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07 Jun 2005 08:07:12 PM |
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~ vera ~ wrote:
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Soho's Neon Glow <nevermore2005@myway.com> wrote:
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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
I think that Vera is no good example for a Christian as she tries to
ruin friendships between people of other religions.
That she did. And she's not the only one playing games behind the
scenes.
Vera still believes I am a Scientologist, even though I have told her
about 5 times now that I am not.
You think like one, you act like one,
More lies from Vera.
and your best friend and Sis is one.
Gee, what a crime, huh? Barbara has chosen to be a Scientologist, by
her own free will. Get real, Vera.
You fight Christianity,
More BS from Vera. I don't fight any religion, Vera. I pointed out some
wrongs that were committed by human beings in the name of god.
and you praise Scientology instead. You even
crosspost to a suicide group and Scientology. I have snipped the crossposts
as you can see above.
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.scientology - I put it back.
Show me I am wrong. I do not see that.
See above and below.
Scientology is no religion. It is a profit-organisation that abuses people
for its purposes to earn more and more money.
All churches collect money, Vera. That's how they stay afloat. Don't
you give 10% of your income to your church? Don't you volunteer your
time to the church, Vera? The last xtian church I was in was very
wealthy. They had 4 pastors all making about $80K/year. The main hall
was so big you could park a jet plane in it with room to spare and that
was just one part of the place. The money that was given to that
church per year totaled into the millions. And for what reason? Not
much except greed is what it looked like. Money! The all powerful
evil... Add up the total wealth of the Christian churches across the
planet and no doubt when you consider property values and investments
we would be looking at an amount of money totaling in the trillions of
dollars. Meanwhile, some of the flock stands in food bank lineups and
they are so poor they often are homeless.
They do not believe in God but
Ron Hubbard, and they do not pray but do Dianetics.
They freely believe and practice their religion by free choice.
They prefer to look for
prey in suicide groups, or in groups where they think they can find people
in a crisis. Just ask ex-members about that. I have.
BS. How many times have you posted your recruitment sig line over the
years, 1000 times? 2000 times?
Please stop crossposting to Scientology from here in future, please, and
tell your friend Barbara to stay on-topic here and stop crossposting, too,
and she will not have a problem with me in future.
Gee, almost sounds like a threat, Vera.
You had no problem with Barbara until you started your fight with her
on ASH, Vera. But before that, you were willing to communicate with her
via email and also to another man who is a Scientologist. So what's the
problem now, Vera? Seems to me you are just using her religion to bash
her for the sake of bashing her.
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12 Jun 2005 12:27:31 PM |
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"~ vera ~" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
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nevermore2005@myway.com wrote:
~ vera ~ wrote:
I really cannot see a reason for you to crosspost to Scientology all
the time. You have not given any understandable reason but that you
- or Barbara, you say yourself that this does not make much
difference - are recruiting for them. Give me a reson to think
differently.
Uh, hello, Vera. Like, for the 10th time now, I am not a
Scientologist, nor do I recruit for them. Is that clear? Or are you
now just obsessed with me?
No, of course I am not.
Anyway I have deleted that crosspost to Scienlology. If I were you, I
would
stop to crosspost to Scientology, because you might loose all your
credibility that you are no member there.
Why do you permanently crosspost to Scientology?
I'm not scientologist either, but I think they have got some good points,
namely:
1. There is a conspiracy for a global dictatorship by the illuminati
2. Psychiatrists, pschiatry and mental health are part of the conspiracy
3. Drugs addictions can be eliminated using scientology techniques.
There may be other points but that is where I am at the moment and what I've
turned up.
However I do realise that scientology was infiltrated and its teachings were
changed from the original.
That is part of the agenda to subvert all true knowledge and discredit any
organisation that could expose the conspirators.
Carole
http://www.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
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| User: "Mark Thorson" |
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12 Jun 2005 12:57:16 PM |
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Carole wrote:
However I do realise that scientology was infiltrated
and its teachings were changed from the original.
That is part of the agenda to subvert all true knowledge and
discredit any organisation that could expose the conspirators.
Carole, you need to talk to Barbara Schwarz.
She used to be head of Scientology in Germany,
before she learned too much and it became necessary
to erase her mind. Perhaps you could invite her
to come to Australia, where she would be safer
from the U.S./German mind control authorities?
I'm sure some contributions could be raised.
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| User: "Vivaldi rocks!" |
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07 Jun 2005 08:36:24 PM |
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~ vera ~ wrote:
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Soho's Neon Glow < > wrote:
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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
I think that Vera is no good example for a Christian as she tries to
ruin friendships between people of other religions.
That she did. And she's not the only one playing games behind the
scenes.
