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"Pastor Frank" |
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27 Nov 2005 03:08:45 PM |
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Re: Double Standards |
"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well agree
with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
27 Nov 2005 07:11:12 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
As an atheist I think I am better qualified to define atheism than Religious
types who
flog atheism.
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just the
ones you erroneously select.
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
27 Nov 2005 07:15:18 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
As an atheist I think I am better qualified to define atheism than
Religious types who
flog atheism.
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Did I call your name dog?
You hate God.
Evidenced by you being the first one to respond in a religious newsgroup.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 11:26:01 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
As an atheist I think I am better qualified to define atheism than
Religious types who
flog atheism.
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Did I call your name dog?
You hate God.
Evidenced by you being the first one to respond in a religious newsgroup.
Richard you seem to be something of a stubborn fool.
when will you get it into your head that we do not hate your god.
your god does not exist therefore we cannot hate it
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| User: "Gary Eickmeier" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
28 Nov 2005 01:11:59 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
Did I call your name dog?
You hate God.
Evidenced by you being the first one to respond in a religious newsgroup.
Is this like someone who doesn't believe in Santa Claus being accused of
hating Santa? How can you hate something if you don't even believe it
exists?
Gary Eickmeier
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 03:47:37 AM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Are you delusionary? Our museums and libraries are full of gods both
concrete and abstract. Having your thumbs in your ears and your fingers over
your eyes, shouting "there ain't no gods", doesn't alter the facts. LOL
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| User: "Jacques Pelletier" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 05:58:16 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:47:37 +0000, Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:DMsif.11679$KP1.4887@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Are you delusionary? Our museums and libraries are full of gods both
concrete and abstract. Having your thumbs in your ears and your fingers
over your eyes, shouting "there ain't no gods", doesn't alter the facts.
LOL
I think you're saying essentially the same thing as atheists: they don't
deny there are "gods" in our museums and libraries as you say, because
these are man made "gods" (representations).
When atheists say there ain't no gods, they're refering to the original,
not the representation.
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JP
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 11:27:02 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:DMsif.11679$KP1.4887@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Are you delusionary? Our museums and libraries are full of gods both
concrete and abstract. Having your thumbs in your ears and your fingers over
your eyes, shouting "there ain't no gods", doesn't alter the facts. LOL
Frank you become more and more narrow minded as the weeks wear on
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
02 Dec 2005 05:03:13 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:DMsif.11679$KP1.4887@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Atheism is not believing in the existence of gods - ANY GODS - not just
the ones you erroneously select.
Are you delusionary? Our museums and libraries are full of gods both
concrete and abstract. Having your thumbs in your ears and your fingers
over
your eyes, shouting "there ain't no gods", doesn't alter the facts. LOL
Frank you become more and more narrow minded as the weeks wear on
LOL Another downer? You never run out of those, don't you? But then,
it's the sole activity of atheists to diminish. One wonders why. Are
atheists so short of self-esteem, that they have to push others down in
order to gain a little of it. "narrow-minded" indeed!!!!!!
We Christians don't need to esteem ourselves, for we are the progeny of
almighty God, His beloved princes of the realm and we have God-esteem
aplenty. Hallelujah to His glorious name!!!!!!!!
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
27 Nov 2005 07:31:38 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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As an atheist I think I am better qualified to define atheism than
Religious types who
flog atheism.
Gee, does that work both ways?
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
28 Nov 2005 08:53:50 AM |
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In article <86tif.43450$2k5.27058@dukeread09>, "Bill Gamelson"
<bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote:
-"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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-> As an atheist I think I am better qualified to define atheism than
-> Religious types who
-> flog atheism.
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-Gee, does that work both ways?
Are you one who claims to be a Christian?
What did Jesus say?
--
Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
27 Nov 2005 03:42:08 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
Pastor Frank,
You incorrectly label them atheists.
These are the God-Haters in these Christian newsgroups.
They are no more atheists than you are.
Level the playing field and call them out on that.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 03:47:34 AM |
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ff.11796$ih5.7660@dukeread11...
