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"Pastor Frank" |
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06 Sep 2004 08:40:48 PM |
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Re: Bible was written by a pack of liars |
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:37:22 +0100, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
You God haters are embracing the latter.
When are you going to understand that we do not and cannot hate God?
We simply cannot hate something or someone that we do not believe exists.
That makes you agnostic, not atheist.
Why do you equate a lack of belief in something as hate?
Do you hate the Tooth Fairy or do you believe in it?
Atheists flat out reject the existence of God. Call it God hating, or God
rejecting, it's
the same thing, and brings with it eternal removal from the love of God
you so rejected in
this lifetime.
That's an outright lie, for our Christian God is love (1 John 4:8,16)
become fully manifested in Jesus Christ, and there are few atheists who
disbelieve the existence of love or even the supremacy of love in motivating
people to do good, and become happy.
Atheists disbelieve in their own personal strawman, that invisible hairy
old warrior in the sky they call god. LOL
Pastor Frank
"GOD" The Christian meaning of the word according to scripture:
Jesus in Jn:4:24: GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth.
Jesus in John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7: If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that
dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
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| User: "bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: Bible was written by a pack of liars |
07 Sep 2004 01:24:46 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@Christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<Sre%c.4445$RP5.440@fe51.usenetserver.com>...
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:12npj05nbu83q97qgb6vv9bjtd02upnnak@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:37:22 +0100, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
You God haters are embracing the latter.
When are you going to understand that we do not and cannot hate God?
We simply cannot hate something or someone that we do not believe exists.
That makes you agnostic, not atheist.
Why do you equate a lack of belief in something as hate?
Do you hate the Tooth Fairy or do you believe in it?
Atheists flat out reject the existence of God. Call it God hating, or God
rejecting, it's
the same thing, and brings with it eternal removal from the love of God
you so rejected in
this lifetime.
That's an outright lie, for our Christian God is love (1 John 4:8,16)
become fully manifested in Jesus Christ, and there are few atheists who
disbelieve the existence of love or even the supremacy of love in motivating
people to do good, and become happy.
Atheists disbelieve in their own personal strawman, that invisible hairy
old warrior in the sky they call god. LOL
Pastor Frank
Pastor Fake, Satan is the ulitmate ruler of the universe, not god.
Atheists like you are fools, so are god loving nutbars who think "god
is love" in the incarnation of some non existant messiah called jesus
or whatever. Satan can never be beat, not by some fake messiah called
jesus nor by some lame idealistic puny god that foolish monkey dicks
worship in order to feel good about themselves. Why dont you give it
up pastor fake?, satan knows you, and you know you cant win against
the only true ruler of the universe. Satan is Lord pastor fake, always
has, always will, you have no choice but to submit to the will of
satan pastor fake, you have been doing it since you were born, you're
already a minion of satan, nothing can change that fact pastor fake,
LOL.
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| User: "Your Name Here=Harvey" |
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| Title: Re: Bible was written by a pack of liars |
08 Sep 2004 07:00:51 PM |
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In article <Sre%c.4445$RP5.440@fe51.usenetserver.com>,
says...
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:12npj05nbu83q97qgb6vv9bjtd02upnnak@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:37:22 +0100, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
You God haters are embracing the latter.
When are you going to understand that we do not and cannot hate God?
We simply cannot hate something or someone that we do not believe exists.
That makes you agnostic, not atheist.
Why do you equate a lack of belief in something as hate?
Do you hate the Tooth Fairy or do you believe in it?
Atheists flat out reject the existence of God. Call it God hating, or God
rejecting, it's
the same thing, and brings with it eternal removal from the love of God
you so rejected in
this lifetime.
That's an outright lie, for our Christian God is love (1 John 4:8,16)
become fully manifested in Jesus Christ, and there are few atheists who
disbelieve the existence of love or even the supremacy of love in motivating
people to do good, and become happy.
Atheists disbelieve in their own personal strawman, that invisible hairy
old warrior in the sky they call god. LOL
Pastor Frank
"GOD" The Christian meaning of the word according to scripture:
Jesus in Jn:4:24: GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth.
Jesus in John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7: If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that
dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Jesus didn't say those exact words.
Someone wrote those words for him - the writers of the bible, largely
anonymous, motivated by the holy spirit, whom christians place their complete
faith in.
Christians can't think for themselves, because if they did, they would see
that the bible is constructed fiction.
There's only about a thousand million questions that need to be answered,
and christians can't answer them, or don't want to.
And on the other extreme - atheists - demand 100% proof, of which there
cannot be - that is the nature of this reality.
God will not come forward and say 'present' at an atheist bidding.
Christianity do speak for god - unfortunately - and they shouldn't.
Because an all powerful god doesn't need christians or anyone else
speaking for it/she/it/whoever.
Jews, Christians and Muslims can't be right. Not one and not all.
Therefore they all have to be eliminated (as in being untruthful) -
and atheists too.
They do have pieces of the puzzle though, of truth and reality,
but they can't tell which part is right, etc.
Quoting endlessly from the bible, only shows how ignorant you are,
about the real truth of the bible. No one said those words in real life.
It is all constructed, made up, and therefore fiction.
If you believe the bible to be true word for word, then you believe
that the bible is a camera which exactly mirrors what did happen.
And that is simply not true.
Look at the words, look at the sentence construction, look at what point
of view is being used for the narrative, etc.
Dissect the bible in as many ways you can think of, and you will see it
was 'constructed' by man. And is therefore not the word of god.
It is only the word of god, as claimed by christians. There is no validity
for said claim, only that it was 'holy spirit' inspired.
Harvey
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