Vera still believes I am a Scientologist, even though I have told her
about 5 times now that I am not.
You think like one, you act like one,
More lies from Vera.
and your best friend and Sis is one.
Gee, what a crime, huh? Barbara has chosen to be a Scientologist, by
her own free will. Get real, Vera.
She is too dishonest to acknowledge that.
You fight Christianity,
More BS from Vera. I don't fight any religion, Vera. I pointed out some
wrongs that were committed by human beings in the name of god.
Vera makes stuff up and then accuses others on it.
and you praise Scientology instead. You even
crosspost to a suicide group and Scientology. I have snipped the crossposts
as you can see above.
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.scientology - I put it back.
Lol.
Show me I am wrong. I do not see that.
See above and below.
Scientology is no religion. It is a profit-organisation that abuses people
for its purposes to earn more and more money.
All churches collect money, Vera. That's how they stay afloat. Don't
you give 10% of your income to your church? Don't you volunteer your
time to the church, Vera? The last xtian church I was in was very
wealthy. They had 4 pastors all making about $80K/year. The main hall
was so big you could park a jet plane in it with room to spare and that
was just one part of the place. The money that was given to that
church per year totaled into the millions. And for what reason? Not
much except greed is what it looked like. Money! The all powerful
evil... Add up the total wealth of the Christian churches across the
planet and no doubt when you consider property values and investments
we would be looking at an amount of money totaling in the trillions of
dollars. Meanwhile, some of the flock stands in food bank lineups and
they are so poor they often are homeless.
She is a hypocrite and does not see the flaws of her own church just
goes after what she thinks is concurrence.
Moreover, all SCN reserves are in Europe, and Vera's country Germany
wants to lead Europe which means, they are getting rich.
They do not believe in God but
Ron Hubbard, and they do not pray but do Dianetics.
They freely believe and practice their religion by free choice.
True.
They prefer to look for
prey in suicide groups, or in groups where they think they can find people
in a crisis. Just ask ex-members about that. I have.
BS. How many times have you posted your recruitment sig line over the
years, 1000 times? 2000 times?
Exactly, and where is my recruitment line? I never had any. When
somebody asked me what my religion is I posted that I am a
Scientologist, but that is all.
Please stop crossposting to Scientology from here in future, please, and
tell your friend Barbara to stay on-topic here and stop crossposting, too,
and she will not have a problem with me in future.
Gee, almost sounds like a threat, Vera.
Yes, it sounds like one. Too bad that I am not afraid of the intolerant
nut Vera. :)
You had no problem with Barbara until you started your fight with her
on ASH, Vera. But before that, you were willing to communicate with her
via email and also to another man who is a Scientologist. So what's the
problem now, Vera? Seems to me you are just using her religion to bash
her for the sake of bashing her.
Yes, Vera knows since a long time that I am a Scientologist. She also
e-mailed another Scientologist friendly, knowing he is one.
She contacted me twice on her own. I never contacted Vera, but she
e-mailed me years ago, but I felt already back then that she tried to
indoctrinate me with her Christian belief. I refused friendly to work
with her.
Later, when you informed me being in contact with you, I replied to
some of her messages friendly, mainly out of courtesy to you, Patrick.
She then mailed me, the Scientologist, copies of e-mails about her
Christian postings and I could not shake it but it seemed to me that
she was looking for a new sheep in her flock. I did not mail her my
scientological postings. She also mailed me once cc of an e-mail to a
friend with a list of alcoholic products, which I considered as weird.
Was she trying to introduce me to drinking? I ignored it as I ignored
her Christian threads in my e-mail box.
But because I objected to her postings making the innocent guilty and
the guilty innocent, she attacks me and wants Patrick to become a
persecutor of my religion. Vera is really fanatical and narrow minded.
I can't put it any friendlier.
Barbara Schwarz
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| User: "Barbara Schwarz" |
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08 Jun 2005 02:05:09 AM |
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This posting comes to you from the notoriously insane Barbara Schwarz
who lives in a fantasy world of her own. She thinks her deceptive
maneuvers and posting under various nyms are educating the masses;
rather, they are getting an eyeful of what happens when the seriously
mentally ill go untreated and unsupervised.
Barbara Schwarz, in addition to be a convicted thief (arrested by Salt
Lake City Police and sentenced by the criminal court for theft) is a
well-established delusional kook who will say anything to draw
attention to herself.
She has been referred to by court judges as a FOIA terrorist and she is
a former mental patient who spent over five years incarcerated in the
Utah State Hospital in Provo, Utah. She refuses psychiatric treatment
and disparages all forms of mental health counseling as tools of
shadowy figures in a global conspiracy against her by members of a
secret German Nazi operation which uses ear implant to exert mind
control over its victims.