The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
You incorrectly label them atheists.
Not so. For atheists claim they disbelieve in god(s), but what is god(s)
to them is not God to us. So, no one but they know what it is they
disbelieve in. I'm willing to bet, most don't even know themselves, they
just want to belong to a contrarian group, wailing complaints interminably.
See below.
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints) and
gnashing of teeth (in furious anger and frustration).
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
29 Nov 2005 11:24:02 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ff.11796$ih5.7660@dukeread11...
The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
You incorrectly label them atheists.
Not so. For atheists claim they disbelieve in god(s), but what is god(s)
to them is not God to us. So, no one but they know what it is they
disbelieve in. I'm willing to bet, most don't even know themselves, they
just want to belong to a contrarian group, wailing complaints interminably.
See below.
You Frank are just a small apple in the atheist's pie, since we reject ALL
gods, not just your corner of the world of rampant superstition.
bob
Maybe the fella below is a bit 'over the top' but he was on the right lines.
Cheers
bob
humanist brit.
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head
of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it
wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints) and
gnashing of teeth (in furious anger and frustration).
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
02 Dec 2005 05:03:11 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune
right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We
believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
You incorrectly label them atheists.
Not so. For atheists claim they disbelieve in god(s), but what is
god(s)
to them is not God to us. So, no one but they know what it is they
disbelieve in. I'm willing to bet, most don't even know themselves, they
just want to belong to a contrarian group, wailing complaints
interminably.
See below.
You Frank are just a small apple in the atheist's pie, since we reject ALL
gods, not just your corner of the world of rampant superstition.
We know Bob. Atheists always and only "reject". To reject and deny is
their sole function in life. I bet you will reject this truth also, being
careful to avoid giving the impression you might support or affirm anything
nor anyone. LOL
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
02 Dec 2005 11:43:28 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ff.11796$ih5.7660@dukeread11...
The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune
right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We
believe
and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by
knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as
well
agree with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
You incorrectly label them atheists.
Not so. For atheists claim they disbelieve in god(s), but what is
god(s)
to them is not God to us. So, no one but they know what it is they
disbelieve in. I'm willing to bet, most don't even know themselves, they
just want to belong to a contrarian group, wailing complaints
interminably.
See below.
You Frank are just a small apple in the atheist's pie, since we reject
ALL
gods, not just your corner of the world of rampant superstition.
We know Bob. Atheists always and only "reject". To reject and deny is
their sole function in life. I bet you will reject this truth also, being
careful to avoid giving the impression you might support or affirm
anything nor anyone. LOL
You incorrectly label them atheists.
These are the God-Haters in these Christian newsgroups.
They are no more atheists than you are.
Level the playing field and call them out on that.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
04 Dec 2005 03:14:56 PM |
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D371C.26CC7506@netvigator.com...
You Frank are just a small apple in the atheist's pie, since we reject
ALL gods, not just your corner of the world of rampant superstition.
We know Bob. Atheists always and only "reject". To reject and deny is
their sole function in life. I bet you will reject this truth also, being
careful to avoid giving the impression you might support or affirm
anything nor anyone. LOL
You incorrectly label them atheists.
These are the God-Haters in these Christian newsgroups.
They are no more atheists than you are.
Level the playing field and call them out on that.
Nevertheless, the principle of Christian positivity against atheist
negativity stands. Theists focus on what is good and praiseworthy in need of
emulation, atheists focus on what is wrong, false etc. and in need of
condemnation. The atheist world is what Christ speaks of below.
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints) and
gnashing of teeth (in frustration and impotent rage).
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| User: "bob young" |
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04 Dec 2005 11:25:16 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:Wfakf.626$_y6.1744@news.uswest.net...
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133521391.d7beaca99e80412d5d49d1a32187fa97@fe5.teranews.com...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D371C.26CC7506@netvigator.com...
You Frank are just a small apple in the atheist's pie, since we reject
ALL gods, not just your corner of the world of rampant superstition.
