Re: ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS AND NON BELIEVERS ARE PUT THERE BY GOD FOR US TO LOVE AND CONVERT



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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Frank"
Date: 13 May 2006 09:01:22 PM
Object: Re: ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS AND NON BELIEVERS ARE PUT THERE BY GOD FOR US TO LOVE AND CONVERT
"ªºª rrock" <invalid@address.here> wrote in message
news:9Ft9g.8154$WP5.7334@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...


Actually, Frank makes some unsubstantiated claims below and has
obviously written his own version of the Bible. The only mention
of "Lucifer" in the Bible refers to the morning star Venus and
is a reference to the planet in an allegory since at the time of
the writing, the Roman Sun Worshipers considered Venus a demi-god.
I supply the following reference:
http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Isaiah&chapno=14&startverse=12

Why not use the Bible as reference? Is that against your religion? Check
Isaiah 14:13 for the story of Lucifer.

Keep in mind that as an active Satanist, Frank hopes to proliferate
the confusion between "Lucifer" and "Satan" since it is already a
modern myth of epic proportions. See: "Milton, Paradise Lost".

So now I am the "satanist"? Considering you never use God's holy and
inerrant word, the Bible as reference, and profess to know nothing about
Lucifer becoming Satan, it's you who comes across as a "Satanist". LOL
.

User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=AA=BA=AA_rrock?="

Title: Re: ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS AND NON BELIEVERS ARE PUT THERE BY GOD FORUS TO LOVE AND CONVERT 14 May 2006 09:20:56 AM
Oh Hello Frank. What part of the Bible didn't you find at the link
I provided? Perhaps if you would actually read what somebody has to
say you might not be considered such a troll. See below:
Pastor Frank wrote:

"ªºª rrock" <invalid@address.here> wrote in message
news:9Ft9g.8154$WP5.7334@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...

Actually, Frank makes some unsubstantiated claims below and has
obviously written his own version of the Bible. The only mention
of "Lucifer" in the Bible refers to the morning star Venus and
is a reference to the planet in an allegory since at the time of
the writing, the Roman Sun Worshipers considered Venus a demi-god.
I supply the following reference:
http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Isaiah&chapno=14&startverse=12

Here is the URL again Frank. You use the mouse in your right hand there,
to move the little arrow thing on your screen over the top then click on
the left button. Then you will see how ridiculous your reply was. :)
http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Isaiah&chapno=14&startverse=12

Why not use the Bible as reference? Is that against your religion? Check
Isaiah 14:13 for the story of Lucifer.

This reference by the way is exactly as i stated, an allegory to the star
Venus named Lucifer by the Romans. The word "Lucifer" has an etymology as well.
You will note that "Lu" which in Roman was LVX is the same prefix which we use
today in the words "luminous" and "luminescent" and means "Light". The "cifer"
being the same as Sphr has the meaning "angel". This was the name ascribed by
the Romans for the planet Venus. Keep in mind that just like you, they believed
in animating the inanimate. Apollo would ride his chariot across the sky and
Lucifer would rise in the morning. Sad, but true, but on the other hand, at
least they could point at the sun and say "Look, there it is!"; unlike your
own bicameral problem of believing that all things have some sort of opposite.
Curious, Frank... what is the opposite color of brown? Where is the other
half of the St. Louis arch, and just curious now, but if the dark side of the
moon is the opposite of the light side, then what is the opposite of the whole
moon? All is good Frank. Its written in the Bible and you have even referred
to those passages yourself. Anything beyond that is all confusion that you
have made up out of your perpetual fear of death.
About the context in which the allegory is placed, the 14th Chapter of Isaiah
specifically refers to the King of Babylon. If you read it real careful you will
see that it could just as easily be considered a prophecy for what happened
recently to the King of Babylon as it was back in the day.
You do read English, don't you Frank? I am just checking to make sure that
it is not against your religion. The recent events of finding the King of Babylon
in a hole full of worms was sort of funny, don't you think? You do follow current
events, don't you Frank?

Keep in mind that as an active Satanist, Frank hopes to proliferate
the confusion between "Lucifer" and "Satan" since it is already a
modern myth of epic proportions. See: "Milton, Paradise Lost".


So now I am the "satanist"? Considering you never use God's holy and
inerrant word, the Bible as reference, and profess to know nothing about
Lucifer becoming Satan, it's you who comes across as a "Satanist". LOL

Since i did actually use the bible as the reference here, your lie only points
out more clearly that you are a "contradictory" (in Hebrew that would be Satan)
troll. As i have stated several times within the past week, you are adamant on
convincing people that already know the meaning of the word "Satan" that there
is a persona known as pure "evil" by you and your cult that is powerful and
should be feared. Well, sorry Frank, but, you can fear illusions all day long
but it won't make them any more real than the delusions you had to start with.
And you may as well be quoting something Chinese for as much as you understand
the Bible. So, yes, you are certainly a preacher of Satan the persona, the Devil,
the Evil One, lol, and whatever else you choose to call it such as Lucifer.
About the logic you use in that last paragraph, a Satanist like yourself would
be exactly the sort of person that would know how "Lucifer became Satan". A normal
guy like me that doesn't believe in mythological creatures can tell when somebody
is trying to spread lies and provides the evidence such as i did in this post.
I am pretty certain that we are finished having a conversation, since you apparently
don't read what a person posts. On the other hand i will certainly reply to negate
any sort of lies you have to proliferate, so if you would like to continue to prove
you are a Satanic troll, please by all means continue to provide all the groups to
which you cross-post further demonstrations of your foolishness. I will use this
post as a test for you as well. There are several questions written herein that i
expect to be answered before i will believe that you have any sort of respect for
anyone else posting to UseNet other than yourself.
Good Morning, star! lol
.


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