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Religions > Bible |
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"Pastor Frank" |
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22 Oct 2006 03:40:52 AM |
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Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
" Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:
Are you a contrarian?
You do enjoy your new word, don't you, Frank?
I see you argue the Christian view with some
atheists and now you want to argue the atheists view with me,
and
ex-atheist Christian?
That's right. That's because I'm neither Christian nor atheist.
If you are a theists, then name your religion. No one here is
interested
in what you are NOT. "I'm neither a Christian nor an atheists"
indeed!!!!!
YOU'RE interested, Frank. You're interested in atheists NOT being
Christians.
You aren't making any sense.
English isn't your first language? You were yelling at Midwinter that
no one is "interested in what (he) is NOT." First of all, I'm
interested, and second, the reason you're in alt.atheism is because
you're interested in what we are not, as in, we are NOT christians. I
can't believe I have to spell out what you said for you.
God gave us atheists to love, care for lead
to Christ, so He might "convert and heal them". See below
Oh please. You hate atheists. Your contempt shines through your every
post. You're an authoritarian who can't get fellow christians to kow
tow to your blessed saintliness, so you think if you could convert a
few godless heathens then your status as Jesus Junior would be
recognized. I know you like the "lead to Christ" part," I'm sure that's
as close to a sexual experience as you get fantasizing about it, but
you're only making it worse by trying to convince people you're right
by quoting the very thing that they already think is unfounded
gibberish.
You find what you are looking for. That's the rule. We find plenty of
evidence of our God in the love people have for each other. You don't,
for
you look for hate.
Lots of people love each other without belief in god. The love people
have for each other is not evidence of god, it is evidence of civility.
I don't look for hate, I tend to look for people I love. I've found
lots of them on alt.atheism. These people are great! Sorry about you
being wrong so often.
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Don't YOU have any ideals? If you have, then you have God(s). Most
people's ideals are based on the love of money, and that god (or devil) the
Bible calls Mammon.
Btw. It's atheist doctrine which commands the finding of people who are
"wrong", that's why atheists never look for people who are right.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
23 Oct 2006 12:53:03 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161369694.917382.115830@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161302232.384440.150780@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161176814.521400.64010@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
" Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns985EAB52D1391CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:
Are you a contrarian?
You do enjoy your new word, don't you, Frank?
I see you argue the Christian view with some
atheists and now you want to argue the atheists view with me,
and
ex-atheist Christian?
That's right. That's because I'm neither Christian nor atheist.
If you are a theists, then name your religion. No one here is
interested
in what you are NOT. "I'm neither a Christian nor an atheists"
indeed!!!!!
YOU'RE interested, Frank. You're interested in atheists NOT being
Christians.
You aren't making any sense.
English isn't your first language? You were yelling at Midwinter that
no one is "interested in what (he) is NOT." First of all, I'm
interested, and second, the reason you're in alt.atheism is because
you're interested in what we are not, as in, we are NOT christians. I
can't believe I have to spell out what you said for you.
God gave us atheists to love, care for lead
to Christ, so He might "convert and heal them". See below
Oh please. You hate atheists. Your contempt shines through your every
post. You're an authoritarian who can't get fellow christians to kow
tow to your blessed saintliness, so you think if you could convert a
few godless heathens then your status as Jesus Junior would be
recognized. I know you like the "lead to Christ" part," I'm sure that's
as close to a sexual experience as you get fantasizing about it, but
you're only making it worse by trying to convince people you're right
by quoting the very thing that they already think is unfounded
gibberish.
You find what you are looking for. That's the rule. We find plenty of
evidence of our God in the love people have for each other. You don't,
for
you look for hate.
Lots of people love each other without belief in god. The love people
have for each other is not evidence of god, it is evidence of civility.
I don't look for hate, I tend to look for people I love. I've found
lots of them on alt.atheism. These people are great! Sorry about you
being wrong so often.
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought whatsoever?
Read through the above one more time
and then tell me whether it makes one jot of sense
{Oh .......and without personal insults if you don't mind,
as that rather gives the game away.
bob
Humanist Brit.
Don't YOU have any ideals? If you have, then you have God(s). Most
people's ideals are based on the love of money, and that god (or devil) the
Bible calls Mammon.
Btw. It's atheist doctrine which commands the finding of people who are
"wrong", that's why atheists never look for people who are right.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
23 Oct 2006 07:50:50 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you. Of course you won't understand,
because you neither see nor hear. See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:13:15: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears
are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they
should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand
with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
23 Oct 2006 11:44:32 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you.
HOW????
I've sincerely prayed to God in Jesus' name for Jesus to appear in the
flesh before me in order to prove that he was resurrected. He did
this, if you remember, in front of 500 witnesses - as told in the
bible. So there should be no problem with it if the bible is as true
as you claim it to be. And the bible also says that if you are
sincere, and pray in Jesus' name, you will receive what you pray for.
It doesn't work, Frank.
I'll tell you what. YOU pray for Jesus to appear before me and
"explain it to me". He's omnipresent, he should have no problem
finding me.
I'm waiting Frank.
Uncle Vic
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
24 Oct 2006 04:42:00 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <vicman@inreach.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of
YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is
our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of
Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you.
HOW????
By reading the explanation which Jesus Christ provides, NOT erasing
it!!!!
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
25 Oct 2006 03:23:56 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <vicman@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:1161665072.550134.247490@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:453C5877.57A8E2C3@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of
YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is
our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of
Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you.
HOW????
By reading the explanation which Jesus Christ provides, NOT erasing
it!!!!
Circular argument. You claim what's written in the bible is your
stickboys words, because it says they are. That isn't "christ himself"
explaining anything; it's you spinning around like a top.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
26 Oct 2006 10:44:51 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <vicman@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:1161665072.550134.247490@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:453C5877.57A8E2C3@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of
YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love
is
our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of
Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you.
HOW????
By reading the explanation which Jesus Christ provides, NOT erasing
it!!!!
Circular argument. You claim what's written in the bible is your
stickboys words, because it says they are. That isn't "christ himself"
explaining anything; it's you spinning around like a top.
Can't handle ancient Semitic philosophical symbolism and metaphor? Try
and try again!!!
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
23 Oct 2006 11:43:01 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:453C5877.57A8E2C3@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you. Of course you won't understand,
because you neither see nor hear. See below
Tell me Frank, did Christs's daddy create everything on this planet
also the moon and stars stars, or did he not?
i would be interested in having your opinion.
Bob
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:13:15: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears
are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they
should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand
with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE AUTHENTICITY |
23 Oct 2006 10:41:09 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:453C5877.57A8E2C3@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Like I told you so many times: ...Not "evidence" of any god of YOUR
definition, but our "God is love", meaning that our ideal of love is our
Father which is in heaven, who came in the form of Jesus Christ to
"evidence" His love for us by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary.
Do you write this stuff Frank without using any logical thought
whatsoever?
Let Christ Himself explain it to you.
===>How could an imaginary deity "explain" anything?
Would you want Zeus or Hercules or Ammon or Baal
"explain" things to you? -- L.
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