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01 Apr 2004 11:28:10 AM |
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Re: America hates Bush - get over it |
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c4dnvs$30p$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
There has always been a simmering resentment against the USA;
Well, there was the US-funded terrorism in C. America 20 years ago.
too
loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than other
countries-- it has become a damn epidemic.
The US has a long history of supporting stable dictatorships instead
of promoting democracy.
Shouldn't that be:
The US has a long history of supporting UNstable dictatorships?
That is:
It the dictatorships were stable, our support would not have been
needed!?!
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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19 Apr 2004 07:14:02 PM |
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"Claytie the Umpire Slayer" <cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote in
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:36:46 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5uhru$qs5$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace. The Iraqis
themselves also seem not to have fully grasped onto this little
detail, either.
I'm afraid you are severely wrong there. The rate of deaths caused by the
coalition is three times that of Saddam, only now it's totally
indiscriminate...not to mention the destruction on non-military property
and
infrastructure that has sent Iraq back to the stone age. They may have
suffered under Saddam, but they are far, far worse off now, and will be
for
many, many years to come...especially when the inevitable Taliban style
theocrasy takes over the country. Not only hasn't the invasion of Iraq
reduced terrorism as Bush lied it would....but has made it thousands of
times worse and ensured it will continue for many, many generations to
come.
Bush is the greatest war criminal in the world today...and he will not
only
get away scot free...he will be praised as a hero by many.
Bush will not get off scot-free. His anti-american magot regime has been
exposed and he has commited impeachable offenses.
Bush is history.
Making history, perhaps.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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18 Apr 2004 05:05:41 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:03:09 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
<vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:36:46 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5uhru$qs5$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace. The Iraqis
themselves also seem not to have fully grasped onto this little
deta
No. You're confusing Saddam with the effect of sanctions, DU
munitions, deliberately destroyed water treatment during Gulf War 1.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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18 Apr 2004 05:16:38 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:03:09 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
<vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:36:46 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5uhru$qs5$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace. The Iraqis
themselves also seem not to have fully grasped onto this little
deta
No. You're confusing Saddam with the effect of sanctions, DU
munitions, deliberately destroyed water treatment during Gulf War 1.
I'd like to see how a destroyed water treatment plant could cause political
opponents to fall into a plastic shredder... that'd be some trick, a regular
Rube Goldberg sort of thing.
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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18 Apr 2004 08:22:07 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:16:38 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:03:09 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
<vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:36:46 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5uhru$qs5$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace. The Iraqis
themselves also seem not to have fully grasped onto this little
deta
No. You're confusing Saddam with the effect of sanctions, DU
munitions, deliberately destroyed water treatment during Gulf War 1.
I'd like to see how a destroyed water treatment plant could cause political
opponents to fall into a plastic shredder... that'd be some trick, a regular
Rube Goldberg sort of thing.
"It was an accident."
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V.G.
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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18 Apr 2004 08:21:44 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:05:41 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<qru580t611cb0i3uh4a08dsi7demsm9b6b@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:03:09 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
<vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:36:46 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5uhru$qs5$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace. The Iraqis
themselves also seem not to have fully grasped onto this little
deta
No. You're confusing Saddam with the effect of sanctions, DU
munitions, deliberately destroyed water treatment during Gulf War 1.
UN sanctions were gassing people, shooting people by the thousands and
burying them in mass graves? Wow! They're much more effective than I
ever imagined. Why did we stop them?
