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"higherdimensions7" |
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12 Nov 2004 07:48:57 PM |
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Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
Of courese he is Intelligent, Yes, that is him 'God' who
invented/created intelligence, Love, hate, greed,
everything that we experience!
The question is how did he manage to do all of this? He replies in his
Good Book, that humans must wait till the day when they will return
back to
him, and then he shall answer all these questions.
As God explains in the Good Book that he created the universe then he
decide
to create man in his own image, with all those feelings that we
experience,
and gave man supremacy over rest of the creatures, this basically sent
Lucifer frothing from the mouth with rage! and he begged God to give
him
freedom to approach human till the end of this world, and he shall
turn all of
this special creation against him. So, God replied that his wish shall
be
granted! and said to Adam and Eve, 'those who will appreciate and
praise his
fantastic creation and his work of art, and bow to no other than him,
and
follow his rules will be given place in luxurious Heaven, and those
who will
follow Lucifer will be lost in wilderness when earth runs out of fuel
to
feed humans. And this experience of heaven and Hell will last far
longer then the known age of
the universe, that is to say billions of years of pension vouchers and
life
of luxury in return for what each human earns in his lifetime form God
on
this earth!' The quality of the life that each human will be
granted in their next life will depend how they bartend in this life
on this
earth .
So chose wisely!
So, don't be disheartened when you see reckless cruelty to other
creature
and humans, as God assures you that all this pain and suffering from
hands
of Lucifer and his disciples will be well rewarded. So, if you suffer
then
you should try to hold your head up towards the Lord and cry out his
name,
that he is omnipotent, omnipresent,omniscient, listening and watching.
A super intelligent scientist may ask this question; why all this
suffering
and pain, is God big time into S&M? the answer is that things may not
seem
what they are, either it is one big bad dream, some crazy fact of
creation,
as according to 2nd law of thermodynamics out of nothing comes
nothing!
On the other hand this is as real as it gets, something terrible went
wrong,
it is equivalent to the great wars we experience on earth that mark
our
history books. Some of the angels rebelled? their isn't just one
Lucifer but
he as whole army with him. But this divine God has made this rule that
none
of them will show them selves to humans, or humans will be unable to
see
them, otherwise humans will find out the answer to ultimate fate of
humanity, a one of the toughest exam paper that any humanity has ever
seen.
Everybody will be able to pass in flying colours, there will be no
more
competition, no more greed, no more envy, etc . Mind you, animals like
dogs
to tend to bark into empty space, do they see something that human
eyes are
unable to see? Do all dogs go to heaven? if dog spoke like humans,
could
they have been able to answer the question for once and for all?
So, the answer to this Heaven & Hell conundrum is that should humanity
opt
for pension vouchers, or end up with a lamp that has run out of oil,
and
jinnee is nowhere to be seen :(
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The Christian god - is he intelligent?
When the Christian god created the first humans, his highly emotional
reaction to their first case of disobedience was such that it showed a
total lack of understanding as to why his creatures would do such a thing,
not to mention he also appeared to be taken by surprise, which is strange
since he's supposed to be omniscient.
He couldn't understand that humans are curious and independent minded.
This indicates a frightening lack of intelligence on the part of the
Christian god, not to mention a serious lack of control over his emotions.
Instead of reasoning with them, educating them and then giving them a
second chance, his reaction was to immediately throw them out of the
garden and curse all their decedents.
Then, many thousands of years later, instead of forgetting about the
unfortunate incident, he demanded the blood and death of an innocent as
payment for the old misdeed.
He's like a terrorist with a long memory and nothing else to do with his
time.
Then, in a bizarre twist, he allegedly sent his own son, a part of
himself, to die and make the blood payment/ransom to himself - the ransom
he himself set.
First he sets a deadly ransom for a minor misdeed which even a terrorist
wouldn't do, and then he pays for the pointless ransom himself.
Why make a death ransom in the first place?
This god is truly cuckoo.
It's plain to see that this god has no intention of teaching or nurturing
his creations. All he wants to teach humans is how to be mindless and
submissive eternal slaves to worship him and massage his ego.
Only immature, insecure and unconfident minds need constant praise and
attention. Anyone with enough intelligence and just a small amount of
modesty will neither desire nor tolerate any obvious forms of flattery or
praise.
Obvious flattery can be quite offensive and patronising to a superior mind
because to a superior being, a small creature's sanctimonious gestures are
completely transparent, especially when the creature has little or no
understanding or grasp of who or what it is attempting to worship. Subtle
forms of flattery might be considered acceptable but a superior mind
requires no such attention or feedback.
