR more than
your paltry list.
Are there people with PhDs who do not support creation by God? Of course
there are. But don't let them tell you hardly anyone with an education would
believe in God and creationism. Here is just a sampling of people out there
who do just that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/
Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation
Dr. Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
Dr. E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
Dr. James Allan, Geneticist
Dr. Steve Austin, Geologist
Dr. S.E. Aw, Biochemist
Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist
Dr. Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
Dr. Don Batten, Plant physiologist, tropical fruit expert
Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist,
expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
Dr. Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
Dr. Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology
Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology
Dr. Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist
Dr. Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology
Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
Dr. David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer
Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
Dr. David Catchpoole, Plant Physiologist (read his testimony)
Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics
Dr. Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
Dr. Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering
Dr. Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist (interview)
Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education
Dr. John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
Dr. Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist
Dr. Bob Compton, DVM
Dr. Ken Cumming, Biologist
Dr. Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
Dr. William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics
Dr. Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering
Dr. Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist
Dr. Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
Dr. Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist
Dr. Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
Dr. Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
Dr. Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry
Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
Dr. David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
Dr. Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
Dr. David Down, Field Archaeologist
Dr. Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr. Ted Driggers, Operations research
Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
Dr. André Eggen, Geneticist
Dr. Dudley Eirich, Molecular Biologist
Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
Dr. Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science
Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
Dr. Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
Dr. Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
Dr. Warwick Glover, General Surgeon
Dr. D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
Dr. Robin Greer, Chemist, History
Dr. Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
Dr. Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist
Dr. Donald Hamann, Food Scientist
Dr. Barry Harker, Philosopher
Dr. Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics
Dr. John Hartnett, Physicist and Cosmologist
Dr. Mark Harwood, Satellite Communications
Dr. George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
Dr. Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
Dr. Harold R. Henry, Engineer
Dr. Jonathan Henry, Astronomy
Dr. Joseph Henson, Entomologist
Dr. Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy
Dr. Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
Dr. Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
Dr. Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
Dr. Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
Dr. George F. Howe, Botany
Dr. Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist
Dr. Russell Humphreys, Physicist
Dr. James A. Huggins, Professor and Chair, Department of Biology
Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy
George T. Javor, Biochemistry
Dr. Pierre Jerlström, Creationist Molecular Biologist
Dr. Arthur Jones, Biology
Dr. Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon
Dr. Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist
Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology
Dr. Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics
Dr. Dean Kenyon, Biologist
Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology
Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science
Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry
Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science
Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering
Dr. John W. Klotz, Biologist
Dr. Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology
Dr. Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology
Dr. John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry
Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics
Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology
Dr. John Leslie, Biochemist
Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics
Dr. Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist
Dr. Alan Love, Chemist
Dr. Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist and microbiologist:
Dr. John Marcus, Molecular Biologist
Dr. George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher
Dr. Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist
Dr. John McEwan, Chemist
Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics
Dr. David Menton, Anatomist
Dr. Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr. John Meyer, Physiologist
Dr. Albert Mills, Animal Embryologist/Reproductive Physiologist
Colin W. Mitchell, Geography
Dr. Tommy Mitchell, Physician
Dr. John N. Moore, Science Educator
Dr. John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer and Dentist
Dr. Henry M. Morris (1918-2006), founder of the Institute for Creation
Research.
Dr. Arlton C. Murray, Paleontologist
Dr. John D. Morris, Geologist
Dr. Len Morris, Physiologist
Dr. Graeme Mortimer, Geologist
Dr. Terry Mortenson, History of Geology
Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
Prof. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering
Dr. Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher
Dr. David Oderberg, Philosopher
Prof. John Oller, Linguistics
Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
Dr. John Osgood, Medical Practitioner
Dr. Charles Pallaghy, Botanist
Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
Dr. David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon
Prof. Richard Porter
Dr. Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
Dr. John Rankin, Cosmologist
Dr. A.S. Reece, M.D.
Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
Dr. Jung-Goo Roe, Biology
Dr. David Rosevear, Chemist
Dr. Ariel A. Roth, Biology
Dr. Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist
Dr. Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist:
Dr. Ian Scott, Educator
Dr. Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist
Dr. Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry
Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science
Dr. Mikhail Shulgin, Physics
Dr. Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist
Dr. Roger Simpson, Engineer
Dr. Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
Dr. E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist
Arthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915-1995) Three science doctorates; a creation
science pioneer
Dr. Andrew Snelling, Geologist
Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science
Dr. Timothy G. Standish, Biology
Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
Dr. Esther Su, Biochemistry
Dr. Charles Taylor, Linguistics
Dr. Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
Dr. Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
Dr. Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
Dr. Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry
Dr. Royal Truman, Organic Chemist:
Dr. Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist
Dr. Joachim Vetter, Biologist
Sir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892-1979) Surgeon
Dr. Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer and Geologist
Dr. Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer
Dr. Keith Wanser, Physicist
Dr. Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology)
Dr. A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
Dr. John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist
Dr. Carl Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr. Lara Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr. Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist and archaeologist
Dr. Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist
Dr. Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist
Prof. Verna Wright, Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)
Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics
Dr. Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Ph.D., Creationist Aerospace & Mechanical
Engineering
Dr. Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics
Dr. Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology
Dr. Patrick Young, Chemist and Materials Scientist
Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography
Dr. Henry Zuill, Biology
Is there evidence of discrimination against creation scientists?
Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview
Do creation scientists publish in secular journals?
Do creationists publish in notable refereed journals?
Bias in higher education
Peer pressure and truth
Revolutionary Atmospheric Invention by Victim of Anti-creationist
Discrimination
Science magazine refuses to hire creationist
The not-so-Nobel decision
The tyranny of 'tolerance'
View scientists of the past who believed in a Creator
Which scientists of the past believed in a Creator?
Note: These scientists are sorted by birth year.
Early
Francis Bacon (1561-1626) Scientific method. However, see also
Culture Wars:
Part 1: Bacon vs Ham
Part 2: Ham vs Bacon
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) (WOH) Physics, Astronomy (see also The Galileo
'twist' and The Galileo affair: history or heroic hagiography?
Johann Kepler (1571-1630) (WOH) Scientific astronomy
Athanasius Kircher (1601-1680) Inventor
John Wilkins (1614-1672)
Walter Charleton (1619-1707) President of the Royal College of Physicians
Blaise Pascal (biography page) and article from Creation magazine
(1623-1662) Hydrostatics; Barometer
Sir William Petty (1623 -1687) Statistics; Scientific economics
Robert Boyle (1627-1691) (WOH) Chemistry; Gas dynamics
John Ray (1627-1705) Natural history
Isaac Barrow (1630-1677) Professor of Mathematics
Nicolas Steno (1631-1686) Stratigraphy
Thomas Burnet (1635-1715) Geology
Increase Mather (1639-1723) Astronomy
Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) Medical Doctor, Botany
The Age of Newton
Isaac Newton (1642-1727) (WOH) Dynamics; Calculus; Gravitation law;
Reflecting telescope; Spectrum of light (wrote more about the Bible than
science, and emphatically affirmed a Creator. Some have accused him of
Arianism, but it's likely he held to a heterodox form of the Trinity-See
Pfizenmaier, T.C., Was Isaac Newton an Arian? Journal of the History of
Ideas 68(1):57-80, 1997)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646-1716) Mathematician
John Flamsteed (1646-1719) Greenwich Observatory Founder; Astronomy
William Derham (1657-1735) Ecology
Cotton Mather (1662-1727) Physician
John Harris (1666-1719) Mathematician
