Religions > Bible > Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"?
| Topic: |
Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Quartus" |
| Date: |
16 Apr 2005 06:19:19 PM |
| Object: |
Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
Rod wrote:
Well wordsmith ? Wheres your response at ? Lets deal with these
verses for a while, shall we ? I know what they are saying, lets
see if you do ! Cat got your tongue, quartus ?
Now you are taunting, Rod? The scripture says, "Out of the abundance of
the heart the mouth speaks".
I had already answered this in another post, previous to Steve Winter's
latest blundering post.
Rod wrote:
Steve, truly you *KNOW* the depths of satan, and I for one believe
that your willingness to know his way has taken you beyong the reach of
redemption. I see your act here as a *warning by God to me*, and others
feeling as I have about you, and your hate and act here have truly
allied you with the devil himself.
The scripture says again, "Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his
garments not be burned?"
Quartus, a brother but not your brother
.
|
|
| User: "Rod" |
|
| Title: Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
16 Apr 2005 07:57:35 PM |
|
|
Quartus wrote:
Rod wrote:
Well wordsmith ? Wheres your response at ? Lets deal with these
verses for a while, shall we ? I know what they are saying, lets
see if you do ! Cat got your tongue, quartus ?
Now you are taunting, Rod?
No. Intense interest, and impatient as well. I want to read what you
have to say, I'm sure it will be interesting, and it will give me
something to mull over.
I had already answered this in another post, previous to Steve Winter's
latest blundering post.
Rod wrote:
Steve, truly you *KNOW* the depths of satan, and I for one believe
that your willingness to know his way has taken you beyong the reach of
redemption. I see your act here as a *warning by God to me*, and others
feeling as I have about you, and your hate and act here have truly
allied you with the devil himself.
Yes, I wrote this. Do you delight in reopening Steves wounds ? You
must have enjoyed reminding us both. Out of the abundance of your heart
you've spoken....you're kind of wicked in your own ways.....
The scripture says again, "Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his
garments not be burned?"
Thats very true, and what works for you works for me as well, and my
garments are intact.
Quartus, a brother but not your brother
Rod
.
|
|
|
| User: "Quartus" |
|
| Title: Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
17 Apr 2005 07:35:14 AM |
|
|
Rod wrote:
Steve, truly you *KNOW* the depths of satan, and I for one believe
that your willingness to know his way has taken you beyong the reach of
redemption. I see your act here as a *warning by God to me*, and others
feeling as I have about you, and your hate and act here have truly
allied you with the devil himself.
Yes, I wrote this. Do you delight in reopening Steves wounds ? You
must have enjoyed reminding us both. Out of the abundance of your heart
you've spoken....you're kind of wicked in your own ways.....
It's wicked to quote what you once said and point out that the scripture
says if you take this kind of a man into your bosom, which you have
done, that you will be burned by him? I take no pleasure in sin.
my garments are intact.
We shall see whether God is correct or you are correct.
Quartus, a brother, but not your brother
.
|
|
|
| User: "Rod" |
|
| Title: Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
17 Apr 2005 07:33:00 PM |
|
|
Quartus wrote:
Rod wrote:
Steve, truly you *KNOW* the depths of satan, and I for one believe
that your willingness to know his way has taken you beyong the reach of
redemption. I see your act here as a *warning by God to me*, and others
feeling as I have about you, and your hate and act here have truly
allied you with the devil himself.
Yes, I wrote this. Do you delight in reopening Steves wounds ? You
must have enjoyed reminding us both. Out of the abundance of your heart
you've spoken....you're kind of wicked in your own ways.....
It's wicked to quote what you once said and point out that the scripture
says if you take this kind of a man into your bosom, which you have
done, that you will be burned by him? I take no pleasure in sin.
my garments are intact.
We shall see whether God is correct or you are correct.
Quartus, a brother, but not your brother
Quartus, I think it is time to say goodbye to you. For several weeks
now I've seen nothing productive or Holy come from any conversation
with you, or for that matter many others on this ng. It seems to me
that in nearly every post you've made you find some manner to promote
strife, and you're not alone in this either ! Personally I've had as
much of it as I'll ever be able to tolerate. So I'll say very little
more other than I hope you'll eventually see for yourself how wrongly
trinitarianism has misinterpreted the Gospels.
Goodbye.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Quartus" |
|
| Title: Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
18 Apr 2005 07:20:10 AM |
|
|
Rod wrote:
Quartus, I think it is time to say goodbye to you. For several weeks
now I've seen nothing productive or Holy come from any conversation
with you, or for that matter many others on this ng. It seems to me
that in nearly every post you've made you find some manner to promote
strife, and you're not alone in this either ! Personally I've had as
much of it as I'll ever be able to tolerate.
Rod, I'm not surprised that you do not like or want people to oppose the
false doctrines and teachings of wicked men.
Pointing out purveyors of false teaching and opposing them is not
promoting strife, as you characterize it, but rather holiness and
obedience to God. Timothy was exhorted by the Apostle Paul to:
"I testify before God and Christ Jesus, who is about to judge living and
dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom, proclaim the word; be urgent
in season and out of season, convict, rebuke, encourage, with all
longsuffering and doctrine. For the time shall be when they will not
bear sound teaching; but according to their own lusts will heap up to
themselves teachers, having an itching ear; and they will turn away
their ear from the truth, and will have turned aside to fables. But
thou, be sober in all things, bear evils, do the work of an evangelist,
fill up the full measure of thy ministry."
