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"Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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13 Nov 2004 02:38:45 PM |
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Re: Bush Antichrist, Blair False Prophet |
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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AC is used to trick the Jews into letting go of Israel, AC could be a
terrorist pretending to be from the line of david.
Who cares about Israel,
God does
they were forsaken when they murdered Christ...
The Jews (meaning all Jews) did no such thing
<snipped, snips of scripture presented without context with the fact that,
God will save all of Israel Romans 11>
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13 Nov 2004 08:18:28 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Who cares about Israel,
God does
So Glenn, why did you snip, ignore and not bother reading the scriptures,
that I provided PROVING that Israel was forsaken? No, God doesn't care about
Israel, He cares about His new children, His new chosen, the followers and
obedient to Christ.
cont
The Jews (meaning all Jews) did no such thing
Anyone, whether Jew or Gentile that DENIES Christ and the work of the cross
is GUILTY, as if they crucified me themselves.
cont
<snipped, snips of scripture presented without context with the fact that,
God will save all of Israel Romans 11>
Don't you mean you snipped the relevant scriptures, PROVING that you are
WRONG? I shouldn't have to provide context, the scriptures were very clear
in themselves, if you can READ.
Yea, Romans ALSO states that Israel is forsaken..
Rom 11:7-12
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of
slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;)
unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and
a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down
their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid:
but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to
provoke them to jealousy.
Israel has NOT obtained that which is seeketh, God has given then the spirit
of slumber, they do not see and cannot hear, their eyes are darkened and
through the fall of Israel, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
Mark 16:16
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth
not shall be damned.
(KJV)
John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is
condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
(KJV)
John 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth
not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
(KJV)
I Jn 5:10-12
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that
believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record
that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this
life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath
not life.
(KJV)
Isa 49:5 Though Israel be not gathered,
Matt 21:43
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from
you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Luke 20:14-16
14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves,
saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be
ours.
15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What
therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the
vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid.
Matt 27:24-25
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a
tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude,
saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and
on our children.
Amos 8:2-14
2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of
summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of
Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith
the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall
cast them forth with silence.
4 Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor
of the land to fail,
5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn?
and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and
the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
6 That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of
shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?
7 The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will
never forget any of their works.
8 Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that
dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be
cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I
will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the
clear day:
10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs
into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness
upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the
end thereof as a bitter day.
11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a
famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of
hearing the words of the LORD:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to
the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall
not find it.
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for
thirst.
14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan,
liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never
rise up again.
(KJV)
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"u2 fan" <20705@aha.no> wrote in message
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AC is used to trick the Jews into letting go of Israel, AC could be a
terrorist pretending to be from the line of david.
Who cares about Israel,
God does
they were forsaken when they murdered Christ...
The Jews (meaning all Jews) did no such thing
<snipped, snips of scripture presented without context with the fact that,
God will save all of Israel Romans 11>
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13 Nov 2004 09:04:34 PM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Who cares about Israel,
God does
So Glenn, why did you snip, ignore and not bother reading the scriptures,
that I provided PROVING that Israel was forsaken?
Wrong Dore I read them IN CONTEXT with Romans 11 (the whole chapter, not
just the verses you pull from it, which states that God blinded them for a
time, and will save them, in spite of themselves) and others like it
Pulling scriptures out of context with what they say when not pulled out of
context, proves nothing, but your ability to pull scriptures out of context
with the scripture in its entirity, like your father (note not "Father") did
in trying to tempt Jesus
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| User: "Dore" |
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14 Nov 2004 04:43:28 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Wrong Dore I read them IN CONTEXT with Romans 11 (the whole chapter, not
just the verses you pull from it, which states that God blinded them for a
time, and will save them, in spite of themselves) and others like it
Just like anyone else, Glenn, only those who come to believe in me, when I
rise to be revealed, will be saved, and that includes you.
cont
Pulling scriptures out of context with what they say when not pulled out
of
context, proves nothing, but your ability to pull scriptures out of
context
with the scripture in its entirity, like your father (note not "Father")
did
in trying to tempt Jesus
Very funny, since you are noted for constantly taking scriptures out of
context. I provided NUMEROUS scriptures stating clearly that God has
forsaken Israel, and all you got was one verse from Paul's belief. The whole
requirement of salvation is belief in the work of the cross. ANYONE,
especially Israel, who is STILL DENYING IT, who doesn't believe will NOT be
saved. PERIOD. And not only do they have to believe in my first coming, but
they also must believe in me, here in the second coming.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Who cares about Israel,
God does
So Glenn, why did you snip, ignore and not bother reading the
scriptures,
that I provided PROVING that Israel was forsaken?
Wrong Dore I read them IN CONTEXT with Romans 11 (the whole chapter, not
just the verses you pull from it, which states that God blinded them for a
time, and will save them, in spite of themselves) and others like it
Pulling scriptures out of context with what they say when not pulled out
of
context, proves nothing, but your ability to pull scriptures out of
context
with the scripture in its entirity, like your father (note not "Father")
did
in trying to tempt Jesus
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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15 Nov 2004 10:24:53 AM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Wrong Dore I read them IN CONTEXT with Romans 11 (the whole chapter, not
just the verses you pull from it, which states that God blinded them for
a
time, and will save them, in spite of themselves) and others like it
Just like anyone else, Glenn, only those who come to believe in me,
Read John 1, you clearly aren't the Word as you omit the parts which you
find inconvienant; proving yourself a false-Christ, if a Christ at all.
when I rise to be revealed, will be saved, and that includes you.
cont
Pulling scriptures out of context with what they say when not pulled out
of
context, proves nothing, but your ability to pull scriptures out of
context
with the scripture in its entirity, like your father (note not "Father")
did
in trying to tempt Jesus
Very funny,
Very true, but if you find the truth *funny* it is alright with me.
since you are noted for constantly taking scriptures out of
context.
Prove it, please. By bringing up Romans 11 (the whole chapter, including
that which you omit) I have proven my point that you take the scriptures out
of context.
I provided NUMEROUS scriptures stating clearly that God has
forsaken Israel,
But OMIT the texts which point to the FACT that such *forsaken state* is
TEMPORARY and that He will, in the end save ALL of Israel
and all you got was one verse from Paul's belief.
Do you really want to go there ? There are PLENTY of texts, outside of Paul,
which say the SAME thing about Israel ! Want the referances ?
Be warned, as I have proven in the past, I can BACK my claims
The whole requirement of salvation is belief in the work of the cross.
ANYONE,
especially Israel, who is STILL DENYING IT, who doesn't believe will NOT
be
saved. PERIOD.
So somehow they will come to believe it, because God WILL have them saved !
And not only do they have to believe in my first coming, but
they also must believe in me,
Hogwash, they have no need to even know *you* ever existed.
here in the second coming.
--
Dore
People please read, very entertaining...
www.dorewilliamson.com
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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| User: "Dore" |
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15 Nov 2004 05:49:05 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Read John 1, you clearly aren't the Word as you omit the parts which you
find inconvienant; proving yourself a false-Christ, if a Christ at all.
