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"Bible John" |
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19 Feb 2006 06:27:08 PM |
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Possible upcoming debate for me |
Since I relocated I have been looking for a new bible driven church to
attend. I started attending a church called First Baptist (But I plan to
check out some fundamentalist churches in the upcoming weeks). Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?" The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
I will be contacting the office and will like to debate with this man. I
have a BA in Church Education Ministries so I would be outgunned against a
PHD, and why I would not consider this a formal debate.
But I'd like to defend the bible and its teachings on women and their place
in His church.
John
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1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
you, with meekness and fear
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
Founder and director
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
20 Feb 2006 11:25:44 AM |
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"Bible John" <> wrote in message ...
Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a
mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can
you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?"
The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
Johnny, you will find that the resident PhD, will simply dimiss your
arguments, as the raving of the idiot that you are.
Your only bais for your stand are the writings of that apostate, Saul of
Tarsus!!
No one in their right mind believes anything that Saul of Tarsus wrote any
longer.
Didn't they teach you anything at that rinky dink college you went to??
Smile.
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| User: "Hengroen" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
20 Feb 2006 03:07:40 PM |
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In article <sYmKf.6093$_62.3195@edtnps90>, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
No one in their right mind believes anything that Saul of Tarsus wrote any
longer.
Except where he tacitly admits that the Damascus road incident was a fraud
and that the Eucharist is his own invention
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
20 Feb 2006 04:01:59 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:25:44 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca>
wrote:
"Bible John" <> wrote in message ...
Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a
mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can
you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?"
The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
Johnny, you will find that the resident PhD, will simply dimiss your
arguments, as the raving of the idiot that you are.
Your only bais for your stand are the writings of that apostate, Saul of
Tarsus!!
No one in their right mind believes anything that Saul of Tarsus wrote any
longer.
I keep wondering exactly what about Paul's teachings terrifies some.
john w
Didn't they teach you anything at that rinky dink college you went to??
Smile.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
21 Feb 2006 04:56:55 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
Since I relocated I have been looking for a new bible driven church to
attend. I started attending a church called First Baptist (But I plan to
check out some fundamentalist churches in the upcoming weeks). Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?" The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
Keep looking, there should be a congregation in your area that has
sexism as one of the chief tenants in their doctrine. I know it is
sometimes hard for people like you to find a congregation that will put
up with an outspoken sexist. But, don't give up. Remember the story
"The Little Engine That Could".
If you get frustrated in your search, get a punching bag to take out
your frustrations on. Don't take it out on your wife (if you have one)
she already has troubles enough to deal with.
I will be contacting the office and will like to debate with this man. I
have a BA in Church Education Ministries so I would be outgunned against a
PHD, and why I would not consider this a formal debate.
But I'd like to defend the bible and its teachings on women and their place
in His church.
John
--
1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
you, with meekness and fear
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
Founder and director
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible
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| User: "Prometea" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
19 Feb 2006 07:31:51 PM |
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I mean what else is new
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| User: "Prometea" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
19 Feb 2006 07:31:32 PM |
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In article <1140395007_5727@sp6iad.superfeed.net>, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I relocated I have been looking for a new bible driven church to
attend. I started attending a church called First Baptist (But I plan to
check out some fundamentalist churches in the upcoming weeks). Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?" The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
I will be contacting the office and will like to debate with this man. I
have a BA in Church Education Ministries so I would be outgunned against a
PHD, and why I would not consider this a formal debate.
But I'd like to defend the bible and its teachings on women and their place
in His church.
John
nobody gives a stuff about you making a complete ***** of yourself
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
19 Feb 2006 08:22:08 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:27:08 -0800, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I relocated I have been looking for a new bible driven church to
attend. I started attending a church called First Baptist (But I plan to
check out some fundamentalist churches in the upcoming weeks). Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?" The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
I will be contacting the office and will like to debate with this man. I
have a BA in Church Education Ministries so I would be outgunned against a
PHD, and why I would not consider this a formal debate.
But I'd like to defend the bible and its teachings on women and their place
in His church.
John
John,
I think Hardees is giving out PHd's. You are more than qualified for
a PHd in Cheesy and with your PHd you would be his equal.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
20 Feb 2006 03:54:00 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:27:08 -0800, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
Since I relocated I have been looking for a new bible driven church to
attend. I started attending a church called First Baptist (But I plan to
check out some fundamentalist churches in the upcoming weeks). Today I
questioned some of the doctrine of this church (primarily their position
that women can teach Sunday school over men). The pastor whom I had a mini
debate with strongly encouraged me to debate with the church resident
scholar whom has a PHD in bible/theology. He said this after not having
answer my original question which was "If Women can teach over men, can you
show me in the bible where their biblical qualifications are mentioned?" The
qualifications for men are mentioned in 1 Tim 3.
I will be contacting the office and will like to debate with this man. I
have a BA in Church Education Ministries so I would be outgunned against a
PHD, and why I would not consider this a formal debate.