Religious ritual worship is the most obvious form of flattery and
strangely the Christian god laps it up like there's no tomorrow and even
demands it.
He must either not be tremendously intelligent or confident or he must
have a major ego and vanity problem to need that amount of flattery,
praise and glory to keep him happy and powerful.
If he's so great and powerful then he should be able to generate enough
glory by himself.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
12 Nov 2004 10:42:17 PM |
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"higherdimensions7" <HigherDimensions7@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9b13abf2.0411121748.61cf3f@posting.google.com...
Of courese he is Intelligent, Yes, that is him 'God' who
invented/created intelligence, Love, hate, greed,
everything that we experience!
How do you know it was the god of the bible who invented those things?
We are talking about a god who thought that insects have four legs instead
of six. (Lev. 11:21-23).
The question is how did he manage to do all of this? He replies in his
Good Book, that humans must wait till the day when they will return
back to
him, and then he shall answer all these questions.
By then it will be too late. In order to save ourselves we need to know the
answers now.
That's the problem with the Christian god. He always waits until everything
falls apart before he does anything and then he reacts with violence.
As God explains in the Good Book that he created the universe then he
decide
to create man in his own image, with all those feelings that we
experience,
and gave man supremacy over rest of the creatures, this basically sent
Lucifer frothing from the mouth with rage!
Yes. God is good at getting up people's noses. For every friend he makes, he
makes about three enemies.
and he begged God to give
him
freedom to approach human till the end of this world, and he shall
turn all of
this special creation against him. So, God replied that his wish shall
be
granted!
God granted Lucifer his wish to turn creation against God? What a fool God
was! (either that or they're working together like Bush and Kerry were).
That means Lucifer has been the God of this world all along and therefore
the bible must be Lucifer's work!
and said to Adam and Eve, 'those who will appreciate and
praise his
fantastic creation and his work of art, and bow to no other than him,
and
follow his rules will be given place in luxurious Heaven, and those
who will
follow Lucifer will be lost in wilderness when earth runs out of fuel
to
feed humans.
Why does a superior being need praise and appreciation?
Is he suffering from a lack of confidence?
And why is praise rewarded with a trip to heaven?
He must really be depressed to need it that badly.
And this experience of heaven and Hell will last far
longer then the known age of
the universe, that is to say billions of years of pension vouchers and
life
of luxury in return for what each human earns in his lifetime form God
on
this earth!' The quality of the life that each human will be
granted in their next life will depend how they bartend in this life
on this
earth .
Promises, promises.
So chose wisely!
So, don't be disheartened when you see reckless cruelty to other
creature
and humans, as God assures you that all this pain and suffering from
hands
of Lucifer and his disciples will be well rewarded. So, if you suffer
then
you should try to hold your head up towards the Lord and cry out his
name,
that he is omnipotent, omnipresent,omniscient, listening and watching.
That's just an excuse so he can continue abusing and slaughtering us.
A super intelligent scientist may ask this question; why all this
suffering
and pain, is God big time into S&M?
The evidence certainly does point that way.
the answer is that things may not
seem
what they are,
Then again things might be exactly what they seem. Did you ever consider
that?
either it is one big bad dream, some crazy fact of
creation,
as according to 2nd law of thermodynamics out of nothing comes
nothing!
On the other hand this is as real as it gets, something terrible went
wrong,
Yes. Something went terrible wrong during the compiling of the bible.
it is equivalent to the great wars we experience on earth that mark
our
history books. Some of the angels rebelled? their isn't just one
Lucifer but
he as whole army with him.
Yes. All those angels decided to start using their brains and god couldn't
handle that so he got emotional and lashed out in violence, as is his
trademark.
But this divine God has made this rule that
none
of them will show them selves to humans, or humans will be unable to
see
them,
In other words, more oppression and isolation.
otherwise humans will find out the answer to ultimate fate of
humanity,
Genocide! With one wave of his hand, God will wipe away his mistakes.
(We weren't mistakes actually, we just started using our brains and God
wasn't prepared).
a one of the toughest exam paper that any humanity has ever
seen.
It's not a tough exam at all. It's just that the text book was so badly
written.
It's so badly written that you need to employ or hire an invisible man
called a 'holy spirit' just to make some sense out of it.
Pity for those who don't believe in invisible men.
Everybody will be able to pass in flying colours, there will be no
more
competition, no more greed, no more envy, etc .
In other words mindless boredom which will only lead to another rebellion.
But hey, God loves rebellions (just as much as politicians love elections)
because he gets to show us how well he can destroy lands and smite people.
