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Again, pat answers from modern hypocritical Christianity. If you have
repented of ALL sin, stopped sinning, purified yourself, sought and
attained the righteousness of God and obeyed His every word, to be
sinless and blameless, then yes you have been washed in the blood and
made white as snow.
No Dore, had he done all that, there would be *nothing* to be washed away
by the blood, as he would *already* be white as snow, by his *own works*
making *useless* and *needless* Christ's sacrifice
So you are saying...
Readers, what you bet she gets it wrong, which is usually what happens when
someone tries to re-interpret what you say...
that the sacrifice of 2000 years ago, gives you free reign to continue
sinning and being NO different than the wicked,
I was right ! No, Dore, I didn't say that at all....And Jesus knew their
thoughts, but Dore makes guesses !
We still face the results of our actions, be they good or bad, we just don't
get sent to an eternal hell, there are many such texts, but for an example
see 1 Cor.3:11-15
hurting and displeasing God as much as you want, so that you have to be
constantly repenting, constantly being forgiven, otherwise the cross has
no affect?
When someone truly accepts Christ as their Lord and saviour their 'want tos'
change and they want to live as Christ taught that they should, and will try
their best to do so, (not because we are any longer afraid of going to hell,
but because we love Christ for His saving grace) but as we are sinners, we
will often fail, and fall into temptations, it is a fact of our human nature
having righteousness which is like filthy rags... So we find ourselves
continually asking for forgiveness, yes.
And if we think we have no sins, we are either fooling / lying to ourselves,
or are not aware of some wrong doing, knowing this, we also often pray for
forgiveness for our unknown sins, and ask that our sins be revealed to us
that we can attempt to correct our wrongdoings.
And no Dore, once we truly accept Christ as our saviour, evidenced by our
changed lifestyle due to changed want tos, Christ's bloodcovering becomes
forever effective
The fact is, BY constantly sinning, YOU make the cross worthless and
needless,
No Dore, it is our need of the cross, because of our undefeatable human
nature which makes the cross valuable, because without it, *no one* will be
saved.
as if it never happened at all. Do you actually think that while you are
still being just as evil and wicked and sinful as SATAN is, that you are
white as snow and worthy to enter into the kingdom of God, because you
CLAIM to believe in the cross?
Satan doesn't want to serve God or Christ, such is the fact you are missing,
God doesn't judge the outside appearance, He judges the heart.
What nonsense. You hypocrites will never be saved,
Dore, we are all "hypocrites" we both know, and teach what is right, but
fail to live up to what we teach.
because you take the cross for granted and know nothing about it's purpose
and plan.
Rev.12:9-11, through ignorance you falsely accuse me, I never take the cross
for granted, I know that I can never save myself, only Christ through His
sacrifice for me, can save me.
BECAUSE of the cross is the ONLY way that you can have the opportunity to
repent and be forgiven and washed clean, and the ONLY way to STAY clean
and enter into the kingdom of God is to STOP SINNING.
Two things, one because of our sinful human nature, the only way such could
be accomplished is if we are as blessed as the theif on the cross, accepting
Christ just before we die, and thus won't be around long enough to screw up
Two; what you have said above, again because of the human condition the
cross is to save us from, would, if it were true (and thank God that you are
dead wrong) would make the cross of non-effect.
Why do you take the cross and God for granted?
I don't, so your question only demonstrates that, unlike Christ, you do not
know my thoughts
Oh how often do you prove that you aren't who you claim to be !
Why do you think that your choosing evil and sin constantly is desired and
acceptable in the sight of God?
Again you screw up, I not only do not choose evil, I try to avoid it ! So
your question doesn't apply to me.
God doesn't even want to look upon sin, such is why when Christ took the sin
of the world on the cross He turn His back on Christ, causing Christ to ask
"Father Father why have you forsaken me ?"
Why don't you care about God, about His feelings, about His heart?
Again, she doesn't know my thoughts, I care very deeply about His feelings,
and His heart !
Ever wonder why He would not honor your prophecy of my death those many
years ago ? God and I love each other very much !
Do you really think that hurting him over and over again with your sins,
will get you INTO heaven?
If it wasn't for Christ, that would have been the very thing which would
keep me out of Heaven, where my wife is ! He has let me know that she is now
one of His angels, by letting her visit me and tell me all about it.
She too depended on Christ for her salvation, knowing that she could never
earn it.
She went to be with our Lord last July.
Why do you want to crucify me over and over again, with your sins, as if
once was insufficient?
ROFWL, no one is crucifying you, at least not on some cross. Now as for
'crucifying' your posts in the newsgroups ? I guess because you keep just
asking for it ! Must be a complex of some kind.
As for Christ Himself, with God there is no such thing as time, there is no
need for Christ to be hung on the cross everytime a sin is committed, that
one time on the cross covered all sins, for all time, past, present, and
future.
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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