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"Mitch Alsup" |
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01 Apr 2004 11:28:10 AM |
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Re: America hates Bush - get over it |
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4dnvs$30p$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
There has always been a simmering resentment against the USA;
Well, there was the US-funded terrorism in C. America 20 years ago.
too
loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than other
countries-- it has become a damn epidemic.
The US has a long history of supporting stable dictatorships instead
of promoting democracy.
Shouldn't that be:
The US has a long history of supporting UNstable dictatorships?
That is:
It the dictatorships were stable, our support would not have been
needed!?!
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
20 Apr 2004 02:10:27 PM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote
On 19 Apr 2004 16:51:02 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote in
message <a258afb5.0404191550.2ade432a@posting.google.com>:
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote...
(Mark Fox) wrote
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
America declared war on itself. arsehole Bush just got more Americans
killed.
arsehole Bush chooses to embrace Sharon at the same time that Sharon is
assassinating Hamas leaders.
Britain has condemned Israel.
How long will it be before Britain and the US fall out over Israel?
Britain should send a clear message to the US that if they continue to
support Israel's terrorism, they will no longer be able to count on their
support.
I think Britain can afford to risk losing their close alliance with the US.
friendship with the US could easily become a liability.
especially if arsehole Americans don't pull their heads out of their
arseholes.
LOL! I wonder how America managed to take down Saddam's Iraq in only
21 days, overthrow the taliban and convince Libya to give up their
nuclear program all while having their heads up their arseholes???
Inquiring minds want to know!
yes, America walked all over Iraq in 21 days. and yet American troops die
everyday in Iraq. everyday. just like what happened to the "victorious"
German troops in France in 1940 - 44.
How do the numbers compare with white landlords killed by black tennants
in South Africa?
Israel must die.
Are you man enough to do the job? - or just a sniveling coward hiding
out on the internet?
i'm smart enough to stay well away from Israel. i have no personal stake.
others will do the necessary.
They wouldn't let you into the country in any case.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
20 Apr 2004 08:20:21 PM |
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"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message news:<DAehc.69108$M3.22894@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote
On 19 Apr 2004 16:51:02 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote in
message <a258afb5.0404191550.2ade432a@posting.google.com>:
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote...
(Mark Fox) wrote
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
America declared war on itself. arsehole Bush just got more Americans
killed.
arsehole Bush chooses to embrace Sharon at the same time that Sharon is
assassinating Hamas leaders.
Britain has condemned Israel.
How long will it be before Britain and the US fall out over Israel?
Britain should send a clear message to the US that if they continue to
support Israel's terrorism, they will no longer be able to count on their
support.
I think Britain can afford to risk losing their close alliance with the US.
friendship with the US could easily become a liability.
especially if arsehole Americans don't pull their heads out of their
arseholes.
LOL! I wonder how America managed to take down Saddam's Iraq in only
21 days, overthrow the taliban and convince Libya to give up their
nuclear program all while having their heads up their arseholes???
Inquiring minds want to know!
yes, America walked all over Iraq in 21 days. and yet American troops die
everyday in Iraq. everyday. just like what happened to the "victorious"
German troops in France in 1940 - 44.
Yea. Aren't you glad Hitler took France? He made the world safer,
right? After all, France was building up its army, murdering its
citizens and burying them in mass graves, Raping the wives and
children of political dissidents, and invading its neighbors and
firing missiles onto the heads of innocent bystanders, so Hitler did
the right thing. lOL!
How do the numbers compare with white landlords killed by black tennants
in South Africa?
Israel must die.
Are you man enough to do the job? - or just a sniveling coward hiding
out on the internet?
i'm smart enough to stay well away from Israel. i have no personal stake.
others will do the necessary.
So that's the division of labor? You mouth off and "they" do the
work?
They wouldn't let you into the country in any case.
Israel would probably put a missile up your backside and you would
never hear it coming. LOL!