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V.G.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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18 Apr 2004 06:48:17 PM |
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "ur_droll" |
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19 Apr 2004 01:32:06 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote in message
news:c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
: > (Ray Fischer)
:
: >>The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
: >>Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
: >>is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
: >
: >In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
: >killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
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: You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
: in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
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: And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
: being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
:
Don't go using logic.... it's a foreign concept to fuckwits in denial.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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18 Apr 2004 07:44:57 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message news:c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
From the war powers act of 1973-
"c) Notwithstanding subsection (b), at any time that United States Armed Forces are engaged in
hostilities outside the territory of the United States, its possessions and territories without
a declaration of war or specific statutory authorization, such forces shall be removed by the
President if the Congress so directs by concurrent resolution. "
For those fluent in English this means that if Congress, which is freely elected by
Americans, so directs the President, armed forces must desist hostilities and be
removed. If Americans would elect Congress people who would so direct the
President, such hostilities would end. To rant on about Bush this and Bush that
merely demonstrates your paranoia.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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18 Apr 2004 08:25:08 PM |
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Douglas D. Anderson <dda@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message news:c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
From the war powers act of 1973-
"c) Notwithstanding subsection (b), at any time that United States Armed Forces are engaged in
hostilities outside the territory of the United States, its possessions and territories without
a declaration of war or specific statutory authorization, such forces shall be removed by the
President if the Congress so directs by concurrent resolution. "
For those fluent in English this means that if Congress, which is freely elected by
Americans, so directs the President, armed forces must desist hostilities and be
removed. If Americans would elect Congress people who would so direct the
President, such hostilities would end. To rant on about Bush this and Bush that
merely demonstrates your paranoia.
Who is the Commander in Chief?
Who ordered the invasion of Iraq?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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18 Apr 2004 08:23:00 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****.
YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
HAND.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"I are so sure of yourself don't you .. (ehe ehe ehe)" - Peitro Alitardia (67d7a369.0404071016.2364431d@posting.google.com)
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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18 Apr 2004 10:49:48 PM |
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****.
YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
And you're still a liar. 20,000+ Iraqis dead in the last year.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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19 Apr 2004 06:05:52 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c5vi8r$7qf$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****.
YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
And you're still a liar. 20,000+ Iraqis dead in the last year.
Sounds like we're winning.
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| User: "ur_droll" |
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19 Apr 2004 06:28:24 AM |
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94D048323711Cxomicron@0.0.0.1...
: (Ray Fischer) wrote in
: news:c5vi8r$7qf$1@bolt.sonic.net:
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: > Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
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: >>On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
: >>Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
: >><c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
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: >>>Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
: >>>> (Ray Fischer)
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: >>>>>The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
: >>>>>Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
: >>>>>is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
: >>>>
: >>>>In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
: >>>>killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
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: >>>You're full of *****.
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: >>YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
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: > And you're still a liar. 20,000+ Iraqis dead in the last year.
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: Sounds like we're winning.
Misspelled "whining"
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20 Apr 2004 03:41:13 AM |
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On 19 Apr 2004 11:05:52 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
<Xns94D048323711Cxomicron@0.0.0.1>:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:c5vi8r$7qf$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****.
YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
And you're still a liar. 20,000+ Iraqis dead in the last year.
Sounds like we're winning.
how quickly you forget the lesson of Vietnam.
victory in VN was measured in body counts.
body count doesn't mean much.
Russian losses in WWII far exceeded those of Germany, but Germany still got
crushed like a bug.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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18 Apr 2004 11:02:09 PM |
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YIKES! I'm, like, all crushed, and stuff! And you're still wrong.
And you're still a liar. 20,000+ Iraqis dead in the last year.
It's called war you dipshit.
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18 Apr 2004 07:01:00 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
Bush hasn't killed anyone, He's been safely tucked away over here.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
You don't understand war do you?
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18 Apr 2004 08:22:50 PM |
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L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
Bush hasn't killed anyone, He's been safely tucked away over here.
Just like Hitler didn't kill anyone and bin Laden didn't kill anyone.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 Apr 2004 07:29:33 PM |
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L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote in
news:1d60a768332891ee036bd62233ef1d57@news.teranews.com:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
Bush hasn't killed anyone, He's been safely tucked away over here.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
You don't understand war do you?
People like him tend not to.
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18 Apr 2004 07:43:17 PM |
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94CFD074C693Bxomicron@0.0.0.1...
L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote in
news:1d60a768332891ee036bd62233ef1d57@news.teranews.com:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
Bush hasn't killed anyone, He's been safely tucked away over here.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
You don't understand war do you?
People like him tend not to.
Unfortunately they don't understand.
Although I don't agree with Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, I still
support the removal of Saddam. It was the right thing to do.
Where were these bleeding heart liberals that pretend to care about the
military deaths, when
we loose hundreds every year due to accidents, training, and so forth?