I AM the WORD, Glenn, for I only omit the parts that Paul was incorrect
about. PAUL is NOT GOD, he was just a man, like any other, and sometimes, he
was NOT correct in his beliefs, pure and simple. The WORD, Glenn, is NOT
inclusive of ALL that Paul wrote, but the TRUTHS OF GOD.
cont
But OMIT the texts which point to the FACT that such *forsaken state* is
TEMPORARY and that He will, in the end save ALL of Israel
ONLY when and IF they believe and repent, just like anyone else, for that is
the MAIN requirement for salvation.
cont
Do you really want to go there ? There are PLENTY of texts, outside of
Paul,
which say the SAME thing about Israel ! Want the referances ?
Be warned, as I have proven in the past, I can BACK my claims
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required to be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them. The OT prophecies
concerning Israel, was when Israel was the chosen, but because they
constantly sinned against God and did evil in His sight, they LOST their
inheritance and it was given to the nation bringing forth His fruits. Thus
in order for God to KEEP His promise to Israel, He made the followers of
Christ, the NEW Jews, who are circumcised of the heart, who will live in
the NEW Jerusalem, so in the prophecies concerning His promises to HIS
children, those that believe in me, are pure, holy, righteous and true, are
NOW given the promises of Israel. So when you read those promises in
prophecy, the faithful Christians are ISRAEL.
cont
So somehow they will come to believe it, because God WILL have them saved
!
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now, they will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be redeemed.
cont
Hogwash, they have no need to even know *you* ever existed.
Well, when I RISE to be revealed, you will ALL KNOW ME and be wailing in
sorrowful regret.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Wrong Dore I read them IN CONTEXT with Romans 11 (the whole chapter,
not
just the verses you pull from it, which states that God blinded them
for
a
time, and will save them, in spite of themselves) and others like it
Just like anyone else, Glenn, only those who come to believe in me,
Read John 1, you clearly aren't the Word as you omit the parts which you
find inconvienant; proving yourself a false-Christ, if a Christ at all.
when I rise to be revealed, will be saved, and that includes you.
cont
Pulling scriptures out of context with what they say when not pulled
out
of
context, proves nothing, but your ability to pull scriptures out of
context
with the scripture in its entirity, like your father (note not
"Father")
did
in trying to tempt Jesus
Very funny,
Very true, but if you find the truth *funny* it is alright with me.
since you are noted for constantly taking scriptures out of
context.
Prove it, please. By bringing up Romans 11 (the whole chapter, including
that which you omit) I have proven my point that you take the scriptures
out
of context.
I provided NUMEROUS scriptures stating clearly that God has
forsaken Israel,
But OMIT the texts which point to the FACT that such *forsaken state* is
TEMPORARY and that He will, in the end save ALL of Israel
and all you got was one verse from Paul's belief.
Do you really want to go there ? There are PLENTY of texts, outside of
Paul,
which say the SAME thing about Israel ! Want the referances ?
Be warned, as I have proven in the past, I can BACK my claims
The whole requirement of salvation is belief in the work of the cross.
ANYONE,
especially Israel, who is STILL DENYING IT, who doesn't believe will NOT
be
saved. PERIOD.
So somehow they will come to believe it, because God WILL have them saved
!
And not only do they have to believe in my first coming, but
they also must believe in me,
Hogwash, they have no need to even know *you* ever existed.
here in the second coming.
--
Dore
People please read, very entertaining...
www.dorewilliamson.com
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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16 Nov 2004 06:15:16 PM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Read John 1, you clearly aren't the Word as you omit the parts which you
find inconvienant; proving yourself a false-Christ, if a Christ at all.
I AM the WORD,
Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
You aren't the Word
Neither are you, and unlike you, the prophecies which God had given me, had
never failed.
Glenn, for I only omit the parts that Paul was incorrect
about. PAUL is NOT GOD, he was just a man, like any other, and sometimes,
he
was NOT correct in his beliefs, pure and simple. The WORD, Glenn, is NOT
inclusive of ALL that Paul wrote, but the TRUTHS OF GOD.
cont
But OMIT the texts which point to the FACT that such *forsaken state* is
TEMPORARY and that He will, in the end save ALL of Israel
ONLY when and IF they believe and repent, just like anyone else, for that
is
the MAIN requirement for salvation.
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
cont
Do you really want to go there ? There are PLENTY of texts, outside of
Paul,
which say the SAME thing about Israel ! Want the referances ?
Be warned, as I have proven in the past, I can BACK my claims
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required to be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
The OT prophecies concerning Israel, was when Israel was the chosen, but
because they
constantly sinned against God and did evil in His sight, they LOST their
inheritance and it was given to the nation bringing forth His fruits. Thus
in order for God to KEEP His promise to Israel, He made the followers of
Christ, the NEW Jews, who are circumcised of the heart, who will live in
the NEW Jerusalem, so in the prophecies concerning His promises to HIS
children, those that believe in me, are pure, holy, righteous and true,
are
NOW given the promises of Israel. So when you read those promises in
prophecy, the faithful Christians are ISRAEL.
As you omit the texts which declare that He will never forsake them forever,
all the above is pure falsehood
cont
So somehow they will come to believe it, because God WILL have them saved
!
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now, they
will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be
redeemed.
Nice to hear you guessing at just how He will have it happen (I have done my
share of guessing, myself, 'specially since so many have died without
accepting Him in this life. I too, have guessed that their salvation may
come to pass AFTER spending some time in hell)
All I know, is He has promised (in both testiments, thus not only through
Paul) that Israel will come to full salvation.
It His WILL so it WILL be so, God NEVER fails.
cont
Hogwash, they have no need to even know *you* ever existed.
Well, when I RISE to be revealed, you will ALL KNOW ME and be wailing in
sorrowful regret.
I won't hold my breath
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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16 Nov 2004 09:56:34 PM |
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Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
But you are, as you were, condemned spiritually DEAD. I did not declare your
physical death, I only prayed for it, since your evil penetrating these
newsgroups has been horrendous. I don't always get my prayers answered in
the positive, since I have prayed for the destruction of the earth and all
of it's evil, many times now, since I am so disgusted and frustrated with
it. The Father reminded me that I must wait, so it is with you as well, but
the end remains the same.
cont
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
Of course they are required to repent, ALL mankind is required to do so.
However, because God honors free will and choice, and repented Himself of
even creating man, in the days of Noah, when all were evil, there is NO
assurance that in these end times, Israel will repent and be saved as well,
for although God wills things, man's FREE WILL and CHOICE supercedes His
will, because God will give to man exactly what they choose and desire, and
thus HIS only choice is in their destruction, as it was in the days of Noah
and Lot.
cont
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required to
be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how
many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
I am NOT fearful of anything. The truth is the truth, no matter what man
have said in the past. The truths and fact remains, man MUST believe and
repent of all sins, before they are ever saved, no matter how many ancient
writers willed otherwise for Israel. The truths is what sets men free, not
your interpretations of scripture.
cont
As you omit the texts which declare that He will never forsake them
forever,
all the above is pure falsehood
And YOU omit the scriptures that states that God has already forsaken them
forever, and has given their inheritance to others, because He got weary of
their constant sinning, rebellion and evil against Him, which is clearly
still occurring til this day. YOU can't see REALITY.
cont
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now, they
will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be
redeemed.
Nice to hear you guessing at just how He will have it happen (I have done
my
share of guessing, myself, 'specially since so many have died without
accepting Him in this life. I too, have guessed that their salvation may
come to pass AFTER spending some time in hell)
All I know, is He has promised (in both testiments, thus not only through
Paul) that Israel will come to full salvation.
