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The organization primarily responsible for promoting and performing =
abortions in the United States is Planned Parenthood. This abomination =
operates under the guise of performing "reproductive services to woman". =
Some of the local businesses are known to have been supporters of this =
organization such as Olive Garden restaurant. so in effect, when we =
patronize these merchants a portion of our dollar goes to support =
abortion. I ask the team to pray an imprecatory prayer against Planned =
Parenthood, in the same way that David prayed his enemies would be =
brought down.
Just so you know that imprecatory prayers are in order, here is a =
summary of their activities taken from an article by STOPP =
International.
STOPP International, which has monitored Planned Parenthood's operations =
for 20 years, provided its exclusive analysis of the latest report and =
put it in historical perspective. Sedlak pointed out the following facts =
and trends about Planned Parenthood in the last year:
Planned Parenthood increased the numbers of surgical abortions at its =
own facilities by 6.1% to 244,628. This means Planned Parenthood has =
surgically killed 3.5 million babies since 1970.=20
Planned Parenthood took in an estimated $104 million from its surgical =
abortion business, accounting for over one-third of its $302.6 million =
clinic income.=20
.. Planned Parenthood aborted 138 children for every adoption referral to =
an
outside agency. During Gloria Feldt's first full year as president of =
PPFA
(1997), the group's abortion/adoption ratio was 18:1. Under Feldt, =
abortions
have consistently increased and adoption referrals have decreased.=20
Here is an example of an imprecatory prayer of David.
Psalms 109: 1-20
Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise; For the mouth of the wicked and =
the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken =
against me with a lying tongue.
They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me =
without a cause.
For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. And =
they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become =
sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.Let his children be =
fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually =
vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate =
places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil =
his labour.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to =
favour his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; and in the =
generation following let their name be blotted out.
Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not =
the sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the LORD =
continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor =
and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart. As he loved =
cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so =
let it be far from him.
As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it =
come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Let it be =
unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith =
he is girded continually. Let this be the reward of mine adversaries =
from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul.
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because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins =
and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and =
take away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com
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<DIV>Here is an example of an imprecatory prayer of David.</DIV>
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| User: "Michael J. Bolen" |
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| Title: Re: Planned Parenthood |
19 Dec 2004 03:49:35 AM |
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Googlize for the record of this wacko extremist "off with their heads"
direct from the old Testament, and then ignore him.
Old Attorney
"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:EYCwd.46518$Jk5.2551@lakeread01...
The organization primarily responsible for promoting and performing
abortions in the United States is Planned Parenthood. This abomination
operates under the guise of performing "reproductive services to woman".
Some of the local businesses are known to have been supporters of this
organization such as Olive Garden restaurant. so in effect, when we
patronize these merchants a portion of our dollar goes to support abortion.
I ask the team to pray an imprecatory prayer against Planned Parenthood, in
the same way that David prayed his enemies would be brought down.
Just so you know that imprecatory prayers are in order, here is a summary of
their activities taken from an article by STOPP International.
STOPP International, which has monitored Planned Parenthood's operations for
20 years, provided its exclusive analysis of the latest report and put it in
historical perspective. Sedlak pointed out the following facts and trends
about Planned Parenthood in the last year:
Planned Parenthood increased the numbers of surgical abortions at its own
facilities by 6.1% to 244,628. This means Planned Parenthood has surgically
killed 3.5 million babies since 1970.
Planned Parenthood took in an estimated $104 million from its surgical
abortion business, accounting for over one-third of its $302.6 million
clinic income.
.. Planned Parenthood aborted 138 children for every adoption referral to an
outside agency. During Gloria Feldt's first full year as president of PPFA
(1997), the group's abortion/adoption ratio was 18:1. Under Feldt, abortions
have consistently increased and adoption referrals have decreased.
Here is an example of an imprecatory prayer of David.
Psalms 109: 1-20
Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise; For the mouth of the wicked and the
mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me
with a lying tongue.
They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me
without a cause.
For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. And
they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become
sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.Let his children be
fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually vagabonds,
and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his
labour.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to
favour his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; and in the
generation following let their name be blotted out.
Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the
sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the LORD continually,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and
needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart. As he loved cursing,
so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far
from him.
As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come
into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Let it be unto him
as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded
continually. Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and
of them that speak evil against my soul.
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SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell
because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and
to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take
away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com
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| User: "Attila" |
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18 Dec 2004 05:11:34 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:30:51 -0500, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
<Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<EYCwd.46518$Jk5.2551@lakeread01> wrote:
The organization primarily responsible for promoting and performing abortions in the United States is Planned Parenthood.
Followed by more of the usual spit from Spitz.
What a jerk.
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| User: "Cleopatra" |
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18 Dec 2004 03:36:06 PM |
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Do any of you brain dead abortovorkians ever attempt to actually refute
an argument? That was a rhetorical question, so don't bother answering,
Twinky.
BTW, if Planned Parenthood isn't involved in facilitating abortions,
then why don't you tell us what it is they do? Do they exist to prevent
abortions? Are they secretly running a giant rummage sale? A Bingo
game. Uh, what is it Planned Parenthood does? Maybe you have a huge
list of women Planned Parenthood has told NOT to have an abortion,
right?
You people lie so much you can no longer distinguish fact from fiction.
The only numbers you keep track of it seems are dead civilians in Iraq.
A few hundred of those seem to impress your gang one whole hell of a
lot more than 32 million dead infants.
Cleopatra
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| User: "Attila" |
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18 Dec 2004 04:13:57 PM |
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On 18 Dec 2004 13:36:06 -0800, "Cleopatra"
<Blue_States_Blow@linkedto.pointyhats.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <1103405766.367263.252790@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
Do any of you brain dead abortovorkians ever attempt to actually refute
an argument? That was a rhetorical question, so don't bother answering,
Twinky.
BTW, if Planned Parenthood isn't involved in facilitating abortions,
then why don't you tell us what it is they do? Do they exist to prevent
abortions? Are they secretly running a giant rummage sale? A Bingo
game. Uh, what is it Planned Parenthood does? Maybe you have a huge
list of women Planned Parenthood has told NOT to have an abortion,
right?
