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User: "Bill M"
Date: 07 Nov 2006 06:25:28 PM
Object: Re: Creation of Man
Pure nonsense for which there is NO EVIDENCE just totally unsubstantiated
OPINION!
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http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-06.htm

"New Testament Revelations", Revelation 6

Creation of Man

I am here to write you on the subject; Who were the angels presumed to
have existed before the creation of man?

As you know, man was created by God from the elements of the universe, and
into man was implanted the soul, or the real or Spiritual man, which
distinguished him from the other creatures of God. And with this soul, God
gave man the possibility of obtaining God's own nature, through the
longings of man's soul for At-onement with Him. Pride and the desire to
master the physical surroundings, which he thought would insure him
immortality, led to the withdrawal of the Divine Love and man's
potentiality for becoming at one with God was lost until I appeared in
Palestine and preached immortality to the Jews.

The descendent of man from his position as the elect of God, to partake of
His nature and essence, was rapid, and in the course of only a few hundred
years, man was not too different in behavior from the beasts of the field,
and in some respects, he was worse. For man, on receiving his human soul
from God, had received with it the understanding that he was a child of
God, though unredeemed, and as a consequence of being a child of God, he
had had implanted into him a consciousness of the laws of conduct which
God had decreed, and thus man knew that he sinned when he broke God's
commandments, and even in his worst state and lowest descent, man always
had a small voice within him, which was never quite completely drowned out
by the excesses and violences which became habitual to his sinful
existence.

The death of the physical body, and the path toward purification which the
soul, on entering the spirit life, has to take, eventually brought to
man's souls, in the spirit world, freedom from the excrescences and
defilements they had accumulated in the earth life, and these purified
souls turned their attention to helping mortals refrain from violations of
the law, and at the same time embued them with a renewed consciousness of
God as their Creator. These purified souls were angels of the Lord,
because they were souls purified of sin, and because they did the bidding
of God in seeking to assist man to overcome the weakness of his flesh, and
turn him to the Father.

When I uncovered immortality in man's soul, whether on earth or in the
spirit world, men could, if they so chose and willed it, become capable of
receiving the Divine Love, through the operation of the Holy Spirit, and
become Divine Angels of the Lord, not merely purified from sin, but filled
with the essence of the Father, to the extent that they become the
possessors of immortality, and acquire consciousness of that reality.

The Divine Angels of God have been seeking to turn man and spirit to God,
not only as son, in the created sense, or servant, but to have man seek
His Love, partake of His nature and immortality, and become His son in the
real and Divine meaning of the term.

After the creation of man, therefore, there were angels in the sense that
I have explained, but the great angel or messenger -- for angel means
Messenger of God -- was and is the Spirit of God, who is obedience to the
physical laws of God, has been doing the will of the Father, working, not
only on the vast infinity of His universe and bringing about those
constant regroupings and changes in His heavens, but working also on man's
intellect, and moral fiber, ever since man was created by the Father.

The Spirit of God is God's great angel or messenger which has been
manifest throughout all eternity. It was this spirit of the Lord which has
been described in Genesis, hovering over the face of the earth, working
on, and developing it in preparation of the day when life and living
beings could exist and survive on it. It was this Spirit of the Lord which
carried out the decrees of God, and set in motion those cosmic forces and
elements that resulted in the new combination known to you as the solar
system, and which at the Lord's bidding, will bring about the destruction
of the same, and cause the emergence of a new order and a new
dispensation. Before the creation of man, God's only active angel was His
Spirit, His active energy whose operations proclaimed His Majesty, from
everlasting to everlasting.

Adam and Eve, or whom they represent, were created through the operations
of the Spirit of God. God's active energy, which brought about the
groupings of those elements employed in fashioning man, as He fashioned
the other living creatures on earth, but, man was not man, until the
purely spiritual -- and by that, I do not mean the spirit body, which is
of sublimated material, but the soul, in the likeness of God -- was
bestowed upon man. The first parents do not know when they became souls,
that is, when God actually implanted souls into them, for there is no way
of telling when they were human in appearance without their souls, for
without their souls, there was no memory of that degree that such a fact
or state could be recollected by them, nor do they know how this
implanting of the soul took place, even though it was done unto their
bodies; and I shall say, now, neither do I know how it is done, for I have
never seen a soul, although I can perceive its presence through my soul
senses of perception; But when it was accomplished, the first parents were
aware that they were human beings, and that they were the creations of the
Father.