Schwarz has been shown, repeatedly, to be mentally deficient and
delusional.
She is hated by all who comes in contact with her in Utah and no one
believes a word she has to say about anything...she is a very angry,
bitter woman who routinely posts hateful, hostile & derogatory on just
about everyone, including her recently deceased mother whom Schwarz has
relied on for her financial support for years, because the 49-year old
Schwarz is too mentally unbalanced to be employed and self-sustaining.
Schwarz is a monumental liar who claims to be a Scientologist and that
any Scientologists critical of her are either infiltrators or spies,
evidence that she is a paranoid schizophrenic.
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| User: "Kansas" |
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08 Jun 2005 12:44:41 PM |
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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
This posting comes to you from the notoriously insane Barbara Schwarz
Foregoing posting is a forgery of Garry Scarff.
Scarff assaults and stalks Barbara Schwarz on behalf of most if not all
of the anti-religious extremists and in cooperation with a NANAE punk.
See http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/index.html
Joblesss bum, Earthlink terrorist, death treat maker Garry Lynn Scarff
from Hollywood California hates, harasses, stalks and lies about
Barbara Schwarz because she does not want him and he never will get a
chance with her. LAPD investigates Scarff under case no: 04-4693. He is
posting that the investigation against him is dismissed by some kind of
Commercial Crime Investigation Unit. Barbara Schwarz swore under oath
that he never filed a complaint against Scarff to this unit. It also
makes no sense. Scarff is a jobless guy, what has he to do with
commerce? Ask him to post the letter of dismissal under that specific
case number. If the criminal investigation indeed would be dismissed,
the LAPD would provide him with a letter of dismissal mentioning that
number. If LAPD detective would indeed dismiss that investigation, they
should share a prison cell with Scarff. He continues to commit crimes
against federal and state laws. They can't let him come away with death
threats, forging, impostering and assaulting and maliciously defaming
Barbara Schwarz and others in public. He even got his criminal hands on
Barb's mail as he operates under her name.
Call the Salt Lake City jail or the Provo Mental Hospital: Barbara
Schwarz never set a foot in them. Scarff is criminally fabricating
that.
If you ask me, Scarff is beyond his snapping point. One day he will
board Greyhound and harm her or kill her.
http://www.webelievers.com/26838-Open-Letter-to-Episcopal-Church-Rev-Frank-Griswold-and-other-executives.html
Phoenix New Times 1995-11-30
Attorney Kendrick Moxon says, "Garry Scarff is a liar." He says Scarff
was
a deprogrammer who became disenchanted with Cult Awareness Network
and came to Scientology begging to be used against his former
allies.
Moxon disagrees. "Scarff's own father says he's a scumbag."
In this article is also mentioned that Scarff made death threats. He
has not changed a bit.
There is also a poster on ARS, Orkeltatte who claims to the a
psychiatrists from Sweden. That man tries to analyze posters in this
newsgroup but strikingly never noticed that the Garry Scarff produces
one mentally sick posting after the other.
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| User: "Schizophrenic Barbara Schwarz is violating Utah penal codes!" |
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08 Jun 2005 12:51:24 PM |
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This posting comes to you from the notoriously insane Barbara Schwarz
who lives in a fantasy world of her own. She thinks her deceptive
maneuvers and posting under various nyms are educating the masses;
rather, they are getting an eyeful of what happens when the seriously
mentally ill go untreated and unsupervised.
Barbara Schwarz, in addition to be a convicted thief (arrested by Salt
Lake City Police and sentenced by the criminal court for theft) is a
well-established delusional kook who will say anything to draw
attention to herself.
She has been referred to by court judges as a FOIA terrorist and she is
a former mental patient who spent over five years incarcerated in the
Utah State Hospital in Provo, Utah. She refuses psychiatric treatment
and disparages all forms of mental health counseling as tools of
shadowy figures in a global conspiracy against her by members of a
secret German Nazi operation which uses ear implant to exert mind
control over its victims.
Schwarz has been shown, repeatedly, to be mentally deficient and
delusional.
She is hated by all who comes in contact with her in Utah and no one
believes a word she has to say about anything...she is a very angry,
bitter woman who routinely posts hateful, hostile & derogatory on just
about everyone, including her recently deceased mother whom Schwarz has
relied on for her financial support for years, because the 49-year old
Schwarz is too mentally unbalanced to be employed and self-sustaining.
Schwarz is a monumental liar who claims to be a Scientologist and that
any Scientologists critical of her are either infiltrators or spies,
evidence that she is a paranoid schizophrenic.