Why don't you see for yourself?
Mission Statement
A Reason for Being
Planned Parenthood believes in the fundamental right of each
individual, throughout the world, to manage his or her fertility,
regardless of the individual's income, marital status, race,
ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, national origin, or residence. We
believe that respect and value for diversity in all aspects of our
organization are essential to our well-being. We believe that
reproductive self-determination must be voluntary and preserve the
individual's right to privacy. We further believe that such
self-determination will contribute to an enhancement of the quality of
life, strong family relationships, and population stability.
Based on these beliefs, and reflecting the diverse communities within
which we operate, the mission of Planned Parenthood is:
to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care
services in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy
and rights of each individual;
to advocate public policies which guarantee these rights and ensure
access to such services;
to provide educational programs which enhance understanding of
individual and societal implications of human sexuality;
to promote research and the advancement of technology in reproductive
health care and encourage understanding of their inherent bioethical,
behavioral, and social implications.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about/thisispp/mission.html
You people lie so much you can no longer distinguish fact from fiction.
You never could.
The only numbers you keep track of it seems are dead civilians in Iraq.
A few hundred of those seem to impress your gang one whole hell of a
lot more than 32 million dead infants.
What 32 million dead infants? Have the police been notified?
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| User: "SeaWolf" |
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20 Dec 2004 01:57:05 PM |
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Why don't you see for yourself?
Mission Statement
A Reason for Being
Planned Parenthood believes in the fundamental right of each
individual, throughout the world, to manage his or her fertility,
regardless of the individual's income, marital status, race,
ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, national origin, or residence. We
believe that respect and value for diversity in all aspects of our
organization are essential to our well-being. We believe that
reproductive self-determination must be voluntary and preserve the
individual's right to privacy. We further believe that such
self-determination will contribute to an enhancement of the quality of
life, strong family relationships, and population stability.
Based on these beliefs, and reflecting the diverse communities within
which we operate, the mission of Planned Parenthood is:
to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care
services in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy
and rights of each individual;
to advocate public policies which guarantee these rights and ensure
access to such services;
to provide educational programs which enhance understanding of
individual and societal implications of human sexuality;
to promote research and the advancement of technology in reproductive
health care and encourage understanding of their inherent bioethical,
behavioral, and social implications.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about/thisispp/mission.html
What you see here before you is a very nice, concise PC statement that
simply rolls off the tongue is sounds so good. But you know what! During
WWII Hitler has many organizations just like this, with fancy wording just
like this! They had Children's Hospitals that were painted in pastel colors
and were very pleasing to the eye. The Nazi's killed thousands of children
based on Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood program. Her goal was to
exterminate the Negro population as well as anyone not fit to live. Today
most black folks know that many of these Planned Parenthood Centers are
located in Black areas and the fact is that black people are exterminating
their young at a higher rate then the rest of the population.
(Article)
Martha Burk, Margaret Sanger and the neo-Nazi
by Dan Coyne
Commenting upon Augusta National Golf Club's decision to admit only
male members, superfeminist Martha Burk recently stated, "When the KKK comes
on your side, you have officially lost all argument." Let's put the Burk
Principal to the test.
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
Sanger's keynote address at a Klan rally was not a mere aberration.
The racist roots of the modern, pro-abortion feminist movement may come as a
surprise to some, but if you listen closely to the likes of Burk and Sanger
you will begin to understand. If you doubt this historical link, compare the
thinking of a modern racist with that of a feminist heroine. The ADL website
provides the following profile of Tom Metzger, the one time leader of White
Aryan Resistance:
Tom Metzger, a television repairman from Fallbrook, California, has
been a leader in organized bigotry for more than 25 years...He has been
widely acknowledged as the principal mentor of the neo-Nazi skinhead
movement since its appearance in America during the mid-1980s; in this
connection, he attracted nationwide publicity in 1990, when an Oregon jury
rendered a $12.5 million judgment against him and his son, John, for
inciting the murder of an Ethiopian immigrant by skinheads. Today, although
still paying the judgment, Metzger continues to cultivate a following
through his monthly newspaper, WAR - White Aryan Resistance, a Web site, a
telephone hotline, an e-mail newsletter, and other media.
Margaret Sanger, on the other hand, was voted one of Time Magazine's
100 Leaders & Revolutionaries for the 20th Century. She is an inductee into
the American Nurses Association Hall of Fame and the National Women's Hall
of Fame.
One is a "heroine" of the 20th Century. The other is a modern villain.
So identifying which one of these two said what ought to be quite easy.
Right? Well, try your luck -- it may be tougher than you think. Here are six
quotes, some by Sanger, some by Metzger:
1. "We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the
Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea
out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
2. "Covertly invest into non-White areas, invest in ghetto abortion
clinics. Help to raise money for free abortions, in primarily non-White
areas. Perhaps abortion clinic syndicates throughout North America, that
primarily operate in non-White areas and receive tax support, should be
promoted."
3. "Negroes and Southern Europeans are mentally inferior to native
born Americans"
4. "Since Christianity is in fact a slave religion, it is satirical at
least to see the Negro adopt a slave religion, after chattel slavery was
ended. It simply underlines the fact that consciously or unconsciously, weak
humans desire the status of sheep, no matter what they say."
5. "More children from the fit, less from the unfit."
6. "...apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation
to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted, or whose
inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to
offspring."
The advocate for free taxpayer-funded abortions, in quote number two,
was the neo-Nazi television repairman who is also responsible for the vile
anti-Christian remark in quote number four. The other four disturbing
remarks are all comments made by the much-celebrated founder of Planned
Parenthood, Margaret Sanger. Now that you know the answers, you may want to
go back and review.
Perhaps it is just a coincidence that 78% of Planned Parenthood
abortion clinics are located in minority communities, but it certainly
appears as if someone is listening to the neo-Nazi Metzger. And surely the
modern feminist movement has evolved and condemned the bigoted and Nazi-like
views of its founder, right? Well, here's one more quote:
"So, how do we control men's fertility? Mandatory contraception
beginning at puberty, with the rule relaxed only for procreation under the
right circumstances (he can afford it and has a willing partner) and for the
right reasons (determined by a panel of experts, and with the permission of
his designated female partner)."
