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User: "Not-easily-duped"
Date: 01 Apr 2004 08:57:17 AM
Object: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<1ojm60l50ct4ieinpr7sqo7h2bf0rco8os@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?

Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15
.

User: "Weatherwax"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 01 Apr 2004 04:35:05 PM
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in
< CLIP >

Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15

There are numerous inconsistencies between Paul's letter to the
Galatians and Acts. In Galatians, Paul distances himself from
the apostles, but the author of Acts draws a picture of a close
working relationship between the church at Jerusalem and Paul.
The Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 is generally identified with the
meeting described by Paul in Galatians 2. But Paul insist that
the meeting was on his second visit to Jerusalem after his
conversion. But, according to Acts, the Jerusalem Council was
on Paul's third visit, the second visit being recorded in Acts
11:30.
In Galatians, Paul describes the meeting as being private between
himself and certain leaders. But Acts 15 describes the Jerusalem
Council as open.
Then, the council's letter in Acts 15 states that it was being
delivered by Judas and Silas who were accompanying Barnabas and
Paul back to Antioch. However, Paul never makes any mention of
this letter, even in 1 Corinthians 8 where Paul is talking about
eating food sacrificed to idols. And in Acts 21:25 James tells
Paul about the letter as if Paul knew nothing about it.
Some authorities have suggested that the meeting in Galatians 2
took place on the occasion of Acts 11:30, but that visit can be
dated at the beginning of the famine which can be accurately
dated to be from 45-48 c.e. But, if this visit was fourteen
years after Paul's first visit to Jerusalem, and his first visit
was three years after his conversion, then he converted in 28
c.e. But that is earliar than most estimates of the crucifixion.
These facts together with other inconsistencies between Galations
and Acts reveals that there is not very much we can say with
certainty about the early Christians.
--
Wax
.

User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 01 Apr 2004 12:21:06 PM
(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.

Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?

Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15

Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 03 Apr 2004 02:25:05 PM
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<27no60l6p1hjb70a2rl5k13achhhc3hevn@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?

What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 03 Apr 2004 02:37:40 PM
(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.

Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?

Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15

Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?

What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.

You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 04 Apr 2004 03:20:06 PM
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<428u609f1rf9vcelfcja0jia2vf2pqssh7@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?


What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.


You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...

I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 05 Apr 2004 01:40:37 PM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<428u609f1rf9vcelfcja0jia2vf2pqssh7@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?


What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.


You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...


I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly

===>And he would have lost his hold on his Paganized Christos Cult???
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 06 Apr 2004 09:37:09 AM
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<4071A825.7914E6E7@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<428u609f1rf9vcelfcja0jia2vf2pqssh7@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?


What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.


You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...


I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly


===>And he would have lost his hold on his Paganized Christos Cult???

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 06 Apr 2004 11:08:35 AM
(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote

(Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?

What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.

You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...

I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly

===>And he would have lost his hold on his Paganized Christos Cult???

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO
HISTORICAL FIGURE

It's a damn good thing that Paul came around to let the whole world
know it's okay to eat pork and shellfish and other non-kosher foods.
Otherwise, Judaism might have forced everyone to follow its dietary
laws...
Is that how you really think? I was poking fun at you, but maybe
that's what you really believe?
You do realize that there were people living all over the world
as far back as 20,000 BC, don't you? The whole world doesn't
revolve around some god of the OT, and its supposed descendants
who climbed off a boat with 8 people on it, in case you didn't know.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
.

User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 06 Apr 2004 05:42:26 PM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<4071A825.7914E6E7@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<428u609f1rf9vcelfcja0jia2vf2pqssh7@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?


What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.


You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...


I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly


===>And he would have lost his hold on his Paganized Christos Cult???


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

===>Must you always lie?
When did I say that? -- L.
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 08:11:09 AM
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<40733252.48F9610D@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<4071A825.7914E6E7@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<428u609f1rf9vcelfcja0jia2vf2pqssh7@4ax.com>...

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in alt.atheism


It was decided that the gentiles shouldn't be forced to live by the
burden of Moses Law nor the jewish culture.


Forced by who? Who do you think would dare try to enforce some
Jewish religious dietary and other laws on people?


Galatians tried it on their own through the teaching of some
jewish rabbis,hence the letter of Paul.Cf Acts 15


Why would any ancient people even care about Judaism and
its laws, be they dietary or something else? Do you think the whole
earth is supposed to care about the religious dogma of some
ancient tribe of people from the middle east?


What is your fucking point? Never mind you have none.


You didn't bother to answer my questions. No big surprise
there...


I already answered this point:YOU SHOULD NOT ATTACK PAUL.
He took the right decision to bring the issue to the attention of the
Apostles at Jerusalem.If not Paul the Galatians would have been judaized
willingly


===>And he would have lost his hold on his Paganized Christos Cult???


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


===>Must you always lie?
When did I say that? -- L.

SO WHY ARE WE FIGHTING?
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 10:16:02 AM
Not-easily-duped wrote:


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


===>Must you always lie?
When did I say that? -- L.


SO WHY ARE WE FIGHTING?

===>Why are you lying?
.



User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 06 Apr 2004 11:28:41 PM
On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,
(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 08:09:10 AM
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.

What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.
.
User: "Ash"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 12:39:29 PM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.




What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.

Nobody has it. The jesus described in the bible did not exist,
history's silence confirms that
--
#1636
Not BAAWA
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 12:03:01 PM
Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c51emc$j8o$2@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.