Check out these very interesting links on this mentally troubled woman:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html
http://barbaraschwarz.seekingrevenge.com/
The FOIA Terrorist -
http://www.thescoop.org/archives/2003/05/15/the-foia-terrorist/
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| User: "Barbara Schwarz" |
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08 Jun 2005 05:05:47 PM |
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Above posting is by criminal Garry Scarff who is investigated by the
LAPD.
I post herewith some links about the "credibility" of the Salt Lake
Tribune.
http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2003/feat_2003-05-08.cfm
http://www.slweekly.com//editorial/2004/city_2_2004-10-28.cfm
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=38041
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3077
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3036
Barbara Schwarz
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| User: "Barbara Schwanz" |
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08 Jun 2005 10:16:38 PM |
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This posting comes to you from the notoriously insane Barbara Schwarz
who lives in a fantasy world of her own. She thinks her deceptive
maneuvers and posting under various nyms are educating the masses;
rather, they are getting an eyeful of what happens when the seriously
mentally ill go untreated and unsupervised.
Barbara Schwarz, in addition to be a convicted thief (arrested by Salt
Lake City Police and sentenced by the criminal court for theft) is a
well-established delusional kook who will say anything to draw
attention to herself.
She has been referred to by court judges as a FOIA terrorist and she is
a former mental patient who spent over five years incarcerated in the
Utah State Hospital in Provo, Utah. She refuses psychiatric treatment
and disparages all forms of mental health counseling as tools of
shadowy figures in a global conspiracy against her by members of a
secret German Nazi operation which uses ear implant to exert mind
control over its victims.
Schwarz has been shown, repeatedly, to be mentally deficient and
delusional.
She is hated by all who comes in contact with her in Utah and no one
believes a word she has to say about anything...she is a very angry,
bitter woman who routinely posts hateful, hostile & derogatory on just
about everyone, including her recently deceased mother whom Schwarz has
relied on for her financial support for years, because the 49-year old
Schwarz is too mentally unbalanced to be employed and self-sustaining.
Schwarz is a monumental liar who claims to be a Scientologist and that
any Scientologists critical of her are either infiltrators or spies,
evidence that she is a paranoid schizophrenic.
Check out these very interesting links on this mentally troubled woman:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html
http://barbaraschwarz.seekingrevenge.com/
The FOIA Terrorist -
http://www.thescoop.org/archives/2003/05/15/the-foia-terrorist/
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13 Jun 2005 06:01:34 PM |
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~ vera ~ wrote:
Klimbim <nonspam@nospam.com> wrote:
~ vera ~ wrote:
You are supporting Scientology by this, and everybody can see that.
You also
call me a liar for it.
+posting to alt.religion.scientology does not mean I support
Scientology, Vera. If I +posted to alt.whacka.mole would that mean I
support the whacking of moles?
Furthermore, if you get me, you get Barbara too. That's the bottom
line. Barbara and I are like family and that's all there is to that.
Yes, I know - and getting Barbara means getting Scientology.
I am no supporter of Scientology and will never be.
I really cannot see a reason for you to crosspost to Scientology all the
time. You have not given any understandable reason but that you - or
Barbara, you say yourself that this does not make much difference - are
recruiting for them. Give me a reson to think differently.
Because I said I do not? Is that good enough for you?
You know, I just got a snail mail from Barbara with Christian info in
it, including a key chain with the "Footprints" poem on it. Funny that
you accuse Barbara of trying to convert me to Scientology, when she
sends me words of Christian encouragement and Christian literature.
Re. your son. It was *you*, deary, who spammed Usenet with details re.
your son and you even posted his real name. In another conversation you
had with another poster, written in German, that poster had posted your
son's picture and you had no objection to that. Rather, you struck up a
friendly conversation with him and had a good old time, even though you
knew that in the past your own name had been trashed and smeared by
others and that your son could face the same fate from vengeful Usenet
posters. Yet you still have his picture on your website and you've done
nothing to protect his reputation by way of removing his image from
your site and Google's cache.
If anyone here had done damage to your son's rep, it's you, gal...
In email, you attacked me over my past and accused me of being
controlled by others. Bull *****. No one controls me. Then, an email
later, you stated that it was for my own good and I should have to hear
your words to more or less wake me up. Bull *****. You said those things
to me because it made you feel good, didn't you and didn't it? If you
knew anything about me, you would have known that the main freakin'
reason I ended up in this freakin' hell-hole was because of ***** that
happened about 4 years ago.
Vera, you are a certifiable Usenet Ko0k. You have time and time again
accused me of being a Scientologist. And you sided with Karin "THE
KILLER" Spaink, a woman who posts suicide related info to anyone, even
pre-teen kids, for god sakes. What does that make you, Vera? Are you
just as evil as Karin Spaink? Griffin is also friends with Spaink, just
so you'll know.