You never hear a word.
They don't care about the American soldier. Evidence of this is when you ask
them what happened on September 11th
Their answer is, planes hit the World Trade Center.
What you don't hear is them mention the pentagon.
Why?
Because the Pentagon represents military. Most liberals hate the military,
they hate anyone that serves in the military and could care less what
happens to them.
Now we are in Iraq, and we are losing soldiers in a war. Imagine that,
losing soldiers in a war. Who would have figured. Any way, they pretend
they care.
They don't.
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19 Apr 2004 03:19:04 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:43:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote
in message <VpOdndpQ4sGevR7dRVn-vg@comcast.com>:
Although I don't agree with Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, I still
support the removal of Saddam. It was the right thing to do.
so you agree then that the US war on Iraq was completely illegitimate?
do you realise that less than 100 000 people on the face of this planet
think that the US invasion of Iraq was legitimate?
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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18 Apr 2004 08:24:09 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately they don't understand.
***** Heishman has argued for a war which has killed 20,000+ people
for what Heishman admits was a mistake.
Although I don't agree with Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, I still
support the removal of Saddam.
Another big-government I-know-what's-best-for-you liberal control
freak.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "L.S.Lamey" |
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18 Apr 2004 07:36:20 PM |
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On 19 Apr 2004 00:29:33 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote in
news:1d60a768332891ee036bd62233ef1d57@news.teranews.com:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
Bush hasn't killed anyone, He's been safely tucked away over here.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
You don't understand war do you?
People like him tend not to.
Check yer mail in a second.
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| User: "ÑðS-|-MÐ" |
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19 Apr 2004 03:42:12 PM |
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Ray Fischer, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious
oxygen, hurled 20 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into
alt.tasteless.jokes on Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:48:17 GMT with this little
gem.. <c5v440$l82$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
The FACT is that the US invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of
Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. And all you can do
is screech your idiotic slogans as if they meant something.
In over a year of war, we still killed fewer Iraqis than Saddam was
killing every month, in a supposed time of peace.
You're full of *****. Bush has killed well over 20,000 Iraqis
in the last year. That's a much faster rate than Saddam's killing.
And Bush's little jihad has also resulted in well over 600 Americans
being killed. Far, far more Americans than Saddam ever killed.
600 _plus_ the 3,047 from 9/11
MÐ
Frequent lock-ups are a symptom of not enough memory in the same
way nosebleeds are a symptom of gunshot wounds to the head..
"'good'?!? ..she can suck a red-giant through a pipette!"
"It's unjustified and illogical to massage data and
direct observation in such a manner as to force
reality to conform to a mathematical premis..
...Einstein's a fuckin' moron"
Whoever has an army has power.. and war decides everything
--Mao Tse-Tung
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| User: "ÑðS-|-MÐ" |
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19 Apr 2004 02:55:19 PM |
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Ray Fischer, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious
oxygen, hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into
alt.tasteless.jokes on Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:18:04 GMT with this little
gem.. <c5ud8b$k0n$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote:
Exactly how is he "saving" anyone's *****?
By keeping you free.
Are you insane? Do you not notice that your slogans make no sense?
Invading Iraq had nothing to do with keeping Americans free or
protecting Americans from attacks. Nothing.
In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
goal of world domination.. priceless
If you weren't a coward and had the balls to put
on a uniform and pick up a gun, you might get a clue.
And why do you think that killing thousands of innnocent people makes
you free?
In this case.. it did!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
MÐ
Frequent lock-ups are a symptom of not enough memory in the same
way nosebleeds are a symptom of gunshot wounds to the head..
"'good'?!? ..she can suck a red-giant through a pipette!"
"It's unjustified and illogical to massage data and
direct observation in such a manner as to force
reality to conform to a mathematical premis..
...Einstein's a fuckin' moron"
Whoever has an army has power.. and war decides everything
--Mao Tse-Tung
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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21 Apr 2004 04:02:01 PM |
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"ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com> wrote in
news:aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com:
Ray Fischer, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious
oxygen, hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into
alt.tasteless.jokes on Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:18:04 GMT with this little
gem.. <c5ud8b$k0n$1@bolt.sonic.net>:
L.S.Lamey <teandson@netzero.net> wrote:
Exactly how is he "saving" anyone's *****?