We know Bob. Atheists always and only "reject". To reject and deny is
their sole function in life. I bet you will reject this truth also, being
careful to avoid giving the impression you might support or affirm
anything nor anyone. LOL
You incorrectly label them atheists.
These are the God-Haters in these Christian newsgroups.
They are no more atheists than you are.
Level the playing field and call them out on that.
Nevertheless, the principle of Christian positivity against atheist
negativity stands. Theists focus on what is good and praiseworthy in need of
emulation, atheists focus on what is wrong, false etc. and in need of
condemnation.
You mean like these people 'Honest Frank' ?
"The Bible is not my book nor
Christianity my profession. I
could never give assent to the
long, complicated statements of
Christian dogma."
Abraham Lincoln, American
president (1809-1865).
Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
Aldous Huxley, author "Roots"
Andrew Carnegie, Scottish-born
American industrialist and
philanthropist
Isaac Asimov, Russian-born - American
Ernest Hemingway, American author (1899-1961).
"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been
a necessary evil, but why was it more
evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good
definition of insanity?"
Arthur C. Clarke, author
"It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against
christianity and theism produce hardly
any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the
gradual illumination of men's minds which
follows from the advance of science." [Quoted in How We Believe: The Search
for God in an Age of Science by Michael
Shermer.
Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist (1809-1882).
Ayn Rand, Russian-born author
(1905-1982).
(The Fountainhead)
Benjamin Franklin
Nasty people like these Frank?
Grow UP, PLEASE
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| User: "bob young" |
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29 Nov 2005 11:17:01 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Dennis" <dvickers@fidnet.com> wrote in message
news:Qr6dnZzWfINHMhreRVn-og@fidnet.com...
"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:11Nff.12484$ih5.11158@dukeread11...
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GEsff.27028$0l5.14291@dukeread06...
"ManMadeGod" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ff.11796$ih5.7660@dukeread11...
The fact remains that if you were born into a Hindu family (or
buddist,
or Islamic) you would be singing a completely different tune right
now.
Agreed. That s because their religions are REQUIRED!
What makes you so sure that your cult is real?
Removing the false premise of a "cult", we're not sure. We believe and
we trust. Isn't that amazing?
It is by grace that we are saved through FAITH (not by knowledge).
Does that blow your mind?
Now, what makes YOU so sure that there is no God?
Common Sense.
And a lot of lack thereof.
IHS,
Dennis
Yes. "Sense" is never "common". But since most atheists flog their
redundant disbelief in a god similar to Zeus or Odin, we might as well agree
with them. The god of atheist definition never "exists".
Just as well, don't miss Emmett's final line
Bob
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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01 Dec 2005 05:45:48 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc.. etc. and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
Pastor Frank
"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has".
"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample
underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees
must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God."
- MARTIN LUTHER
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
01 Dec 2005 11:37:19 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc.. etc. and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
Pastor Frank
There is no mention of sacrificing virgins, walking on water, or being revived
after death and floating up into the clouds where we now fly jet aircraft
either.
So What is your point?
If your point is, as it seems in some round about way to be, that good decent
folks with children living a humanitarian life style somehow prove the
existence of your imaginary god, try again.
There are over a billion good people in Mainland China who do just that without
groveling to an imaginary deity.
Have a good pray, I mean 'day', sorry
"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has".
"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample
underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees
must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God."
- MARTIN LUTHER
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
03 Dec 2005 05:57:06 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438FDD32.5FF7A41C@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism
is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above
person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc.. etc.
and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues
are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
There is no mention of sacrificing virgins, walking on water, or being
revived
after death and floating up into the clouds where we now fly jet aircraft
either.
So What is your point?
Non sequitur. I talk of QUALITIES a person can develop and you are
completely off topic.
If your point is, as it seems in some round about way to be, that good
decent
folks with children living a humanitarian life style somehow prove the
existence of your imaginary god, try again.
They do exactly that, for our Christian "God is love" and by living a
humanitarian life-style the prove our God.