He's gotta get his fun somehow.
Mind you, animals like
dogs
to tend to bark into empty space,
Barking into empty space is often similar to what some preachers do during a
sermon.
do they see something that human
eyes are
unable to see?
Yes. They see the holy spirit, but you never see them worshipping it do you?
Of course not! Only humans worship.
(Actually dogs worship humans when you think about it. We are their gods).
Do all dogs go to heaven?
A dog that is well cared for is already in heaven.
It doesn't have to do too much of anything to get to anywhere so it doesn't
care too much what happens after it's death.
Some humans on the other hand can't stop talking about death and rewards.
Dogs get regular rewards every day but humans have to wait till they're dead
to get theirs. Humans are abused by their owner.
if dog spoke like humans,
could
they have been able to answer the question for once and for all?
Yes. They would simply advise you to look for a better owner - a less
abusive one.
So, the answer to this Heaven & Hell conundrum is that should humanity
opt
for pension vouchers, or end up with a lamp that has run out of oil,
and
jinnee is nowhere to be seen :(
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Absolutely.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
13 Nov 2004 08:53:05 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:42:17 +1100, "Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
How do you know it was the god of the bible who invented those things?
We are talking about a god who thought that insects have four legs instead
of six. (Lev. 11:21-23).
http://www.winonamercantile.com/photo/spider/locust.jpg
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| User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
13 Nov 2004 01:58:33 PM |
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"George Peatty" <pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
news:4u7cp0hu5bojcvjmtfs280outip9tolrkd@4ax.com...
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:42:17 +1100, "Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
How do you know it was the god of the bible who invented those things?
We are talking about a god who thought that insects have four legs instead
of six. (Lev. 11:21-23).
http://www.winonamercantile.com/photo/spider/locust.jpg
I think the back legs are merely folded up.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Bill Litchfield" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
13 Nov 2004 12:44:32 PM |
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"George Peatty" <pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
news:4u7cp0hu5bojcvjmtfs280outip9tolrkd@4ax.com...
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:42:17 +1100, "Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
How do you know it was the god of the bible who invented those things?
We are talking about a god who thought that insects have four legs instead
of six. (Lev. 11:21-23).
http://www.winonamercantile.com/photo/spider/locust.jpg
Umm, spiders are not classified as insects. They are Arachnids.
Shalom,
Bill
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
17 Nov 2004 09:25:35 AM |
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Or is that four legs, and two arms ?
"George Peatty" <pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
news:4u7cp0hu5bojcvjmtfs280outip9tolrkd@4ax.com...
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:42:17 +1100, "Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
How do you know it was the god of the bible who invented those things?
We are talking about a god who thought that insects have four legs instead
of six. (Lev. 11:21-23).
http://www.winonamercantile.com/photo/spider/locust.jpg
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Re- The Christian god - is he intelligent? |
12 Nov 2004 09:31:21 PM |
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higherdimensions7 wrote:
Of courese he is Intelligent, Yes, that is him 'God' who
invented/created intelligence, Love, hate, greed,
everything that we experience!
Something that never shows intelligent!!!!
All thse gods prove is the mass of unintelligence shown by the lemming type
followers of mythology
The question is how did he manage to do all of this? He replies in his
Good Book, that humans must wait till the day when they will return
back to
him, and then he shall answer all these questions.
As God explains in the Good Book that he created the universe then he
decide
to create man in his own image,
God does not explain anything in the bible, what you read there are words
written by other humans, in this case primitive simple people who were more
steeped in mythology than we are, today, thank goodness!
with all those feelings that we
experience,
and gave man supremacy over rest of the creatures,
Man's arrogence, nothing more. The animals are more superior to man. they do
not kill unless it is to eat, they do not hate, they do not create scientific
wonders that destory the atmosphere. arrogent humans will destroy themselves
in the name of their imaginary gods one day no doubt usinf nuclear weapons and
then this sad world will revert to the animals
this basically sent
Lucifer frothing from the mouth with rage!
Groan Groan Groan. your lucifer is imaginary just like you god - ever seen
that evil spirit? No, but evil spirits were imagined by the primitives who
dreamed up gods to chase them away. these are your contemporaries!
and he begged God to give
him
freedom to approach human till the end of this world, and he shall
turn all of
this special creation against him. So, God replied that his wish shall
be
granted! and said to Adam and Eve, 'those who will appreciate and
praise his
fantastic creation and his work of art, and bow to no other than him,
and
follow his rules will be given place in luxurious Heaven,
150 years ago ask anyone 'where is heaven' and they would point up to the
clouds and say "Up thar". Well they were wrong. now where is heaven?
and those
who will
follow Lucifer will be lost in wilderness when earth runs out of fuel
to
feed humans. And this experience of heaven and Hell will last far
longer then the known age of
the universe, that is to say billions of years of pension vouchers and
life
of luxury in return for what each human earns in his lifetime form God
on
this earth!' The quality of the life that each human will be
granted in their next life will depend how they bartend in this life
on this
earth .
