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User: "Melchizedek"
Date: 20 Jan 2007 09:30:27 PM
Object: Re: An oldie
"WhewAustralopithicus" <d.stefano@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:45b2db6e$0$5758$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...


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Talking Italian

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and
engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them
ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is

galvanized

when she hears one of the men say the following:

''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I

come

again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee
twice. Then I come once-a-more.''

''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In

this

country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.''

''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend
howa to spella Mississippi.''


That was stupid.


It really was, but I'm trying to get a conversation other than CHESS
going on here.


Alright, how about a nice discussion about what this says:

T01GRyB5b3Ugc3Vjay4=

Does it mean something?
~~~~~~~
abducdlfn?
~~~~~~~
dufmnx? svfmnx!


Nice gibberish. At least what I wrote can be translated into actual
English words, if one recognizes the encoding scheme. What the hell is
that ***** you're spewing -- TardSpeak?

Who's the retard? Mine is easy to figure out.

Fortunately for science, this atheistic attempt to cast doubt on the
Law of Causality fails. Why? Because it confuses causality and
predictability. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle does not
prove that the movement of electrons is uncaused; it only describes
our inability to predict their location and speed at any given time.
The mere fact that we can't predict something doesn't mean that
something has no cause. In fact, quantum theorists acknowledge
that we might not be able to predict the simultaneous speed and
location of electrons because our very attempts at observing them
are the cause of their unpredictable movements! Like a beekeeper
putting his head in a beehive, we must stir them up in order to
observe them. Hence, the disturbance may be a case of the
scientist looking at his own eyelashes in the microscope.
In the end, no atheistic theory adequately refutes either premise
of the Cosmological Argument. The universe had a beginning
and therefore it needs a cause.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004).
I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (87).
Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: An oldie 20 Jan 2007 11:07:04 PM
Melchizedek wrote:

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WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


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WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


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WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:

Talking Italian

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and
engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them
ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is

galvanized

when she hears one of the men say the following:

''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I

come

again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee
twice. Then I come once-a-more.''

''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In

this

country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.''

''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend
howa to spella Mississippi.''


That was stupid.


It really was, but I'm trying to get a conversation other than CHESS
going on here.


Alright, how about a nice discussion about what this says:

T01GRyB5b3Ugc3Vjay4=

Does it mean something?
~~~~~~~
abducdlfn?
~~~~~~~
dufmnx? svfmnx!


Nice gibberish. At least what I wrote can be translated into actual
English words, if one recognizes the encoding scheme. What the hell is
that ***** you're spewing -- TardSpeak?

Who's the retard? Mine is easy to figure out.


Fortunately for science, this atheistic attempt to cast doubt on the
Law of Causality fails. Why? Because it confuses causality and
predictability. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle does not
prove that the movement of electrons is uncaused; it only describes
our inability to predict their location and speed at any given time.
The mere fact that we can't predict something doesn't mean that
something has no cause. In fact, quantum theorists acknowledge
that we might not be able to predict the simultaneous speed and
location of electrons because our very attempts at observing them
are the cause of their unpredictable movements! Like a beekeeper
putting his head in a beehive, we must stir them up in order to
observe them. Hence, the disturbance may be a case of the
scientist looking at his own eyelashes in the microscope.
In the end, no atheistic theory adequately refutes either premise
of the Cosmological Argument. The universe had a beginning
and therefore it needs a cause.