John Woodward (1665-1728) Paleontology
William Whiston (1667-1752) Physics, Geology
John Hutchinson (1674-1737) Paleontology
Johathan Edwards (1703-1758) Physics, Meteorology
Carolus Linneaus (1707-1778) Taxonomy; Biological classification system
Jean Deluc (1727-1817) Geology
Richard Kirwan (1733-1812) Mineralogy
William Herschel (1738-1822) Galactic astronomy; Uranus (probably believed
in an old-earth)
James Parkinson (1755-1824) Physician (old-earth compromiser*)
John Dalton (1766-1844) Atomic theory; Gas law
John Kidd, M.D. (1775-1851) Chemical synthetics (old-earth compromiser*)
Just Before Darwin
The 19th Century Scriptural Geologists, by Dr. Terry Mortenson
Timothy Dwight (1752-1817) Educator
William Kirby (1759-1850) Entomologist
Jedidiah Morse (1761-1826) Geographer
Benjamin Barton (1766-1815) Botanist; Zoologist
John Dalton (1766-1844) Father of the Modern Atomic Theory; Chemistry
Georges Cuvier (1769-1832) Comparative anatomy, paleontology (old-earth
compromiser*)
Samuel Miller (1770-1840) Clergy
Charles Bell (1774-1842) Anatomist
John Kidd (1775-1851) Chemistry
Humphrey Davy (1778-1829) Thermokinetics; Safety lamp
Benjamin Silliman (1779-1864) Mineralogist (old-earth compromiser*)
Peter Mark Roget (1779-1869) Physician; Physiologist
Thomas Chalmers (1780-1847) Professor (old-earth compromiser*)
David Brewster (1781-1868) Optical mineralogy, Kaleidoscope (probably
believed in an old-earth)
William Buckland (1784-1856) Geologist (old-earth compromiser*)
William Prout (1785-1850) Food chemistry (probably believed in an old-earth)
Adam Sedgwick (1785-1873) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
Michael Faraday (1791-1867) (WOH) Electro magnetics; Field theory, Generator
Samuel F.B. Morse (1791-1872) Telegraph
John Herschel (1792-1871) Astronomy (old-earth compromiser*)
Edward Hitchcock (1793-1864) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
William Whewell (1794-1866) Anemometer (old-earth compromiser*)
Joseph Henry (1797-1878) Electric motor; Galvanometer
Just After Darwin
Richard Owen (1804-1892) Zoology; Paleontology (old-earth compromiser*)
Matthew Maury (1806-1873) Oceanography, Hydrography (probably believed in an
old-earth*)
Louis Agassiz (1807-1873) Glaciology, Ichthyology (old-earth compromiser,
polygenist*)
Henry Rogers (1808-1866) Geology
James Glaisher (1809-1903) Meteorology
Philip H. Gosse (1810-1888) Ornithologist; Zoology
Sir Henry Rawlinson (1810-1895) Archeologist
James Simpson (1811-1870) Gynecology, Anesthesiology
James Dana (1813-1895) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
Sir Joseph Henry Gilbert (1817-1901) Agricultural Chemist
James Joule (1818-1889) Thermodynamics
Thomas Anderson (1819-1874) Chemist
Charles Piazzi Smyth (1819-1900) Astronomy
George Stokes (1819-1903) Fluid Mechanics
John William Dawson (1820-1899) Geology (probably believed in an old-earth*)
Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902) Pathology
Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) (WOH) Genetics
Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) (WOH) Bacteriology, Biochemistry; Sterilization;
Immunization
Henri Fabre (1823-1915) Entomology of living insects
William Thompson, Lord Kelvin (1824-1907) Energetics; Absolute temperatures;
Atlantic cable (believed in an older earth than the Bible indicates, but far
younger than the evolutionists wanted*)
William Huggins (1824-1910) Astral spectrometry
Bernhard Riemann (1826-1866) Non-Euclidean geometries
Joseph Lister (1827-1912) Antiseptic surgery
Balfour Stewart (1828-1887) Ionospheric electricity
James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) (WOH) Electrodynamics; Statistical
thermodynamics
P.G. Tait (1831-1901) Vector analysis
John Bell Pettigrew (1834-1908) Anatomist; Physiologist
John Strutt, Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919) Similitude; Model Analysis; Inert
Gases
Sir William Abney (1843-1920) Astronomy
Alexander MacAlister (1844-1919) Anatomy
A.H. Sayce (1845-1933) Archeologist
John Ambrose Fleming (1849-1945) Electronics; Electron tube; Thermionic
valve
Early Modern Period
Dr. Clifford Burdick, Geologist
George Washington Carver (1864-1943) Inventor
L. Merson Davies (1890-1960) Geology; Paleontology
Douglas Dewar (1875-1957) Ornithologist
Howard A. Kelly (1858-1943) Gynecology
Paul Lemoine (1878-1940) Geology
Dr. Frank Marsh, Biology
Dr. John Mann, Agriculturist, biological control pioneer
Edward H. Maunder (1851-1928) Astronomy
William Mitchell Ramsay (1851-1939) Archeologist
William Ramsay (1852-1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutation
Charles Stine (1882-1954) Organic Chemist
Dr. Arthur Rendle-Short (1885-1955) Surgeon
Dr. Larry Butler, Biochemist
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HI Iaah,
"IAAH" <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:b6edncWEr4okfD_bnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@giganews.com...