"...controlling men's fertility would not be a hard restriction to
enforce. The fertility authorities could use a combination of punishments
for men who failed to get the implants and for doctors who removed them
without proper authorization. The men could be required to adopt one orphan
per infraction and rear her or him until adulthood. The doctors, could lose
their licenses or, in extreme cases, go to prison."
Guess who said that. A crazed-eugenicist working for Hitler? A KKK
leader? A neo-Nazi? Margaret Sanger? No, that was Martha Burk writing in the
November/December 1997 issue of Ms. Magazine.
Asked about her "mandatory contraception" proposal, Burk responded on
CNN's Crossfire, "Hey, if they're going to restrict abortion, buddy, we've
got to do it this way." She later claimed the article was a "spoof." But
when a radical feminist leader virtually parrots back the words of a radical
feminist heroine like Sanger, can it really be considered a "spoof?"
Burk, like most abortion advocates, calls herself "pro-choice." She
also wants to decide with whom we can golf and apparently wants the
government to decide when we can have children. These feminists sure have a
strange understanding of the word "choice."
Daniel P. Coyne is the President of Cleveland Right to Life. He
recently helped co-found Hail Holy Queen Communications, a nonprofit
organization committed to bringing Catholic radio to Northeastern Ohio. Dan
can be reached at danielpcoyne@aol.com.
You people lie so much you can no longer distinguish fact from
fiction.
You never could.
What's interesting is that you call us liars but you can look up any of this
information right out of Margaret Sanger's papers. Also notice that when
dealing with women's groups or abortion groups you can only get "Selected
Papers" on Sanger.
I can go on and on about this, you want to kill your children go right
ahead, I will not stop you because in the end you will stop yourselves. As
we kill off our population other ethnic groups are "moving in" Eventually
you and yours will be NO MORE because you will have killed off your family
lines. This is happening in Europe right now! If things continue as they are
now going in Europe those who were the majority will become the minority.
When this happens that majority is going to tell the minority what to do
because Muslims don't take orders from anyone. The Muslims in Europe are now
starting to demand their rights and being that they are now quickly becoming
the majority they will do what they want.
In America the same thing is happening! At some point Americans as we once
knew them will become the minority. We have illegals flooding over our
borders to such an extent that at some point they will overwhelm us, its
just a matter of time. Many of these people don't believe as you do and they
will ignore you! They are having families and big ones too because they know
that PEOPLE equal POWER! The more people you have who are NOT diverse and
who are UNITED the more POWER you have to effect change.
So, in the end what you want is meaningless because in the end you and
people like you will have killed themselves off!
The only numbers you keep track of it seems are dead civilians in
Iraq. A few hundred of those seem to impress your gang one whole
hell of a lot more than 32 million dead infants.
What 32 million dead infants? Have the police been notified?
No joke! It was 32 million, now its about 40 million dead children! We have
wiped out entire generations of people, and for what! So that other people
can come in and take over this country. Are we really so stupid? I think so
because Birth Rates have been used as a weapon in history.
The idea is to convince the local population that there are too many of them
or even create a economic system that is so overpriced that people have a
hard time surviving in it. When everything is very expensive a local diverse
population will stop having children. In America today families do not live
together as they once did. In the old days the more people you had in your
family the better you did economically. So you had the main family and the
extended family all living in the same house. Families all worked together
for mutual support.
Due to the fact that Americans have had great wealth in the past we no
longer have large extended families living in the same house. Family members
will not help or support one another. If I ended up in the streets for some
reason my family would not lift a hand to help me, I would die!
This is not what happens in poorer countries where everyone lives in the
same house. So they come to American and everyone works and puts their money
in the family pot. They don't get bank loans but they save up and they
purchase houses for each other. They help and work with one another too. The
local population can not compete with all these people who are supporting
one another and eventually those who are working with one another take over
everything from those who do not.
This is what happened in Istanbul the Capital of the Byzantine Empire. At
one time Istanbul was totally Christian and the Capital of the Holy Roman
Empire. Over time the Church made things so difficult for the people that
the people stopped reproducing. In order to keep thinks going the Imported
massive numbers of Muslims to help get the work done. The Muslims worked
together, helped one another, and eventually took over more and more of the
small businesses. While the general majority stopped having children the
Muslims were having children for Allah and eventually they became the
majority. At that point the government was overthrown without firing a shot
and the city and country is now under Muslim control. Istanbul is now a
Muslim holding with a mostly Muslim population.
This very same thing is happening in the US and Europe today! We are killing
ourselves due to greed and selfishness! The results will be that these
countries will change hands and the future will be something completely
different from what we think they will be. I've heard some people even say
that they don't care because before these changes takes place they will be
old or dead. Being that they have killed off all their children they don't
care at all because their is no future for their family line anyway. Not to
mention the fact that they don't even care about the future of their family
line. Family no longer matters at all. All these people care about it
themselves.
So there is going to be a big change in this country! We will probably
become a communist country in the end only they have a nice PC name for it!
So why the big fight?
What you are fighting for is the death of a nation.
Kill you kids!
A new generation will take over and in the end you will have no rights at
all!
You had just better hope that the people who do take over do not revile you!
We say that we are racist! You have no idea what racist is! If Asians move
in here you and everyone that looks like you if you are not Asian are dead!
Look at any Asian country on this planet! How many blacks in their
population, how many whites? You will find that most Asian countries are
totally Asian and that's it.
Good luck!
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:57:05 -0800, "SeaWolf" <WyldeRover@Catnip.net>
in alt.abortion with message-id <41c72e0e$1_3@127.0.0.1> wrote:
Why don't you see for yourself?
Mission Statement
A Reason for Being
Planned Parenthood believes in the fundamental right of each
individual, throughout the world, to manage his or her fertility,
regardless of the individual's income, marital status, race,
ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, national origin, or residence. We
believe that respect and value for diversity in all aspects of our
organization are essential to our well-being. We believe that
reproductive self-determination must be voluntary and preserve the
individual's right to privacy. We further believe that such
self-determination will contribute to an enhancement of the quality of
life, strong family relationships, and population stability.
