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Religions > Bible |
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"Pastor Dave" |
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14 Aug 2007 02:02:10 PM |
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Points to Ponder |
POINTS TO PONDER:
It seems that all we are hearing these days is that the
Preterist Movement is HERETICAL, but just Who's doctrine
is HERETICAL?... Which would be more heretical to believe...
That Jesus is a false prophet, or that He actually fulfilled
His promise in the first century? How could it possibly
be "heretical" to believe Jesus fulfilled His promises?
Wouldn't it be more heretical to believe that He failed?
....THINK ABOUT IT!
If Jesus is a false prophet, my faith is in vain.
If Jesus was wrong in His predictions...It means we can
not rely on Jesus for salvation either! But... Don't
despair, Jesus is GOD and there is NO OTHER, leaving
the only answer possible, that being true our interpretation
concerning future events has to be rethought and adjusted.
~BEK~
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Points to Ponder |
14 Aug 2007 02:25:53 PM |
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"Pasta Davey" <> wrote in message ...
POINTS TO PONDER:
It seems that all we are hearing these days is that the
Preterist Movement is HERETICAL, but just Who's doctrine
is HERETICAL?... Which would be more heretical to believe...
Unfortunately Davey, a heretic is by meaning, anyone who does not agree with
the established religions.
You are a heretic, as Preterist is a small minority of believers.
Rather than apoligize for being a heretic and protesting against that
designation, wear it proudly.
Jesus did tell us that Saulus the apsotate, would decieve MANY!!
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: Points to Ponder |
14 Aug 2007 07:47:19 PM |
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"Pastor Dave"
POINTS TO PONDER:
It seems that all we are hearing these days is that the
Preterist Movement is HERETICAL, but just Who's doctrine
is HERETICAL?... Which would be more heretical to
believe...
Don't include me in the group that is referring to you as
heretical. I don't think it's a heresy to form
eschatological opinions. We've been pulled from one group to
another as if it is a central tenet to the Christian faith
and a matter of salvation. But it is not. Heresy consists of
things like denying the deity of Jesus Christ, denying that
he died for our sins, or denying that he rose from the dead.
It would be a heresy to say that we cannot be reborn, or
that it is okay to sin, for example. But diverse beliefs in
biblical eschatology have existed for centuries. We will
always be interested in this subject, and I doubt we'll form
a consensus until history reveals its own answers.
randy
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: Points to Ponder |
14 Aug 2007 02:20:07 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:02:10 -0400,
in article <5uu3c3h3jpqla4ruo779335e8o1opcepu3@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
POINTS TO PONDER:
It seems that all we are hearing these days is that the
Preterist Movement is HERETICAL, but just Who's doctrine
is HERETICAL?... Which would be more heretical to believe...
That Jesus is a false prophet, or that He actually fulfilled
His promise in the first century? How could it possibly
be "heretical" to believe Jesus fulfilled His promises?
Wouldn't it be more heretical to believe that He failed?
You spiritualize these promises, until they mean the exact
opposite, and a mockery of what God said. Just like Glenn
claims to believe Jesus is "God", while denying it in
substance, so you pretend your spiritualized mockery of the
"promises" is you believing He fulfilled the "promises".
For example, you look right at the promise Christ would
resurrect and rapture the church (1 Corinthians 15; 1 Thess.
4:13ff.), then boldly claim there is no rapture, that
believers will not be caught up into the clouds, etc. Then
you spiritualize the promise until it means believers' dead,
physical bodies will remain dead, and they will not be
literally caught up and removed from the earth, and pretend
that's you believing in the promise.
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We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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