"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
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"Rowland Croucher" <rccroucher@removethispleaseoptusnet.com.au> schrieb im

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First this, from Vera:

I kindly ask all of you to take a stance on that. You ALL know that

these

are false accusations. How do you Christians deal with that?

Simple, really... read on...

Who is there that can give proof for such mean and evil accusations
against me? Who?

You have a chance to say the truth now. Maybe it helps before I pass
this over to the police.

The truth, please tell the truth, tell it in the name of Jesus Christ.

Vera

Vera: I invite you to write a riposte to the article on our website,

along

the following lines:

Nothing will I write there!

I have nothing to do with you!

Take your accuses away at once.

'Although, by general acknowledgement, cultish thinking separates people
into 'for us' and 'against us'; 'orthodox and heterodox'; threatens

critics

with police action, excommunication etc. in some form or another;
discourages open debates/alien ideas within the group; is paranoid about
being called a 'cult'; ... I am not in this category for the following
reasons: _ _ _ _'

and I'll publish it alongside that article.

then this:

http://www.pastornet.net.au/jmm/articles/12094.htm

but nobody signed by name, they only wrote my name in full.

Who is responsible for your slander?

And they said I was a cult leader, and they said I was hostile

with people.

I would like to have some proof for such statements. Not only

views.

I frankly don't know who wrote this. Usually I put an acknowledgement,

with

the person's permission, or else use a general nom-de-plume of some

sort. Is

this yours, Mark? Or OWD?

Mark or OWD... Yes.

You sent OWD on my website as a spy, right? And you sent Mark as a
Bulldozer. Now stop it, take your false accuses away from your website.

{Sigh}

No, and no. I've met Mark in other contexts, not here until the last month.
And I've not met OWD except online, here, and recently. I haven't sent
anyone to torment you, my friend. I've never sent anyone to your website,
nor to this group.

I'm frankly interested in this, the first Usenet group I've heard of which
is accused of developing cult-like characteristics. Now if that information
is wrong, please correct it. There are plenty of lists of characteristics of
cults around. Simply refute it, and that's that.

Vera, let me say this as gently as I can. You need some help. You're
over-reacting.

If I can't find the author of that article, of course I will take it off, or
remove all the names. Every article should have someone responsible for its
authorship (it's a bit of a mystery how that happened). (Mark/OWD: can you
help me?)

Re Google: people can search newsgroups as easily as websites these days,
so, yes, we all need to be careful. I put that article on the website which
accused you and Griz of being leaders in a 'cult-like' group. You've a
couple of times accused me of leading a cult. We can do better...

(And in Germany most people are asleep at this time :-)

--

Shalom!

Rowland Croucher

http://www.pastornet.net.au/jmm/

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