Based on these beliefs, and reflecting the diverse communities within
which we operate, the mission of Planned Parenthood is:
to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care
services in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy
and rights of each individual;
to advocate public policies which guarantee these rights and ensure
access to such services;
to provide educational programs which enhance understanding of
individual and societal implications of human sexuality;
to promote research and the advancement of technology in reproductive
health care and encourage understanding of their inherent bioethical,
behavioral, and social implications.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about/thisispp/mission.html
What you see here before you is a very nice, concise PC statement that
simply rolls off the tongue is sounds so good. But you know what! During
WWII Hitler has many organizations just like this, with fancy wording just
like this! They had Children's Hospitals that were painted in pastel colors
and were very pleasing to the eye. The Nazi's killed thousands of children
based on Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood program. Her goal was to
exterminate the Negro population as well as anyone not fit to live. Today
most black folks know that many of these Planned Parenthood Centers are
located in Black areas and the fact is that black people are exterminating
their young at a higher rate then the rest of the population.
That sounds like paranoia to me.
(Article)
Martha Burk, Margaret Sanger and the neo-Nazi
by Dan Coyne
Commenting upon Augusta National Golf Club's decision to admit only
male members, superfeminist Martha Burk recently stated, "When the KKK comes
on your side, you have officially lost all argument." Let's put the Burk
Principal to the test.
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
At this time the KKK was one of the largest organizations in existence
and held mass marches in many major cities.
Sanger's keynote address at a Klan rally was not a mere aberration.
The racist roots of the modern, pro-abortion feminist movement may come as a
surprise to some, but if you listen closely to the likes of Burk and Sanger
you will begin to understand. If you doubt this historical link, compare the
thinking of a modern racist with that of a feminist heroine. The ADL website
provides the following profile of Tom Metzger, the one time leader of White
Aryan Resistance:
Tom Metzger, a television repairman from Fallbrook, California, has
been a leader in organized bigotry for more than 25 years...He has been
widely acknowledged as the principal mentor of the neo-Nazi skinhead
movement since its appearance in America during the mid-1980s; in this
connection, he attracted nationwide publicity in 1990, when an Oregon jury
rendered a $12.5 million judgment against him and his son, John, for
inciting the murder of an Ethiopian immigrant by skinheads. Today, although
still paying the judgment, Metzger continues to cultivate a following
through his monthly newspaper, WAR - White Aryan Resistance, a Web site, a
telephone hotline, an e-mail newsletter, and other media.
Margaret Sanger, on the other hand, was voted one of Time Magazine's
100 Leaders & Revolutionaries for the 20th Century. She is an inductee into
the American Nurses Association Hall of Fame and the National Women's Hall
of Fame.
One is a "heroine" of the 20th Century. The other is a modern villain.
So identifying which one of these two said what ought to be quite easy.
Right? Well, try your luck -- it may be tougher than you think. Here are six
quotes, some by Sanger, some by Metzger:
1. "We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the
Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea
out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
2. "Covertly invest into non-White areas, invest in ghetto abortion
clinics. Help to raise money for free abortions, in primarily non-White
areas. Perhaps abortion clinic syndicates throughout North America, that
primarily operate in non-White areas and receive tax support, should be
promoted."
3. "Negroes and Southern Europeans are mentally inferior to native
born Americans"
4. "Since Christianity is in fact a slave religion, it is satirical at
least to see the Negro adopt a slave religion, after chattel slavery was
ended. It simply underlines the fact that consciously or unconsciously, weak
humans desire the status of sheep, no matter what they say."
5. "More children from the fit, less from the unfit."
6. "...apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation
to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted, or whose
inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to
offspring."
The advocate for free taxpayer-funded abortions, in quote number two,
was the neo-Nazi television repairman who is also responsible for the vile
anti-Christian remark in quote number four. The other four disturbing
remarks are all comments made by the much-celebrated founder of Planned
Parenthood, Margaret Sanger. Now that you know the answers, you may want to
go back and review.
Perhaps it is just a coincidence that 78% of Planned Parenthood
abortion clinics are located in minority communities, but it certainly
appears as if someone is listening to the neo-Nazi Metzger. And surely the
modern feminist movement has evolved and condemned the bigoted and Nazi-like
views of its founder, right? Well, here's one more quote:
"So, how do we control men's fertility? Mandatory contraception
beginning at puberty, with the rule relaxed only for procreation under the
right circumstances (he can afford it and has a willing partner) and for the
right reasons (determined by a panel of experts, and with the permission of
his designated female partner)."
"...controlling men's fertility would not be a hard restriction to
enforce. The fertility authorities could use a combination of punishments
for men who failed to get the implants and for doctors who removed them
without proper authorization. The men could be required to adopt one orphan
per infraction and rear her or him until adulthood. The doctors, could lose
their licenses or, in extreme cases, go to prison."
Guess who said that. A crazed-eugenicist working for Hitler? A KKK
leader? A neo-Nazi? Margaret Sanger? No, that was Martha Burk writing in the
November/December 1997 issue of Ms. Magazine.
Asked about her "mandatory contraception" proposal, Burk responded on
CNN's Crossfire, "Hey, if they're going to restrict abortion, buddy, we've
got to do it this way." She later claimed the article was a "spoof." But
when a radical feminist leader virtually parrots back the words of a radical
feminist heroine like Sanger, can it really be considered a "spoof?"
Burk, like most abortion advocates, calls herself "pro-choice." She
also wants to decide with whom we can golf and apparently wants the
government to decide when we can have children. These feminists sure have a
strange understanding of the word "choice."
Daniel P. Coyne is the President of Cleveland Right to Life. He
recently helped co-found Hail Holy Queen Communications, a nonprofit
organization committed to bringing Catholic radio to Northeastern Ohio. Dan
can be reached at danielpcoyne@aol.com.
You people lie so much you can no longer distinguish fact from
fiction.
You never could.