So chose wisely!
So, don't be disheartened when you see reckless cruelty to other
creature
and humans,
You mean like during the Spanish Inquisition, the burning of witches and all
that type of thing>?
as God assures you
No god has assured me and neither has any god assured you. A little honesty on
your part would not be pout of place!
that all this pain and suffering from
hands
of Lucifer and his disciples will be well rewarded.
Aaaaah so the demons has some disciples 1 Well Well Well.
So, if you suffer
then
you should try to hold your head up towards the Lord and cry out his
name,
that he is omnipotent, omnipresent,omniscient, listening and watching.
and never appears, as He is so powerful. Groan Groan Groan
A super intelligent scientist may ask this question; why all this
suffering
and pain, is God big time into S&M? the answer is that things may not
seem
what they are, either it is one big bad dream, some crazy fact of
creation,
as according to 2nd law of thermodynamics out of nothing comes
nothing!
On the other hand this is as real as it gets, something terrible went
wrong,
it is equivalent to the great wars we experience on earth that mark
our
history books. Some of the angels rebelled? their isn't just one
Lucifer but
he as whole army with him. But this divine God has made this rule that
none
of them will show them selves to humans, or humans will be unable to
see
them, otherwise humans will find out the answer to ultimate fate of
humanity, a one of the toughest exam paper that any humanity has ever
seen.
Everybody will be able to pass in flying colours, there will be no
more
competition, no more greed, no more envy, etc . Mind you, animals like
dogs
to tend to bark into empty space, do they see something that human
eyes are
unable to see? Do all dogs go to heaven? if dog spoke like humans,
could
they have been able to answer the question for once and for all?
Dogs have a clear view of their life, too bad yours is cluded by self hypnosis
So, the answer to this Heaven & Hell conundrum is that should humanity
opt
for pension vouchers, or end up with a lamp that has run out of oil,
and
jinnee is nowhere to be seen :(
------------------------------------------------------------------
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote
in message news:41953003$0$32192$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
The Christian god - is he intelligent?
When the Christian god created the first humans, his highly emotional
reaction to their first case of disobedience was such that it showed a
total lack of understanding as to why his creatures would do such a thing,
not to mention he also appeared to be taken by surprise, which is strange
since he's supposed to be omniscient.
He couldn't understand that humans are curious and independent minded.
This indicates a frightening lack of intelligence on the part of the
Christian god, not to mention a serious lack of control over his emotions.
Instead of reasoning with them, educating them and then giving them a
second chance, his reaction was to immediately throw them out of the
garden and curse all their decedents.
Then, many thousands of years later, instead of forgetting about the
unfortunate incident, he demanded the blood and death of an innocent as
payment for the old misdeed.
He's like a terrorist with a long memory and nothing else to do with his
time.
Then, in a bizarre twist, he allegedly sent his own son, a part of
himself, to die and make the blood payment/ransom to himself - the ransom
he himself set.
First he sets a deadly ransom for a minor misdeed which even a terrorist
wouldn't do, and then he pays for the pointless ransom himself.
Why make a death ransom in the first place?
This god is truly cuckoo.
It's plain to see that this god has no intention of teaching or nurturing
his creations. All he wants to teach humans is how to be mindless and
submissive eternal slaves to worship him and massage his ego.
Only immature, insecure and unconfident minds need constant praise and
attention. Anyone with enough intelligence and just a small amount of
modesty will neither desire nor tolerate any obvious forms of flattery or
praise.
Obvious flattery can be quite offensive and patronising to a superior mind
because to a superior being, a small creature's sanctimonious gestures are
completely transparent, especially when the creature has little or no
understanding or grasp of who or what it is attempting to worship. Subtle
forms of flattery might be considered acceptable but a superior mind
requires no such attention or feedback.
Religious ritual worship is the most obvious form of flattery and
strangely the Christian god laps it up like there's no tomorrow and even
demands it.
He must either not be tremendously intelligent or confident or he must
have a major ego and vanity problem to need that amount of flattery,
praise and glory to keep him happy and powerful.
If he's so great and powerful then he should be able to generate enough
glory by himself.
--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved nor
disproved (agnostic).
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has
been for us." ~ Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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