Religions > Bible > Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly
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Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders? Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church? I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
<<John,
jw just proved he does not possess a sound mind. His attack on the
first century church leaders and believers who fellowshipped in the
homes before the church buildings and denominations came to be is
proof. He is supposed to be an elder in the baptist church. I
started out as a baptist and know full well that what jw just said is
contrary to what they teach (as is most of what he says). He is not
al elder in any church. I doubt he even attends church. As old as he
is he should have been exposed to enough Bible to know something.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB>>
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http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
Heb. 4:12-For the word of God is living and
active. Sharper than any double-edged sword,
it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints
and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes
of the heart.
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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders? Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church? I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED?
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15 Jun 2005 11:59:45 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:33:37 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
news:john.doggett-30F77E.16044515062005@news.charter.net...
Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders?
Never. They were / are the impeccable example we should all follow.
I have ONLY pointed out their humanity, which makes some
uncomfortable. Too many today forget that Jesus didn't create hundreds
or thousands of angels to run the local churches perfectly.
Jesus gave the reins of the 1st C church to HUMAN BEINGS with all
their faults and frailties; sinners all!
He didn't seek perfection; He sought loyalty and dedication;
I share those qualities with the apostles.
Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church?
I HAVE said I have twice served as an elder. In the church where the
pastor, Dr Moody, sponsored me into seminary, even Sunday School
teachers were considered elders, and the church had to vote each
Sunday School teacher into their assigned positions. I was a Sunday
School teacher/elder for several years. After that period, I served as
a 'chaplain's assistant'/ elder. I could not serve as a chaplain,
because in California, "chaplain" is a specialized field requiring
special education and a special certificate (allowing privileged
access to places like Death Row).
During my early days of seminary, I served BRIEFLY as an associate
pastor. When I realized that I didn't have time to do that AND my
seminary work, I resigned.
I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
I did, and I even bragged about it until someone in here (I now forget
who, and apologize for that -- John Wolfe?) pointed out that that was
inappropriate. I have since written to Dr. MacArthur and apologized.
He has not replied.
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
That is old news. I said that several years ago, before I found the
church I now attend.
And THAT is no one's business but mine and God's.
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
True. And that fact-- in my humble opinion -- is the ONLY issue that
matters.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
For which behavior I have apologized MANY times. That doesn't seem to
matter to too many who call themselves Christians.
We each have a cross or two to bear. I LONG ago admitted a behavior
disorder.
jw
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED?
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:33:37 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the group)
"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders?
Never. They were / are the impeccable example we should all follow.
I have ONLY pointed out their humanity, which makes some
uncomfortable. Too many today forget that Jesus didn't create hundreds or
thousands of angels to run the local churches perfectly.
Jesus gave the reins of the 1st C church to HUMAN BEINGS with all their
faults and frailties; sinners all!
He didn't seek perfection; He sought loyalty and dedication;
I share those qualities with the apostles.
Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church?
I HAVE said I have twice served as an elder. In the church where the
pastor, Dr Moody, sponsored me into seminary, even Sunday School teachers
Yes you have said that, but you have never established any reason that anyone should believing you because you are a known liar who'll say just about anything to glorify himself.
were considered elders, and the church had to vote each Sunday School
teacher into their assigned positions. I was a Sunday School
teacher/elder for several years. After that period, I served as a
& the name of this church would be, as well as a person to contact there been over to find information to prove you're not a liar can be found where?
'chaplain's assistant'/ elder. I could not serve as a chaplain, because
in California, "chaplain" is a specialized field requiring special
get you can be a chaplain in California, but you may not be a prison capital which are qualified but actually being a recognized spiritual leader as well as well-educated and founded the spiritual paths of the other Mythology's. Inasmuch as your posting history says he never had came close to being either, know you cannot be a prison chaplain. Nor could UBA police chaplain of that requires education is well and your posting history indicates the lack it instead highly. However, you could be an ordinary chaplain as long as it was the associated with the government in anyway.
education and a special certificate (allowing privileged access to places
like Death Row).
The education the lack, and likelihood is given your less than desirable discharge, you can ever qualify for any special certificates in the prison system.
During my early days of seminary, I served BRIEFLY as an associate
pastor. When I realized that I didn't have time to do that AND my
seminary work, I resigned.