II

Man, as he is considered ordinarily, is a creation which passed through
what you would call a long period of development, as have all of God's
creatures during that period of the earth's development, which enabled
living beings to come into existence and survive.

Man's nature is therefore both animal, or, material, in accordance with
the conditions of his physical being, and spiritual, at the same time, in
accordance with the soul qualities and attributes given to him at the time
God bestowed a soul upon him. In short, man's nature is dual, and thus we
have man with animal passions and feelings and interrelated with these are
those emotions and feelings which belong to his spiritual nature as a
result of having received a soul. The Bible's reference to the creation of
man, refers to the creation of man in the image of God, or to the time,
when God, the Great Soul, conferred upon man a soul, and made him the
greatest of His creations.

In other words, man possesses a double set of emotions, and the activity
or dominance of the animal feelings in man sets in motion those thoughts
and actions related to his material or animal existence, and this is not
of harmony with the laws of God, but it is only when these thoughts and
resultant actions are in violation to the law of God that they are sinful
and cause unhappiness. The influence of these sinful emotions and thoughts
and actions upon the soul is such that the spiritual emotions and
aspirations of man becomes dormant, and as though not existing, and the
soul itself is incrusted with evil. Man knows when his physical passions
and resulting actions violates God's laws, and he must therefore exercise
his will to prevent such violations and allow his feelings to be exercised
for the purpose for which they were given him and also to permit the
development of his spiritual nature and with it the knowledge of his soul
and the relationship which it has with God, it's Creator.

Through prayer, thoughts and soul longings, the spiritual nature in man
can be developed so as to dominate the personality, and he will act in
accord with the feelings and emotions of his soul; if, however, his animal
emotions are allowed to dominate the spiritual emotions of man and
transgress the laws of God concerning them, then the soul becomes
incrusted with these baneful excrescences, or, shall I say, the soul is
contaminated by them, and when the mortal dies and the spirit enters the
spirit world, the soul must undergo a period of suffering in which the
contaminating elements acquired in the earth life are eliminated from the
soul and the soul assumes its pristine purity.

This purification of the soul obeys the dictates of God's law of
compensation, for no such soul is permitted a place in God's spiritual
heavens. The Paradise of the Hebrews cannot be reached without such
purification, yet the time consumed, as you would say, in this process of
purification depends upon the soul itself; Upon the awaking which it has
of its condition, and those circumstances in the spirit world, mainly his
own will, as well as the help of others, which will enable him to make the
necessary progress, all souls in the spirit world will be eventually
purified.

This was the condition of man before the bestowal of the gift of the
Divine Love, which I brought to light during the time of my public
ministry in Palestine. For no man, before I came with this gift, could
achieve At-onement with the Heavenly Father with transformation of his
soul into a Divine Soul, through the pouring out of the Divine Love into
his soul through earnest prayer to the Father for this love, the Father's
Essence, and brought into man's soul through the ministration of His Holy
Spirit.

This then briefly, is the evolution of man from the natural being to the
purified soul and, if he so desires it, to the state of the divine angel.
The soul is the seat of the spiritual emotions, comes from God, and has
the potentiality of becoming At-one with God, if it so desires, while the
gift of the Divine Love, obtained through earnest prayer to the Father, is
still available.

The material feelings, also the creation of God, have nothing of the soul
substance and have no permanent existence in the spirit world, but they do
exist in the spirit world for a certain period, for man passes over from
the mortal life, with all his earth desires and feelings; these, and their
perversions, which harm the soul, however, eventually become evanescent in
the course of the spirit life.

Jesus of the Bible
and
Master of the Celestial Heavens




.

User: "Melchizedek"

Title: Re: Creation of Man 07 Nov 2006 07:08:18 PM
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:5P94h.8346$TX.4057@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
Pure nonsense for which there is NO EVIDENCE just totally unsubstantiated
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http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-06.htm

"New Testament Revelations", Revelation 6

Creation of Man

I am here to write you on the subject; Who were the angels presumed to
have existed before the creation of man?

