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Shabbath 19:2
They may perform on the Sabbath all things that are needful for circumcision:
excision, tearing, sucking [the wound], and putting thereon a bandage and cumin.
If this had not been pounded up on the eve of the Sabbath a man may chew it with
his teeth and then apply it.
The Mishnah
Translated by Herbert Danby
Oxford: Oxford University Press. 1933. pp. 116-117.

Shabbat 133B
II.1.
A. Suck [out the wound]:
B. Said R. Pappa, "A Surgeon who didn't suck out the wound - that is a source of
danger, and we throw him out."
C. So what else is new? Obviously, since we are prepared to desecrate the
Sabbath on that account, it is certainly dangerous not to do it!
D. What might you have supposed? That this blood is stored up. So we are
informed that it is the result of the wound, and in the status of a bandage and
cumin: Just as when one doesn't put on a bandage and cumin, there is danger, so
here, too, if one doesn't do it, there is danger.
The Talmud of Babylonia: An American Translation
Translated by Jacob Neusner
Number 275. Volume II.E: Shabbat Chapters 18-24.
Program in Judaic Studies Brown University
Atlanta: Scholars Press. 1993. p. 45.

[The brackets in the quotes below are in the texts quoted.]
"There are three stages required for the performance of a ritually correct
circumcision in Jewish law: the removal of the foreskin; the tearing of the
underlying membraene so as to expose the glans completely; and the sucking away
of the blood, m'tsitsah." Roger V. Pavey. The Kindest Cut of All. Bognor Regis,
W. Sussex: New Horizon. 1981. pp. 87-88.

"The method to be adopted is laid down thus: 'One excises the foreskin, [that
is] the entire skin covering the glans, so that the corona is laid bare.
Afterwards, one tears with the finger-nail the soft membrane underneath the
skin, turning it to the sides until the flesh of the glans appears. Thereafter,
one sucks the membrane until the blood is extracted from the [more] remote
places, so that no danger [to the infant] may ensue; and any circumciser who
does not carry out the sucking procedure is to be removed [from his office].' .
. . The operation itself, then, consists of three distinct acts: the excision of
the prepuce; the laceration of the mucous membrane covering the glans; and the
sucking of the blood from the interior of the wound." Immanuel Jakobovits.
Jewish Medical Ethics: A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish
Religious Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice. New York: Bloch Publishing
Company. 1959. pp. 193-194.

"The baby cried, blood flowed on to his penis and - as the rabbi had predicted -
Graham [the godfather] did not faint. The rabbi then bent over the baby and
sucked the wound. I know this sounds awful, but it is part of the Jewish
tradition. It's supposed to help the healing." Jack Shamash. "My Son on the
Cutting Edge." Independent (London), no. 3,797 (Thursday, December 17, 1998): p.
R8.

"And what of the practice of sucking the bleeding penis? While condemning the
procedure, some physicians contend that it was used to stop bleeding.47 Not only
is there little evidence for this theory, but it was also a largely ineffective
method. Furthermore, even in antiquity, surgeons had better methods to stop
bleeding, such as pressure, instruments, and medication.48 According to Dr. H.
Speert (1953), Maimonides 'staunchly supported this procedure [sucking the
bleeding penis] as a prophylactic measure against inflammation.'"49 Edward
Wallerstein. Circumcision: An American Health Fallacy. New York: Springer
Publishing Company. 1980. p. 160.

"mezizah -- Hebrew term for the third step in the Jewish circumcision ritual, in
which the mohel applies his mouth to the freshly circumcised infant's penis and
sucks up the first drops of blood. In more recent times this procedure has been
carried out via a tube, as infections, venereal disease, and tuberculosis,
sometimes resulting in the death of the infant, have occurred due to
contamination of the wound. Most Jewish circumcisors today have eliminated this
step from the circumcision ritual. Critics have attributed sadistic and
homosexual implications to this practice, while defenders claim that this was
simply all that was known during ancient times to stop the bleeding." Rosemary
Romberg. Circumcision: The Painful Dilemma. South Hadley, Massachusetts: Bergin
& Garvey, Publishers, Inc. 1985. p. 395.

"The traditional practice of metzitzah b'peh, which has its roots in the
earliest history of the Jewish people and has survived unchanged to the present
time, should be viewed with great respect. It is spoken of very positively in
the Jewish literature on circumcision both as an essential part of the ritual
and as a health measure which prevents infection and promotes healing." Henry C.
Romberg, M.D. Bris Milah: A book about the Jewish ritual of circumcision.
Jerusalem/New York: Feldheim Publishers. 1982. pp. 57-58.

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More on Jewry's perverse practice of sucking the wound:

http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=645502261
Subject: The Criminal Nature of Circumcision
Date: 07/12/2000
Author: Michael <Michael@universalway.org>

[...]