There are over a billion good people in Mainland China who do just that
without
groveling to an imaginary deity.
That's another delusion of yours. Chinese believe in their ancestors in
heaven and know, that when they reach heaven, the reputation they gained
living on earth will determine their status in heaven, among their
ancestors. Ask any Chinese whether they can ever be alone and private, and
they will answer: No, my ancestors in heaven watch my every move and hear my
every word wherever I am. I know myself critically observed at all times.
Looks like you beat your wife into silence, so she won't dare to
contradict your atheist belief system, nor you delusions about Chinese
religious practices, or the lack thereof. But then you also dedicated your
whole life to being a trolling gadfly in our pristine Christian NGs without
asking her permission, didn't you?
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints) and
gnashing of teeth (in frustration and impotent rage).
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
04 Dec 2005 04:18:03 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438FDD32.5FF7A41C@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism
is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above
person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc.. etc.
and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues
are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
There is no mention of sacrificing virgins, walking on water, or being
revived
after death and floating up into the clouds where we now fly jet aircraft
either.
So What is your point?
Non sequitur. I talk of QUALITIES a person can develop and you are
completely off topic.
If your point is, as it seems in some round about way to be, that good
decent
folks with children living a humanitarian life style somehow prove the
existence of your imaginary god, try again.
They do exactly that, for our Christian "God is love" and by living a
humanitarian life-style the prove our God.
There are over a billion good people in Mainland China who do just that
without
groveling to an imaginary deity.
That's another delusion of yours. Chinese believe in their ancestors in
heaven and know, that when they reach heaven, the reputation they gained
living on earth will determine their status in heaven, among their
ancestors. Ask any Chinese whether they can ever be alone and private, and
they will answer: No, my ancestors in heaven watch my every move and hear my
every word wherever I am. I know myself critically observed at all times.
Looks like you beat your wife into silence, so she won't dare to
contradict your atheist belief system, nor you delusions about Chinese
religious practices, or the lack thereof. But then you also dedicated your
whole life to being a trolling gadfly in our pristine Christian NGs without
asking her permission, didn't you?
Oh your god is love is it Frank yet you resort to the above revolting and
disgusting diatribe?
You are nothing but a lying twisting bloody fool Frankie. you know very well
that 90% of the Chinese nation are 'non believers in silly superstitious
trash', since they have more sense.
Go you your hell [too bad it is simply a myth for assholes like you.
bob
[Sane] Humanist Brit.
hong kong
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of
magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the
price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent
enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints) and
gnashing of teeth (in frustration and impotent rage).
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
05 Dec 2005 08:59:06 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4392C1DD.2D4B58C9@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438FDD32.5FF7A41C@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the
religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above
person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc..
etc.
and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues
are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
There is no mention of sacrificing virgins, walking on water, or being
revived
after death and floating up into the clouds where we now fly jet
aircraft
either.
So What is your point?
Non sequitur. I talk of QUALITIES a person can develop and you are
completely off topic.
If your point is, as it seems in some round about way to be, that good
decent
folks with children living a humanitarian life style somehow prove the
existence of your imaginary god, try again.
They do exactly that, for our Christian "God is love" and by living a
humanitarian life-style the prove our God.
There are over a billion good people in Mainland China who do just that
without groveling to an imaginary deity.
That's another delusion of yours. Chinese believe in their ancestors
in
heaven and know, that when they reach heaven, the reputation they gained
living on earth will determine their status in heaven, among their
ancestors. Ask any Chinese whether they can ever be alone and private,
and
they will answer: No, my ancestors in heaven watch my every move and hear
my
every word wherever I am. I know myself critically observed at all times.
Looks like you beat your wife into silence, so she won't dare to
contradict your atheist belief system, nor you delusions about Chinese
religious practices, or the lack thereof. But then you also dedicated
your
whole life to being a trolling gadfly in our pristine Christian NGs
without
asking anyone's permission, didn't you?
Oh your god is love is it Frank yet you resort to the above revolting and
disgusting diatribe?