What's interesting is that you call us liars but you can look up any of this
information right out of Margaret Sanger's papers. Also notice that when
dealing with women's groups or abortion groups you can only get "Selected
Papers" on Sanger.
I can go on and on about this,
I am sure you can - paranoids fixate to an amazing detail.
you want to kill your children go right
ahead, I will not stop you because in the end you will stop yourselves. As
we kill off our population other ethnic groups are "moving in" Eventually
you and yours will be NO MORE because you will have killed off your family
lines. This is happening in Europe right now! If things continue as they are
now going in Europe those who were the majority will become the minority.
When this happens that majority is going to tell the minority what to do
because Muslims don't take orders from anyone. The Muslims in Europe are now
starting to demand their rights and being that they are now quickly becoming
the majority they will do what they want.
So you jump from racial paranoia to religious paranoia.
In America the same thing is happening! At some point Americans as we once
knew them will become the minority. We have illegals flooding over our
borders to such an extent that at some point they will overwhelm us, its
just a matter of time. Many of these people don't believe as you do and they
will ignore you! They are having families and big ones too because they know
that PEOPLE equal POWER! The more people you have who are NOT diverse and
who are UNITED the more POWER you have to effect change.
So, in the end what you want is meaningless because in the end you and
people like you will have killed themselves off!
And since we will all be dead long before that happens who cares?
Time always brings change and the past would almost never approve of
the present.
The only numbers you keep track of it seems are dead civilians in
Iraq. A few hundred of those seem to impress your gang one whole
hell of a lot more than 32 million dead infants.
What 32 million dead infants? Have the police been notified?
No joke! It was 32 million, now its about 40 million dead children! We have
wiped out entire generations of people, and for what! So that other people
can come in and take over this country. Are we really so stupid? I think so
because Birth Rates have been used as a weapon in history.
A fetus is not a child just as an egg is not a chicken.
The idea is to convince the local population that there are too many of them
or even create a economic system that is so overpriced that people have a
hard time surviving in it. When everything is very expensive a local diverse
population will stop having children. In America today families do not live
together as they once did. In the old days the more people you had in your
family the better you did economically. So you had the main family and the
extended family all living in the same house. Families all worked together
for mutual support.
And most people lived an died in the same town. Times and custom both
change. Today people can travel and communicate over much larger
areas.
Due to the fact that Americans have had great wealth in the past we no
longer have large extended families living in the same house. Family members
will not help or support one another. If I ended up in the streets for some
reason my family would not lift a hand to help me, I would die!
As would I.
This is not what happens in poorer countries where everyone lives in the
same house. So they come to American and everyone works and puts their money
in the family pot. They don't get bank loans but they save up and they
purchase houses for each other. They help and work with one another too. The
local population can not compete with all these people who are supporting
one another and eventually those who are working with one another take over
everything from those who do not.
And their children live exactly like other Americans.
This is what happened in Istanbul the Capital of the Byzantine Empire. At
one time Istanbul was totally Christian and the Capital of the Holy Roman
Empire. Over time the Church made things so difficult for the people that
the people stopped reproducing. In order to keep thinks going the Imported
massive numbers of Muslims to help get the work done. The Muslims worked
together, helped one another, and eventually took over more and more of the
small businesses. While the general majority stopped having children the
Muslims were having children for Allah and eventually they became the
majority. At that point the government was overthrown without firing a shot
and the city and country is now under Muslim control. Istanbul is now a
Muslim holding with a mostly Muslim population.
There were a few wars along the way.
This very same thing is happening in the US and Europe today! We are killing
ourselves due to greed and selfishness! The results will be that these
countries will change hands and the future will be something completely
different from what we think they will be. I've heard some people even say
that they don't care because before these changes takes place they will be
old or dead. Being that they have killed off all their children they don't
care at all because their is no future for their family line anyway. Not to
mention the fact that they don't even care about the future of their family
line. Family no longer matters at all. All these people care about it
themselves.
So there is going to be a big change in this country! We will probably
become a communist country in the end only they have a nice PC name for it!
So why the big fight?
What you are fighting for is the death of a nation.
Kill you kids!
A new generation will take over and in the end you will have no rights at
all!
You had just better hope that the people who do take over do not revile you!
We say that we are racist! You have no idea what racist is! If Asians move
in here you and everyone that looks like you if you are not Asian are dead!
Look at any Asian country on this planet! How many blacks in their
population, how many whites? You will find that most Asian countries are
totally Asian and that's it.
Good luck!
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04 Jan 2005 11:59:19 AM |
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So, in the end what you want is meaningless because in the end you
and people like you will have killed themselves off!
And since we will all be dead long before that happens who cares?
Time always brings change and the past would almost never approve of
the present.
You didn't say much but what you said makes my point clear!
This one statement by you makes my point here! We simply do not care about
anything but us! To hell with the future, to hell with anyone but ME! The
people today live for no one but themselves and they could care less about
the future or the future of their children. At least this is what I get from
your statement. Its what I get from a lot of people these days. I can
understand why an atheist might think this way. There is no G-d, there is no
future, there is no accountability, we are nothing more then a disease on
the face of the earth so live WELL now while the living is good. Take what
you can get now because there is no tomorrow. There are a lot of people who
are thinking this way.
There are a lot of folks out there I care about! I would like to see them
have a good future where they can be free to live a good life. I don't want
them enslaved or killed by those who are looking to control everything. G-d
means freedom, true freedom because when people love and do G-d's will
everyone is safe, people can trust others and things work well. Now I'm not
talking RELIGION here I'm talking about G-d period and what he wants from
us. All he asks for is that we love and respect one another, that's it!
I have also noted that you claim that I'm totally paranoid. That's
interesting because in this post I've said that your free to do what you
want. You will do what you want and there is no one who will stop you at
this point. I'm not afraid of what we are going to do! I'm just not sure
people understand what's going to happen really. Maybe they do understand
but simply don't care, I'm not sure. The point is that things don't have to
go bad NOW if we just tried to make them better.
Its true that in the end no matter what we do we WILL in the end prove G-d's
point here. As I've said in many posts "Its not entirely about us!" We are
NOT ALONE! We can choose to be apart of a greater community or we can choose
to be the lesson plan for this greater community who are watching us and
what we do here.
