Hi psllvn see my reaction: (pasted in e-mail)
<psllvn2004@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126814005.498415.102810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
:::::::Glorious Heaven::::::: wrote:
Dear Newsgroups Readers:
Do not take Vera's apologies serious. She has made several people
dissapear
from our and your groups.
psllvn answered:
I know. I saw that. She's now using the same gang tactics on
alt.suicide.holiday (ASH) that she has used over the years on ACC. She
is teaming up with other ASH "thugs" in an effort to control content
and excommunicate long term ASH posters who help people to overcome
their problems. Why she wants to do that is anyone's guess.
GH answers:
You are giving the exact description of the Vera problem.
I know why she excummonicate long term posters. Thats is because she
believes only in herself
as offering right solutions. 'Nobody else but me' she thinks. She does not
concieve others opinions.
Her opinion is the only thruth in her mind. This is very dangerous. That are
the first symptoms of an metahl illness.
I think that she must have lived an socially isolated life. That explains
her escaspe to satanism and witchdom.
GH wrote:
She will not tell you who she has reported to the ISP's Usually she
reports
anyone she disagrees with. The The likelyhood that you have been reported
is
100 procent .
psllvn answered:
No doubt.
GH wrote:
ISP's are saying that VERA & GRIZ are presenting themselves as the
chargers
of the public newsgroups including yours. They are doing that unlawfully.
In one of the e-maills (alst suicide holliday) she slightly admitted
that
she had done it again.
psllvn answered:
Thanks, GH. It is clear Vera has an agenda to control this ASH group
and still, also, ACC.
GH answers:
She had siapeared from the ACC groups for a month (why? possibly cut of by
her ISP?)
Then after that period she returned, she mainly did not respond to our
postings, she posted
postings solemly herself, and treated the postings as if she was not
interested in what people thouth about it.
She posts mainly bible scriptures that justifies her behaviour. Thats what I
call abuse of the bible.
Now I see that when she came back to your groups she did the opposite of
what she did in our groups. is she really a woman of unclever politics?
If she is doing this unlawfully reporting others for trouble she has
herself
caused and people get disconnected from the internet because of VERa's
incomplete reports, that means that she has committed a criminal crime.
Perverting the cause of justice.
Therefore I aske you all to prepare you reports for authorities about
VERA
Report her false activities to as many ISP's as possible and report her
fraud to the police Homeland security and the FBI
----- Original Message -----
From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:47 AM
Subject: FACTS ON VERA SIX
Let me brieftly explain the situation here on
alt.christnet.christianlife with "Vera Six".
Vera started here with exactly the kind of witch hunts you mentioned.
Since
her first posts on this Newsgroup Vera discredited a Christian Couple
Harold
and Donna Kupp. She publicly made false accusations against this
respectable
couple and with other unscrupulous posters of this newsgroups she
organized
a real Vendetta. To make the posters who do not abide by her rules leave
this Christian Newsgroup, Vera and her Gang have harassed, insulted and
persecuted, plonked, you name it. She claimed that this Public and
unmoderated forum is her Ministry and Church...
Vera Six and her Gang have been contacting the Internet Service Provider
of
many posters asking a cancellation of their accounts. Under a fake Id
Vera
posted on an australian forum to acquiere the phone number and address
of a
poster. On couple occasions Vera Six publicly posted that she will sue
me
personally, so these words: "I print out your liquid manure straight and
then tomorrow go to the attorney" are perfectly relevant to the present
situation here. The story of alt.christnet.christianlife is also getting
very dirty. For this reason many posters of this forum are interested in
knowing why "Vera Six" cannot post on de.soc.weltanschauung.christentum
and
exactly what was her involvement in that other "_very dirty_" story.
Thanks for helping in establishing the Truth,
David
PS: I pasted below a short sample of posts from Vera Six's Hooligans
chasing
Donna Kupp:
"Melchizedek" <Melchize...@as-if.com> wrote in message
news:vmlHb.30$y81.8@news.randori.com...
- She is probably a 7th Day Adventist (cult / legalist) and doesn't
understand Grace.
"Ben Mitts" <bmitt...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3FBA8FB9.5060602@comcast.net...
At what point did you decide to become an open liar! Donna!
--
Peace!
Sincerely, Ben mitts
"CBrown7281" <cbrown7...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031117140916.29142.00000400@mb-m12.aol.com...
Tell us your personal testimony and stop serving yourself as a blunt
wedge...
Who will see the love of God in your self - serving diatribes, which
only
serve to show your foolish nature... It is clear that all you want is
to
hear your own thoughts, and hope
to
bring
some validity to your madness... I for one see through your facade, and
see it as pathetic... You are a legalist through and through...
Your fruit has been nil, and always will be...so long as you fight the
Spirit
of Truth... You have authority issues, and all you seek to do is
establish
your
own...
You are obsessed with creating disorder and chaos. and have yet to
speak
a
single thought of truth, that is not tainted with arrogance, and
lies...
You also have an issue about being a spiritual martyr, and you thrive
on
it...SAD.
You would chomp at the bit, if you were allowed to establish the
guidelines... You would have this place running like you run your
household.. No
doubt,.A
sight , for sure to see.. ( *crack* ---~~~~~* A whip) Lies...you are
not
our friend... Sounds just like the kind of lie , that satan would lure
us
with...an
offering of light... Accuser of the brethern, with an agenda to step
into
a leadership
role,
or
worse an attempt to scatter the flock and injure the shepard... By your
innocent , guiding whip, no doubt.
