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Date: 24 Apr 2005 07:23:31 PM
Object: Re: Challenge to those defending Gastrich:
David Jason is not perfect. But honestly he may not have a Dr. or a
Masters. But no doubt he's a bright man, and he should have a BA.
If you think Jason is not who he says he is, can you provide me some
have proof of his lies? Send me audio and video tapes of hie public
lies, or send me printed documentation of his lies. Otherwise I think
Jason isa victim.
John
David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich wrote:

Gastrich's only defense is based on repeating again and
again the same old disinformation. An example below is
when called out for being a pathological liar he comes
out with statements such as:

"Nobody could even try and argue why I was a liar, yet
they kept calling me one."

QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004 http://tinyurl.com/ce6dj

I've learned several things in my return. One is that many
people will accuse me of things and have absolutely
nothing to back them up with. The circular "liar" posts
people from a few days ago show this. Nobody could
even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept calling
me one. Eventually, someone said that I was a liar
because I was a Christian and all Christians are liars. This
pretty much summed it up.

In short, I'm happy to see that absolutely nobody has
anything of substance against me that I need to clarify.
You, on the same hand, have nothing of substance, too.
However, I think you are assuming a few things.

END QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004

He makes these statements despite the evidence piling up
around him. He conveniently kill files all critics and voices
of reason. Why does Jason Gastrich persist in this delusion
behavior?

So lets just humor Gastrich for a bit here, is there any
evidence that he lies?

In fact there are quite a few well documented cases of this
that have occurred in usenet over the last two years.

He has been dishonest about his Th.D. and uses the prefix
"Dr." in a way that would suggest he earned the degree. If
you want more information here is one of many links that
can be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/62heb). Notice
he was not only dishonest about his degree but he created
an alumni page of a university to give the impression he was
a distinguished alumni despite his name not appearing on
the real alumni page.

He forged an e-mail from some called Farrell Till and wrote
in that e-mail that he had "gay urges". This was specifically
designed to embarrass Till and was clearly fraudulent. If you
want more information here is one of many links that can be
found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/5vf4k). Gastrich's
version of events is that he admitted this fraud and has
apologised. What he fails to mention is that he refused to
admit he had actually done it until he got nailed due to his IP
number being associated with the post. He only admitted he
had done it after being challenged with proof that he could
not deny.

There were some issues with a company called Hot Lava
Software where he broke his agreement with regard to his
advertising subcontract. Once busted on this issue HLS broke
off the contract with Jason since he had acted in bad faith. If
you want more information here is one of many links that can
be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/4seja).

He filed a frivalous lawsuit over an alleged copyright
infringement. This was particularly malicious since he never
even showed up in court to defend himself and was designed
to make Durango Bill hire a lawyer to defend himself. If you
want more information here is one link and many others can
be found on usenet
(http://www.durangobill.com/Jas onLawsuit.html). When
questioned about said lawsuit he claimed he filed for $200
damages but in fact the real court documents show it was in
fact $2000. He has claims that he had proof that he filed
for $200 and said he would post the evidence,; nothing
appeared. All he has done is maintain that the court made a
mistake and he has posted their phone number. Hardly proof.
He also withheld the case number thus obfuscating anyone
that wanted to follow up his claim. He only posted it after
someone else had identified the case, pretending he had posted
it voluntarily. As with the Farrell Till apology, too late to be
believable or sincere.

There are more examples but this should be enough to
convince anyone that he should not be trusted. If anyone has
other examples at hand please feel free to add to this list. A few
spring to mind,

1) Hosting the atheist list despite persistent requests to remove it
from his web site.

2) Owning domain names that are strikingly similar to web sites
that disagree with his own philosophy of life. Then using
domain squatting tactics to divert traffic to his own site.

3) Consistently misrepresenting the aims of his ministry. He is
supposedly her to minister to unbelievers but kill files them on a
whim. Actually, not a whim, but when they ask questions rather
than instantly converting based on his testimony.

4) What is the connection between his secular business (NKLV)
and his registered christian charity (JCSM)?
http://tinyurl.com/axor3

5) Others?

David D.

.

