jezebeth <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:39:15 -0800
drooled the following into the usenet arena in a continuing attempt to
divert attetion form his known lies about being a comabt vet. It doesnt
fly.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:05:41 GMT, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
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I hope that I'm not going to make anyone angry.
But I was curious what all the fuss was about, because my dad served in the
Korean War (Naval officer)...and was still enlisted during the Vietnam War.
Wow, you guys have been fussing over this a long time it appears.
I did some Google searching -- and this URL is what I came up with.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22john+w%22.+vietnam+war+typo&hl=en&lr=&i
e=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=FDu0b.359%24B8.52%40newsread2.news.atl.earthl
ink.net&rnum=1
" > >> > That was before I was sent off to war. "
If John W. wrote that, then I can understand why a Vietnam veteren (one who
actually was in Vietnam) would be very upset... there would be a difference
between being drafted... and "sent off to war".
That is certainly one POV. And I never said I was in combat. I was in
Actually, you are to gutless to make many direct statements about
yourself, & prefer to imply what a wonderful individual you are. But the
fact remains you did claim to be a Viet Nam War vet, & you in fact are
not. Care to try to pimp your claims at your local VFW post. If you are
indeed a veteran of that war, you can be a member, but you aren't
entitltled as your 214 would show.
NATO in Europe. However my base was involved in the secret mission (at
that time) of training pilots for duty in Viet Nam.
Another phoney cllaim, the USAF has m,any training areas for their piolts,
all stateside. They do use some forgein based training areas for AO Fam,
if you klnow what that is.
I was a jet aircraft mechanic in training. My job (my unit's job) was
to keep the airplanes in the air so the pilots could get in their
required hours before being sent off to combat.
Noi it wasn't,it was derense of Europe IAW the NATO agreements.
I have never hinted otherwise. When I visited the VietNam memorial
in my home town (DC) with my wife many years later, I ran into not
only Special Forces men, but Rangers, Special Ops guys, and even a guy
who had worn his Medal of Honor to the Memorial that day. As I seem to
recall, he left it there.
You recall many things no one else has heard of, that would have made the
news & is conspicious by its absence.
With 2 guys clustered around me, a SF and a Ranger, I explained my
service, and we ended up swapping stories. I told them I was not a
Viet Nam Vet, and they said, "if you wore the uniform at that time
It would be appreciatedd for the duration of john w's squirming & eluding
this & other questions in this post, if no real Viet Nam war vets answered
my questions to jezebeth aka john w.
Right they did jezebeth. Now, that SF guy, was he assigned to the 8th SFG
at Da Nang, was he an A team or B team member, Was he training Nungs? &
ydes peop,le, walksalone does in fact know who was at Da Nang.
you were "in the war," in whatever capacity. And never let any a-h say
otherwise.
Well, I'm not an a-h, but I will say it for all the world to hear, you are
a phony & no Viet Nam War veteran.
BTW, which Ranger battalion was that ranger assigned to, & was it in I
corp, II corps, III corps or 4 Corps. Maybe V corps. After three
consecuticve years of duty to that particular SE Asia vaction paradise
[64-68], I am familiar with the basics of the operations. So, which
answer are you going to pull out of your ***** this time?
The MOH winner agreed. They all concurred that those who are mentally
unstable and who give us s* for our service because we didn't dodge
bullets like they did, deserved one single acronym, which they told me
was "GFY."
Sure they did Jezzie, *& the name of this Medal Of Honor winner was, oh,
you forgot or he never gave it, sure, jezzie, sure.
I served, and I served proudly. I was the first in my family to do so.
There is no reason to believe you, & you know that. With your posted
history of lieng, why would anyone blindly accept your droll garbage is a
question I can't answer.
And when my illness became so severe (mental illness) that I could no
So, did you declare this illness before por after you came down on orders
for Nam?
longer serve in uniform, I was discharged, honorably.
A section 8 discharge is indeed not an unhonorable discharge, but
conditions can make it less than honorable. If the USAF figured you had
joined under false pretenses, if you ever did, then you could have been
denied benefits & possibly, all VA benifits for the remainder of your
life. Is VA your health provider, under the conditions you describe such
would be expected.
If anyone wants to look at the books, I received the Air Force
equivalent of the Article 13 (I think that's what it was). Mine was a
"39-12" Honorable, and it was created just for me. And THAT is MORE
than anyone in here needs to know, but I am not ashamed of it.
An article 15 I could b,leive, but that USAFdoes not create special
articles for discharge for dimplicks like you've demonstaraed yourself to
be. AS to shame, you are incapable of that human emotion, & your regard
for the sensabilities of others is non-existent.
I explain to clear up any confusion, for those who will be openminded.
I am extremly open minded, people do on occasion get things out of
sequence. However you are simply a liar as indicated by your posting
history & your continued attempts to inflate your knowledge of inadequecy
to where you can look a dog turd in the eye as an equal.
It just so happens that Clitymouse is more ill than I am, and he's
looking for people to attack.
Next thing everyone knows you will be claiming that there is something to
attack in your case. But you are simply another poser who's only claim to
fame is that it refuses to accept respionsabilities for its actions &
lies. Not that uncommon really, & like you, a drab & loathsome claim to
fame it is.
To which I reply, Clitymouse, "GFY!"
& a hearty ESAD & FOAD to you to jezebeth, the arcb group could use the
relief, not to mention airing out that your departure would facilitate.
I didn't start this war of words. I was asked about my service; I
RTeally, & just who asked about your service record. As I recall, you were
attempting to puff up your flacid self image when people started
examining what you were claiming.
responded. Clitymouse was one who in his various obsessions, HAD to
pick apart every word I typed. he's still doing it. I admitted OPENLY
That had to be drug out of you, while youwere kicking & screaming like a
cockroach exposed to light.
that I was NOT a combat vet, that I had never been to Viet Nam, yet he
MUST CONTINUE to go back MONTHS and rehash every word, AGAIN and AGAIN
and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.
Maybe you shpoiuld simply shut up?? If ypou can. You see, your reputation
for being a mediocre liar is your stellar asset, as well as your only
known assset.
What was a misunderstanding, Clitymouse has turned into an obsessive
need to call me a liar. Those who know me would merely laugh.
Why of course those that know you laugh at you. You are eminately
laughable, your lies tend to be transparent to someone that has no
investment in you telling the truth or lieing. To someone that has pushed
troops for upwards of 16 years, your best asset is that you are an
obvious charlatan.
John W
Snip portion of prior message john w can't answer without
incrimating himself more than he alredy has.
walksalone who has known some dispicable people & low lifes & has to
admit john w surpasses them all in that catagory.
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