It's hypocritical of you to be a follower of Steve Winter who has made a
career of promoting strife, cursings, railings, and revilings of people,
and then attempt to accuse those who oppose his blasphemous and false
doctrines of "promoting strife". You, who recently made a degrading,
disgusting sexual reference about another, and who writes in a taunting
manner, is going to preach to another about being holy, or about strife?
From whom have you learned that sinful behavior, Steve Winter?
"While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of
corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in
bondage." 2 Peter 2:19
I hope you'll eventually see for yourself how wrongly
trinitarianism has misinterpreted the Gospels.
I note that you did not answer the question of this very thread, Does
"Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"?
One CANNOT be correctly interpreting the gospels when they interpret
"allos" to mean "the same".
Quartus, a brother
.
|
|
|
| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
|
| Title: Satan's Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish pride engorged Carl Walther |
18 Apr 2005 01:23:06 PM |
|
|
Quartus <quartus_a_brother@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:
"While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of
corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in
bondage." 2 Peter 2:19
Is it not the vile false-christian scum Charles "Quartus" Stanley
who is teaching against obedience of Acts 2:38? The ignorant
false-christian pig "Quartus" posts the very verses that condemn
him.
Ever wonder why deceivers, and fake christians in general like
the vile deceivers Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish
pride engorged Carl Walther, single out Acts 2:38 as the verse
that "need not be obeyed"? It is because Acts 2:38 is the plan
of salvation for the new testament church. Notice that Jesus had
personally given Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven:
Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed
in heaven.
Let us also notice that when sinners were "pricked in their
hearts" and asked Peter what they could do, that Peter unlocked
the kingdom of heaven for "as many as the Lord our God shall
call"
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both
Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their
heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men
[and] brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Notice, there were 3000 there that elected to have their sins
remitted. So you better believe that the ministers of Satan like
Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish pride engorged Carl
Walther will do just about anything that he can to try to
downplay Acts 2:38. Paul mentions that there will be those that
come along and preach "another gospel."
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Paul also didn't leave us in ignorance that when Satan's
ministers come, they come masquerading as "ministers of
righteousness", as smooth talking false preachers saying "Just
claim belief and you are saved."
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.
It is the job of the false preachers like Charles "Quartus"
Stanley and the devilish pride engorged Carl Walther to cause YOU
to be among those that don't obey Acts 2:38.
II Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
II Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them
that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus
Christ:
Notice that there are TWO groups mentioned in verse 8, those that
don't know God, AND those that know him BUT REFUSE TO OBEY HIM.
II Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of
his power;
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Water Baptism in Jesus name remits sins BECAUSE of Jesus finished
work on the cross. It is the re-birth of water (see John 3:5).
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into
Christ have put on Christ.
The devil's accursed servants like Charles "Quartus" Stanley
don't want you to "put on Christ". They want you to reject Jesus
name baptism. Is the man in the pulpit of your church just there
to soothe you into hell? Is your preacher stressing the URGENCY
of obeying the Bible or is he/she/it selling a fable of a false
grace that ignores obedience to the Bible.
II Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
II Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the
truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Is your preacher preaching Acts 2:38, or soothing fables like the
devilish trash "Quartus" or the filthy deceiver Carl Walther?
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
|
| Title: Re: Does "Another Comforter" really mean "The Same Comforter"? |
18 Apr 2005 01:23:51 PM |
|
|
Quartus <quartus_a_brother@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:
"While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of
corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in
bondage." 2 Peter 2:19
See my reply as:
"Satan's Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish pride
engorged Carl Walther"
Is it not the vile false-christian scum Charles "Quartus" Stanley
who is teaching against obedience of Acts 2:38? The ignorant
false-christian pig "Quartus" posts the very verses that condemn
him.
Ever wonder why deceivers, and fake christians in general like
the vile deceivers Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish
pride engorged Carl Walther, single out Acts 2:38 as the verse
that "need not be obeyed"? It is because Acts 2:38 is the plan
of salvation for the new testament church. Notice that Jesus had
personally given Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven:
Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed
in heaven.
Let us also notice that when sinners were "pricked in their
hearts" and asked Peter what they could do, that Peter unlocked
the kingdom of heaven for "as many as the Lord our God shall
call"
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both
Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their
heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men
[and] brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Notice, there were 3000 there that elected to have their sins
remitted. So you better believe that the ministers of Satan like
Charles "Quartus" Stanley and the devilish pride engorged Carl
Walther will do just about anything that he can to try to
downplay Acts 2:38. Paul mentions that there will be those that
come along and preach "another gospel."
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Paul also didn't leave us in ignorance that when Satan's
ministers come, they come masquerading as "ministers of
righteousness", as smooth talking false preachers saying "Just
claim belief and you are saved."
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.
It is the job of the false preachers like Charles "Quartus"
Stanley and the devilish pride engorged Carl Walther to cause YOU
to be among those that don't obey Acts 2:38.
II Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
II Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them
that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus
Christ:
Notice that there are TWO groups mentioned in verse 8, those that
don't know God, AND those that know him BUT REFUSE TO OBEY HIM.
II Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of
his power;
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Water Baptism in Jesus name remits sins BECAUSE of Jesus finished
work on the cross. It is the re-birth of water (see John 3:5).
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into
Christ have put on Christ.
The devil's accursed servants like Charles "Quartus" Stanley
don't want you to "put on Christ". They want you to reject Jesus
name baptism. Is the man in the pulpit of your church just there
to soothe you into hell? Is your preacher stressing the URGENCY
of obeying the Bible or is he/she/it selling a fable of a false
grace that ignores obedience to the Bible.
II Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
II Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the
truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Is your preacher preaching Acts 2:38, or soothing fables like the
malicious and devilish trash "Quartus" or the filthy, pride
engorged, deceiver Carl Walther?
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