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| User: "Mel" |
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21 Apr 2004 02:55:48 PM |
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On 20 Apr 2004 18:20:21 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote in
message <a258afb5.0404201720.aa21f64@posting.google.com>:
yes, America walked all over Iraq in 21 days. and yet American troops die
everyday in Iraq. everyday. just like what happened to the "victorious"
German troops in France in 1940 - 44.
Yea. Aren't you glad Hitler took France? He made the world safer,
right? After all, France was building up its army, murdering its
citizens and burying them in mass graves, Raping the wives and
children of political dissidents, and invading its neighbors and
firing missiles onto the heads of innocent bystanders, so Hitler did
the right thing. lOL!
France was invaded because the British had sent an army (the BEF) there.
Germany wanted to protect it's rear before it advanced eastwards.
btw is America intending to invade Zimbabwe? if not, why not?
How do the numbers compare with white landlords killed by black tennants
in South Africa?
Israel must die.
Are you man enough to do the job? - or just a sniveling coward hiding
out on the internet?
i'm smart enough to stay well away from Israel. i have no personal stake.
others will do the necessary.
So that's the division of labor? You mouth off and "they" do the
work?
of course. there is no way i am interested in fighting for either Israel or
the Palestinians.
maybe you are, but I suspect you just loll at home too attempting to make
others look like idiots for doing exactly the same as what you do.
*****, arsehole.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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| User: "Mel" |
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21 Apr 2004 02:55:45 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:10:27 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<DAehc.69108$M3.22894@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
yes, America walked all over Iraq in 21 days. and yet American troops die
everyday in Iraq. everyday. just like what happened to the "victorious"
German troops in France in 1940 - 44.
How do the numbers compare with white landlords killed by black tennants
in South Africa?
hardly any actually. please do realise that South Africa <> Zimbabwe.
i'm smart enough to stay well away from Israel. i have no personal stake.
others will do the necessary.
They wouldn't let you into the country in any case.
sure. I'm not Jewish.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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| User: "Lord Gow, rogue bull of the 333!" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Apr 2004 08:50:50 AM |
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Mel wrote:
On 18 Apr 2004 07:36:51 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote in
message <a258afb5.0404180636.1d317148@posting.google.com>:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
America declared war on itself. arsehole Bush just got more Americans
killed.
arsehole Bush chooses to embrace Sharon at the same time that Sharon
is assassinating Hamas leaders.
Britain has condemned Israel.
How long will it be before Britain and the US fall out over Israel?
Britain should send a clear message to the US that if they continue to
support Israel's terrorism, they will no longer be able to count on
their support.
I think Britain can afford to risk losing their close alliance with
the US. friendship with the US could easily become a liability.
especially if arsehole Americans don't pull their heads out of their
arseholes.
Israel must die.
My, you liberals have quite a way with words...
*****.
LG (doesn't even really have to try anymore)
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| User: "Mel" |
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20 Apr 2004 03:40:51 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:50:50 -0400, "Lord Gow, rogue bull of the 333!"
<lordgow@lyahoo.com> wrote in message <1087m87hbldc63@corp.supernews.com>:
Mel wrote:
On 18 Apr 2004 07:36:51 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote in
message <a258afb5.0404180636.1d317148@posting.google.com>:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
America declared war on itself. arsehole Bush just got more Americans
killed.
arsehole Bush chooses to embrace Sharon at the same time that Sharon
is assassinating Hamas leaders.
Britain has condemned Israel.
How long will it be before Britain and the US fall out over Israel?
Britain should send a clear message to the US that if they continue to
support Israel's terrorism, they will no longer be able to count on
their support.
I think Britain can afford to risk losing their close alliance with
the US. friendship with the US could easily become a liability.
especially if arsehole Americans don't pull their heads out of their
arseholes.
Israel must die.
My, you liberals have quite a way with words...