AAAaaaaah so these gods DO exist after all !!!!
[Preface]
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why
I dismiss yours."
[Stephen Roberts]
Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Abalim[Judaic] Abba Amona[Judaic] Abraxis[Judaic]
Adam Beliyya'al'[Judaic] Adam Kadmon[Judaic]
Adonai[Judaic] Adonaiel[Judaic]
Akatriel-Yah[Judaic] Alitha[Judaic]
Alukah(Arpad Yiddish: Estrie)[Judaic] Anafiel[Judaic]
Angels[Judaic] Archons[Judaic] Asherah(Asherah)[Judaic]
Asmodeus(Asmodaios)[Judaic]
Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Baal[Judaic] Baal-Karmelos[Judaic]
Bat Kol[Judaic] Beelzebub(Beelzebul Baalzebub)[Judaic]
Belial(Beliar)[Judaic]iBethel[ Syrian]
Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Cthulhu Chashmal[Judaic]
Chayyot[Judaic Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Dagon[Judaic] Demiurge(Demiourgos Demogorgon)[Judaic]
Demons[Judaic] Devekut[Judaic] Dever[Judaic] Dumiel[Judaic]
Dybbuk[Judaic] Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal, El(El 'Elyon)[Judaic] Elim[Judaic]
Elohim[Judaic] Elom[Judaic Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus,
Golem[Judaic] Ha-Shem[Judaic Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, ] Ibbur
Elim[Judaic]
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Kefitzat ha-Derekh[Judaic]
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Lilith[Judaic]
Lotan[Judaic] Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan Makon[Judaic]
Mammon[Judaic] Mastema[Judaic]
Mazikeen[Judaic] Mazzikin[Judaic]
Memra[Judaic/Aramaic] Metatron[Judaic]
Moloch[Judaic, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Nechushtan[Judaic]Nibhaz[Judaic]
Neptune, Nerthus. Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Obizoth[Judaic]
Ofanim(Ophanim Galgallim)[Judaic]
Oniel Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Padkaras[Judaic]
Piznai[Judaic]
Potah[Judaic]
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Ras Tafari Ragshiel[Judaic]
Rahav[Judaic]
Reshef[Judaic](Plague)
Saturn, Set, Satan[Judaic](
Shabbat Hamalka[Judaic]
Shekhina[Judaic](Shekina Shechina)Judaism
Sophia[Judaic](Hakhma Chochma)
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw,
Tanin'iver[Judaic](Blinddragon)
Tannin[Judaic]
Tarshishim[Judaic]
Terafim(Teraphim)[Judaic]
Tzadikiel[Judaic]
Tzakadhazy[Judaic]
Tzelanit[Judaic]
Tzeruf[Judaic]
Tzohar[Judaic]
Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA.
[Judaic]
Watcher[Judaic]Yhwh[yahweh][Judaic]
Yeddeoni[Judaic]
Yekum[Judaic]Yohani bat Retiviv[Judaic]
Zadkiel[Judaic]I
Zar[Judaic
African gods:
[Note under 'African Gods' the number devoted to 'Supremacy']
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo [Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Table of Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin
[bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]




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User: "Velvet Elvis"

Title: Re: An oldie 20 Jan 2007 10:14:46 PM
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


"WhewAustralopithicus" <d.stefano@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:45b2db6e$0$5758$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message news:A7C98BECBDB52@F8E4F55...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BEC66842@F8E9B49...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
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WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:

Talking Italian

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and
engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them
ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is

galvanized

when she hears one of the men say the following:

''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I

come

again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee
twice. Then I come once-a-more.''

''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In

this

country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.''

''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend
howa to spella Mississippi.''


That was stupid.


It really was, but I'm trying to get a conversation other than CHESS
going on here.


Alright, how about a nice discussion about what this says:

T01GRyB5b3Ugc3Vjay4=

Does it mean something?
~~~~~~~
abducdlfn?
~~~~~~~
dufmnx? svfmnx!


Nice gibberish. At least what I wrote can be translated into actual
English words, if one recognizes the encoding scheme. What the hell is
that ***** you're spewing -- TardSpeak?

Who's the retard? Mine is easy to figure out.


Fortunately for science,

<snip>
You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made you
breakfast the next morning.
--
Consider the ignorance of the average fundamentalist.
Then realize that by definition, fully half of them
must be even dumber than that.
.
User: "WhewAustralopithicus"

Title: Re: An oldie 21 Jan 2007 12:52:44 AM
"Velvet Elvis" <VelvetElvis@BennyHinn.com> wrote in message
news:v3q5r2hkj4e5kvgdh0vct74vsjis47t37j@4ax.com...

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


"WhewAustralopithicus" <d.stefano@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
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"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BECBDB52@F8E4F55...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
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WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BEC120B2@F8ECC14...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:

Talking Italian

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and
engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them
ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is

galvanized

when she hears one of the men say the following:

''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I

come

again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee
twice. Then I come once-a-more.''

''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In

this

country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.''

''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my
friend
howa to spella Mississippi.''


That was stupid.


It really was, but I'm trying to get a conversation other than CHESS
going on here.


Alright, how about a nice discussion about what this says:

T01GRyB5b3Ugc3Vjay4=

Does it mean something?
~~~~~~~
abducdlfn?
~~~~~~~
dufmnx? svfmnx!


Nice gibberish. At least what I wrote can be translated into actual
English words, if one recognizes the encoding scheme. What the hell is
that ***** you're spewing -- TardSpeak?

Who's the retard? Mine is easy to figure out.


Fortunately for science,

<snip>

You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made you
breakfast the next morning.

I would!


--

Consider the ignorance of the average fundamentalist.
Then realize that by definition, fully half of them
must be even dumber than that.

.

User: "Melchizedek"

Title: Re: An oldie 20 Jan 2007 10:22:30 PM
"Velvet Elvis" <VelvetElvis@BennyHinn.com> wrote in message news:v3q5r2hkj4e5kvgdh0vct74vsjis47t37j@4ax.com...

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


"WhewAustralopithicus" <d.stefano@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:45b2db6e$0$5758$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message news:A7C98BECBDB52@F8E4F55...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BEC66842@F8E9B49...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:


"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BEC120B2@F8ECC14...

WhewAustralopithicus felt the need to share this:

Talking Italian

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and
engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them
ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is

galvanized

when she hears one of the men say the following:

''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I

come

again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee
twice. Then I come once-a-more.''