That's nice, now can you provide any information or wouldn't verify that or are we simply to take to work to the known liar?
I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
So he claims, and give him enough time, he'll give U.S. scenario will bring tears your eyes if you believe him. Given his post a history, my eyes will remain dry.
I did, and I even bragged about it until someone in here (I now forget
who, and apologize for that -- John Wolfe?) pointed out that that was
inappropriate. I have since written to Dr. MacArthur and apologized.
He has not replied.
I can understand that, you have to his attention first & ***** ants like you only good for irritating others so why would you want to respond the first-place, that is presuming he even recalls who you are or what you are.
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
That is old news. I said that several years ago, before I found the
church I now attend.
He founded his own church according to him, congregation 1, he cannot eating it a 503c charter from the IRS. As to any other church, given his posting history here, can you anticipate any intelligent congregation wanting him as a member? I have no doubt that he would fool them for a while, after all, he had few people here fooled for while as well.
And THAT is no one's business but mine and God's.
Allah, are you sure he would want to being he doesn't like liars, yahweh does no like liars either, & the missing messiah, well what can you expect from the missing. I guess you have found another god to follow and are pretending it is xian one in order to keep your audience rating up.
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
True. And that fact-- in my humble opinion -- is the ONLY issue that
matters.
Which fact are you trying to claim as a fact this time, your assumption, that your missing messiah is real to anyone decide yourself, will factor They uri don't know what to talking about but make a lot of noise anyway?
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
For which behavior I have apologized MANY times. That doesn't seem to
matter to too many who call themselves Christians.
No, you have stood as they are, wrung your hands, & pulled a Jimmy Swaggert, while you pretended that your actions matched what you claimed to have as the problem, when everyone was noticing that they did not.
We each have a cross or two to bear. I LONG ago admitted a behavior
disorder.
Only after everyone was being on your case for being such a rude slob, and even then, he may not like he was not your fault that you are here even though you cannot take the heat of the discussions, let alone add to them in intelligent matter.
jw
which wannabe this time, along that refuses to accept the teachings of the New Testament, as in:
1 Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God
in Christ Jesus concerning you,
Or just a con artist out to gain support boo if given enough time can, the conjure a story to excuse anything and those that wish to believe in others are wanting to accept at face value in spite of the evidence that is contrary to his claims and stories. Evidence provided by himself.
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
There is a pro & con to every story, but in the case of jw, the con outweighs a pro & his posting history verifies that. You have two choices for everyone is concerned on Usenet, he can find out how their posting history indicates they think, or you can assume what they are telling you this time is exactly what they are at all times. An assumption that has a fatal flaw in the case of jw. Those that are actually interested in knowing what jw is are free to research it on google, using the subject keywords 2003 2004 2005 or jw. It quite possibly will save you a lot of aggravation.
walksalone who has seen weatherly concoct a lot of stories to cover his claims, & if you know is posting history, you can pick them apart.
now jw, just for you, this is how one of the revealed gods of the desert feels about people like you,
--
The Hadith Qudsi 6
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of Resurrection will be a
man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will
recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I fought for you until I died a
martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous.
And so it was said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.
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16 Jun 2005 12:10:40 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:45 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:33:37 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
news:john.doggett-30F77E.16044515062005@news.charter.net...
Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders?
Never. They were / are the impeccable example we should all follow.
I have ONLY pointed out their humanity, which makes some
uncomfortable. Too many today forget that Jesus didn't create hundreds
or thousands of angels to run the local churches perfectly.
*******
Jesus gave the reins of the 1st C church to HUMAN BEINGS with all
their faults and frailties; sinners all!
He didn't seek perfection; He sought loyalty and dedication;
*******
jw,
Above between stars, excellent points.
BB
I share those qualities with the apostles.
Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church?
I HAVE said I have twice served as an elder. In the church where the
pastor, Dr Moody, sponsored me into seminary, even Sunday School
teachers were considered elders, and the church had to vote each
Sunday School teacher into their assigned positions. I was a Sunday
School teacher/elder for several years. After that period, I served as
a 'chaplain's assistant'/ elder. I could not serve as a chaplain,
because in California, "chaplain" is a specialized field requiring
special education and a special certificate (allowing privileged
access to places like Death Row).
During my early days of seminary, I served BRIEFLY as an associate
pastor. When I realized that I didn't have time to do that AND my
seminary work, I resigned.
