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"Pastor Frank" |
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24 Jan 2005 07:59:32 AM |
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Re: Bush still condones torture! |
"Pete Hwr" <commonsensenow@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C4SdnepY_P7eVG7cRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
SO Bush condones torture? That's fine with me. I don't expect Bush to
act
like Jesus. Bush is an earthly ruler. He can turn the other cheek in his
personal life, but as an earthly ruler he should protect his nation
zealously. If we have to torture a thousand Muslim terrorists inorder to
prevent just one attack like 9/11, then we will have saved 3 thousand
people. That makes it morally justified.
vty
Peter
Are you willing to do the same to Jewish terrorists who have been
dispossessing and killing Millions of native inhabitants of the Zionist
region for over 3K years? Or what about Americans who decimated the native
population of America by declaring them "varmint" to be exterminated at
will, the government paying bounty for each scalp of native men women and
children? Or then again, what about abortion doctors who murdered millions
of unborn humans? Should they all be tortured too, "saving thousands of
innocent lives"?
You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others, especially
the least of them. I don't think anyone deserves to be "tortured".
Pastor Frank
JUDGMENT
Jesus in Mt:18:7: Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must
needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence
cometh!
Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Jesus in Mt:23:12: And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Jesus in Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be
also.
Jesus in Mt:12:34-37: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I
say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give
account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be
justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Rv:13:10: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he
that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Abiding is the
patience and the faith of the saints to that day.
2 Thess. 1:6: "It is righteous on God's part to repay tribulation to
those who make tribulation for you [his servants]."
Jesus in Mt12:36-37: But I say unto you, That every idle word that men
shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by
thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Jesus in Jn:8:15: Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Jesus in Lk:6:37: Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not,
and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
1Cor:4:3: But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged
by you, or by any man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
1Cor:4:4: For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified:
but He that judgeth me is my Father which is in Heaven.
Ephesians 2:8-9: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not
of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should
boast.
Jms:2:24: Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by
faith only.
Rom. 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is
eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Bush still condones torture! |
28 Jan 2005 11:03:20 PM |
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in article 1106602636.6b45ce03dbe5b0a362dc2ff6494b322d@teranews, Pastor
Frank at wrote on 1/24/05 8:59 AM:
"Pete Hwr" <commonsensenow@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C4SdnepY_P7eVG7cRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
SO Bush condones torture? That's fine with me. I don't expect Bush to
act
like Jesus. Bush is an earthly ruler. He can turn the other cheek in his
personal life, but as an earthly ruler he should protect his nation
zealously. If we have to torture a thousand Muslim terrorists inorder to
prevent just one attack like 9/11, then we will have saved 3 thousand
people. That makes it morally justified.
vty
Peter
Are you willing to do the same to Jewish terrorists who have been
dispossessing and killing Millions of native inhabitants of the Zionist
region for over 3K years? Or what about Americans who decimated the native
population of America by declaring them "varmint" to be exterminated at
will, the government paying bounty for each scalp of native men women and
children? Or then again, what about abortion doctors who murdered millions
of unborn humans? Should they all be tortured too, "saving thousands of
innocent lives"?
You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others, especially
the least of them. I don't think anyone deserves to be "tortured".
Pastor Frank
Spoken like someone who in the next life expects lots of reward for
himself, and lots of torture for everyone else.
Paul
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