''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In

this

country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.''

''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend
howa to spella Mississippi.''


That was stupid.


It really was, but I'm trying to get a conversation other than CHESS
going on here.


Alright, how about a nice discussion about what this says:

T01GRyB5b3Ugc3Vjay4=

Does it mean something?
~~~~~~~
abducdlfn?
~~~~~~~
dufmnx? svfmnx!


Nice gibberish. At least what I wrote can be translated into actual
English words, if one recognizes the encoding scheme. What the hell is
that ***** you're spewing -- TardSpeak?

Who's the retard? Mine is easy to figure out.


Fortunately for science,

<snip>

You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made you
breakfast the next morning.

Not True!
The Religion of Science
So why don't all scientists just accept this conclusion instead of attempting to avoid the facts and their implications with wild
and implausible explanations? Jastrow's comments are again insightful (remember, Jastrow is an agnostic). Jastrow observes,
Theologians generally are delighted with the proof that the Universe had a beginning, but astronomers are curiously upset. Their
reactions provide an interesting demonstration of the response of the scientific mind-supposedly a very objective mind-when evidence
uncovered by science itself leads to a conflict with the articles of faith in our profession. It turns out that the scientist
behaves the way the rest of us do when our beliefs are in conflict with the evidence. We become irritated, we pretend the conflict
does not exist, or we paper it over with meaningless phrases.?31?
The phrases we have seen used by Atkins and Asimov to explain the beginning of the universe-"mathematical points" and "positive and
negative energy" respectively-certainly seem meaningless to us. Indeed, they explain nothing.
Regarding Einstein's "irritating" feelings about General Relativity and the expanding universe, Jastrow writes: "This is curiously
emotional language for a discussion of some mathematical formulas. I suppose that the idea of a beginning in time annoyed Einstein
because of its theological implications."?32?
Everyone knows that theists have theological beliefs. But what's often overlooked is that atheistic and pantheistic scientists also
have theological beliefs. As noted above, Jastrow calls some of these beliefs "the articles of faith in our profession," and he
asserts that some of these beliefs comprise the "religion in science." He writes:
There is a kind of religion in science . every effect must have its cause; there is no First Cause.. This religious faith of the
scientist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not
valid, and as a product of forces or circumstances we cannot discover. When that happens, the scientist has lost control. If he
really examined the implications, he would be traumatized. As usual when faced with trauma, the mind reacts by ignoring the
implications-in science this is known as "refusing to speculate"-or trivializing the origin of the world by calling it the Big Bang,
as if the Universe were a firecracker.?33?
Traumatized or not, scientists must come to grips with the implications of the Big Bang evidence. They may not like the evidence or
its implications, but that won't change the facts. Since the evidence shows that time, space, and matter were created at the Big
Bang, the most probable scientific conclusion is that the universe was caused by something outside of time, space, and matter (i.e.,
an Eternal Cause). When scientists stop short of that conclusion by papering it over with "meaningless phrases" or by "refusing to
speculate," it seems that they are simply refusing to accept the facts and the most reasonable conclusions that come from them. This
is a matter of the will, not the mind. The evidence is objective; it's the disbelieving scientists who are not.
31 Jastrow, God and the Astronomers, 16 (emphasis ours).
32 Ibid., 28.
33 Ibid., 113-114.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004). I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (88). Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.
.
User: "Velvet Elvis"

Title: Re: An oldie 21 Jan 2007 08:47:35 AM
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:22:30 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


"Velvet Elvis" <VelvetElvis@BennyHinn.com> wrote in message news:v3q5r2hkj4e5kvgdh0vct74vsjis47t37j@4ax.com...

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made you
breakfast the next morning.


Not True!


The Religion of Science
31 Jastrow, God and the Astronomers, 16 (emphasis ours).
32 Ibid., 28.
33 Ibid., 113-114.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004). I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (88). Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.

Do you ever have any original thoughts? Are all your "published works" cut &
paste as well?
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Nothing fails like prayer
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User: "caged"

Title: Re: An oldie 20 Jan 2007 10:21:38 PM
Velvet Elvis felt the need to share this:

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


Fortunately for science,

<snip>

You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made
you breakfast the next morning.

Right now he's scratching his head and wondering what the hell you're
talking about.
.
User: "WhewAustralopithicus"

Title: Re: An oldie 21 Jan 2007 12:53:44 AM
"caged" <hairball@rug.hallway> wrote in message
news:A7C98BED916A2@F8ED680...

Velvet Elvis felt the need to share this:

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:30:27 -0500, "Melchizedek"
<Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com> wrote:


Fortunately for science,

<snip>

You wouldn't know science if it fucked you all night long, and made
you breakfast the next morning.


Right now he's scratching his head and wondering what the hell you're
talking about.

You ignored my little puzzle, so right now I think you're just scratching
your ***** while being naked.
.




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