Regardless of how great we think we are the fact is that THIS PLACE is a
stage and WE are the actors on that stage. A great story is being played out
here and there are those who are watching this story and learning from it.
Now there are some folks who disagree with this assessment. Saying that this
place we live in is like a stage and we are the actors on that stage seems
to make us seem unimportant to G-d. I do think we are important but what is
going on is more complicated then just what we are doing. It seems that
there are three stages to what's going on here. The Jews are G-d's special
people too. Why are they special? Their job was to teach the world about
G-d. They are messing it up badly so far. But looking at the Bible we can
learn from these people's mistakes. As a matter of fact the Bible shows us
all the good and the bad when G-d deals with his people. As a matter of fact
the Bible is the only book of its type I've ever seen. The Bible doesn't not
make hero's out of G-d's chosen people but instead it gives us incite into
what they did right and also what they did wrong. The Bible also shows us in
great detail what the consequences of their mistakes were. The Bible is a
very interesting book because it really does show us the results of
different social behaviors. So we are too learn from the Jews. But could it
be that there are beings learning from us? Why not! G-d said to the angels
that WE are his special people. Just as G-d told us the Jews were his
chosen people. So far we are messing up rather badly too. So there maybe the
possibility the we are to show the angels what happens when beings are just
let loose to do whatever they want to do with out G-d in the mix. Without
G-d we simply don't do well. Without G-d the Angels wouldn't do to well
either and maybe that's the point of all this!
My purpose here is not to convince anyone of anything but to simply show an
alternate point of view. You don't have to agree, as a matter of fact I
don't want to you agree with me! I want you to simply remember what I'm
telling you now. At some point in the future when things do come apart and
man kind is on the verge of destruction you might remember what I've said
and it might help you understand.
The point of this entire play is the fact that MAN can not make it happen
without G-d. We just don't have what it takes to resolve our problems. No
amount of control or force will stop man from attempting to control other
men. In this world as it is currently operating there can only be one top
dog, one top race and everyone knows it. We will continue to fight and kill
each other until there is no one left to kill and that's the facts here.
Am I paranoid about it! No! I'm simply an observer who wants to tell folks
about things they do not wish to see. Yes I talk a lot about history because
we need to learn from history. Nothing has changed, not really! You think
that we are better then we once were. We are still having war after war and
its not going to stop any time soon.
If we here in the US were to throw away our weapons a month later some
country would simply take us over because in the end that's how things work
here. So in order to cut this short I'm just saying that you don't have to
believe me. Want to call me names like Paranoid, go a head and have at it.
I'm just giving you something different to think about so that when things
really get out of control you can re-evaluate what's going on around you.
Indeed I would be paranoid if I was afraid of what I believe is going to
happen to us. But you see the G-d I talk to says that I must not be afraid
of what I see happening. G-d tells me to simply observe what happens and
tell others what I see. I'm to equate what I see to G-d's word the Bible.
G-d has told me to watch, not be afraid and I will see and understand the
wondrous works G-d is about to do here. In the end I will be with G-d in his
place, where ever that is! Sounds OK too me.
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04 Jan 2005 05:28:49 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:59:19 -0800, "SeaWolf" <WyldeRover@Catnip.net>
in alt.abortion with message-id <41dad8d2$1_1@127.0.0.1> wrote:
So, in the end what you want is meaningless because in the end you
and people like you will have killed themselves off!
And since we will all be dead long before that happens who cares?
Time always brings change and the past would almost never approve of
the present.
You didn't say much but what you said makes my point clear!
This one statement by you makes my point here! We simply do not care about
anything but us! To hell with the future, to hell with anyone but ME! The
people today live for no one but themselves and they could care less about
the future or the future of their children. At least this is what I get from
your statement.
You are wrong.
Its what I get from a lot of people these days. I can
understand why an atheist might think this way. There is no G-d
I keep asking for someone to prove a god exists but so far, no luck.
there is no
future, there is no accountability, we are nothing more then a disease on
the face of the earth so live WELL now while the living is good. Take what
you can get now because there is no tomorrow. There are a lot of people who
are thinking this way.
There are a lot of folks out there I care about! I would like to see them
have a good future where they can be free to live a good life. I don't want
them enslaved or killed by those who are looking to control everything. G-d
means freedom, true freedom because when people love and do G-d's will
everyone is safe, people can trust others and things work well. Now I'm not
talking RELIGION here I'm talking about G-d period and what he wants from
us. All he asks for is that we love and respect one another, that's it!
Prove it.
I have also noted that you claim that I'm totally paranoid. That's
interesting because in this post I've said that your free to do what you
want. You will do what you want and there is no one who will stop you at
this point. I'm not afraid of what we are going to do! I'm just not sure
people understand what's going to happen really. Maybe they do understand
but simply don't care, I'm not sure. The point is that things don't have to
go bad NOW if we just tried to make them better.
Better according to who?
Its true that in the end no matter what we do we WILL in the end prove G-d's
point here. As I've said in many posts "Its not entirely about us!" We are
NOT ALONE! We can choose to be apart of a greater community or we can choose
to be the lesson plan for this greater community who are watching us and
what we do here.
What greater community? Please prove your answer.
Regardless of how great we think we are the fact is that THIS PLACE is a
stage and WE are the actors on that stage.
And you are not Shakespeare.
A great story is being played out
here and there are those who are watching this story and learning from it.
Now there are some folks who disagree with this assessment. Saying that this
place we live in is like a stage and we are the actors on that stage seems
to make us seem unimportant to G-d.
Why are you afraid to write god? Since no one has proven any god
exists it is just one more word.
I do think we are important but what is
going on is more complicated then just what we are doing. It seems that
there are three stages to what's going on here. The Jews are G-d's special
people too.
Prove that.
