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User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"
Date: 16 Nov 2004 02:31:39 PM
Object: Re: Christian Mystic
"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:30 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

Just FYI, top posting is considered rude.

Depends on who you are, for some of the handicaped, like the blind, and
people like myself, pretty much paralyzed from the neck down, it saves us a
lot of scrolling / rehearing / reading the very same stuff over and over
again.
But I guess its rude to consider people like myself.

It make the post hard to read, after a few responses, since one has
to scroll up and down to figure out who said what,
when.

Only if one suffers from memory disorders

Posting your response below each section of text
you are responding to, is considered proper netiquette.

And VERY RUDE to people like myself
Better that "top" / "bottom" posting, is to do as I am presently doing,
which is to converse to the parts of the post being responded to.
But, as for me, if you are responding to the entire post PLEEEESE....
TOP POST
It is for this reason, doing to others as I would have them do to me, that
I, myself, if responding to the entire post, will continue to be "rude", and
will top post.

Pastor Dave wrote:
The Mystics of Christianity were often regarded as 'heretics' of the
Church because they were a gentle challenge to much of what was
considered secured 'knowledge'


No, they are heretics, period and this heresy was battled by the
Apostles themselves.


Hi Pastor Dave,
do you have any evidence of this?


Do you have any proof of your claim?

Curious, what "claim" ?

I know that the Gnostics provided a
lot of headaches, but I see Mystics as a different group.
Was actually was their 'heresy' in your view and how did they endanger
the church?


1 Timothy 6:20-21
20) O Timothy, guard the Deposit, having turned away
from the profane empty babblings and opposing theories
of the falsely named knowledge,
21) which some asserting have missed the mark
concerning the faith. Grace be with you. Amen.

Nice to know your opinion of what Mystics teach, practice, and etc. but you
really haven't said anything.

There are more, of course. More in Timothy, Jude,
John, etc..
--
Pastor Dave Raymond

Glenn (Christian Mystic)

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99

/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17

.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 17 Nov 2004 08:02:04 AM
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:39 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:


"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9pcfp0lk2vbfun8h8nrgth2flh4j5mjdt4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:30 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

Just FYI, top posting is considered rude.


Depends on who you are, for some of the handicaped, like the blind, and
people like myself, pretty much paralyzed from the neck down, it saves us a
lot of scrolling / rehearing / reading the very same stuff over and over
again.

I feel bad about your disability. However, you are
claiming that all of usenet should change, for you. I
treat the handicapped like everyone else. And if you
are saying that there is something you can't do, then
don't do it. The handicapped play basketball. But
that doesn't mean that misses count as baskets, just
because they're handicapped. They still have to throw
the ball into the basket. And frankly, with this post,
you are demonstrating that you can do it.

But I guess its rude to consider people like myself.

See above.

It make the post hard to read, after a few responses, since one has
to scroll up and down to figure out who said what,
when.


Only if one suffers from memory disorders

That's not true and it is quite rude of you to say
that. Has it ever occurred to you, that people get
involved in more than one thread and that there are
people who are just starting to read the thread? Are
you up on every message and the order of every comment
in every message in every thread? I don't think so.

Posting your response below each section of text
you are responding to, is considered proper netiquette.


And VERY RUDE to people like myself

No, it is you who are rude.

Better that "top" / "bottom" posting, is to do as I am presently doing,
which is to converse to the parts of the post being responded to.

But, as for me, if you are responding to the entire post PLEEEESE....

TOP POST

Why? Then, when someone else responds, they do it
below and then you do it above and then someone else
does it below and then someone else breaks it up,
responding to each section below the text of that
section and then you do it on top and on and on and it
gets very confusing.

It is for this reason, doing to others as I would have them do to me, that
I, myself, if responding to the entire post, will continue to be "rude", and
will top post.

What you mean is, you think you are the center of the
usenet world and everyone should change, to accommodate
you. I won't. If you can't handle the netiquette,
then don't post. With this message, you have proven
that you can. I know that sounds harsh, but that's
life. I cannot jump 30 feet and so, don't enter long
jump contexts. I don't expect them to change the rules
for me.

Pastor Dave wrote:
The Mystics of Christianity were often regarded as 'heretics' of the
Church because they were a gentle challenge to much of what was
considered secured 'knowledge'


No, they are heretics, period and this heresy was battled by the
Apostles themselves.