*****.
LG (doesn't even really have to try anymore)
i'm not a liberal.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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| User: "freethinker" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Apr 2004 01:50:48 PM |
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On 18 Apr 2004 07:36:51 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c5rpl8$pc4$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
Iraq did not attack the U.S. 9/11 was a attack by a independent
Arab group founded by Osama bin Laden. None of the terrorist/freedom
fighters were from Iraq, most were from Saudi Arabia.
When attacked, then attacking the attacker is justified. But not
some one you dislike. What happened is we created some new enemies.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
08 Feb 2005 06:56:47 AM |
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"freethinker" <Freethinker@utopia.com> wrote in message
news:40841c4a.118631@news.airmail.net...
On 18 Apr 2004 07:36:51 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c5rpl8$pc4$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
Iraq did not attack the U.S. 9/11 was a attack by a independent
Arab group founded by Osama bin Laden. None of the terrorist/freedom
fighters were from Iraq, most were from Saudi Arabia.
When attacked, then attacking the attacker is justified. But not
some one you dislike. What happened is we created some new enemies.
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism. Let
terrorism succeed *anywhere* and more 9-11s are encouraged around the world.
Turn all terrorist attempts into failures and such acts are discouraged,
simple as that.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 Feb 2005 10:39:03 PM |
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Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"freethinker" <Freethinker@utopia.com> wrote in message
news:40841c4a.118631@news.airmail.net...
On 18 Apr 2004 07:36:51 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c5rpl8$pc4$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Mark Fox < > wrote:
Also, you misunderstand his meaning. He was clearly saluting all
honest decent people who stand up, speak out, and expose the two
faced, slick talking cockroaches for what they are.
Instead of defending them and their warmongering like you do?
When New York and Washington DC are attacked we go to war. Sorry if
you don't like that.
Iraq did not attack the U.S. 9/11 was a attack by a independent
Arab group founded by Osama bin Laden. None of the terrorist/freedom
fighters were from Iraq, most were from Saudi Arabia.
When attacked, then attacking the attacker is justified. But not
some one you dislike. What happened is we created some new enemies.
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism.
You're lying.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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09 Feb 2005 04:28:51 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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09 Feb 2005 11:01:48 PM |
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Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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10 Feb 2005 04:31:30 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
So that really bothers you that today's administration and legislature do
not place a high priority on the continued availability of diverse choices
of broadband access for consumers?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Feb 2005 09:29:11 PM |
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Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
So that really bothers you that today's administration and legislature do
not place a high priority on the continued availability of diverse choices
of broadband access for consumers?
The Bush administration does not place a high priority on ANY choices.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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10 Feb 2005 10:27:37 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cueprs$ga8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Feb 2005 11:55:00 PM |
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Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
Which happens to be often and about almost everything.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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15 Feb 2005 09:42:07 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuhhbj$vka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
To lie is to state what *you believe* to be untrue with the *desire* to
deceive
To tell the truth is to state what *you believe* to be true, without any
*desire* of deception
If a person *believes* the world to be flat, he would be *wrong* but *not
lying* when he states "the world is flat"
You have no idea if lies were told, *unless* you could *read minds*
Which happens to be often and about almost everything.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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15 Feb 2005 10:16:53 PM |
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Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuhhbj$vka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
To lie is to state what *you believe* to be untrue with the *desire* to
You're going to try the truly idiotic argument that nobody ever lies.
No pass.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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17 Feb 2005 10:59:25 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuuhfk$g9f$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuhhbj$vka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
<snip>
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
To lie is to state what *you believe* to be untrue with the *desire* to
You're going to try the truly idiotic argument that nobody ever lies.
Wrong, there are people who state what they know to be untrue, with the
intent of deception. I know this because they have admitted to it.
But, my argument holds, you can't read minds, and thus can't know they lied,
UNLESS they tell you that they did.
No pass.