Why are they special? Their job was to teach the world about
G-d. They are messing it up badly so far. But looking at the Bible we can
learn from these people's mistakes. As a matter of fact the Bible shows us
all the good and the bad when G-d deals with his people. As a matter of fact
the Bible is the only book of its type I've ever seen. The Bible doesn't not
make hero's out of G-d's chosen people but instead it gives us incite into
what they did right and also what they did wrong. The Bible also shows us in
great detail what the consequences of their mistakes were. The Bible is a
very interesting book because it really does show us the results of
different social behaviors. So we are too learn from the Jews. But could it
be that there are beings learning from us? Why not! G-d said to the angels
that WE are his special people. Just as G-d told us the Jews were his
chosen people. So far we are messing up rather badly too. So there maybe the
possibility the we are to show the angels what happens when beings are just
let loose to do whatever they want to do with out G-d in the mix. Without
G-d we simply don't do well. Without G-d the Angels wouldn't do to well
either and maybe that's the point of all this!
My purpose here is not to convince anyone of anything but to simply show an
alternate point of view. You don't have to agree, as a matter of fact I
don't want to you agree with me! I want you to simply remember what I'm
telling you now. At some point in the future when things do come apart and
man kind is on the verge of destruction you might remember what I've said
and it might help you understand.
The point of this entire play is the fact that MAN can not make it happen
without G-d. We just don't have what it takes to resolve our problems. No
amount of control or force will stop man from attempting to control other
men. In this world as it is currently operating there can only be one top
dog, one top race and everyone knows it. We will continue to fight and kill
each other until there is no one left to kill and that's the facts here.
Am I paranoid about it! No! I'm simply an observer who wants to tell folks
about things they do not wish to see. Yes I talk a lot about history because
we need to learn from history. Nothing has changed, not really! You think
that we are better then we once were. We are still having war after war and
its not going to stop any time soon.
If we here in the US were to throw away our weapons a month later some
country would simply take us over because in the end that's how things work
here. So in order to cut this short I'm just saying that you don't have to
believe me. Want to call me names like Paranoid, go a head and have at it.
I'm just giving you something different to think about so that when things
really get out of control you can re-evaluate what's going on around you.
Indeed I would be paranoid if I was afraid of what I believe is going to
happen to us. But you see the G-d I talk to says that I must not be afraid
of what I see happening. G-d tells me to simply observe what happens and
tell others what I see. I'm to equate what I see to G-d's word the Bible.
G-d has told me to watch, not be afraid and I will see and understand the
wondrous works G-d is about to do here. In the end I will be with G-d in his
place, where ever that is! Sounds OK too me.
I am not going to bother reading the rest of this. Prove any part of
it and I may look it over. But prove it first.
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20 Dec 2004 03:02:02 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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| User: "Attila" |
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20 Dec 2004 04:07:18 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'. Additionally organizations change over time and
frequently evolve far beyond their strict beginnings as the necessity
for the organization changes.
I see you must go back a long way to find something to criticize.
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20 Dec 2004 04:22:35 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:07:18 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'.
What the founder believed and promoted does not mean
that it was founded upon those ideas? The fact is,
that Margaret Sanger had to change the name of her
organization more than once, since it promoted racism
and genocide.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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20 Dec 2004 04:38:20 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:22:35 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<m2kes09hrbi6448jfc10qc70uvvvrqof7q@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:07:18 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'.
What the founder believed and promoted does not mean
that it was founded upon those ideas? The fact is,
that Margaret Sanger had to change the name of her
organization more than once, since it promoted racism
and genocide.
So? That has nothing to do with the organization as it is today.
Jefferson owned slaves, and did George Washington.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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20 Dec 2004 06:06:28 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:38:20 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:22:35 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<m2kes09hrbi6448jfc10qc70uvvvrqof7q@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:07:18 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'.
What the founder believed and promoted does not mean
that it was founded upon those ideas? The fact is,
that Margaret Sanger had to change the name of her
organization more than once, since it promoted racism
and genocide.
So? That has nothing to do with the organization as it is today.
It has plenty to do with it.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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21 Dec 2004 05:19:16 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:06:28 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b7qes0hdkuo6fea6nksmf424eud079esv6@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:38:20 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:22:35 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<m2kes09hrbi6448jfc10qc70uvvvrqof7q@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:07:18 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'.
What the founder believed and promoted does not mean
that it was founded upon those ideas? The fact is,
that Margaret Sanger had to change the name of her
organization more than once, since it promoted racism
and genocide.
So? That has nothing to do with the organization as it is today.
It has plenty to do with it.
Not really. Organizations evolve over time just as any entity does.
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| User: "SeaWolf" |
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03 Jan 2005 04:06:16 PM |
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Attila wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:06:28 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b7qes0hdkuo6fea6nksmf424eud079esv6@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:38:20 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:22:35 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <m2kes09hrbi6448jfc10qc70uvvvrqof7q@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:07:18 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the
National Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood
is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger,
the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a
KKK rally in Silverlake, New Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK
has been on the side of Burk and the radical feminists for
quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization
is 'founded on'.
What the founder believed and promoted does not mean
that it was founded upon those ideas? The fact is,
that Margaret Sanger had to change the name of her
organization more than once, since it promoted racism
and genocide.
So? That has nothing to do with the organization as it is today.
It has plenty to do with it.
Not really. Organizations evolve over time just as any entity does.
But as I said in my post Planned Parenthood can be found mostly in minority
areas. Planned Parenthood has also been found to be going way out of its way
to promote abortion. There have been problems with Planned Parenthood and
the Girl Scouts in that they were infiltrating the troops and going way too
far in their promotion of abortion. I mean, lets think here! Why abortion
over adoption! Why not adoption first then if need be abortion! Are we so
over crowed in this country that we NEED to abort children? If we are so
over crowed then why are they letting millions of illegal people into this
country? As a matter of fact the American population is not dropping, its
imploding! The only reason why our population is growing is that we are
letting millions of people into this country. As a matter of fact there are
those who are now talking about allowing parents to kill children up to five
years of age if the children are found to be "defective" in some way. Where
is this coming from! Wow!
So, that's right, you don't care because you will not live long enough to
see the destruction that will come of all this! Got this from one of your
other posts.