The sickening fundamentalist attitude of many Christians is just one of
the many reasons Christians have a bad name around the globe. No one
has asked you to agree with other religions. But your pathetic attempts
at trying to silence the free speech of other people whose religion is
not the same as your own and your rotten attitude towards those people
and their religions has shown you to be deserving of some sort of
Usenet kook award. Is their one for kooky Christians? How about the "72
Raisins 'Crackpot Religion' Award"?
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13 Jun 2005 06:25:24 PM |
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~ vera ~ wrote:
Klimbim <nonspam@nospam.com> wrote:
~ vera ~ wrote:
You are supporting Scientology by this, and everybody can see that.
You also
call me a liar for it.
+posting to alt.religion.scientology does not mean I support
Scientology, Vera. If I +posted to alt.whacka.mole would that mean I
support the whacking of moles?
Furthermore, if you get me, you get Barbara too. That's the bottom
line. Barbara and I are like family and that's all there is to that.
Yes, I know - and getting Barbara means getting Scientology.
I am no supporter of Scientology and will never be.
I really cannot see a reason for you to crosspost to Scientology all the
time. You have not given any understandable reason but that you - or
Barbara, you say yourself that this does not make much difference - are
recruiting for them. Give me a reson to think differently.
Because I said I do not? Is that good enough for you?
Fact is, Vera, Patrick has not to prove you anything. He is proud to be
tolerant towards my religion and I am tolerant of his belief. It worked
just fine before you tried to inject poison into that, Vera. And it
still works fine because we don't adopt your hatred.
You know, I just got a snail mail from Barbara with Christian info in
it, including a key chain with the "Footprints" poem on it. Funny that
you accuse Barbara of trying to convert me to Scientology, when she
sends me words of Christian encouragement and Christian literature.
I leave Patrick's choice of religion completely up to him. As he has
often no easy life, I want him to feel not alone when matters come
rough. I, as a Scientologist believe in God but so does he. God exists
and will carry him through storms as he did before. When life come on
hard, I want him to trust in himself, but also in God, that he looks at
the key chain and gets comfort and hope.
Vera, there is really just one God. It is the same one in each
religion, he just has different names in some of the religions. My
guess is that you never read the creed of Scientology.
Re. your son. It was *you*, deary, who spammed Usenet with details re.
your son and you even posted his real name. In another conversation you
had with another poster, written in German, that poster had posted your
son's picture and you had no objection to that. Rather, you struck up a
friendly conversation with him and had a good old time, even though you
knew that in the past your own name had been trashed and smeared by
others and that your son could face the same fate from vengeful Usenet
posters. Yet you still have his picture on your website and you've done
nothing to protect his reputation by way of removing his image from
your site and Google's cache.
If anyone here had done damage to your son's rep, it's you, gal...
This is correct, Vera, and it was very mean of you to accuse me of
having objected your son to Usenet, when you made him to center stage
already in so many publications.
In email, you attacked me over my past and accused me of being
controlled by others. Bull *****. No one controls me. Then, an email
later, you stated that it was for my own good and I should have to hear
your words to more or less wake me up. Bull *****. You said those things
to me because it made you feel good, didn't you and didn't it? If you
knew anything about me, you would have known that the main freakin'
reason I ended up in this freakin' hell-hole was because of ***** that
happened about 4 years ago.
Nobody controls Patrick, but you sure try, Vera. Patrick and I became
like family because we had the same disgust of people who encourage
others to kill themselves. During the years that I know him, I never
tried to control him, I just tried to be a good friend and sister. No
strings attached.
Vera, you are a certifiable Usenet Ko0k. You have time and time again
accused me of being a Scientologist. And you sided with Karin "THE
KILLER" Spaink, a woman who posts suicide related info to anyone, even
pre-teen kids, for god sakes. What does that make you, Vera? Are you
just as evil as Karin Spaink? Griffin is also friends with Spaink, just
so you'll know.
Vera showed her true face in this thread. She is here to distribute her
religion and if it means posting pro suicide encouragers Spaink and
Griffin, she does.
The sickening fundamentalist attitude of many Christians is just one of
the many reasons Christians have a bad name around the globe. No one
has asked you to agree with other religions. But your pathetic attempts
at trying to silence the free speech of other people whose religion is
not the same as your own and your rotten attitude towards those people
and their religions has shown you to be deserving of some sort of
Usenet kook award. Is their one for kooky Christians? How about the "72
Raisins 'Crackpot Religion' Award"?
Well you heard it, Vera, but as I know you, you will not be truthful
but continue to wrongfully blame me or Scientology for Patrick telling
you true words.