Hi Pastor Dave,
do you have any evidence of this?


Do you have any proof of your claim?


Curious, what "claim" ?

If you had read the thread, you would know. I guess
you are guilty of the "memory disorders" you talked
about.

I know that the Gnostics provided a
lot of headaches, but I see Mystics as a different group.
Was actually was their 'heresy' in your view and how did they endanger
the church?


1 Timothy 6:20-21
20) O Timothy, guard the Deposit, having turned away
from the profane empty babblings and opposing theories
of the falsely named knowledge,
21) which some asserting have missed the mark
concerning the faith. Grace be with you. Amen.


Nice to know your opinion of what Mystics teach, practice, and etc. but you
really haven't said anything.

Is my name Paul? No, it isn't. Argue with him.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 20 Nov 2004 11:54:40 PM
"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i0mmp019sp6djb3adni4b8dkdsbtcr5qfd@4ax.com...

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:39 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9pcfp0lk2vbfun8h8nrgth2flh4j5mjdt4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:30 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

Just FYI, top posting is considered rude.


Depends on who you are, for some of the handicaped, like the blind, and
people like myself, pretty much paralyzed from the neck down, it saves us
a
lot of scrolling / rehearing / reading the very same stuff over and over
again.


I feel bad about your disability. However, you are
claiming that all of usenet should change, for you. I
treat the handicapped like everyone else. And if you
are saying that there is something you can't do, then
don't do it. The handicapped play basketball. But
that doesn't mean that misses count as baskets, just
because they're handicapped. They still have to throw
the ball into the basket. And frankly, with this post,
you are demonstrating that you can do it.

Gosh, you know if your kind had their way, handicapped parking spaces, and
wheelchair access would still cease to exist, because we can't change the
way things are.

But I guess its rude to consider people like myself.


See above.

Please

It make the post hard to read, after a few responses, since one has
to scroll up and down to figure out who said what,
when.


Only if one suffers from memory disorders


That's not true and it is quite rude of you to say
that. Has it ever occurred to you, that people get
involved in more than one thread and that there are
people who are just starting to read the thread? Are
you up on every message and the order of every comment
in every message in every thread? I don't think so.

Top post, and believe it or not the problem goes away, its when some top
post and others bottom post that causes the confusion
Regardless, of what you may think, I don't have your memory disorder and
have no problem with people top posting

Posting your response below each section of text
you are responding to, is considered proper netiquette.


And VERY RUDE to people like myself


No, it is you who are rude.

No, it is you who are rude.
(your turn)

Better than "top" / "bottom" posting, is to do as I am presently doing,
which is to converse to the parts of the post being responded to.
But, as for me, if you are responding to the entire post PLEEEESE....
TOP POST


Why? Then, when someone else responds, they do it
below and then you do it above and then someone else
does it below and then someone else breaks it up,
responding to each section below the text of that
section and then you do it on top and on and on and it
gets very confusing.

Easily solved, don't bottom post

It is for this reason, doing to others as I would have them do to me, that
I, myself, if responding to the entire post, will continue to be "rude",
and
will top post.


What you mean is, you think you are the center of the
usenet world and everyone should change, to accommodate
you. I won't. If you can't handle the netiquette,
then don't post.

Hey ! How about removing handicapped parking spaces, they have no right to
go shopping !

With this message, you have proven
that you can.

Never said I can't, I said it is hard, and I am not scrolling all the way to
the bottom of the post to read or to post something, which is much harder
than what we are presently doing.

I know that sounds harsh, but that's
life. I cannot jump 30 feet and so, don't enter long
jump contexts. I don't expect them to change the rules
for me.

I guess I could crawl to the store draging myself with my hands instead of
using my electric-wheelchair too
When something needs changed for the better, it needs to be changed simple
as that
<snip>

Do you have any proof of your claim?


Curious, what "claim" ?


If you had read the thread, you would know.

Read the thread, there wasn't any claim

I guess you are guilty of the "memory disorders" you talked
about.

The person you were posting to has the same "memory disorders" he also
didn't realize that there was a claim to defend
<snip>

Nice to know your opinion of what Mystics teach, practice, and etc. but
you
really haven't said anything.