By keeping you free.
Are you insane? Do you not notice that your slogans make no sense?
Invading Iraq had nothing to do with keeping Americans free or
protecting Americans from attacks. Nothing.
In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
goal of world domination.. priceless
What's even better is that the LIE-berals think President Bush has an IQ
of 0, yet is capable of pulling off such an elaborate attack.
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| User: "Mel" |
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20 Apr 2004 03:41:16 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:55:19 -0600, "ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com>
wrote in message <aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com>:
In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
goal of world domination.. priceless
Bush should mail himself a packet of anthrax.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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20 Apr 2004 06:50:11 PM |
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Mel, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious oxygen,
hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into alt.tasteless.jokes
on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:41:16 +0200 with this little gem..
<bcj980dvj2i9vs2c7dprcp6ifbash2c1ob@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:55:19 -0600, "ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com>
wrote in message <aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com>:
In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
goal of world domination.. priceless
Bush should mail himself a packet of anthrax.
the amazing part is how effectively ingrained the lies of 9/11 are
into people's minds. I don't know if VCRs have made it as far as
South Africa yet, but you should rent a good video on the tower
collapses and ask yourself.. why are two of the strongest central
cored buildings in the world falling at the speed of freefall?
Firefighters didn't just hear one explosion.. they heard detonations
throughout the entire collapse of both buildings.
MÐ
Frequent lock-ups are a symptom of not enough memory in the same
way nosebleeds are a symptom of gunshot wounds to the head..
"'good'?!? ..she can suck a red-giant through a pipette!"
"It's unjustified and illogical to massage data and
direct observation in such a manner as to force
reality to conform to a mathematical premis..
...Einstein's a fuckin' moron"
Whoever has an army has power.. and war decides everything
--Mao Tse-Tung
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| User: "ur_droll" |
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| Title: Re: America loves Bush - get over it |
21 Apr 2004 05:13:23 AM |
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"ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com> wrote in message
news:hpdb80lappgj8v2l99v9ma2gek0kk4dr2m@4ax.com...
: Mel, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious oxygen,
: hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into alt.tasteless.jokes
: on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:41:16 +0200 with this little gem..
: <bcj980dvj2i9vs2c7dprcp6ifbash2c1ob@4ax.com>:
:
: >On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:55:19 -0600, "ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com>
: >wrote in message <aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com>:
: >>In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
: >>Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
: >>policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
: >>"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
: >>prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
: >>military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
: >>to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
: >>bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
: >>fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
: >>goal of world domination.. priceless
: >
: >Bush should mail himself a packet of anthrax.
:
: the amazing part is how effectively ingrained the lies of 9/11 are
: into people's minds. I don't know if VCRs have made it as far as
: South Africa yet, but you should rent a good video on the tower
: collapses and ask yourself.. why are two of the strongest central
: cored buildings in the world falling at the speed of freefall?
: Firefighters didn't just hear one explosion.. they heard detonations
: throughout the entire collapse of both buildings.
You moron.... No explosions (check videos)... the sounds were
generated by collapsing structure.
The impact of the planes and resultant explosion did not directly
cause the collapse, they did however strip the fire protection from
the steel support structure (inappropriate choice of asbestos based
fire protection applications, a large portion of which new yorkers
were privileged enough to have inhaled) * hope you got yours*
which was subsequently heated enough (by the ongoing fire) to fail
under the load of the floor levels above... and the ongoing domino
effect as each collapse impacted on (and caused the collapse of )
the floor below.
The "core" of the buildings did not "freefall"... large sections of
exterior walls peeling off and falling, could however give 'shallow
thinkers' that impression.
It was ***** poor planing (for risk on a project of that scale) that
was the determining factor in the extent of damage to property
and loss of lives.
HTH
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| User: "ÑðS-|-MÐ" |
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21 Apr 2004 08:05:06 PM |
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ur_droll, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious
oxygen, hurled 57 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into
alt.tasteless.jokes on Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:13:23 +1200 with this
little gem.. <CPrhc.1267$_s.39926@news.xtra.co.nz>:
"ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com> wrote in message
news:hpdb80lappgj8v2l99v9ma2gek0kk4dr2m@4ax.com...