It His WILL so it WILL be so, God NEVER fails.
I don't guess anymore, Glenn, I don't have to, I have enough knowledge,
wisdom, truths and can see clearly of REALITY to make my judgments and
discernments in righteousness. Unlike you, I have experienced hell and SEEN
the souls dwelling there and KNOW perfectly of their fates, opportunities
and possible resurrection in the millennium. God never fails, however,
Israel through their own FREE WILL and CHOICES may fail, for God doesn't
FORCE Himself or will on anyone. It has to be by CHOICE that man will
repent, walk in His ways and will to be saved. YOU, even after all of these
years, see NO change in your heart, mind, soul and spirit, still living in
lies, darkness, evil, unrighteousness and sins, and your condemnation is
assured, and you pretend to believe in Christ, how much moreso are those who
completely deny these truths?
cont
I won't hold my breath
I am sure you won't have any breath when that day occurs, but will be
destroyed along with the rest of the wicked and hypocrites.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Read John 1, you clearly aren't the Word as you omit the parts which
you
find inconvienant; proving yourself a false-Christ, if a Christ at all.
I AM the WORD,
Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
You aren't the Word
Neither are you, and unlike you, the prophecies which God had given me,
had
never failed.
Glenn, for I only omit the parts that Paul was incorrect
about. PAUL is NOT GOD, he was just a man, like any other, and
sometimes,
he
was NOT correct in his beliefs, pure and simple. The WORD, Glenn, is NOT
inclusive of ALL that Paul wrote, but the TRUTHS OF GOD.
cont
But OMIT the texts which point to the FACT that such *forsaken state*
is
TEMPORARY and that He will, in the end save ALL of Israel
ONLY when and IF they believe and repent, just like anyone else, for
that
is
the MAIN requirement for salvation.
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
cont
Do you really want to go there ? There are PLENTY of texts, outside of
Paul,
which say the SAME thing about Israel ! Want the referances ?
Be warned, as I have proven in the past, I can BACK my claims
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required to
be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how
many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
The OT prophecies concerning Israel, was when Israel was the chosen, but
because they
constantly sinned against God and did evil in His sight, they LOST their
inheritance and it was given to the nation bringing forth His fruits.
Thus
in order for God to KEEP His promise to Israel, He made the followers of
Christ, the NEW Jews, who are circumcised of the heart, who will live
in
the NEW Jerusalem, so in the prophecies concerning His promises to HIS
children, those that believe in me, are pure, holy, righteous and true,
are
NOW given the promises of Israel. So when you read those promises in
prophecy, the faithful Christians are ISRAEL.
As you omit the texts which declare that He will never forsake them
forever,
all the above is pure falsehood
cont
So somehow they will come to believe it, because God WILL have them
saved
!
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now, they
will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be
redeemed.
Nice to hear you guessing at just how He will have it happen (I have done
my
share of guessing, myself, 'specially since so many have died without
accepting Him in this life. I too, have guessed that their salvation may
come to pass AFTER spending some time in hell)
All I know, is He has promised (in both testiments, thus not only through
Paul) that Israel will come to full salvation.
It His WILL so it WILL be so, God NEVER fails.
cont
Hogwash, they have no need to even know *you* ever existed.
Well, when I RISE to be revealed, you will ALL KNOW ME and be wailing in
sorrowful regret.
I won't hold my breath
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
But you are, as you were,
Physically, and spiritually alive.
condemned spiritually DEAD.
Your judgment is meaningless, but God's recent removal of a blood clot,
before the surgeon had a chance to operate (they were in op prep when it was
seen to have vanished), in my wife's heart, demonstrates that you don't know
what you are talking about.
Just like the miracle discovery of a way to operate and save my failing
heart, back when you predicted my death, had saved my life, just in time !
I did not declare your physical death, I only prayed for it,
Dore, you have either deluded yourself, or are now lying, because you
DECLARED to everyone that I would be dead before the New Years (2001) !
Had you merely stated that you were praying for my death, that would have
been different, but you made a firm PROPHECY
.....since your evil penetrating these newsgroups has been horrendous.
Actually, you are threatened by me, because God's use of me in dealing with
you is effective.
I don't always get my prayers answered in the positive, since I have
prayed for the
destruction of the earth and all of it's evil,
Again, these were not mere prayers, you made many FIRM prophecies about
nuks, and world wide destruction, before the turn of the century (20th to
the 21st century), even before the end of 1999
Making up the idea that you *only prayed for these things* doesn't change
the facts, or our memories of them.
many times now, since I am so disgusted and frustrated with
it. The Father reminded me that I must wait, so it is with you as well,
but
the end remains the same.
Totally unchanged by you, as it has next to nothing to do with you.
cont
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will
feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
Of course they are required to repent, ALL mankind is required to do so.
However, because God honors free will and choice, and repented Himself of
even creating man, in the days of Noah, when all were evil, there is NO
assurance that in these end times,
God's assurance is all that is needed, if you lack that, I pity you.
Israel will repent and be saved as well,
for although God wills things, man's FREE WILL and CHOICE supercedes His
will,
Wrong Dore, what makes God *God* is His unfailing WILL and POWER.
Man's will, is incapable of overpowering God's will (period)
You make man into their own God, and you make them more powerful than God
with what you say above.... THAT in itself is blasphemy
because God will give to man exactly what they choose and desire, and
thus HIS only choice is in their destruction, as it was in the days of
Noah
and Lot.
cont
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required to
be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how
many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
I am NOT fearful of anything.
You fear my testimony, it points out your falsehood;
your fear of scripture has you OMITTING the parts which show you up for who,
and what you are, and represent.
The truth is the truth, no matter what man have said in the past.
Nor the claims which you now make !
The truths and fact remains, man MUST believe and
repent of all sins, before they are ever saved, no matter how many ancient
writers willed otherwise for Israel. The truths is what sets men free, not
your interpretations of scripture.
cont
As you omit the texts which declare that He will never forsake them
forever,
all the above is pure falsehood
And YOU omit the scriptures that states that God has already forsaken them
forever,
No Dore, I unlike you, I omit nothing, and that is your problem. *forever*
is a relative statement, as David was promised that a son of his would
forever be on his throne, BUT there was a 400 year GAP between the LAST
Davidionic king, and the birth of Jesus, meaning *forever* ENDED 400 years
before Christ's birth.
IN CONTEXT with the scriptures which declare that God's love for Israel is
unfailing, and that His anger will not last forever, and that He will ALWAYS
bring them back to Him, thus texts which you quote don't mean the kind of
*forever* which you so want them to mean.
It is, and always was God's WILL to SAVE Israel in the END
and has given their inheritance to others, because He got weary of
their constant sinning, rebellion and evil against Him, which is clearly
still occurring til this day. YOU can't see REALITY.
Read Romans 11 (I can give you other texts, Old and New Testiments, if you
are willing to be challenged)
cont
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are
regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now, they
will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be
redeemed.
Nice to hear you guessing at just how He will have it happen (I have done
my
share of guessing, myself, 'specially since so many have died without
accepting Him in this life. I too, have guessed that their salvation may
come to pass AFTER spending some time in hell)
All I know, is He has promised (in both testiments, thus not only through
Paul) that Israel will come to full salvation.
It His WILL so it WILL be so, God NEVER fails.