Is my name Paul? No, it isn't. Argue with him.

Now why would I need to argue with a fellow mystic ???
Now as to your understanding of his words, that is yet another matter, such
is why quoting him doesn't mean anything

--
Pastor Dave Raymond

Glenn (Christian Mystic)

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99

/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17

.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 21 Nov 2004 07:36:44 AM
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:54:40 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:


"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i0mmp019sp6djb3adni4b8dkdsbtcr5qfd@4ax.com...

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:39 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9pcfp0lk2vbfun8h8nrgth2flh4j5mjdt4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:30 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

Just FYI, top posting is considered rude.


Depends on who you are, for some of the handicaped, like the blind, and
people like myself, pretty much paralyzed from the neck down, it saves us
a
lot of scrolling / rehearing / reading the very same stuff over and over
again.


I feel bad about your disability. However, you are
claiming that all of usenet should change, for you. I
treat the handicapped like everyone else. And if you
are saying that there is something you can't do, then
don't do it. The handicapped play basketball. But
that doesn't mean that misses count as baskets, just
because they're handicapped. They still have to throw
the ball into the basket. And frankly, with this post,
you are demonstrating that you can do it.


Gosh, you know if your kind had their way, handicapped parking spaces, and
wheelchair access would still cease to exist, because we can't change the
way things are.

I didn't say that. I do however, expect them to drive
by the same rules as others on the road. You advocate
a special set of rules and claim that everyone should
have to avoid them when they drive on the other side of
the road, because they're handicapped and that it
doesn't matter if they cause confusion, accidents and
traffic jams.
The fact is, that unless they can drive by the laws of
the state, they aren't issued a license.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 25 Nov 2004 05:54:26 AM
"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dc61q0tuotd2ca60bbo33nss0e23mjb3f3@4ax.com...

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:54:40 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i0mmp019sp6djb3adni4b8dkdsbtcr5qfd@4ax.com...

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:39 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9pcfp0lk2vbfun8h8nrgth2flh4j5mjdt4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:02:30 +0100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Bob Brewer <Robert@Brewer-net.de>
pontificated:

<snip>

Gosh, you know if your kind had their way, handicapped parking spaces, and
wheelchair access would still cease to exist, because we can't change the
way things are.


I didn't say that. I do however, expect them to drive
by the same rules as others on the road. You advocate
a special set of rules and claim that everyone should
have to avoid them when they drive on the other side of
the road, because they're handicapped and that it
doesn't matter if they cause confusion, accidents and
traffic jams.

My handicapped parking space, when responding to an entire post, is at the
top of the post. There, I am in no-one's way.

The fact is, that unless they can drive by the laws of
the state, they aren't issued a license.

Please, try to take away my "license"

--

Pastor Dave Raymond

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99

/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17

.


User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 21 Nov 2004 07:38:31 AM
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:54:40 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

That's not true and it is quite rude of you to say
that. Has it ever occurred to you, that people get
involved in more than one thread and that there are
people who are just starting to read the thread? Are
you up on every message and the order of every comment
in every message in every thread? I don't think so.


Top post, and believe it or not the problem goes away,

No, it doesn't, because you still don't know which part
of the top post is responding to which paragraph and
still have to scroll up and down to try to fit the
text.
The bottom line is that you once again advocate the
change of usenet, to accommodate you. This after you
have proven that you are indeed capable of posting
using correct netiquette.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Christian Mystic 25 Nov 2004 05:56:10 AM
"Pastor Dave" <pastordave38@nospam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:if61q0tlieqh3hh94jq3ok1n0ra9n3qemq@4ax.com...

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:54:40 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> pontificated:

That's not true and it is quite rude of you to say
that. Has it ever occurred to you, that people get
involved in more than one thread and that there are
people who are just starting to read the thread? Are
you up on every message and the order of every comment
in every message in every thread? I don't think so.


Top post, and believe it or not the problem goes away,


No, it doesn't, because you still don't know which part
of the top post is responding to which paragraph and
still have to scroll up and down to try to fit the
text.

The whole post.

The bottom line is that you once again advocate the
change of usenet, to accommodate you.

I advocate handicapped access

This after you
have proven that you are indeed capable of posting
using correct netiquette.

Please demonstrate.

--

Pastor Dave Raymond

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99

/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17

.





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