Barbara Schwarz
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13 Jun 2005 06:33:36 PM |
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Vera, this is the creed of Scientology. I never have posted any
Scientology information on ASH before, but you posted numerous bible
citations that did not even fit to the situation.
Here is the creed of Scientology. I am a Scientologist and believe in
the almighty God, and if you and people like you claim otherwise, they
are simply lying.
Barbara Schwarz
Creed of Scientology
That all men of whatever race, color, or creed were created with equal
rights;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices
and their performance;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;
That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;
That all men have inalienable rights to conceive, choose, assist or
support their own organizations, churches and governments;
That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely,
to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write
upon the opinions of others;
That all men have inalienable rights to the creation of their own kind;
That the souls of men have the rights of men;
That the study of the mind and the healing of mentally caused ills
should not be alienated from religion or condoned in non-religious
fields;
And that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside
these rights, overtly or covertly.
And we of the Church believe:
That man is basically good;
That he is seeking to survive;
That his survival depends upon himself and upon his fellows and his
attainment of brotherhood with the universe.
And we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid man:
To destroy his own kind;
To destroy the sanity of another;
To destroy or enslave another's soul;
To destroy or reduce the survival of one's companions or one's group.
And we of the Church believe that the spirit can be saved and that the
spirit alone may save or heal the body.
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14 Jun 2005 02:01:06 AM |
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Check out these very interesting links on this funny, but mentally
disturbed bag lady who has gained an incredible, international (and
very negative) reputation for her deliberate & criminal acts of lying,
fraud and racketeering.
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara schwarz.html
http://barbaraschwarz.seekingrevenge.com
http://www.thescoop.org/archives/2003/05/15/the-foia-terrorist/
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbaraschwarz11.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbaraschwarz14.htm
http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbaraschwarz.php
http://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0567.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbaraschwarz25.htm
Schwarz is a total waste of humanity and a very dangerous person.
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14 Jun 2005 01:03:06 PM |
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Scarff forged: Analytical Publications wrote:
Check out these very interesting links on this funny,
Before Barbara Schwarz became Garry Scarff's favorite stalker target,
he committed crimes against others.
In testimony of November 22, 1994, webbed on numerous websites, Garry
Scarff himself admitted that he kidnapped a student from Oregon to
Bellevue Washington;
that he was involved in conspiracy to commit murder;
that he was involved with at least two deprogrammings; (At least one
involved also sexual abuse.)
that he posed as candidate for LAPD employment; (Candidate for lifelong
incarceration is more likely if you as me.)
that he worked for the Cult Awareness Network, (CAN) who was accused of
violating the RICO ACT;
that he lied that Patricial Ryan was a prostitute;
that he wrote derogatory letter to the director of a catholic
archdiocese.
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An affidavit by Garry Scarff of April 4, 1994, posted by Modemac also
reveals
that Scarff was part of a murder conspiracy (or was his plan only if
you ask me);
that he made death threats;
that he harassed people over the phone;
and that he plead the Fifth regarding his crime against a Portland
Bank.
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Somebody who speaks German translated that for me. It says that Garry
Scarff posed before a mass of people as "last survivor of Guyana".
http://www.menschenrechtsbuero.de/html/teil4.htm
Zur Erinnerung: Auch dem angeblichen Ex-Scientologen und "Insider"
Garry Scarff und seinen Kollegen standen "vor Lachen die Tr=E4nen in den
Augen", wie er freim=FCtig vor Gericht bekannte, nachdem er sich vorher
der staunenden Menge als "letzter =DCberlebender von Guyana" offeriert
hatte.
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In a transcript of the case Religious Technology Center v. H. Keith
Henson of May 11, 1998, case C-96-20271 on line 14-15 is a sentence
about Scarff that reveals his missing credibilty:
"=2E..Scarff testified about that so that misrepresents what's in that
record".
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Scarff was also the person who brought up that the dog of judge
Swearinger was killed. My question is: Did Scarff kill that dog?
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14 Jun 2005 09:40:07 PM |
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*** WARNING: READING BARBARA SCHWARZ' POSTS MAY CAUSE SEVERE
CONVULSIONS, CONFUSION AND DIARRHEA ***
This schizophrenic whack-job lives for the attention she receives on
ARS and other newsgroups.
The following quote from the Salt Late Tribune pretty much sums up this
major nutcase:
Schwarz says she is a daughter of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard
and a granddaughter of President Eisenhower and said she endured a
number of kidnappings and mind control and microchip-implanting
procedures in her quest to learn the whereabouts of her alleged
husband, whom Schwarz said disappeared after he was charged with
murdering Barbara Schwarz (yes, the same one). She has, said the
Tribune, "carpet-bombed" "every" federal agency with "thousands" of
FOIA requests, followed by "dozens" of follow-up lawsuits (one
containing 2,307 pages, naming 3,087 defendants).