I don't guess anymore, Glenn, I don't have to, I have enough knowledge,
wisdom, truths and can see clearly of REALITY to make my judgments and
discernments in righteousness....
She makes accusations, and nothing more, because she is not able to judge,
when she attempts to judge, as in sending me to my death (for the "sin" of
showing her up)... SHE FAILS
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Physically, and spiritually alive.
No, Glenn, you are STILL spiritually dead.
cont
Your judgment is meaningless, but God's recent removal of a blood clot,
before the surgeon had a chance to operate (they were in op prep when it
was
seen to have vanished), in my wife's heart, demonstrates that you don't
know
what you are talking about.
Just like the miracle discovery of a way to operate and save my failing
heart, back when you predicted my death, had saved my life, just in time !
The wicked's doctors healed you, Glenn, NOT GOD. If God would have healed
you, you would have never needed a doctor in the first place, for His ways
are miraculously done.
cont
Dore, you have either deluded yourself, or are now lying, because you
DECLARED to everyone that I would be dead before the New Years (2001) !
I NEVER said that.
cont
Had you merely stated that you were praying for my death, that would have
been different, but you made a firm PROPHECY
Yes, because I believed that my prayer would have been answered in your
destruction, for my anger was GREAT against your evil, sins, lies, and
deceit because your darkness was so strong, I thought sure the Father would
honor my request. However, that was not the case and the reason for it, was
that it is NOT yet time for my being revealed and had MY word caused such
miracles and power, the whole world would know who I am and it is NOT time
for that yet, according to the prophecies, so these here and I still has to
suffer you and so your destruction will come with the rest of the wicked in
due time.
cont
Again, these were not mere prayers, you made many FIRM prophecies about
nuks, and world wide destruction, before the turn of the century (20th to
the 21st century), even before the end of 1999
And I explained that numerous times, when will you understand the
explanation? However, world wide destruction and nukes is still in the
future, and as I said in my explanation, that I was merely wrong about the
timeline. People make mistakes, as I explained, even God, when He was sorry
for creating man, and so I misread the visions and placed the timeline
earlier than it will take place. I repented of that, again, numerous times
and have NOT made that mistake again. And since YOU are NO Christian, as I
have also noted because of what you reveal in your fruits, you cannot
forgive the repentant, who have confessed, even me, like it is commanded in
the scriptures. I have stated thousands upon thousands of things and was
wrong about ONE timeline, which you cannot forget, but continue to use it
against me, because YOU ARE EVIL.
cont
Making up the idea that you *only prayed for these things* doesn't change
the facts, or our memories of them.
I am not making anything up. As with everything, I must discuss it or ask
for it, from the Father. Sometimes, my requests are immediately granted and
sometimes they are not, and when they are not, I am given perfect reasons
for it and understand. You like to IGNORE the facts, when it clearly
exonerates me, and keep holding onto the past, thus your past is still being
held and you will not be forgiven your past errors, as well.
cont
Totally unchanged by you, as it has next to nothing to do with you.
Little do you know, it has everything to do with me. Since my return and
birth back into human flesh upon the earth, I have had to begin with a clean
slate, knowing nothing and having to learn everything, overcome and grow to
the highest levels in God. Learning and growing comes with making mistakes,
which provides me the opportunity to live as all men do, and confess and
repent as it is required by all mankind. I have done this, showing that I
LIVE according to the truths, commands, demands and requirements of the
Father. Since the younger days, I have grown, and been educated in the
things of God that you cannot even imagine, and have reached the highest
levels, sitting on the throne with the Father. And since my education is
reaching the highest levels, I am given more authority, power, wisdom and
knowledge to make the choices for the whole world through my spirit with my
conscience efforts, whereas before, the Holy Spirit worked through me,
without my understanding. But NOW, I have grown into fullness, whereas my
choices affect the whole earth and I understand that now, so I am more wise
in them.
cont
God's assurance is all that is needed, if you lack that, I pity you.
But, you don't have God's assurance, Glenn, because ALL things must go
through me first. If I say that Israel will NOT be saved, then it won't be.
If things and times change and Israel comes into repentance, then they will
be considered at that time, but until I see that clearly, NO MAN can take
anything for granted. Just like the men of Ninevah. They were set for
destruction, but because they repented, they were spared. Sometimes, Glenn,
God changes HIS MIND.
cont
Wrong Dore, what makes God *God* is His unfailing WILL and POWER.
I KNOW GOD, and I know that He will ALLOW men to make their own choices. He
sends then signs, warnings, prophets and even miracles for them to be
convicted and repent. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. God's will
isn't always enforced, otherwise, He would have never been sorry that He
created man in the first place. Only those that God has chosen, called and
are faithful are under the full hand of God that His eyes are continually on
to guide them into the paths to have His will done on earth. As God said, it
is His will that none perish, but hell wasn't created for nothing, therefore
because of man's choices, not all are saved and some perish, because GOD
doesn't FORCE Himself on anyone. God's love is revealed in giving you what
you want and seek, as well as the consequences or rewards that come with it.
Lucifer wanted to rule, so God gave him dominion over the earth, as well as
a throne in hell. God gave him what he wanted, however, it isn't usually in
the manner that is expected.
cont
Man's will, is incapable of overpowering God's will (period)
I didn't say that man's will overpowered God's, I said that God ALLOWED men
to have their free will and choice and it SUPERCEDES, because God's allows
it to. THAT is His will to allow it.
cont
You make man into their own God, and you make them more powerful than God
with what you say above.... THAT in itself is blasphemy
They are. Man is his own god, controlling his OWN fate through his own
choices and free will, however, they are NOT more powerful than God. It is
God's power that ALLOWS men to make their choices and receive the
consequences thereof, for God has created the choices and the consequences
of those choices, that being the POWER.
Ps 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
KJV
Isa 41:23
23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are
gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it
together.
KJV
John 10:34-35
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture
cannot be broken;
KJV
cont
You fear my testimony, it points out your falsehood;
your fear of scripture has you OMITTING the parts which show you up for
who,
and what you are, and represent.
HAHAHAHAHAA, I have NO falsehood, and YOU, who are evil and unrighteous,
knowing NOTHING of God, certainly don't have the ability to point anything
out in me. Scripture PROVES ME, because I AM THE WORD and LIVE by it, and I
only omit the errors of those writers who spoke of their own beliefs, ideas
and concepts that are their own and NOT of God. YOUR complete lack of
obedience, commitment and understanding, because the HOLY SPIRIT of truth,
does NOT dwell in you, but a spirit of demons, the mystics of the darkness
is what consumes you. And like any devil, you will use all kinds of lies,
deceit, pretense and distortions of scriptures to come against me.
cont
No Dore, I unlike you, I omit nothing, and that is your problem. *forever*
is a relative statement, as David was promised that a son of his would
forever be on his throne, BUT there was a 400 year GAP between the LAST
Davidionic king, and the birth of Jesus, meaning *forever* ENDED 400 years
before Christ's birth.
HAHAHAHA, Glenn, do you even lie to yourself? And obviously, you cannot
interpret scripture correctly. David was NOT promised that his son would be
forever on his throne, but a SEED of David, meaning a spiritual descendant,
being KING, that being me, the first time as Jesus Christ and NOW, in my
return. I will rise to establish the government of God upon the earth, and
RULE, sitting on the symbolic throne of David, forever and ever.
cont
IN CONTEXT with the scriptures which declare that God's love for Israel is
unfailing, and that His anger will not last forever, and that He will
ALWAYS
bring them back to Him, thus texts which you quote don't mean the kind of
*forever* which you so want them to mean.