As you know, man was created by God from the elements of the universe, and
into man was implanted the soul, or the real or Spiritual man, which
distinguished him from the other creatures of God. And with this soul, God
gave man the possibility of obtaining God's own nature, through the
longings of man's soul for At-onement with Him. Pride and the desire to
master the physical surroundings, which he thought would insure him
immortality, led to the withdrawal of the Divine Love and man's
potentiality for becoming at one with God was lost until I appeared in
Palestine and preached immortality to the Jews.

The descendent of man from his position as the elect of God, to partake of
His nature and essence, was rapid, and in the course of only a few hundred
years, man was not too different in behavior from the beasts of the field,
and in some respects, he was worse. For man, on receiving his human soul
from God, had received with it the understanding that he was a child of
God, though unredeemed, and as a consequence of being a child of God, he
had had implanted into him a consciousness of the laws of conduct which
God had decreed, and thus man knew that he sinned when he broke God's
commandments, and even in his worst state and lowest descent, man always
had a small voice within him, which was never quite completely drowned out
by the excesses and violences which became habitual to his sinful
existence.

The death of the physical body, and the path toward purification which the
soul, on entering the spirit life, has to take, eventually brought to
man's souls, in the spirit world, freedom from the excrescences and
defilements they had accumulated in the earth life, and these purified
souls turned their attention to helping mortals refrain from violations of
the law, and at the same time embued them with a renewed consciousness of
God as their Creator. These purified souls were angels of the Lord,
because they were souls purified of sin, and because they did the bidding
of God in seeking to assist man to overcome the weakness of his flesh, and
turn him to the Father.

When I uncovered immortality in man's soul, whether on earth or in the
spirit world, men could, if they so chose and willed it, become capable of
receiving the Divine Love, through the operation of the Holy Spirit, and
become Divine Angels of the Lord, not merely purified from sin, but filled
with the essence of the Father, to the extent that they become the
possessors of immortality, and acquire consciousness of that reality.

The Divine Angels of God have been seeking to turn man and spirit to God,
not only as son, in the created sense, or servant, but to have man seek
His Love, partake of His nature and immortality, and become His son in the
real and Divine meaning of the term.

After the creation of man, therefore, there were angels in the sense that
I have explained, but the great angel or messenger -- for angel means
Messenger of God -- was and is the Spirit of God, who is obedience to the
physical laws of God, has been doing the will of the Father, working, not
only on the vast infinity of His universe and bringing about those
constant regroupings and changes in His heavens, but working also on man's
intellect, and moral fiber, ever since man was created by the Father.

The Spirit of God is God's great angel or messenger which has been
manifest throughout all eternity. It was this spirit of the Lord which has
been described in Genesis, hovering over the face of the earth, working
on, and developing it in preparation of the day when life and living
beings could exist and survive on it. It was this Spirit of the Lord which
carried out the decrees of God, and set in motion those cosmic forces and
elements that resulted in the new combination known to you as the solar
system, and which at the Lord's bidding, will bring about the destruction
of the same, and cause the emergence of a new order and a new
dispensation. Before the creation of man, God's only active angel was His
Spirit, His active energy whose operations proclaimed His Majesty, from
everlasting to everlasting.

Adam and Eve, or whom they represent, were created through the operations
of the Spirit of God. God's active energy, which brought about the
groupings of those elements employed in fashioning man, as He fashioned
the other living creatures on earth, but, man was not man, until the
purely spiritual -- and by that, I do not mean the spirit body, which is
of sublimated material, but the soul, in the likeness of God -- was
bestowed upon man. The first parents do not know when they became souls,
that is, when God actually implanted souls into them, for there is no way
of telling when they were human in appearance without their souls, for
without their souls, there was no memory of that degree that such a fact
or state could be recollected by them, nor do they know how this
implanting of the soul took place, even though it was done unto their
bodies; and I shall say, now, neither do I know how it is done, for I have
never seen a soul, although I can perceive its presence through my soul
senses of perception; But when it was accomplished, the first parents were
aware that they were human beings, and that they were the creations of the
Father.

II

Man, as he is considered ordinarily, is a creation which passed through
what you would call a long period of development, as have all of God's
creatures during that period of the earth's development, which enabled
living beings to come into existence and survive.