Every lawsuit she files - she loses; every appeal she files - she
loses; every complaint she has ever filed against her perceived enemies
(almost everyone but herself) - is dismissed as frivolous; anyone
that dares to criticize or ask her to behave is met with hostility,
slander, stalking and harassment, and accused of being a German Nazi
secret service agent.
Nutcase Barbara Schwarz' is so mentally disturbed, the 49-yr. old
transient has to be financially supported by her family because she is
considered too mental and too dangerous to others to be employed in a
real job.
Schwarz enjoys calling the people she harasses - criminals -
choosing to deny her own past history of being convicted in a criminal
court for theft.
One critic states, "Barbara...has shown a level of cluelessness and
idiocy that is difficult to fake and imperviousness to reality..."
For more interesting information on this enormously disturbed nutcase:
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbara-schwarz-usenet-abuser.htm
http://www.raids.org/bskook1.htm
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/7089
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/3287
http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/mds/schwarz112803.htm
http://blog.librarylaw.com/librarylaw/2005/04/library_invento.html
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbara-schwarz-vs-fbi-dismissed.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbaraschwarz28.htm
http://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0671.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbara_schwarz21.htm
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| User: "Put a little love in your heart" |
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14 Jun 2005 09:56:20 PM |
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Babblin' Schwarz wrote:
*** WARNING: READING BARBARA SCHWARZ' POSTS MAY CAUSE SEVERE
CONVULSIONS, CONFUSION AND DIARRHEA ***
Did you kidnap another student lately, Scarff? Where you again involved
in deprogramming with sexual abuse?
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| User: "Did Barbara Schwarz have sex with judge Swearingers dog?" |
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14 Jun 2005 10:13:26 PM |
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<yawn>
Honestly, I fail to comprehend how you can continue to function on any
level with an IQ that is three degrees below whale *****.
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| User: "Kansas" |
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15 Jun 2005 12:37:29 PM |
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Did Barbara Schwarz have sex with judge Swearinger's dog? wrote:
<yawn>
Honestly, I fail to comprehend how you can continue to function on any
level with an IQ that is three degrees below whale *****.
Garry Scarff stalks and defames Barbara Schwarz because she posted that
she is convinced that a German Nazi Psychiatrie secret service was
never dismantled, but Scarff himself dramatized "conspiracies" by
others in his declarations on the net. (See examination before Tracey
L=2E Kuhlin, CSR No. 7735.) When HE claims conspiracies exists they do,
when she does, they don't?
Scarff indicated that there was a plan of putting cynanide sodium
chloride in the coffee of people to make them sick. As he is such a
liar, one can assume that this plan came directly from himself and his
psychiatric bosses.
Scarff also admitted in that examination that he is Lynn Garrett, and I
wonder what crimes were committed under that false name.
Scarff has lied to be an employee of law firm Bowles & Moxon.
Scarff worked for the Pacific First Bank in Portland Oregon and took
the Fifth as to his crimes committed against that employer. (Remember,
he stole the funds of an organization.)
In another declaration of Garry Scarff,entered in Grays Harbor Court
record/Sept. 20, 1993, Scarff concealed the truth that he was always a
psychiatric agent and sent to the Scientology churches to offer them
help against religious persecution only to turn later on them and lie
about them.
Scarff testified that he made death threats against deprogrammer Rick
Ross and the question is if that was the idea of Rick Ross and Scarff
to make deprogrammer Ross to a "victim". Scarff admitted several times
that he never were a Scientologist. He just hung out in their
organization for a while.
Rick Ross is a spin doctor. His documented criminal past is extensive
and he fools people nevertheless into believing him. Fellow
anti-religious extremist Dave Touretzky defends Rick Ross on his
Carnegie Mellon University sponsored website despite he should know
about his criminal record and that Rick Ross was an advisor to the Waco
standoff that turned into a deadly disaster for many.
(Check the anti-religious profiles of Rick Ross and David Touretzky on
the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org.)
Garry Scarff be lie detector tested on who really runs him during the
time he claimed he worked for Scientology and who still is running him
now.
On December 3, 1991, Garry Scarff, who lived formerly at 2137 NE
Weidler Street, Portland, OR 97232 wrote to Sally Jesse Raphael Show
that he posted from 1978-88 as a survivor of people's Temple/Jonestown
tragedy to make money for the Cult Awareness Network and that they
defrauded thousands of Dollars.
How come that guy is not in federal prison, FBI?