Glad you understand that a "BA" from a babble college is no match for
someone with a REAL Bible education, that is a Ph D.
You learned SOMETHING in babble college.
Haven't figured out quite what, yet.
And why you continue to post such in here where you have LITTLE / no
support is beyond me.
Perhaps you thrive on ridicule?
But I'd like to defend the bible and its teachings on women and their place
in His church.
Wake up, BJ! There are MANY conservative scholars who do not agree
with your/ John Mac's position on this issue.
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
john w
John
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
20 Feb 2006 05:22:40 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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20 Feb 2006 08:30:19 PM |
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<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em out
on the table?
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
21 Feb 2006 08:05:08 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:30:19 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old news 'froup:
<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em out
on the table?
I couldn't care less, personally- but this continual bragging and
lying of weathernutless just HAS to stop some time! :O)
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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21 Feb 2006 12:32:39 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:30:19 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em out
on the table?
Come on Terrell, they would have to die to lay their brains on the
table. Why are you talking so mean about the John's:)
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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21 Feb 2006 12:40:56 AM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:mtclv1h0qnf5ghvv7ijlqjtdq8vdlfen2c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:30:19 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em
out
on the table?
Come on Terrell, they would have to die to lay their brains on the
table. Why are you talking so mean about the John's:)
.....
BB
It was from an episode of "Bones" two of the male characters were arguing
and the forensic artist lady tells the Brennan character, "why don't they
just whip them out on the table and measure."
If you like forensic stuff, Kathy Reich's novels on which "Bones" is loosely
based are very good for the genre.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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21 Feb 2006 01:08:16 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:40:56 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:mtclv1h0qnf5ghvv7ijlqjtdq8vdlfen2c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:30:19 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em
out
on the table?
Come on Terrell, they would have to die to lay their brains on the
table. Why are you talking so mean about the John's:)
.....
BB
It was from an episode of "Bones" two of the male characters were arguing
and the forensic artist lady tells the Brennan character, "why don't they
just whip them out on the table and measure."
If you like forensic stuff, Kathy Reich's novels on which "Bones" is loosely
based are very good for the genre.
My TV time is minimal; but I am becoming a TV junkie as I already
watch the Stargates and Battalstar Galactica on Fridays, Deadwood on
Sundays, The Shield on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, and now I am getting
hooked on CSI. Woe is me.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Possible upcoming debate for me |
21 Feb 2006 09:27:11 AM |
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Bible Bob wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:40:56 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:mtclv1h0qnf5ghvv7ijlqjtdq8vdlfen2c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:30:19 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
<composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjkv1p3g5qtn0msdpekt5m5kqdlmrt9aa@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
Shall we all get our microsscopes out while johnw and diaperboy whip em
out
on the table?
Come on Terrell, they would have to die to lay their brains on the
table. Why are you talking so mean about the John's:)
.....
BB
It was from an episode of "Bones" two of the male characters were arguing
and the forensic artist lady tells the Brennan character, "why don't they
just whip them out on the table and measure."
If you like forensic stuff, Kathy Reich's novels on which "Bones" is loosely
based are very good for the genre.
My TV time is minimal; but I am becoming a TV junkie as I already
watch the Stargates and Battalstar Galactica on Fridays, Deadwood on
Sundays, The Shield on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, and now I am getting
hooked on CSI. Woe is me.
JERRY
I watch "Bones." Pretty decent crime show, more realistic in some ways
than CSI. The characters are great, too.
Otherwise, not much out there to watch. I try to catch "Veronica
Mars," which is on at the same time as "Bones" so I tape those to watch
later. We are waiting for new episodes of "The Closer" and sometimes
we watch CSI just because there isn't a lot else on. The wife always
figures out whodunnit on CSI in the first 15 minutes of the show
because it's so formula but some of the character relationships are a
hoot.
Yep, when was the last time YOU ever saw a former Vegas showgirl in
charge of a crime lab based on forensic evidence? When was the last
time you saw the head of the crime lab interrogating suspects?
But TV is fast becoming another vast wasteland of copycats, this time
copying shows about forensic science.
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| User: "Grinder" |
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21 Feb 2006 01:10:02 PM |
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But TV is fast becoming another vast wasteland of copycats, this time
copying shows about forensic science.
It's a familiar cycle. A truly inventive show comes along, and hacks
set out to copy the unique bits, and replace all of the characters with
pretty people. I first noticed it with Homicide: Life on the Street,
but I suspect it's been going on longer than that.
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| User: "john w" |
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21 Feb 2006 11:36:16 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:22:40 -0500, wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:00 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> said the
following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
I frankly know few who DO agree, and I am betting the list of scholars
I know/have studied with would run circles around yours.
******BRAGGART ALERT! BRAGGART ALERT!!******
I was drawing a comparison, genius.
Are you so 1-dimensional that you don't even understand comparison?
Evidently.
john w
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