You would rather pretend that you can read minds
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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17 Feb 2005 10:51:13 PM |
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Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuuhfk$g9f$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuhhbj$vka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
<snip>
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
To lie is to state what *you believe* to be untrue with the *desire* to
You're going to try the truly idiotic argument that nobody ever lies.
Wrong, there are people who state what they know to be untrue,
How do you know that they don't just believe what they state?
I know this because they have admitted to it.
The classic "I am lying" paradox.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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27 Feb 2005 01:52:24 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cv3s80$ts4$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuuhfk$g9f$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
<snip>
Like what?
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea
what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
I don't care what they believe. I care when they lie.
To lie is to state what *you believe* to be untrue with the *desire* to
You're going to try the truly idiotic argument that nobody ever lies.
Wrong, there are people who state what they know to be untrue,
How do you know that they don't just believe what they state?
Same thing, like you don't know. We oft think we know what we 'believe' to
be true, is true. Again, what I said holds, you don't know their thoughts.
I know this because they have admitted to it.
The classic "I am lying" paradox.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
10 Feb 2005 10:26:09 PM |
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In article <110ocf1ql3t4v65@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cueprs$ga8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
Because they constantly lie about it?
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
15 Feb 2005 09:43:02 PM |
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Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <110ocf1ql3t4v65@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cueprs$ga8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Terrorists attacked us in 9-11, Saddam's government supported
terrorism.
You're lying.
You're stupid.
At least I'm not stupid enough to believe Bush and his cronies when
they lie to me.
Naw, you just believe anti-USA propaganda
You can't read minds any better than the next guy. You have no idea what
Bush and his cronies believe / don't believe to be true.
Because they constantly lie about it?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
18 Feb 2005 10:26:06 AM |
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In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
18 Feb 2005 02:55:04 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
And God put you and Ray on this Earth to bring that message,
"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall
prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed
in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks
standing before the God of the earth.
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and
devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this
manner be killed.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their
prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to
smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that
ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and
shall overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which
spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was
crucified.
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see
their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their
dead bodies to be put in graves.
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make
merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets
tormented them that dwelt on the earth." Revelation 11:3-10
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 07:09:56 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 07:17:43 PM |
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In article <111fo8jldg3ri7e@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
I don't need to read minds. I just look at what he says and compare it
to the truth. Try it sometime.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 08:13:55 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <111fo8jldg3ri7e@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
I don't need to read minds. I just look at what he says and compare it
to the truth. Try it sometime.
What do you know of the truth?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 08:15:45 PM |
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In article <DnSRd.26939$H05.4281@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Douglas D.
Anderson <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <111fo8jldg3ri7e@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
I don't need to read minds. I just look at what he says and compare it
to the truth. Try it sometime.
What do you know of the truth?
Is this it from you?
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 08:17:30 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <DnSRd.26939$H05.4281@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Douglas D.
Anderson <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <111fo8jldg3ri7e@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
I don't need to read minds. I just look at what he says and compare it
to the truth. Try it sometime.
What do you know of the truth?
Is this it from you?
You're dodging the question, which was, "what do you know
of the truth?"
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: The Democrats hate Bush - get over it |
19 Feb 2005 09:28:33 PM |
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In article <_qSRd.26940$H05.11980@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Douglas D.
Anderson <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <DnSRd.26939$H05.4281@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Douglas D.
Anderson <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote
In article <111fo8jldg3ri7e@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180220050826069014%spam@aol.com...
In article <1115fnf5mndjn21@corp.supernews.com>, Christian Mystic\
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
Wrong and lie aren't the same thing
Correct. Bush out and out LIES.
You can't read minds, no matter how much you pretend that you can.
I don't need to read minds. I just look at what he says and compare it
to the truth. Try it sometime.
What do you know of the truth?
Is this it from you?
You're dodging the question, which was, "what do you know
of the truth?"
You were serious about that? OK - I know everything about the truth.
And I haven't forgotten the original issue - Bush lies.
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