I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
I did, and I even bragged about it until someone in here (I now forget
who, and apologize for that -- John Wolfe?) pointed out that that was
inappropriate. I have since written to Dr. MacArthur and apologized.
He has not replied.
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
That is old news. I said that several years ago, before I found the
church I now attend.
And THAT is no one's business but mine and God's.
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
True. And that fact-- in my humble opinion -- is the ONLY issue that
matters.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
For which behavior I have apologized MANY times. That doesn't seem to
matter to too many who call themselves Christians.
We each have a cross or two to bear. I LONG ago admitted a behavior
disorder.
jw
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED?
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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15 Jun 2005 07:29:28 PM |
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Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote :
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
"Excuse" being the operative word here. That's precisely how he employs
it.
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15 Jun 2005 11:49:02 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:29:28 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote :
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
"Excuse" being the operative word here. That's precisely how he employs
it.
Your words hurt.
LOL!!
I'd still rather be me than a pompous ... well you know what you are.
jw
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16 Jun 2005 04:00:37 AM |
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
Your words hurt.
LOL!!
I'd still rather be me than a pompous ... well you know what you are.
Show some bottle, John. Say what you think. You got as far as 'pompous',
and then wimped out.
As for whether my words hurt, I honestly doubt it. We've had this
conversation too many times before, John. You already know exactly what I
think of the 'illness' you trot out when it's convenient for you; the one
you hide behind while you're being abusive and dishonest on Usenet.
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16 Jun 2005 09:46:18 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:00:37 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
Your words hurt.
LOL!!
I'd still rather be me than a pompous ... well you know what you are.
Show some bottle, John. Say what you think. You got as far as 'pompous',
and then wimped out.
I didn't "wimp". You know what I mean. And as a journalist/editor, I
believe strongly in the economy of words.
Where some (you perhaps) use 10,000 words to say what they could say
in 5 words, I opt for the 5 words.
jw
As for whether my words hurt, I honestly doubt it. We've had this
conversation too many times before, John. You already know exactly what I
think of the 'illness' you trot out when it's convenient for you; the one
you hide behind while you're being abusive and dishonest on Usenet.
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16 Jun 2005 09:56:06 AM |
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I didn't "wimp". You know what I mean. And as a journalist/editor, I
believe strongly in the economy of words.
No, John, sorry. You can flower it up as much as you want. You just
didn't have the bottle to speak your mind.
Odd, considering you're not usually reluctant to be abusive.
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16 Jun 2005 12:27:24 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:56:06 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I didn't "wimp". You know what I mean. And as a journalist/editor, I
believe strongly in the economy of words.
No, John, sorry. You can flower it up as much as you want. You just
didn't have the bottle to speak your mind.
I don't speak my mind?
LOL!!!
jw
Odd, considering you're not usually reluctant to be abusive.
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16 Jun 2005 03:17:43 PM |
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I don't speak my mind?
LOL!!!
Only when it suits you, it seems.
I simply believe that if you're going to insult someone, you should have
the courage to finish the job.
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16 Jun 2005 10:46:34 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:17:43 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I don't speak my mind?
LOL!!!
Only when it suits you, it seems.
I simply believe that if you're going to insult someone, you should have
the courage to finish the job.
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Thank you.
jw
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20 Jun 2005 01:58:10 AM |
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In article <rrh4b1pd7h071l5ks12faa5na25l2enk86@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Thank you.
jw
Who cares
It is all CRAP anyway
Mostly we all just laugh
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17 Jun 2005 01:44:20 AM |
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Yes - and what you daren't, apparently. What did you think I was going to
do from over here, John? Reach through the screen and punch you on the
nose?
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17 Jun 2005 10:10:14 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Yes - and what you daren't, apparently. What did you think I was going to
do from over here, John? Reach through the screen and punch you on the
nose?
and now he says he is 21?
Last I heard him say was he was nearly sixty.......
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Please visit http://www.romath.com/
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17 Jun 2005 11:59:13 AM |
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"Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Yes - and what you daren't, apparently. What did you think I was going to
do from over here, John? Reach through the screen and punch you on the
nose?
and now he says he is 21?
Last I heard him say was he was nearly sixty.......
Come on, you know the saying. He is not claiming to be 21.
Drop it.