What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


Nobody has it. The jesus described in the bible did not exist,
history's silence confirms that

Since sceptics and atheists of the first century never denied his existence
while they had every opportunity to do so in order for them to stop
the spread of Christianity in their land, it is safe to conclude
that Jesus did exist. Christianity was born in a very hostile environment.
Hostility from the Jews.
and hostility from the pagans but nothing could conquer it because it is
supernatural
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 05:24:15 PM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c51emc$j8o$2@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.




What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


Nobody has it. The jesus described in the bible did not exist,
history's silence confirms that


Since sceptics and atheists of the first century never denied his existence
while they had every opportunity to do so in order for them to stop
the spread of Christianity in their land, it is safe to conclude
that Jesus did exist.

===>That is so ignorant!
Did they need to "deny the existence" of the other savior gods
people were worshiping?
Osiris, Attis, Dionysus, Bacchus, and, of course the most worshipped
of all at the time: MITHRAS, whose attributes Christianity simply
trasferred to its CHRISTOS.

Christianity was born in a very hostile environment.

===>Really?
If the environment was so "hostile", how did it become the
only authorized state religion of the Empire?


Hostility from the Jews.
and hostility from the pagans but nothing could conquer it because it is
supernatural

===>RIDICULOUS!
.


User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 03:51:01 PM
Ash wrote:

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:


Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE


Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.




What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


Nobody has it. The jesus described in the bible did not exist,
history's silence confirms that

===>Perhaps he was not easily duped, but they obviously got him!
.


User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 10:15:17 AM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.


What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.

===>All the tools available to all the world's scholars have
NOT been able to PROVE it!
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 09:49:13 AM
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<40741B05.2F934B2F@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.


What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


===>All the tools available to all the world's scholars have
NOT been able to PROVE it!

You fancy yourself as a scholar or do you think that reading some Scholars
makes you one? Schalars are not infaillible
.
User: "Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 10:41:16 AM
(Not-easily-duped) astounded us with:
news:bbba7302.0404080649.20295939@posting.google.com:
Schalars are not infaillible


--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 03:46:43 PM
"Phÿltêr" wrote:

Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) astounded us with:
news:bbba7302.0404080649.20295939@posting.google.com:

Schalars are not infaillible

===>Misspelled scalars.
.


User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 03:17:01 PM
Not-easily-duped wrote:

Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<40741B05.2F934B2F@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.


What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


===>All the tools available to all the world's scholars have
NOT been able to PROVE it!


You fancy yourself as a scholar or do you think that reading some Scholars
makes you one? Schalars are not infaillible

===>What a conceited idiot you are!
So, you think YOU "investigative tool to see the proofs" are superior to
all the tools available to all the scholars of the world???
.
User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 10 Apr 2004 02:03:48 PM
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<4075B33D.EE5A9E1D@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message news:<40741B05.2F934B2F@Nothing_But_The.Truth>...

Not-easily-duped wrote:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<73o6709d4r737uaqf6oi96gqsv72as57cd@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2004 07:37:09 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Provide us with the purified and original version then. What is it?
and tell us how this helps your case AS YOU SAID JESUS IS NO HISTORICAL
FIGURE

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.


What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.


===>All the tools available to all the world's scholars have
NOT been able to PROVE it!


You fancy yourself as a scholar or do you think that reading some Scholars
makes you one? Schalars are not infaillible


===>What a conceited idiot you are!
So, you think YOU "investigative tool to see the proofs" are superior to
all the tools available to all the scholars of the world???

I spoke to Jesus voice to voice regarding the Israelites and Arabs conflict
and how it is connected to Deut 18:15 which also predicted Arabs
political future through Muhammad. Your scholars will never and will always
be doing a guess work.
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AND OUR LORD SAID,THEY MUST LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER.
And our Lord softned his voice and called out his name JEEESUUUS
and it was a very wonderful bright morning at Buckhead Atlanta Georgia.
So I said I O Lord I knew He's got to be you.
Who else can display such a mystery and power?
Can Darwin do this?He could just fall down and bust his head on the ground
and his belly shall lay open and his brain scattered everywhere.
and his followers shall come and screamed," Master are you ok?"
"We thought you were immortal but we were wrong. where is the missing link?
Is it in your belly or is it in your brain?
But our Divine Master opening his lovely mouth expounded on Moses and explained
the correct reading of his text and OUR LORD RULES THE UNIVERSE THOUGH
the sons of monkeys may not like it.
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User: "Weatherwax"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 10 Apr 2004 05:52:11 PM
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in

I spoke to Jesus voice to voice regarding the Israelites
and Arabs conflict and how it is connected to Deut 18:15
which also predicted Arabs political future through
Muhammad. Your scholars will never and will always
be doing a guess work.

Well, I spoke to Scooby-Doo, and he said that you are full of
*****.
--
Wax
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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 07 Apr 2004 11:12:29 PM
On 7 Apr 2004 06:09:10 -0700,
(Dopey) wrote:

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.

What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.

If something requires a 5 cent secret decoder ring, it is not proof.
You are really whoring for attention, right?
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User: "Not-easily-duped"

Title: Re: Does jesus exist? -- DELUSION 08 Apr 2004 11:43:53 AM
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<sfc9701ioh0s57ilitjfc5f3j4e27hf7u7@4ax.com>...

On 7 Apr 2004 06:09:10 -0700,

(Dopey) wrote:

Quit so: jesus is no historical figure. Care to proof he was? Should
be easy enough. If he was a historical figure.


What you are lacking is the investigative tool to see the proofs.
I am sorry I can not give you what you don't have.

If something requires a 5 cent secret decoder ring, it is not proof.

You are really whoring for attention, right?

Nothing is a proof for you. Even your dirty ***** is no proof that you can
take a *****
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