So, that's not how it seems to work! Again, as I've said in my posts, people
in the US are now having to go over seas to adopt children, why? I've talked
to these people and they tell me its almost impossible to adopt here in the
US so they go to China, Russia and other places. So I have to wonder why
anyone would KILL a child when there are thousand of people out there just
ready and waiting to adopt them? I'm just not understanding this right to
choose thing! I do understand how you can change the demographics of a
society by changing the people.
Lets say you want to change the social ethics of a country. You can attempt
to use the media to convince people that what they believe in is wrong. But
there will always be people who pass their ethics down to their children
regardless of what you do. However you can also create a situation where the
indigenous population is pushed to commit racial suicide. As these people
stop having children or abort their children you allow massive numbers of
people from other lands into your country. Unlike the American people of the
past who believe in freedom and independence you are now importing massive
numbers of people who believe in getting what they can, however they can,
and who don't care what government does as long as they get what they want.
Another words if you bring in people who come from communist countries in
massive numbers well what are they used too! A communist government! If this
government gives them more then their old one did, they are better off, are
they not? Just bringing in large numbers of people who have a entirely
different social ethic system will change the social ethics of a entire
society over time. G-d understands this and that's why he didn't want the
Jews to marry pagan women from other countries! Where women would bring up
their children with pagan ethics not G-d's ethics and over time this would
change the culture entirely. The Jews indeed did marry pagans and in the end
their culture did change and was destroyed.
So now you have a change in that Americans who believe in the old ways are
in the minority and the illegal Aliens are now in the majority! The
president then gives them all immunity and you've got an entirely new set of
demographics just ready and willing to be exploited. California is now more
like Mexico then America at this point. I used to work with electronic
vendors in Sunnyvale California but now when I call them up to do business I
can't understand the person I'm talking too. They might as well be from
another country because I can't make sense of what they are saying to me.
So at least in the case of California so far we are seeing a change! The now
alien population are not having the abortions that the educated American
population is having and the results are really interesting to watch. I'm
watching a nation change right before my eyes into another nation. I think
that eventually the Bible and the American constitution will be thrown out
and America will become just another communist\Fashcist nation. Anyway, in
the end you will have no freedom to do anything but what they tell you to
do! As a matter of fact we will probably loose the freedom to choose and
they will tell you that you can only have one child like they do in China.
Its all conjecture at this point. But you can make a good case for what's
going to happen by looking at what has happened so far and by looking at
history. None of what we see going on today is new but has happened before.
The only things that is new is that we have the ability to wipe out so many
people so quickly. We think we are so educated and so enlightened! Ha! We
are making the same mistakes we have always made and in the end we are all
going to be apart of someone's herd.
Something isn't right here!
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21 Dec 2004 02:21:17 PM |
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Attila wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the
National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the
founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in
Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and
the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the
feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'. Additionally organizations change over time and
frequently evolve far beyond their strict beginnings as the necessity
for the organization changes.
I see you must go back a long way to find something to criticize.
Sir, if we were here discussing the KKK, the RCC, the Baptists or some
such other whipping boy of the liberals these days, you can bet your
***** you wouldn't be cutting these organizations the kind of historical
slack you're now cutting Planned Parenthood, or parsing the words and
history of their respective organizations like the abortovorkians are
now doing here with Planned Parenthood.
This gang has footnotes on dates when the Pope Pius XII farted but
struggles like hell to get Planned Parenthood's history straight. Maybe
tomorrow we'll be hearing Sanger's a figment of our imagination.
Cleopatra
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Planned Parenthood |
21 Dec 2004 04:39:28 PM |
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On 21 Dec 2004 12:21:17 -0800,
Merry_Christmas@linkedto.no-spam-allowed.com in alt.abortion with
message-id <1103660477.461004.73500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
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Attila wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id
<scfes0tir36q2fnbmbmifajbj6nvrqa80e@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the
National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the
founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in
Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and
the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the
feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
One position 80 years old hardly constitutes what an organization is
'founded on'. Additionally organizations change over time and
frequently evolve far beyond their strict beginnings as the necessity
for the organization changes.
I see you must go back a long way to find something to criticize.
Sir, if we were here discussing the KKK, the RCC, the Baptists or some
such other whipping boy of the liberals these days, you can bet your
***** you wouldn't be cutting these organizations the kind of historical
slack you're now cutting Planned Parenthood, or parsing the words and
history of their respective organizations like the abortovorkians are
now doing here with Planned Parenthood.
Your use of the coined term 'abortovorkians' clearly shows your agenda
better than anything I could possibly say.
This gang has footnotes on dates when the Pope Pius XII farted but
struggles like hell to get Planned Parenthood's history straight. Maybe
tomorrow we'll be hearing Sanger's a figment of our imagination.
Cleopatra
Frankly I could not care less. The organization as it exists today is
alive and healthy and provides many needed services to women.
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22 Dec 2004 02:53:55 PM |
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Attila wrote:
Your use of the coined term 'abortovorkians' clearly shows your
agenda
better than anything I could possibly say.
Right, Attila, and let us know if and when anyone in your crowd
exhibits similar hypersensitivity to terms like ignorant fundie,
racist, bigot, war-monger, redneck, trailer trash and a few million
more.
Cleopatra
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21 Dec 2004 06:30:23 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the National
Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, the founder of
Planned Parenthood, was a guest speaker at a KKK rally in Silverlake, New
Jersey. Yes, it appears the KKK has been on the side of Burk and the radical
feminists for quite some time. Applying the Burk Principal, the feminists
have "officially lost all argument" since at least 1926.
You are using a social cite 80 years old? Unreal..
Why? Because it shows what Planned Parenthood was
founded on?
Shall we go back 80 years and look into Christianities take on Blacks?
How about Women? How about adultery or unwed mothers or how women
were the reason they got raped?
Oh... let's look back at a few details of any sect of christianity...
shall we start with YOURS, "pastor"?
James, Seattle
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03 Jan 2005 04:46:06 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:02 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:58:03 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Attila <prochoice@here.now> pontificated:
Burk is chairman of a radically pro-abortion outfit called the
National Council of Women's Organizations. Planned Parenthood is
one of the
member organizations of the NCWO. In 1926, Margaret Sanger, t | | | | | | | | |