Your fanaticism is rising again.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Please visit http://www.romath.com/
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17 Jun 2005 01:07:01 PM |
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
Come on, you know the saying. He is not claiming to be 21.
Speaking for myself I've never heard the saying. But I'll take your word
that it's well established.
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17 Jun 2005 12:38:39 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:59:13 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> done went
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"Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Yes - and what you daren't, apparently. What did you think I was going to
do from over here, John? Reach through the screen and punch you on the
nose?
and now he says he is 21?
Last I heard him say was he was nearly sixty.......
Come on, you know the saying. He is not claiming to be 21.
Drop it.
Your fanaticism is rising again.
Vernon, I am neither a fanatic, nor am I rising in anything immoral.
He DID say "I am free and 21'.
And yes indeed, I DO know the expression, and it's I AM OVER 21....
Don't admonish me to 'drop it', Vernon.
I will still say something if I feel it needs to be said, and I did
nothing wrong.
Have a pleasant day.
May God bless you, but if you object so highly to what I'm posting why
not just ignore me?
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| User: "icono" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 01:01:36 PM |
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"Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:59:13 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> done went
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"Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote :
I am free and 21, and I am quite capable of deciding what I will say,
when, and to whom.
Yes - and what you daren't, apparently. What did you think I was going
to
do from over here, John? Reach through the screen and punch you on the
nose?
and now he says he is 21?
Last I heard him say was he was nearly sixty.......
Come on, you know the saying. He is not claiming to be 21.
Drop it.
Your fanaticism is rising again.
Vernon, I am neither a fanatic, nor am I rising in anything immoral.
He DID say "I am free and 21'.
And yes indeed, I DO know the expression, and it's I AM OVER 21....
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years, he is
21.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 03:21:59 PM |
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years,
he is 21.
That's desperate. That's REALLY desperate. A 60-year-old might have
passed the 21-year-old mark, but nobody would say in everyday conversation
that somebody of 60 was 21.
John's comment was, on reflection, quite clearly intended to read 'over
21', or similar, since he has made it clear that he is a way older than
that in the past and I don't think even HE would be too eager to discredit
himself by trying now to say he's 21. But at the same time, if someone (I
wonder who?) wants to be pedantic about what he said, then the fact remains
he DID say "I am 21".
Common sense suggests he didn't mean what his post says - all the reason
you could need to simply dismiss this point. But for pity's sake, if you
feel the need to fixate on this inadvertent red herring then at least argue
something a bit better than "if he has lived 60 years, he is 21".
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| User: "icono" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 03:57:34 PM |
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"Midjis" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years,
he is 21.
That's desperate. That's REALLY desperate. A 60-year-old might have
passed the 21-year-old mark, but nobody would say in everyday conversation
that somebody of 60 was 21.
If someone referenced legal age, the answer may quite well be, "I'm 21".
At least those who actually get out once in a while.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 04:56:00 PM |
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
If someone referenced legal age, the answer may quite well be, "I'm 21".
At least those who actually get out once in a while.
Now, now. We are both sitting in front of computers when we could be out
doing social things and having adventures. So it might not be a good idea
to throw stones from that particular glass house.
But yes, what you say could, possibly, be true - albeit I submit that "I'm
over 21" would be a more usual statement. But as I've said in response to
your other post, the main point here is that John appears to have made a
simple mistake in what he typed. It wasn't worth Elaine pouncing on it,
and it's not worth you getting all defensive trying to justify it.
We all make mistakes.
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 09:02:56 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:56:00 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
It wasn't worth Elaine pouncing on it,
and it's not worth you getting all defensive trying to justify it.
Sorry, MidWinter, but I honestly feel it was.
That party has lied so many times, I felt it WAS necessary to say
something.
I am in my 57th year, and wil reach 57 this July 23rd. I'm not ashamed
of it.
I make no efforts to hide my age.
Some people might ridicule me and claim 'I'm old' but I really don't
care, because a person is only as old as they feel.
And I feel a lot younger.
Actually, despite my age, many people have told me I look much
younger. but that still doesn't give me license to claim I am!!
BTW, the reply I gave to Vernon concerning "fine, I'm 21 and holding
then' WAS intended as a joking comment, in case anyone tries to claim
I lied there :o)
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| User: "icono" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 03:54:57 PM |
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"Midjis" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years,
he is 21.