It is, and always was God's WILL to SAVE Israel in the END
Argue all you want, and I have provided numerous scriptures PROVING that God
forsook Israel and they will NEVER be gathered. And since they are STILL in
denial, evil, sins, and unrighteousness, the scriptural evidence that I have
provided is a more likely scenario than their repentance, especially, as it
was clear that ONLY a FEW on the straight and narrow road, will be saved
anyway.
Here they are again..
Matt 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the
way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto
life, and few there be that find it.
KJV
Mark 16:16
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth
not shall be damned.
(KJV)
John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is
condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
(KJV)
John 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth
not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
(KJV)
I Jn 5:10-12
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that
believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record
that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this
life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath
not life.
(KJV)
Isa 49:5 Though Israel be not gathered,
Ezek 8:3
3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of
mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and
brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate
that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy,
which provoketh to jealousy.
Matt 21:43
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from
you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that
circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that
of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of
men, but of God
Luke 19:41-44
41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day,
the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine
eyes.
43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast
a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within
thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou
knewest not the time of thy visitation.
Luke 20:14-16
14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves,
saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be
ours.
15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What
therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the
vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid.
Matt 27:24-25
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a
tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude,
saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and
on our children.
John 5:16
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him,
because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
KJV
John 5:18
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had
broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself
equal with God.
KJV
John 7:1
7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in
Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
KJV
Amos 8:2-14
2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of
summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of
Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith
the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall
cast them forth with silence.
4 Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor
of the land to fail,
5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn?
and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and
the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
6 That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of
shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?
7 The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will
never forget any of their works.
8 Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that
dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be
cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I
will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the
clear day:
10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs
into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness
upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the
end thereof as a bitter day.
11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a
famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of
hearing the words of the LORD:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to
the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall
not find it.
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for
thirst.
14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan,
liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never
rise up again.
(KJV)
Rom 11:7-12
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of
slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;)
unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and
a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down
their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid:
but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to
provoke them to jealousy.
Isa 65:12-15
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow
down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I
spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that
wherein I delighted not.
13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be
thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:
14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry
for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the
Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
(KJV)
2 Chr 24:18-20
18 And they left the house of the LORD God of their fathers, and
served groves and idols: and wrath came upon Judah and Jerusalem for this
their trespass.
19 Yet he sent prophets to them, to bring them again unto the LORD;
and they testified against them: but they would not give ear.
20 And the Spirit of God came upon Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the
priest, which stood above the people, and said unto them, Thus saith God,
Why transgress ye the commandments of the LORD, that ye cannot prosper?
because ye have forsaken the LORD, he hath also forsaken you.
(KJV)
Judg 2:11
11 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD,
KJV
Judg 3:7
7 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat
the LORD their God,
KJV
Judg 3:12
12 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD: and
the LORD strengthened Eglon the king of Moab against Israel, because they
had done evil in the sight of the LORD.
KJV
Judg 4:1
4:1 And the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD,
KJV
Judg 6:1
6:1 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD: and the
LORD delivered them into the hand of Midian seven years.
KJV
Judg 10:6-7
6 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD, and
served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of
Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the
gods
of the Philistines, and forsook the LORD, and served not him.
7 And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, and he sold them into
the hands of the Philistines, and into the hands of the children of Ammon.
KJV
Neh 9:24-30
24 So the children went in and possessed the land, and thou subduedst
before them the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, and gavest them
into
their hands, with their kings, and the people of the land, that they might
do
with them as they would.
25 And they took strong cities, and a fat land, and possessed houses full
of all goods, wells digged, vineyards, and oliveyards, and fruit trees in
abundance: so they did eat, and were filled, and became fat, and delighted
themselves in thy great goodness.
26 Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against thee, and cast
thy law behind their backs, and slew thy prophets which testified against
them to turn them to thee, and they wrought great provocations.
27 Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who
vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee,
thou
heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou
gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.
28 But after they had rest, they did evil again before thee: therefore
leftest thou them in the hand of their enemies, so that they had the
dominion over them: yet when they returned, and cried unto thee, thou
heardest them from heaven; and many times didst thou deliver them
according to thy mercies;
29 And testifiedst against them, that thou mightest bring them again unto
thy law: yet they dealt proudly, and hearkened not unto thy commandments,
but sinned against thy judgments, (which if a man do, he shall live in
them;) and withdrew the shoulder, and hardened their neck, and would not
hear.
30 Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testifiedst against them by
thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest
thou them into the hand of the people of the lands.
KJV
Isa 65:12-15
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to
the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye
did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I
delighted not.
13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but
ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be
thirsty:
behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:
14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for
sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord
GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
KJV
Isa 11:10
10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand
for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest
shall be glorious.
(KJV)
Isa 60:2-5
2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross
darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall
be seen upon thee.
3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the
brightness of thy rising.
4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather
themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and
thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall
fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted
unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
(KJV)
Isa 42:6
6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand,
and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light
of the Gentiles;
(KJV)
Isa 61:8-9
8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering;
and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting
covenant with them.
9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their
offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that
they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
(KJV)
Isa 66:19
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that
escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the
bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my
fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the
Gentiles.
(KJV)
Matt 12:20-21
20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not
quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
(KJV)
Isa 59:19
19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the WEST, and his glory from
the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit
of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
KJV
Isa 33:17
17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land
that is very far off.
KJV
Jer 8:8-17
8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo,
certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have
rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
10 Therefore will I give their wives unto others, and their fields to them
that shall inherit them: for every one from the least even unto the greatest
is given to covetousness, from the prophet even unto the priest every one
dealeth falsely.
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly,
saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not
at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among
them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down,
saith the LORD.
13 I will surely consume them, saith the LORD: there shall be no grapes on
the vine, nor figs on the fig tree, and the leaf shall fade; and the things
that I have given them shall pass away from them.
14 Why do we sit still? assemble yourselves, and let us enter into the
defenced cities, and let us be silent there: for the LORD our God hath put
us to silence, and given us water of gall to drink, because we have sinned
against the LORD.
15 We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of health, and
behold trouble!
16 The snorting of his horses was heard from Dan: the whole land trembled at
the sound of the neighing of his strong ones; for they are come, and have
devoured the land, and all that is in it; the city, and those that dwell
therein.
17 For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not
be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD.
KJV
cont
She makes accusations, and nothing more, because she is not able to judge,
when she attempts to judge, as in sending me to my death (for the "sin" of
showing her up)... SHE FAILS
When you are screaming in hell, Glenn, see if my will has failed then....
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
But you are, as you were,
Physically, and spiritually alive.
condemned spiritually DEAD.
Your judgment is meaningless, but God's recent removal of a blood clot,
before the surgeon had a chance to operate (they were in op prep when it
was
seen to have vanished), in my wife's heart, demonstrates that you don't
know
what you are talking about.
Just like the miracle discovery of a way to operate and save my failing
heart, back when you predicted my death, had saved my life, just in time !
I did not declare your physical death, I only prayed for it,
Dore, you have either deluded yourself, or are now lying, because you
DECLARED to everyone that I would be dead before the New Years (2001) !