Gabriel wrote:
HI Elroy,
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:5sh5a39mvgsdrq467r4fp1i6dlbmrodsr7@4ax.com...
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elijahovah <rschiller@wi.rr.com> spoke thusly:
OF COURSE NOT, you make us evolutionists sound stupid
No, trying to wave the magic "time" wand makes you
sound stupid.
The only people who reject it are idiots like you. Proof positive
that religion rots the brain like crack cocaine.
Here's an ever-growing sample of people present and past with PhD's who
have accepted the Biblical account of creation. Showing how education
actually leads people to God.
How many religious people accepted evolution as they obtained more
education? I would bet it's FAR more than your paltry list.
The point of this list was told to you:
I said: "But don't let them tell you hardly anyone with an education would
believe in God and creationism." Many people with PhD's completely reject
evolution. My point proven. Many people reject evolution _because_ of
education. And I back this up with proof, much unlike evolutionists.
Now, rather than betting, just like you're "betting" your evolution religion
is true, and avoiding actually providing proof, much like many (not all)
atheists do while arguing about their religion of evolution, why don't you
back up your wishful thinking by showing such a list. At least then you'd
show yourself worth listening to as you're not just providing wishful
thinking.
It doesn't prove anything either way, but at least you'd finally show
yourself willing to stop just "betting" on your religion, and at least
trying to provide actual proof, rather than just the _belief_ that you have
actual
proof.
Are there people with PhDs who do not support creation by God? Of course
there are. But don't let them tell you hardly anyone with an education
would
believe in God and creationism. Here is just a sampling of people out
there
who do just that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/
Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation
Dr. Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
Dr. E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
Dr. James Allan, Geneticist
Dr. Steve Austin, Geologist
Dr. S.E. Aw, Biochemist
Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist
Dr. Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
Dr. Don Batten, Plant physiologist, tropical fruit expert
Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist,
Geophysicist,
expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
Dr. Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
Dr. Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology
Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology
Dr. Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist
Dr. Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology
Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
Dr. David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer
Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
Dr. David Catchpoole, Plant Physiologist (read his testimony)
Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics
Dr. Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
Dr. Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering
Dr. Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist (interview)
Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education
Dr. John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
Dr. Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist
Dr. Bob Compton, DVM
Dr. Ken Cumming, Biologist
Dr. Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
Dr. William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear
Physics
Dr. Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering
Dr. Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist
Dr. Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
Dr. Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist
Dr. Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
Dr. Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
Dr. Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry
Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
Dr. David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
Dr. Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
Dr. David Down, Field Archaeologist
Dr. Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr. Ted Driggers, Operations research
Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
Dr. André Eggen, Geneticist
Dr. Dudley Eirich, Molecular Biologist
Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
Dr. Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science
Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
Dr. Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
Dr. Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
Dr. Warwick Glover, General Surgeon
Dr. D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
Dr. Robin Greer, Chemist, History
Dr. Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
Dr. Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist
Dr. Donald Hamann, Food Scientist
Dr. Barry Harker, Philosopher
Dr. Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics
Dr. John Hartnett, Physicist and Cosmologist
Dr. Mark Harwood, Satellite Communications
Dr. George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
Dr. Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
Dr. Harold R. Henry, Engineer
Dr. Jonathan Henry, Astronomy
Dr. Joseph Henson, Entomologist
Dr. Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy
Dr. Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
Dr. Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
Dr. Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
Dr. Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
Dr. George F. Howe, Botany
Dr. Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist
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