That's desperate. That's REALLY desperate. A 60-year-old might have
passed the 21-year-old mark, but nobody would say in everyday conversation
that somebody of 60 was 21.
John's comment was, on reflection, quite clearly intended to read 'over
21', or similar, since he has made it clear that he is a way older than
that in the past and I don't think even HE would be too eager to discredit
himself by trying now to say he's 21. But at the same time, if someone (I
wonder who?) wants to be pedantic about what he said, then the fact
remains
he DID say "I am 21".
Common sense suggests he didn't mean what his post says - all the reason
you could need to simply dismiss this point. But for pity's sake, if you
feel the need to fixate on this inadvertent red herring then at least
argue
something a bit better than "if he has lived 60 years, he is 21".
Whatever.
When you reach the point that you have lived 21 years and 4 months, how old
do you say you are.
Exactness would say "I am in my 22nd year". You would NOT be 21.
Fixation and compulsive obsessive fixation of jw is worse than anything he
says, intentionally or unintentionally.
You and many others, including Elaine, seem to be that. At least jw has
personally identified a problem even if he changes the name. You have
absolutely no defense unless you also have an affliction out of control.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 04:52:25 PM |
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"icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote :
Whatever.
"Whatever"...? How old are YOU?
(Don't answer that - I'm not the least bit interested in your age.)
When you reach the point that you have lived 21 years and 4 months,
how old do you say you are.
21. But when I reach the age of 22 and 4 months, I don't say I'm 21.
And when I reach the age of 60 I REALLY don't say I'm 21 - even if it's
true that I have lived 21 (and more) years.
Fixation and compulsive obsessive fixation of jw is worse than
anything he says, intentionally or unintentionally.
You and many others, including Elaine, seem to be that. At least jw
has personally identified a problem even if he changes the name. You
have absolutely no defense unless you also have an affliction out of
control.
You missed my point. For quite a long time now I've had John and Elaine
both killfiled. Elaine is still in there - why John wasn't at the
beginning of this thread I'm not entirely sure, but as of now he's back
in the box. But when I see a silly argument made I will point it out,
whether it be John who makes it, or Elaine, or, as in this case, you.
Like I said, John clearly made a mistake in his typing here - and while
it was weak of Elaine to jump on it and try to prove that he was being
dishonest, the argument you used in place of "he made a mistake" was
equally unconvincing. And before you retort, bear in mind that there are
plenty of those who point out my mistakes and my faults - 'cause I'm not
immune either. This is the nature of Usenet - it's just one big cycle of
questions, answers, statements and contestations.
But to address the matter of John's 'affliction' - it may be worth your
time to consider that there are many people on Usenet, and many of them
might suffer from afflictions of some form or another. Depending how we
define 'affliction', we could probably cover just about every poster
here. How stable can someone be who wastes otherwise good free time
sitting in front of a computer having fierce arguments with people
they've never met and care nothing about?
So while you make comments like this above, I'm going to assume that you
are somehow aware that I DON'T have a 'problem'. Even so, there are many
people here who DO have problems, and yet don't roll them out and duck
down behind them whenever things start to go against them in
conversation. If I say something, then I've said it, and I expect to be
held responsible for it. I'm not a doctor; I'm not a psychologist. So
it's not my place to try to diagnose people and work out the motivations
behind what they say with relation to 'afflictions'. Anyone can tell us
they have an affliction, and to some degree we must respect what they
tell us - even if it's that merely glancing at an extract from the KJV
gives them a terrible headache.
John behaves in a manner that suggests he's very much aware of the useful
deflection potential of his 'condition' - and that in itself indicates
that it's debatable whether it's "out of control" at all.
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 09:02:53 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:52:25 +0000 (UTC), Midjis
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in
these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
John behaves in a manner that suggests he's very much aware of the useful
deflection potential of his 'condition' - and that in itself indicates
that it's debatable whether it's "out of control" at all.
exactly ... which was WHY I called him on the age mirepresentation in
the first place.
Had he said "I'm over 21" nothing would have been said.
Unfortunately, it seems some people think I should clam up and say
absolutely nothing at all unless it fits the mold they expect it to
fit.
I don't feel I said anything wrong there.
And while I may be in your kill file, I'm sure you'll see this one way
or another.
May God bless regardless.......
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God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
17 Jun 2005 09:02:40 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:01:36 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> done went
and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years, he is
21.