Had you merely stated that you were praying for my death, that would have
been different, but you made a firm PROPHECY
.....since your evil penetrating these newsgroups has been horrendous.
Actually, you are threatened by me, because God's use of me in dealing
with
you is effective.
I don't always get my prayers answered in the positive, since I have
prayed for the
destruction of the earth and all of it's evil,
Again, these were not mere prayers, you made many FIRM prophecies about
nuks, and world wide destruction, before the turn of the century (20th to
the 21st century), even before the end of 1999
Making up the idea that you *only prayed for these things* doesn't change
the facts, or our memories of them.
many times now, since I am so disgusted and frustrated with
it. The Father reminded me that I must wait, so it is with you as well,
but
the end remains the same.
Totally unchanged by you, as it has next to nothing to do with you.
cont
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required
to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they
will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will
feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
Of course they are required to repent, ALL mankind is required to do so.
However, because God honors free will and choice, and repented Himself
of
even creating man, in the days of Noah, when all were evil, there is NO
assurance that in these end times,
God's assurance is all that is needed, if you lack that, I pity you.
Israel will repent and be saved as well,
for although God wills things, man's FREE WILL and CHOICE supercedes His
will,
Wrong Dore, what makes God *God* is His unfailing WILL and POWER.
Man's will, is incapable of overpowering God's will (period)
You make man into their own God, and you make them more powerful than God
with what you say above.... THAT in itself is blasphemy
because God will give to man exactly what they choose and desire, and
thus HIS only choice is in their destruction, as it was in the days of
Noah
and Lot.
cont
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required
to
be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how
many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
I am NOT fearful of anything.
You fear my testimony, it points out your falsehood;
your fear of scripture has you OMITTING the parts which show you up for
who,
and what you are, and represent.
The truth is the truth, no matter what man have said in the past.
Nor the claims which you now make !
The truths and fact remains, man MUST believe and
repent of all sins, before they are ever saved, no matter how many
ancient
writers willed otherwise for Israel. The truths is what sets men free,
not
your interpretations of scripture.
cont
As you omit the texts which declare that He will never forsake them
forever,
all the above is pure falsehood
And YOU omit the scriptures that states that God has already forsaken
them
forever,
No Dore, I unlike you, I omit nothing, and that is your problem. *forever*
is a relative statement, as David was promised that a son of his would
forever be on his throne, BUT there was a 400 year GAP between the LAST
Davidionic king, and the birth of Jesus, meaning *forever* ENDED 400 years
before Christ's birth.
IN CONTEXT with the scriptures which declare that God's love for Israel is
unfailing, and that His anger will not last forever, and that He will
ALWAYS
bring them back to Him, thus texts which you quote don't mean the kind of
*forever* which you so want them to mean.
It is, and always was God's WILL to SAVE Israel in the END
and has given their inheritance to others, because He got weary of
their constant sinning, rebellion and evil against Him, which is clearly
still occurring til this day. YOU can't see REALITY.
Read Romans 11 (I can give you other texts, Old and New Testiments, if you
are willing to be challenged)
cont
Perhaps after they spend their justification in hell and are
regenerated
back into human flesh during the millennium, for as of right now,
they
will
NOT be saved, only those prepared for this day of judgment will be
redeemed.
Nice to hear you guessing at just how He will have it happen (I have
done
my
share of guessing, myself, 'specially since so many have died without
accepting Him in this life. I too, have guessed that their salvation
may
come to pass AFTER spending some time in hell)
All I know, is He has promised (in both testiments, thus not only
through
Paul) that Israel will come to full salvation.
It His WILL so it WILL be so, God NEVER fails.
I don't guess anymore, Glenn, I don't have to, I have enough knowledge,
wisdom, truths and can see clearly of REALITY to make my judgments and
discernments in righteousness....
She makes accusations, and nothing more, because she is not able to judge,
when she attempts to judge, as in sending me to my death (for the "sin" of
showing her up)... SHE FAILS
<snipped DELUSION>
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Physically, and spiritually alive.
No, Glenn, you are STILL spiritually dead.
You predicted my physical death, Dore, so your claim holds no weight.
cont
Your judgment is meaningless, but God's recent removal of a blood clot,
before the surgeon had a chance to operate (they were in op prep when it
was
seen to have vanished), in my wife's heart, demonstrates that you don't
know
what you are talking about.
Just like the miracle discovery of a way to operate and save my failing
heart, back when you predicted my death, had saved my life, just in time
!
The wicked's doctors healed you, Glenn, NOT GOD.
Without God they can do nothing. Don't tell me that their healing powers are
greater than God.
If God would have healed you, you would have never needed a doctor in the
first place,
John 17, Christ works through those He indwells, and also via His gifts
given to us.
for His ways are miraculously done.
Less than ten years before my operation, such an operation did not exist,
and only months before my operation, it was approved.
God had given me a miracle, too bad you are too spiritually blind to see it.
cont
Dore, you have either deluded yourself, or are now lying, because you
DECLARED to everyone that I would be dead before the New Years (2001) !
I NEVER said that.
You DID
(Your turn)
cont
Had you merely stated that you were praying for my death, that would have
been different, but you made a firm PROPHECY
Yes, because I believed that my prayer would have been answered in your
destruction, for my anger was GREAT against your evil, sins, lies, and
deceit because your darkness was so strong, I thought sure the Father
would
honor my request.
So now you admit it, you did just as I declared.
However, that was not the case and the reason for it, was
that it is NOT yet time for my being revealed and had MY word caused such
miracles and power, the whole world would know who I am and it is NOT time
for that yet, according to the prophecies, so these here and I still has
to
suffer you and so your destruction will come with the rest of the wicked
in
due time.
Weak, Dore, very weak, even ludicrous
You are a False Prophet, you prophesied an event, and it didn't happen.
cont
Again, these were not mere prayers, you made many FIRM prophecies about
nuks, and world wide destruction, before the turn of the century (20th to
the 21st century), even before the end of 1999
And I explained that numerous times, when will you understand the
explanation?
There isn't any way to explain aware False Prophecy, Dore, so of course your
attempts at it failed
You made a prophecy, and it didn't happen, SIMPLE AS THAT
However, world wide destruction and nukes is still in the
future, and as I said in my explanation, that I was merely wrong about the
timeline.
That's all it takes Dore, to be WRONG, the prophecy INCLUDED "the timeline"
People make mistakes, as I explained, even God, when He was sorry
for creating man, and so I misread the visions and placed the timeline
earlier than it will take place. I repented of that, again, numerous times
and have NOT made that mistake again. And since YOU are NO Christian, as I
have also noted because of what you reveal in your fruits, you cannot
forgive the repentant,
Dore, I have nothing to "forgive" you for, you haven't caused me any harm !
who have confessed, even me, like it is commanded in
the scriptures. I have stated thousands upon thousands of things and was
wrong about ONE timeline, which you cannot forget, but continue to use it
against me, because YOU ARE EVIL.
No Dore, because it is true, the Bible teaches us the test of a prophet (if
any of their prophecies fail, they are not a prophet), and you FLUNKED IT
cont
Making up the idea that you *only prayed for these things* doesn't change
the facts, or our memories of them.