: Mel, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious oxygen,
: hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into alt.tasteless.jokes
: on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:41:16 +0200 with this little gem..
: <bcj980dvj2i9vs2c7dprcp6ifbash2c1ob@4ax.com>:
:
: >On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:55:19 -0600, "ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com>
: >wrote in message <aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com>:
: >>In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
: >>Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
: >>policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
: >>"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
: >>prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
: >>military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
: >>to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars and
: >>bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
: >>fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
: >>goal of world domination.. priceless
: >
: >Bush should mail himself a packet of anthrax.
:
: the amazing part is how effectively ingrained the lies of 9/11 are
: into people's minds. I don't know if VCRs have made it as far as
: South Africa yet, but you should rent a good video on the tower
: collapses and ask yourself.. why are two of the strongest central
: cored buildings in the world falling at the speed of freefall?
: Firefighters didn't just hear one explosion.. they heard detonations
: throughout the entire collapse of both buildings.
You moron.... No explosions (check videos)... the sounds were
generated by collapsing structure.
http://911.justiceforwoody.org/videos/docs/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg
The impact of the planes and resultant explosion did not directly
cause the collapse, they did however strip the fire protection from
the steel support structure (inappropriate choice of asbestos based
fire protection applications, a large portion of which new yorkers
were privileged enough to have inhaled) * hope you got yours*
which was subsequently heated enough (by the ongoing fire) to fail
under the load of the floor levels above... and the ongoing domino
effect as each collapse impacted on (and caused the collapse of )
the floor below.
i.e. the "truss theory"
...here ya go
http://guardian.911review.org/WTC/south-tower.htm
http://guardian.911review.org/wtc/wtc-demolition.htm
and a boatload of videos that show the demolition squib explosions
preceding the debris of the collapse on both towers.
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/index.htm
The "core" of the buildings did not "freefall"... large sections of
exterior walls peeling off and falling, could however give 'shallow
thinkers' that impression.
mm hmm.. and here's the best grouping of pics I've found on the
Pentagon, where a Boeing 757 _supposedly_ flew into it
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/ImageIndexPentagon.html
...and a few analyses of the Pentagon attack
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/trou_en.htm
http://eric-bart.net/iwpb/
It was ***** poor planing (for risk on a project of that scale) that
was the determining factor in the extent of damage to property
and loss of lives.
The towers were _specifically_ built to withstand the full impact of a
Boeing 707. The 767 is only slightly bigger. Not to mention the
North Tower was hit head-on about 20 minutes before the South Tower,
so all of the fuel from the plane was contained in the building. The
South Tower was hit at a 'glancing' blow, with 80 to 85% of the fuel
ejected out the windows causing that spectacular fireball everyone
caught on video (convenient, huh..), yet the South Tower collapsed
about 20 minutes _before_ the North Tower. The _wrong_ tower
collapsed first, and the videos above show the squib explosions
preceeding the debris of a controlled demolition..
...and here's a buncha vids on WTC 7, the only steel building in
history to "collapse" because of a fire
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/WTC7Fairytale.htm
MÐ
Frequent lock-ups are a symptom of not enough memory in the same
way nosebleeds are a symptom of gunshot wounds to the head..
"'good'?!? ..she can suck a red-giant through a pipette!"
"It's unjustified and illogical to massage data and
direct observation in such a manner as to force
reality to conform to a mathematical premis..
...Einstein's a fuckin' moron"
Whoever has an army has power.. and war decides everything
--Mao Tse-Tung
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| Title: Re: America loves Bush - get over it |
22 Apr 2004 03:09:48 AM |
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"ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com> wrote in message
news:dh6e801bra0t7sfsnmq2o2ko9v3qf3mk97@4ax.com...
: ur_droll, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious
: oxygen, hurled 57 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into
: alt.tasteless.jokes on Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:13:23 +1200 with this
: little gem.. <CPrhc.1267$_s.39926@news.xtra.co.nz>:
:
: >"ÑðS-|-MÐ" <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com> wrote in message
: >news:hpdb80lappgj8v2l99v9ma2gek0kk4dr2m@4ax.com...