Circumcision is extremely painful and traumatic for a baby. In the male version,
the baby is placed spread-eagle on his back on a board and his arms and legs are
strapped down so that he can't move. His genitals are scrubbed and covered with
antiseptic. His foreskin is torn from the glans and slit lengthwise so that the
circumcision instrument can be inserted. Then his foreskin is cut off, usually
without anesthetic.

While this may appear to be an odd thing to do to a baby boy, the ancient
orthodox religious ritual is more bizarre. According to "The Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia"; "The circumcision rite consists of the following: . . .3.
metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the
mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or other
modern methods in more recent times."

[...]

http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/

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http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=658781901
Subject: United Nations: Lieberman a Child Abuser!
Date: 08/16/2000
Author: Mikey <iamone@bellatlantic.net>

[...]

Here is some more information in the matter, particularly pertinent to those who
call themselves Orthodox Jews;

On page 214 of "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia" (Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia, Inc., 1939), the following is found;

"The circumcision rite consists of the following: 1. milah, cutting off the end
of the upper prepuce; 2. periah, baring the glans by tearing or cutting the
tender lower prepuce and pushing it behind the glans; 3. metzitzah, the sucking
of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the mouth, as practiced in
earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or other modern methods in more
recent times."

On page/column 572 in Volume V of "Encyclopedia Judaica" (Keter Publishing
House, 1971), the following is found;

"The next stage is the performance of mezizah ('suction'). This has led to much
controversy in recent years. Throughout the ages this was done by suction by the
mouth in order, according to Maimonides, to remove the blood from the distant
parts of the wound (Maim. Yad, Milah, 2:2). It was the recognized method of
disinfection at the time. A mohel who refrained from performing it was
considered to be endangering the life of the child, and had to be debarred from
practice. Toward the middle of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century
cases of syphilis, tuberculosis, and diphtheria occurring in infants were
ascribed to infection from mohalim using this method of suction. This has been
contested by a few Jewish doctors, and some communities still follow the
original practice. The Paris Consistoire abolished mezizah in 1843."

[...]

The conclusion in the matter is that the "mezizah" is the stage of circumcision
where the mohel places his mouth on the baby's penis and sucks the blood from
the wound. And while many of the sects of Judaism claim to no longer use the
mezizah, it is clear that this stage was performed by all sects for at least a
millennia, and in fact, is still performed in some Orthodox sects (by some
people who condemn homosexuality as a sin punishable by death -
http://www.universalway.org/Foreign/judaism-homo.html#DeadGays ), all of which
identifies the original nature of the ritual upon which the modern operation is
based.

Mohel sucking blood from baby's penis -
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/mohel.htm

Thus, in the same manner that pedophilia is acknowledged as a repulsive act of a
criminal nature by many people and nations, the sucking of the penis of a baby
boy as part of the circumcision rite of Orthodox Jewish Rabbis can even further
establish the innate criminal nature of circumcision, by placing the orthodox
ritual squarely within the realm of sexual child abuse of the same nature as
pedophilia.

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More (January 14, 2001) on the Jewish perversion of "sucking the wound":

http://www.act-now.org/discuss/
This Discussion Group is moderated by a group of Mohel's
associated with ACT to whom you can post questions
you may have about circumcision.
http://www.act-now.org/discuss/_disc1/00000111.htm

What Are The Details Of "Mezizah," The Practice Of Sucking The Blood From The
Circumcision Wound?
From: Pat
Date: 10/19/99
Time: 2:32:54 AM

Comments
On a web page listing "Serious Complications Of Circumcision"
(http://faculty.washington.edu/gcd/DOC/foreskin.html), they mentioned
"Tuberculosis - via Mezizah, the practice of sucking the blood from the
circumcision wound, the mohel gives the disease to the infant."

What, exactly, are the details of this "Mezizah"?

And how prevalent through this obviously unsanitary practice is the spread of
tuberculosis and other diseases and infections?

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http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm

[...]

"As for the bris milah (circumcision), there is no masturbation of the child. In
some Orthodox circles, the mohel, after the cutting, will fill his mouth with
wine, suck on the wound, and then spit out the wine and blood mixture in his
mouth. This is done to stanch the blood flow and disinfect the wound -- not for
sexual reasons. Most mohels no longer do this." Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D. 9
August 2000

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http://www.torahcc.org/mishna/23-1-00/friday.htm
Torah Community Connection
Misha Yomit Program
Week 9 - Friday - 28 Jan. 2000

{...]

SHABBAT: CHAPTER 19: MISHNA 2

One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise, and
tear, and suck, and put on it a bandage and cumin. If he did not grind before
Shabbat, he may chew with his teeth and he may put. If he did not mix wine and
oil before Shabbat, he may put this by itself and this by itself...

Kehati

This mishnah lists the needs of circumcision which may be performed on Shabbat.

One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise -
circumcising and cutting the foreskin, and tear - the thin membrane under the
foreskin, which the mohel tears to reveal the corona, and suck - out a small
quantity of blood to cleanse the wound and put on it a bandage and cumin - a
type of plant, used for medicinal purposes.

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Need I say more?

Tavish

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"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud









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