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There is a letter by Thomas Kruchem on the web. He seems to be a
reporter. He also writes about Scarff. Somebody who speaks German
translated that he wrote that he heard quite some stories about Scarff
from attorneys. Scarff sent a letter through attorneys Abling & Chapman
in 1995 demanding damages as sexually molested by an archbishop. (While
sexual abuses by priests are a sad facts, it is very doubtful that
Scarff ever was molested but that he just tries to extort as he also
extorted the University of California by lying he would be a Jew and
was attacked by a Moslim.)
Apparently, revealing information about Scarff's missing character and
his activities are in his own affidavit of October 6, 1991, in
newspaper reports of the Daily News of November 1, 1983 and Milwaukee
Journal of April 2, 1988 and that Scarff never was a Scientologist, and
that he is not credible.
"Bez. Garry Scarff, mit dem Herr Reichelt (m=F6glicherweise f=FCr o.g.
Film) Aufnahmen in M=FCnchen machte, habe ich 1998 von einem CAN-Anwalt
(!) die hei=DFesten Stories geh=F6rt. Ich lege bei: ein Schreiben der
Anw=E4lte Abling & Chapman v. 14.4.95, in dem Scarff Schadenersatz wg.
sexueller Bel=E4stigung durch einen Erzbischof verlangt; ein Schreiben
Scarffs an Scientology-Anwalt Abelson v. 18.3.97; eine eidesstattliche
Erkl=E4rung Scarffs v. 6.10.91; Zeitungsausschnitte aus den "Daily News"
v=2E 1.11.83 und dem "Milwaukee Journal" v. 2.4.88; zwei Seiten aus
Protokoll eines US-Gerichts, in dem Frau Anne Greek vom "Cult Awareness
Network" =FCber Herrn Scarff aussagt. Die Scientologen behaupten, wie
Sie sicher wissen, da=DF Herr Scarff nie Mitglied bei Ihnen war. - Ich
mu=DF hierzu anmerken, da=DF schon die unkritische Nutzung Scarffs durch
Egmont Koch f=FCr den WDR (1997) meine Verwunderung erregte (vgl. a.
anl. Beitrag der "Augsburger Allgemeine" v. 4.4.97). Thomas Kruchem"
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| User: "The-Barbara-Schwarz-needs-to-be-neutered-and-given-a-flea-dip-operation" |
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15 Jun 2005 12:53:58 PM |
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*** WARNING: READING BARBARA SCHWARZ' POSTS MAY CAUSE SEVERE
CONVULSIONS, CONFUSION AND DIARRHEA ***
This schizophrenic whack-job lives for the attention she receives on
ARS and other newsgroups. She enjoys posting under numerous different
nyms with titles attacking Garry Scarff.
Her latest nym "Garry Scarff defrauded people by lying he is a
Jonestown survivor" leaves out an important point which is deliberate
by this nutcase.
"Garry Scarff defrauded people by lying that he is a Jonestown survivor
as part of an OSA & Scientology scheme to cause the downfall and
closure of the Cult Awareness Network which was viewed as a threat and
No.# 1 enemy by the cult."
Unfortunately, when it comes to telling the truth, Barbara Schwarz just
doesn't know how.
The following quote from the Salt Late Tribune pretty much sums up this
major nutcase:
Schwarz says she is a daughter of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard
and a granddaughter of President Eisenhower and said she endured a
number of kidnappings and mind control and microchip-implanting
procedures in her quest to learn the whereabouts of her alleged
husband, whom Schwarz said disappeared after he was charged with
murdering Barbara Schwarz (yes, the same one). She has, said the
Tribune, "carpet-bombed" "every" federal agency with "thousands" of
FOIA requests, followed by "dozens" of follow-up lawsuits (one
containing 2,307 pages, naming 3,087 defendants).
Every lawsuit she files - she loses; every appeal she files - she
loses; every complaint she has ever filed against her perceived enemies
(almost everyone but herself) - is dismissed as frivolous; anyone
that dares to criticize or ask her to behave is met with hostility,
slander, stalking and harassment, and accused of being a German Nazi
secret service agent.
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08 Jun 2005 07:15:25 PM |
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~ vera ~ wrote:
nevermore2005@myway.com wrote:
~ vera ~ wrote:
I really cannot see a reason for you to crosspost to Scientology all
the time. You have not given any understandable reason but that you
- or Barbara, you say yourself that this does not make much
difference - are recruiting for them. Give me a reson to think
differently.
Uh, hello, Vera. Like, for the 10th time now, I am not a
Scientologist, nor do I recruit for them. Is that clear? Or are you
now just obsessed with me?
No, of course I am not.
Anyway I have deleted that crosspost to Scienlology. If I were you, I would
stop to crosspost to Scientology, because you might loose all your
credibility that you are no member there.
+posted to
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.scientology,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.bible,alt.usenet.kooks
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