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"James" |
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22 Jun 2007 11:28:16 AM |
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Re: Creationism |
"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com>
Re: Creationism
"The proper place for the study of religious beliefs is in a church or temple,
at home, or in a course on comparative religions, but not in a biology
class. There is no place in our world for an ideology that seeks to close
minds, force obedience, and return the world to a paradise that never was.
Students should learn that the universe can be confronted and understood,
that ideas and authority should be questioned, that an open mind is a good
thing. Education does not exist to confirm people's superstitions, and
children do not learn to think when they are fed only dogma."
[Tim Berra, "Evolution and the Myth of Creationism"]
Hello,
The Bible would mostly agree with you about being gullible. The Bible
wants you to check it out as much as you can. 1 Th 5:21,
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (KJV)
Sincerely, James
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Creationism |
22 Jun 2007 03:19:11 PM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:6vtn73llpetl8j2lbq9e23868b8s7lkoo3@4ax.com...
"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com>
Re: Creationism
"The proper place for the study of religious beliefs is in a church or
temple,
at home, or in a course on comparative religions, but not in a biology
class. There is no place in our world for an ideology that seeks to close
minds, force obedience, and return the world to a paradise that never
was.
Students should learn that the universe can be confronted and
understood,
that ideas and authority should be questioned, that an open mind is a
good
thing. Education does not exist to confirm people's superstitions, and
children do not learn to think when they are fed only dogma."
[Tim Berra, "Evolution and the Myth of Creationism"]
Hello,
The Bible would mostly agree with you about being gullible. The Bible
wants you to check it out as much as you can. 1 Th 5:21,
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (KJV)
Christians totally base their faith on the Bibles.
The Bibles are nothing more than books of myths, fables, contradictions,
human and animal sacrifices, genocide, slaveholding, misogyny, destruction,
barbarisms, and impossible tales. They are not accurate history and
certainly are not the words of any god unless he is an insane and totally
untrustworthy monster. They are not even good fiction.
The average person today does not appreciate the difficulty and unlikelihood
of producing accurate transmissions of the original Bibles. Firstly there
are NO ORIGINALS in existence. They are all copies of copies of unknown
accuracy.
One of the problems with the accuracy of the Bibles is that when they were
copied, no marks of punctuation were used, no distinction was made between
lower case and upper case letters and more bizarre to modern script, no
spaces were used to separate words.
This kind of continuous writing was called "scriptuo continua"
'godisnowhere' could mean 'god is now here' or quit the opposite, 'god is no
where' depending on the spacing which not used at the time. This left
accurate interpretation very unlikely if not impossible.
Add to this the natural occurrence of errors of transmission and the
intentional modification to suite the transcribers wishes and beliefs and
you have documents of highly questionable meaning and very poor accuracy.
Further compounding the problem was the size and accuracy of the
vocabularies were much more limited than today.
The Bibles are a foundation of quicksand. There are NO ORIGINALS in
existence. Why would not any 'real' God protect the originals??? What are
available are altered copies of copies by unknown men of questionable
veracity. The books of the Bibles were written over 1,000 years before the
invention of the printing press. Even the so called originals were
supposedly written by 50 or more different authors of unknown veracity. They
are biased by, and dependent on the writings and opinions of the clergy. And
the status and survival of the clergy is totally dependent on their follower's
belief in their Bible stories. There are 18 different English versions alone
and there is no way of knowing how far they have wondered from the
originals.
And there is no evidence that even the originals are anything more than
inaccurate fiction.
Basing ones life and faith on these documents is not very sound reasoning.
It is the equivalent of depending on the good luck of a rabbits foot.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Creationism |
22 Jun 2007 04:44:28 PM |
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James wrote:
"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@trust-but-verify.com>
Re: Creationism
"The proper place for the study of religious beliefs is in a church or temple,
at home, or in a course on comparative religions, but not in a biology
class. There is no place in our world for an ideology that seeks to close
minds, force obedience, and return the world to a paradise that never was.
Students should learn that the universe can be confronted and understood,
that ideas and authority should be questioned, that an open mind is a good
thing. Education does not exist to confirm people's superstitions, and
children do not learn to think when they are fed only dogma."
[Tim Berra, "Evolution and the Myth of Creationism"]
Hello,
The Bible would mostly agree with you about being gullible. The Bible
wants you to check it out as much as you can. 1 Th 5:21,
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (KJV)
===>I did that, and after putting the Bible itself to the proof,
I realized it was good
to know that the claim that it is
the "Word of God" is just a BIG LIE! -- L.
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