I am not making anything up. As with everything, I must discuss it or ask
for it, from the Father. Sometimes, my requests are immediately granted
and
sometimes they are not, and when they are not, I am given perfect reasons
for it and understand. You like to IGNORE the facts, when it clearly
exonerates me, and keep holding onto the past, thus your past is still
being
held and you will not be forgiven your past errors, as well.
Nothing was "IGNORED" its just that your 'facts' didn't pass muster. And
once more, you have done nothing to me, no harm was done, as a matter of
fact I was merely entertained... You haven't done anything which needs
forgiven.
I forgive people easily, and oft forgive the offence as well, as I am far
from perfect (although, I try, as we are so instructed)
cont
Totally unchanged by you, as it has next to nothing to do with you.
Little do you know, it has everything to do with me. Since my return and
birth back into human flesh upon the earth, I have had to begin with a
clean
slate, knowing nothing and having to learn everything, overcome and grow
to
the highest levels in God. Learning and growing comes with making
mistakes,
which provides me the opportunity to live as all men do, and confess and
repent as it is required by all mankind. I have done this, showing that I
LIVE according to the truths, commands, demands and requirements of the
Father. Since the younger days, I have grown, and been educated in the
things of God that you cannot even imagine, and have reached the highest
levels, sitting on the throne with the Father. And since my education is
reaching the highest levels, I am given more authority, power, wisdom and
knowledge to make the choices for the whole world through my spirit with
my
conscience efforts, whereas before, the Holy Spirit worked through me,
without my understanding. But NOW, I have grown into fullness, whereas my
choices affect the whole earth and I understand that now, so I am more
wise
in them.
Vanity of vanity and grasping at the wind
cont
God's assurance is all that is needed, if you lack that, I pity you.
But, you don't have God's assurance,
Proves to me how little you know, thanks
Glenn, because ALL things must go
through me first. If I say that Israel will NOT be saved, then it won't
be.
Yeah, like weather or not I was to see New Years Day 2001,,, LOL Dore, that
is a laugh.
If He passes thing through Dore first, He ignors her opinions and does
whatever He was going to do in the first place :-)
If things and times change and Israel comes into repentance, then they
will
be considered at that time, but until I see that clearly, NO MAN can take
anything for granted. Just like the men of Ninevah. They were set for
destruction, but because they repented, they were spared. Sometimes,
Glenn,
God changes HIS MIND.
But He does not LIE, even after "changing His mind" the destruction of
Ninivah for an example, when Jonah ministered to them, they repented, and
God "changed His mind"....BUT some 200 years LATER God destroyed them.
God promised that Israel will be saved, through His prophets (of the Old
Testiment) which Paul merely echoed, so they WILL be saved
cont
Wrong Dore, what makes God *God* is His unfailing WILL and POWER.
I KNOW GOD, and I know that He will ALLOW men to make their own choices.
He
sends then signs, warnings, prophets and even miracles for them to be
convicted and repent. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. God's
will
isn't always enforced, otherwise, He would have never been sorry that He
created man in the first place.
Find some logic, Dore ! Read the texts again, there was never a conflict of
His will, and His ability to repent, neither one cancels out the other
You have spoken non-sense here.
Only those that God has chosen, called and
are faithful are under the full hand of God that His eyes are continually
on
to guide them into the paths to have His will done on earth. As God said,
it
is His will that none perish, but hell wasn't created for nothing,
No, in deed it wasn't... 1 Cor.3:11-15
therefore because of man's choices, not all are saved and some perish,
because GOD
doesn't FORCE Himself on anyone. God's love is revealed in giving you what
you want and seek, as well as the consequences or rewards that come with
it.
Lucifer wanted to rule, so God gave him dominion over the earth, as well
as
a throne in hell. God gave him what he wanted, however, it isn't usually
in
the manner that is expected.
cont
Man's will, is incapable of overpowering God's will (period)
I didn't say that man's will overpowered God's,
1Tim.2:3-4
I said that God ALLOWED men
to have their free will and choice and it SUPERCEDES, because God's allows
it to. THAT is His will to allow it.
No Dore, His WILL is to have all man saved, and therefore no man has the
power to overcome it, they WILL "come to the the full knowledge of
salvation, and be saved"
cont
You make man into their own God, and you make them more powerful than God
with what you say above.... THAT in itself is blasphemy
They are. Man is his own god, controlling his OWN fate through his own
choices and free will, however, they are NOT more powerful than God. It is
God's power that ALLOWS men to make their choices and receive the
consequences thereof, for God has created the choices and the consequences
of those choices, that being the POWER.
Ps 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
KJV
Isa 41:23
23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye
are
gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it
together.
KJV
John 10:34-35
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are
gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the
scripture
cannot be broken;
KJV
Yes, we ARE His children, agreed, but NOTHING in these texts declared that
we can overcome His WILL
cont
You fear my testimony, it points out your falsehood;
your fear of scripture has you OMITTING the parts which show you up for
who,
and what you are, and represent.
HAHAHAHAHAA, I have NO falsehood,
New Years Day 2001, remember ????? I am HERE, I am very much ALIVE
and YOU, who are evil and unrighteous,
knowing NOTHING of God, certainly don't have the ability to point anything
out in me. Scripture PROVES ME, because I AM THE WORD and LIVE by it, and
I
only omit
THank you
the errors of those writers who spoke of their own beliefs, ideas
and concepts that are their own and NOT of God. YOUR complete lack of
obedience, commitment and understanding, because the HOLY SPIRIT of truth,
does NOT dwell in you, but a spirit of demons, the mystics of the darkness
is what consumes you. And like any devil, you will use all kinds of lies,
deceit, pretense and distortions of scriptures to come against me.
More accusations Dore ??
Rev.12:10-12
For a "returned Christ" you aren't very bright
cont
No Dore, I unlike you, I omit nothing, and that is your problem.
*forever*
is a relative statement, as David was promised that a son of his would
forever be on his throne, BUT there was a 400 year GAP between the LAST
Davidionic king, and the birth of Jesus, meaning *forever* ENDED 400
years
before Christ's birth.
HAHAHAHA, Glenn, do you even lie to yourself?
Look who's talking :-)
And obviously, you cannot
interpret scripture correctly. David was NOT promised that his son would
be
forever on his throne, but a SEED of David,
Would be forever on his throne
Forever has NO GAPS
No Dore, the common misinterpretation that Jesus fulfills this, does not
work, because of the 400 YEAR GAP. Before Jesus came, *forever* ended.
meaning a spiritual descendant,
being KING, that being me, the first time as Jesus Christ and NOW, in my
return. I will rise to establish the government of God upon the earth, and
RULE, sitting on the symbolic throne of David, forever and ever.
See above Dore, Biblically (as in Babylon {the first one} was destroyed
"forever" and yet it is to be here AGAIN in the "last days") *forever* is a
relative statement, and there are yet other examples.
cont
IN CONTEXT with the scriptures which declare that God's love for Israel
is
unfailing, and that His anger will not last forever, and that He will
ALWAYS
bring them back to Him, thus texts which you quote don't mean the kind of
*forever* which you so want them to mean.
It is, and always was God's WILL to SAVE Israel in the END
Argue all you want, and I have provided numerous scriptures PROVING that
God
forsook Israel and they will NEVER be gathered.
Problem Dore, is that IN CONTEXT with the scriptures which declare that
God's love for Israel is unfailing, and that His anger will not last
forever, and that He will ALWAYS
bring them back to Him, thus texts which you quote don't mean the kind of
*forever* which you so want them to mean.