What Sharp teeth you have grandMa...
Not to mention your slant on the truth...> Just like you, and satan to
quote scripture, and telling us of what
they
really mean...
Donna one of your everlasting desires has been to send this
newsgroup
into
leaderless confusion, so you can step in and "save us"...What a
joke...
Get along little doggy (wolf)...
"roverjack" <roverj...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vr0pm1lnd49v4a@corp.supernews.com...
Seems like I've seen this message somewhere before. Oh yeah, it was
you!
Today, yesterday, the day before than, the day before that. Is it
your
strange belief system that damages your memory? or your common sense?
or
your morals? or your intelligence?
"John McComb" <jmcc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:0XSrb.361882$6C4.64845@pd7tw1no...
If Diana feels that she should talk to the Kupps, then I say, talk to
the
Kupps. Personally, I don't talk to the Kupps because all I ever see in
the
'Kupps threads' is a whole lot of hogwash. Well, maybe Diana sees
something that I don't see. If Diana feels that she is lead by the Holy
Spirit to talk to the Kupps how can it possibly matter if someone else
voices the opinion that she is not? Just forget about it and talk to
the
Kupps. I don't like it because it means that I end up wading through
another slew of 'Kupps' posts. But then, that's my problem, isn't it.
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: MODERN CHRISTIANITY IS A HOAX!
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:11:45 -0400
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The Lord rebuke you Donna Kupp; both you and the man who sold you this
false-gospel are twice-cursed before God.
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: THE GREAT APOSTASY IS HERE -- IN ACC!
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:55:56 -0400
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If they are indeed a couple, Donna wears the pants and Harold is the
emotional one!
(And no, that is not a condemnation.
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: ACC Posting Guidelines - Periodic Repost (THIS IS A PUBLIC
FORUM!)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:07:33 -0400
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Donna sez:
Whoa, yourself! This is a public newsgroup --and you have no authority
to
reject anyone.
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and
disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
Tit 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
Tit 3:11 knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being
self-condemned.
We have authority from on High to reject a factious person Madame Kupp.
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: HOW TO TEST A TEACHER'S SPIRIT
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:09:48 -0400
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Donna, if your saviour is but a title to you - a word you trot out when
so-prompted. . .
then that is all your salvation will be.
Yours in Christ,
Griz
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The Shepherd protects His flock by exposing and driving away the wolves.
Exactly.
Please leave Harold and Donna Kupp.
This is not your flock - you have already admitted that we are not the
"flock" but the "lost". And as you have been asked to leave, you have
no
authority before God to remain here. Even Jesus Christ honoured a
request
(even from the "lost") to depart. Why are you unable to? The "Great
Commission" does not give you license to contravene the example of
Christ.
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: THE GREAT LIE~OH DONNA I AM PISSED AT YOU!
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And the strongest statement the Kupps will make against themselves
follows:
Harold and Donna Kupp.
What command did Jesus give to his disciples when they were sent out in
His
name - on a ministry ordained by Him - when they confronted those who
would
not listen to or heed their words? (Matt 10:14, Mar 6:11, and Luke
9:5).
Are you on a ministry ordained by Christ? Have we not rejected your
words?
What is your only recourse?
What command did Jesus show that He Himself -- the Lord of all Creation -
-
was willing to follow in Mar 5:1-20? What is the only course a genuine
follower of Christ can take when asked to leave? Can a "ministry of
Christ"
overshadow both a command and a practical demonstration from Christ?
You are officially asked to leave ACC. We as a group reject what you
offer.
Let God stand in judgment on us for this.
It remains, will you disregard both the command AND the example of
Christ
and remain when asked to leave?
Remember, a genuine ministry of Christ will not disobey the commandment
AND
the example of Christ.
Any spirit that would, is anti-Christ.
Show us who you serve Kupps.
It is time to give it a rest; and it's not even the 7th.
Yours in service,
Griz
ACC
From: "Griz" <g...@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: To whom *it* may "concern"...
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According to the Bible:
Jesus Christ is Yahweh (God) of the Old Testament who who was incarnated
as
a man, died on the cross, was ressurected, and sits at the right hand of
the Father.
HK
Then if Jesus Christ is Yahweh God, why can you not follow His command
and
later example of leaving where He was not welcomed?
If God Himself could get up and depart Gerasenes, why can the mighty
Kupps
not bring themselves to get up and depart a group that even their
Messianic
Sabbatarian fellows agree that they should not even be associated with?
Pride is a wicked master.
Yours in Christ,
Griz
--
You are mere animals living a mortal life
http://gourock.blogspot.com/
http://photogourock.blogspot.com/
http://www.carm.org/resources.htm
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/
Complaints about VERA send to:
office@ebf.org
http://www.ebf.org/ her pastor:
omplaints about VERA send to:
office@ebf.org
http://www.ebf.org/ her pastor:
--
You are mere animals living a mortal life
http://gourock.blogspot.com/
http://photogourock.blogspot.com/
http://www.carm.org/resources.htm
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/
Complaints about VERA send to:
office@ebf.org
http://www.ebf.org/ her pastor:
.
