On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:55:55 GMT, Pastor Dave
<pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:45:46 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

Hi,
I saw that there is a 'Christian Mystic' writing here, which is a term
which I use for my own brand of faith. I thought I would just give my
understand an airing.
The Mystics of Christianity were often regarded as 'heretics' of the
Church because they were a gentle challenge to much of what was
considered secured 'knowledge'

No, they are heretics, period and this heresy was
battled by the Apostles themselves.

LOL! I can certainly see your point. I mean we can't call people
true believers if they work miracles in Jesus' name, speak to angels
or Jesus and the like!
Words like "mystic" and "heretic" need parameters before you can
discuss them. To Jews Christ and His Apostles were considered
heretics. To Christians they were mystics.
One of the definitions of "mystic" would fit hopefully most
Christians, "having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither
apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence."
I think you might have the word "mystic" confused with the word
"occult." Or at least with the common use age for the word, rather
than its actual meaning.
Mystic: 1 a : having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither
apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence <the mystical
food of the sacrament> b : involving or having the nature of an
individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality
Occult: to shut off from view or exposure.
The only freedom tyranny offers is the freedom to submit.