<snipped redundancy>
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Hi Glenn,
(in regard to curses and prophecy's against fellow mankind)
Just goes to show the crappy side of human nature to be angered, and make
threats and so on and so forth. Human being just are too capable of extreme
reactions. And the worse of them come. A practical side of the spiritual is
that it works. If we love one another and respect one another we would have
world peace. If we looked at everyone as being important and not just
another nameless body, we would start to take on the perspective of God
loving all of us and seeking all of us to whole.
So I would just like to say, it is good to hear your testimony of the way
God has preserved your life.
The account in my mind from Jesus was when his disciples saw another healing
the sick and driving out demons in his name, and they said to Jesus that
they tried to hinder him but he would not stop it. Jesus told them, leave
him be, for whoever is for you is not against you.
And again about then asking Jesus if they should call down fire to destroy
those towns which rejected their message, just as Elijah had done so against
the armies. Jesus jumped on them with a firm no! Saying you do not yet know
of what spirit you are of. People should not kinder others, nor attack them
in the physical, nor the spiritual. For if we had such power at our
dispossal, as in time we may as become more like God, then we will not be
given that power until we are able to handle it. The learning to love and to
tolerate differences and so forth are all part of the lessons God will have
us learn. Being a son of God (not the messiah) is something each of us is,
and becomes to a greater degree of our personal revelation on those things.
The trouble is too many think they are at the perfect end of the spectrum
instead of being a student humbly growing along their own path.
We do however have to be careful of making rash judgements and jumping to
conclusions. Calling just about everything evil is from the EVIL of
religious fear and with it bigotries which are not from God. And it would
seem that DORE has tried to embody all of this religious rubbish into her
being, and has succeeded into self delusion. Though she may very well be
falling short and full of it even in herself.
Buddha said take the middle road. And it would seem that the middle road is
to not try to hard and wear yourself out trying to be righteous (which it
says in Ecclessiastis). And to be less than hardened to the true will of
God, which is based on love, acceptance, forgiveness, encouragement,
kindness to one and all. The conscience set on these truths is not giving
false guilt (one extreme) and not being hardened to be less sensative (other
extreme), being in the middle where you are no longer in bondage and are
fine tuning your learning.
Jesus died for ALL MANKIND. That was God's will. And being let into the club
does not give you a ticket to lawlessness. There are limitations between the
extremes, making for the middle path to be every good thing we can do an
experience in our lives.
So while many go like DORE and think their personal revelation of being the
temple of God, filled with the Holy Spirit, is unique for them and therefore
the delude themselves to think that they are Jesus instead of being like
Jesus because of Jesus.
To be like Jesus is to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and is for all
believers. So that we behave like Jesus would have behaved. And our actions
are based on love and compassion, and we heal people with our words and
encourage others. We become an embodyment of someone doing God's will. Which
is the criteria for all to enter the kingdom. The ways of God are to be
always in control. Religion buries the truth amongst dogma, but each person
learns from their own life's experience (word of their testimony) and it is
all in God's plan for us. Each person who is not going out of their way to
do harm, is by just living, doing the ways of God in our interactions with
each other.
Like all knowledge, with the practical aspects of learning and then putting
it into practice, it takes time and we get better at it. If we try to do
something out of our depth we will fail. And as such we might even think
ourselves to be a prophet or a messiah. The balance is being a cog in the
machine, part of the whole, and when one works in unisome with the whole,
one is being holy.
So best not to throw stones, only tell the truth, and let them see the truth
and if they accept it they can be set free. Nice languages, words of
encouragement. May you all grow more into God and become more like God. May
you all know the perfect will of God, and love one another as he loves us.
Such is the perfect will of God, love your enemies. Religion has set people
against each other for too long. It is time we threw out the crap, and let
the light in. God's plan cannot fail. We are part of the plan, we just need
to be willing to think like God, and not like some weirdo judgemental crazy
person. For if you Dore were meant to be what you said, then you would have
power, and thank God you DON'T. And I know the love and compassion of God,
and still I Would say I am not ready for such power to call fire down to
destroy people. For it is not God's will to do so.
Just the presence of God's spiritual anointing is enough to make people fall
over and feel convicted of their wrongs. Such is seen in the Two Witnesses
where those which purpose in their hearts to harm them, fall under the
judgement of the strong anointing in them. The fullness of glory is
described as fire (in Daniel 7), and that which seeks to come into the glory
prescence of God are tormented and smoke rises up, as if they were being
short circuited by having the opposite polarity.
(oh I digress lol, but it's all good)
PEace
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Then the "Word" then can't be trusted, you declared my death, from my
physical heart failing before New Years Day of 2001, I am still here.
But you are, as you were,
Physically, and spiritually alive.
condemned spiritually DEAD.
Your judgment is meaningless, but God's recent removal of a blood clot,
before the surgeon had a chance to operate (they were in op prep when it
was
seen to have vanished), in my wife's heart, demonstrates that you don't
know
what you are talking about.
Just like the miracle discovery of a way to operate and save my failing
heart, back when you predicted my death, had saved my life, just in time !
I did not declare your physical death, I only prayed for it,
Dore, you have either deluded yourself, or are now lying, because you
DECLARED to everyone that I would be dead before the New Years (2001) !
Had you merely stated that you were praying for my death, that would have
been different, but you made a firm PROPHECY
.....since your evil penetrating these newsgroups has been horrendous.
Actually, you are threatened by me, because God's use of me in dealing
with
you is effective.
I don't always get my prayers answered in the positive, since I have
prayed for the
destruction of the earth and all of it's evil,
Again, these were not mere prayers, you made many FIRM prophecies about
nuks, and world wide destruction, before the turn of the century (20th to
the 21st century), even before the end of 1999
Making up the idea that you *only prayed for these things* doesn't change
the facts, or our memories of them.
many times now, since I am so disgusted and frustrated with
it. The Father reminded me that I must wait, so it is with you as well,
but
the end remains the same.
Totally unchanged by you, as it has next to nothing to do with you.
cont
Read again Romans 11, God will save them, thus "if" they are required
to
repent, God will cause them to do so. The text doesn't say that they
will
have to though (although, I am sure, given the forgiveness, they will
feel
regret for their sins, and repent of the same)
Of course they are required to repent, ALL mankind is required to do so.
However, because God honors free will and choice, and repented Himself
of
even creating man, in the days of Noah, when all were evil, there is NO
assurance that in these end times,
God's assurance is all that is needed, if you lack that, I pity you.
Israel will repent and be saved as well,
for although God wills things, man's FREE WILL and CHOICE supercedes His
will,
Wrong Dore, what makes God *God* is His unfailing WILL and POWER.
Man's will, is incapable of overpowering God's will (period)
You make man into their own God, and you make them more powerful than God
with what you say above.... THAT in itself is blasphemy
because God will give to man exactly what they choose and desire, and
thus HIS only choice is in their destruction, as it was in the days of
Noah
and Lot.
cont
But obviously, you don't KNOW the truths of God and what is required
to
be
redeemed, no do you understand the history of God with Israel and how
many
times Israel forsook God and how angry He got with them.
Fearful of the scriptural references Dory ?
I am NOT fearful of anything.
You fear my testimony, it points out your falsehood;
your fear of scripture has you OMITTING | | | | | | | | | |