Fine - that makes ME 21 and holding, then.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Please visit http://www.romath.com/
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| User: "icono" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
18 Jun 2005 09:22:51 AM |
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"Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:01:36 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> done went
and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
You know what he said. Actually he is 21. If he has lived 60 years, he
is
21.
Fine - that makes ME 21 and holding, then.
Well when dealing with jw, prove to others that you are past 12.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
15 Jun 2005 09:26:27 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:04:45 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders? Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church? I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
<<John,
jw just proved he does not possess a sound mind. His attack on the
first century church leaders and believers who fellowshipped in the
homes before the church buildings and denominations came to be is
proof. He is supposed to be an elder in the baptist church. I
started out as a baptist and know full well that what jw just said is
contrary to what they teach (as is most of what he says). He is not
al elder in any church. I doubt he even attends church. As old as he
is he should have been exposed to enough Bible to know something.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB>>
John,
What does it matter?
God is able to sort things out. All you need to do is what God wants
you to do. jw will do what he does, I will do what I do, Icono will
do what he does, etc. God is the judge - not you, not me or any other
man.
God gave you permission to compare individual behavior to the rightly
divided word of truth (the Bible not church doctrine) and then decide
whether the behavior is in contravention of the word of truth. The
Word of God is the standard, not you or me, or jw, or Icono, or anyone
else or any church doctrine.
You need to be concerned about you and your behavior. The word says
that you are to be diligent to show yourself approved of God by
rightly dividing the word of truth. It does not say you stand
approved before God by attacking people, questioning their motives and
the like.
You were making good progress and now you are "backsliding." In all
seriousness and in all love. Put God first in your life, not
yourself, and things will work out just fine for you. With regard to
all the people whose integrity and motives you question, ask yourself
one question about that person. Is that person trying to serve God or
self - and be careful that you do not judge wrong. On the surface it
looks like you are self serving, but "I" suspect or "I" see love in
your heart for God. Learn to love God's way John. How? Simple," be
ye followers (immitators) of God as dear children." Love other people
the way God loves you and you will do just fine.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "jw" |
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| Title: Re: Ping Bible Bob response to your concern about John Weatherly |
16 Jun 2005 12:03:02 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:26:27 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:04:45 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
Bob,
I usually do not read all of the threads so it took me sometime to find
this post.
When did JW attack the first century church leaders? Please show me.
When did JW say he was an elder of a church? I thought JW said that he
publicly attacked John MacArthur at his old church?
When did JW say he no longer attends church?
Thank you for clearing this up with me. JW teaches the gospel according
to Jesus, which you have another gospel that denies the Trinity.
However I am not totally in favor of JW's behaviors. But he does claim
a disability, so this can be a sound logical excuse for his behaviors.
Just trying to set out a pro and a con of JW and you. You teach another
gospel Bob, but your online behavior seems to reflect a christ like
spirit. Only if you knew the trinity, what a christian you would be!
John
<<John,
jw just proved he does not possess a sound mind. His attack on the
first century church leaders and believers who fellowshipped in the
homes before the church buildings and denominations came to be is
proof. He is supposed to be an elder in the baptist church. I
started out as a baptist and know full well that what jw just said is
contrary to what they teach (as is most of what he says). He is not
al elder in any church. I doubt he even attends church. As old as he
is he should have been exposed to enough Bible to know something.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB>>
John,
What does it matter?
God is able to sort things out. All you need to do is what God wants
you to do. jw will do what he does, I will do what I do, Icono will
do what he does, etc. God is the judge - not you, not me or any other
man.
If you sincerely believed those words, BB, you would not daily presume
to correct my "misbehavior" while ignoring your own ("trolling")
God gave you permission to compare individual behavior to the rightly
divided word of truth (the Bible not church doctrine) and then decide
whether the behavior is in contravention of the word of truth. The
Word of God is the standard, not you or me, or jw, or Icono, or anyone
else or any church doctrine.
You need to be concerned about you and your behavior.
pot kettle BB.
You tell others that you are not to be corrected. Then you correct
others.
The word says
that you are to be diligent to show yourself approved of God by
rightly dividing the word of truth. It does not say you stand
approved before God by attacking people, questioning their motives and
the like.
Yet you do PRECISELY that daily.
You are a demoniac and a hypocrite.
jw
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