User: "lizzard woman"

Title: Re: Challenge to those defending Gastrich: 24 Apr 2005 07:32:27 PM
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114388611.414660.310660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| David Jason is not perfect. But honestly he may not have a Dr. or a
| Masters.
It is no crime not to have a Masters or PhD. Further, not having a
legitimate grad degree does not preclude Gastrich from going out and earning
one or from making a linving and supporting you family.
| But no doubt he's a bright man, and he should have a BA.
I would say he has a certain "fire in the belly" entrepreneurship, a very
positive quality, that he has so far channelled into perfidious activites.
| If you think Jason is not who he says he is, can you provide me some
| have proof of his lies? Send me audio and video tapes of hie public
| lies, or send me printed documentation of his lies. Otherwise I think
| Jason isa victim.
Please re-read the remainder of this post. The answer is there, I promise
you.
sharon
|
| David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich wrote:
| > Gastrich's only defense is based on repeating again and
| > again the same old disinformation. An example below is
| > when called out for being a pathological liar he comes
| > out with statements such as:
| >
| > "Nobody could even try and argue why I was a liar, yet
| > they kept calling me one."
| >
| > QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004 http://tinyurl.com/ce6dj
| > > I've learned several things in my return. One is that many
| > > people will accuse me of things and have absolutely
| > > nothing to back them up with. The circular "liar" posts
| > > people from a few days ago show this. Nobody could
| > > even try and argue why I was a liar, yet they kept calling
| > > me one. Eventually, someone said that I was a liar
| > > because I was a Christian and all Christians are liars. This
| > > pretty much summed it up.
| > >
| > > In short, I'm happy to see that absolutely nobody has
| > > anything of substance against me that I need to clarify.
| > > You, on the same hand, have nothing of substance, too.
| > > However, I think you are assuming a few things.
| > END QUOTE from Gastrich Dec 2004
| >
| > He makes these statements despite the evidence piling up
| > around him. He conveniently kill files all critics and voices
| > of reason. Why does Jason Gastrich persist in this delusion
| > behavior?
| >
| > So lets just humor Gastrich for a bit here, is there any
| > evidence that he lies?
| >
| > In fact there are quite a few well documented cases of this
| > that have occurred in usenet over the last two years.
| >
| > He has been dishonest about his Th.D. and uses the prefix
| > "Dr." in a way that would suggest he earned the degree. If
| > you want more information here is one of many links that
| > can be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/62heb). Notice
| > he was not only dishonest about his degree but he created
| > an alumni page of a university to give the impression he was
| > a distinguished alumni despite his name not appearing on
| > the real alumni page.
| >
| > He forged an e-mail from some called Farrell Till and wrote
| > in that e-mail that he had "gay urges". This was specifically
| > designed to embarrass Till and was clearly fraudulent. If you
| > want more information here is one of many links that can be
| > found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/5vf4k). Gastrich's
| > version of events is that he admitted this fraud and has
| > apologised. What he fails to mention is that he refused to
| > admit he had actually done it until he got nailed due to his IP
| > number being associated with the post. He only admitted he
| > had done it after being challenged with proof that he could
| > not deny.
| >
| > There were some issues with a company called Hot Lava
| > Software where he broke his agreement with regard to his
| > advertising subcontract. Once busted on this issue HLS broke
| > off the contract with Jason since he had acted in bad faith. If
| > you want more information here is one of many links that can
| > be found on usenet (http://tinyurl.com/4seja).
| >
| > He filed a frivalous lawsuit over an alleged copyright
| > infringement. This was particularly malicious since he never
| > even showed up in court to defend himself and was designed
| > to make Durango Bill hire a lawyer to defend himself. If you
| > want more information here is one link and many others can
| > be found on usenet
| > (http://www.durangobill.com/Jas onLawsuit.html). When
| > questioned about said lawsuit he claimed he filed for $200
| > damages but in fact the real court documents show it was in
| > fact $2000. He has claims that he had proof that he filed
| > for $200 and said he would post the evidence,; nothing
| > appeared. All he has done is maintain that the court made a
| > mistake and he has posted their phone number. Hardly proof.
| > He also withheld the case number thus obfuscating anyone
| > that wanted to follow up his claim. He only posted it after
| > someone else had identified the case, pretending he had posted
| > it voluntarily. As with the Farrell Till apology, too late to be
| > believable or sincere.
| >
| > There are more examples but this should be enough to
| > convince anyone that he should not be trusted. If anyone has
| > other examples at hand please feel free to add to this list. A few
| > spring to mind,
| >
| > 1) Hosting the atheist list despite persistent requests to remove it
| > from his web site.
| >
| > 2) Owning domain names that are strikingly similar to web sites
| > that disagree with his own philosophy of life. Then using
| > domain squatting tactics to divert traffic to his own site.
| >
| > 3) Consistently misrepresenting the aims of his ministry. He is
| > supposedly her to minister to unbelievers but kill files them on a
| > whim. Actually, not a whim, but when they ask questions rather
| > than instantly converting based on his testimony.
| >
| > 4) What is the connection between his secular business (NKLV)
| > and his registered christian charity (JCSM)?
| > http://tinyurl.com/axor3
| >
| > 5) Others?
| >
| > David D.
|
.


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