Man's nature is therefore both animal, or, material, in accordance with
the conditions of his physical being, and spiritual, at the same time, in
accordance with the soul qualities and attributes given to him at the time
God bestowed a soul upon him. In short, man's nature is dual, and thus we
have man with animal passions and feelings and interrelated with these are
those emotions and feelings which belong to his spiritual nature as a
result of having received a soul. The Bible's reference to the creation of
man, refers to the creation of man in the image of God, or to the time,
when God, the Great Soul, conferred upon man a soul, and made him the
greatest of His creations.

In other words, man possesses a double set of emotions, and the activity
or dominance of the animal feelings in man sets in motion those thoughts
and actions related to his material or animal existence, and this is not
of harmony with the laws of God, but it is only when these thoughts and
resultant actions are in violation to the law of God that they are sinful
and cause unhappiness. The influence of these sinful emotions and thoughts
and actions upon the soul is such that the spiritual emotions and
aspirations of man becomes dormant, and as though not existing, and the
soul itself is incrusted with evil. Man knows when his physical passions
and resulting actions violates God's laws, and he must therefore exercise
his will to prevent such violations and allow his feelings to be exercised
for the purpose for which they were given him and also to permit the
development of his spiritual nature and with it the knowledge of his soul
and the relationship which it has with God, it's Creator.

Through prayer, thoughts and soul longings, the spiritual nature in man
can be developed so as to dominate the personality, and he will act in
accord with the feelings and emotions of his soul; if, however, his animal
emotions are allowed to dominate the spiritual emotions of man and
transgress the laws of God concerning them, then the soul becomes
incrusted with these baneful excrescences, or, shall I say, the soul is
contaminated by them, and when the mortal dies and the spirit enters the
spirit world, the soul must undergo a period of suffering in which the
contaminating elements acquired in the earth life are eliminated from the
soul and the soul assumes its pristine purity.

This purification of the soul obeys the dictates of God's law of
compensation, for no such soul is permitted a place in God's spiritual
heavens. The Paradise of the Hebrews cannot be reached without such
purification, yet the time consumed, as you would say, in this process of
purification depends upon the soul itself; Upon the awaking which it has
of its condition, and those circumstances in the spirit world, mainly his
own will, as well as the help of others, which will enable him to make the
necessary progress, all souls in the spirit world will be eventually
purified.

This was the condition of man before the bestowal of the gift of the
Divine Love, which I brought to light during the time of my public
ministry in Palestine. For no man, before I came with this gift, could
achieve At-onement with the Heavenly Father with transformation of his
soul into a Divine Soul, through the pouring out of the Divine Love into
his soul through earnest prayer to the Father for this love, the Father's
Essence, and brought into man's soul through the ministration of His Holy
Spirit.

This then briefly, is the evolution of man from the natural being to the
purified soul and, if he so desires it, to the state of the divine angel.
The soul is the seat of the spiritual emotions, comes from God, and has
the potentiality of becoming At-one with God, if it so desires, while the
gift of the Divine Love, obtained through earnest prayer to the Father, is
still available.

The material feelings, also the creation of God, have nothing of the soul
substance and have no permanent existence in the spirit world, but they do
exist in the spirit world for a certain period, for man passes over from
the mortal life, with all his earth desires and feelings; these, and their
perversions, which harm the soul, however, eventually become evanescent in
the course of the spirit life.

Jesus of the Bible
and
Master of the Celestial Heavens




.

User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Creation of Man 07 Nov 2006 11:27:24 PM
Bill M wrote:

Pure nonsense for which there is NO EVIDENCE just totally unsubstantiated
OPINION!

"Ssam" <ssam@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3t84h.174982$3D1.148269@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-06.htm

"New Testament Revelations", Revelation 6

Creation of Man

I am here to write you on the subject; Who were the angels presumed to
have existed before the creation of man?

As you know, man was created by God from the elements of the universe, and
into man was implanted the soul, or the real or Spiritual man,

===>That is a new-fangled speculation.
According to the Bible, the first man, as all animals,
were sculpted out of mud by a group of aliens named
ELOHIM, led by their nasty, vidictive, jealous leader
YHWH ELOHIM, NOT "from the elements of the universe".
And there was no "soul implant". They ALL received the
same thing: air blown into their noses, which CHANGED them
into a "living soul" from a non-living soul, i.e. a mud
sculpture.
THAT is the BIBLICAL story. -- L.
.


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