: >: Mel, wasting several more cubic feet of our planet's precious oxygen,
: >: hurled 21 lines of bandwidth-murdering idiocy into alt.tasteless.jokes
: >: on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:41:16 +0200 with this little gem..
: >: <bcj980dvj2i9vs2c7dprcp6ifbash2c1ob@4ax.com>:
: >:
: >: >On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:55:19 -0600, "ÑðS-|-MÐ"
<mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSremover.com>
: >: >wrote in message <aqa880pahk5s21f3oihm9fq24vp4btlqa3@4ax.com>:
: >: >>In the long run, America's attack on itself and subsequent attack on
: >: >>Iraq and co. was meant to ultimately take us from being perceived as
: >: >>policing the world to being perceived as defending the world against
: >: >>"known threats". I.E. - we decided to destroy two of the most
: >: >>prominent symbols of capitalism and the most prominent symbol of
: >: >>military power in the world in an effort to get the world's sympathy
: >: >>to transform into the final superpower, the nation to end all wars
and
: >: >>bring about a new world order of peace and economic security. The
: >: >>fact that all we had to do was kill 3,000 New Yorkers to achieve our
: >: >>goal of world domination.. priceless
: >: >
: >: >Bush should mail himself a packet of anthrax.
: >:
: >: the amazing part is how effectively ingrained the lies of 9/11 are
: >: into people's minds. I don't know if VCRs have made it as far as
: >: South Africa yet, but you should rent a good video on the tower
: >: collapses and ask yourself.. why are two of the strongest central
: >: cored buildings in the world falling at the speed of freefall?
: >: Firefighters didn't just hear one explosion.. they heard detonations
: >: throughout the entire collapse of both buildings.
: >
: >
: >You moron.... No explosions (check videos)... the sounds were
: >generated by collapsing structure.
:
: http://911.justiceforwoody.org/videos/docs/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg
:
: >The impact of the planes and resultant explosion did not directly
: >cause the collapse, they did however strip the fire protection from
: >the steel support structure (inappropriate choice of asbestos based
: >fire protection applications, a large portion of which new yorkers
: >were privileged enough to have inhaled) * hope you got yours*
: >which was subsequently heated enough (by the ongoing fire) to fail
: >under the load of the floor levels above... and the ongoing domino
: >effect as each collapse impacted on (and caused the collapse of )
: >the floor below.
:
: i.e. the "truss theory"
:
: ..here ya go
:
: http://guardian.911review.org/WTC/south-tower.htm
:
: http://guardian.911review.org/wtc/wtc-demolition.htm
:
: and a boatload of videos that show the demolition squib explosions
: preceding the debris of the collapse on both towers.
:
: http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/index.htm
:
: >The "core" of the buildings did not "freefall"... large sections of
: >exterior walls peeling off and falling, could however give 'shallow
: >thinkers' that impression.
:
: mm hmm.. and here's the best grouping of pics I've found on the
: Pentagon, where a Boeing 757 _supposedly_ flew into it
:
: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/ImageIndexPentagon.html
:
: ..and a few analyses of the Pentagon attack
:
: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/trou_en.htm
:
: http://eric-bart.net/iwpb/
:
: >It was ***** poor planing (for risk on a project of that scale) that
: >was the determining factor in the extent of damage to property
: >and loss of lives.
:
: The towers were _specifically_ built to withstand the full impact of a
: Boeing 707. The 767 is only slightly bigger. Not to mention the
: North Tower was hit head-on about 20 minutes before the South Tower,
: so all of the fuel from the plane was contained in the building. The
: South Tower was hit at a 'glancing' blow, with 80 to 85% of the fuel
: ejected out the windows causing that spectacular fireball everyone
: caught on video (convenient, huh..), yet the South Tower collapsed
: about 20 minutes _before_ the North Tower. The _wrong_ tower
: collapsed first, and the videos above show the squib explosions
: preceeding the debris of a controlled demolition..
:
: ..and here's a buncha vids on WTC 7, the only steel building in
: history to "collapse" because of a fire
:
: http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/WTC7Fairytale.htm
:
When you get suckered you sure do go all the way... to prove it... LoL
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