You are nothing but a lying twisting bloody fool Frankie. you know very
well
that 90% of the Chinese nation are 'non believers in silly superstitious
trash', since they have more sense.
Go you your hell [too bad it is simply a myth for assholes like you.
Looks like I tweaked Satan's tail for you to screech such copious ad
hominem, trashing and flaming wildly and at random. But that gives us
Christians reason to sing one of our favourite hymn, titled: I'm so glad
when the devil's mad. LOL
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
06 Dec 2005 03:07:10 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4392C1DD.2D4B58C9@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438FDD32.5FF7A41C@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:438D3556.BB8B2EC5@netvigator.com...
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the
religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
Please don't get married and don't have children, for the above
person
only thinks of his or her own "freedom" to do whatever.... There is no
mention of love and caring, commitment, loyalty and sacrifice etc..
etc.
and
generally being humane and self-effacing. All the above listed virtues
are
primarily those of machines and their processors' logic output.
There is no mention of sacrificing virgins, walking on water, or being
revived
after death and floating up into the clouds where we now fly jet
aircraft
either.
So What is your point?
Non sequitur. I talk of QUALITIES a person can develop and you are
completely off topic.
If your point is, as it seems in some round about way to be, that good
decent
folks with children living a humanitarian life style somehow prove the
existence of your imaginary god, try again.
They do exactly that, for our Christian "God is love" and by living a
humanitarian life-style the prove our God.
There are over a billion good people in Mainland China who do just that
without groveling to an imaginary deity.
That's another delusion of yours. Chinese believe in their ancestors
in
heaven and know, that when they reach heaven, the reputation they gained
living on earth will determine their status in heaven, among their
ancestors. Ask any Chinese whether they can ever be alone and private,
and
they will answer: No, my ancestors in heaven watch my every move and hear
my
every word wherever I am. I know myself critically observed at all times.
Looks like you beat your wife into silence, so she won't dare to
contradict your atheist belief system, nor you delusions about Chinese
religious practices, or the lack thereof. But then you also dedicated
your
whole life to being a trolling gadfly in our pristine Christian NGs
without
asking anyone's permission, didn't you?
Oh your god is love is it Frank yet you resort to the above revolting and
disgusting diatribe?
You are nothing but a lying twisting bloody fool Frankie. you know very
well
that 90% of the Chinese nation are 'non believers in silly superstitious
trash', since they have more sense.
Go you your hell [too bad it is simply a myth for assholes like you.
Looks like I tweaked Satan's tail for you to screech such copious ad
hominem, trashing and flaming wildly and at random. But that gives us
Christians reason to sing one of our favourite hymn, titled: I'm so glad
when the devil's mad. LOL
Laugh on the other side of your face bigot. Decent folks certainly do get
mad when people blatantly lie.
Is their nothing in your 'love' cult against lying?
No response to my earlier post showing up another of your lies,
listing just a few famous atheists.
Guess frankie could not stand the heat so he got out of the kitchen
bob
Humanist Brit.
A theologian is like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which
isn't there - and finding it!
[Anonymous]
For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of
the-not-worth-knowing.
[H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)]
bopbHum,anist brit
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
07 Dec 2005 04:05:18 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43955465.9A28B836@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Looks like I tweaked Satan's tail for you to screech such copious ad
hominem, trashing and flaming wildly and at random. But that gives us
Christians reason to sing one of our favourite hymn, titled: I'm so glad
when the devil's mad. LOL
Laugh on the other side of your face bigot. Decent folks certainly do get
mad when people blatantly lie.
Is their nothing in your 'love' cult against lying?
No response to my earlier post showing up another of your lies,
listing just a few famous atheists.
Guess frankie could not stand the heat so he got out of the kitchen
So now you pull the big "lie" out of your hat, and keep us all guessing
what you are talking about. As you are wont to, you forgot to cite the
evidence of the "lie", for that means you need to tell the truth, and THAT
you cannot do. Satan won't let you.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Double Standards |
07 Dec 2005 11:28:08 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43955465.9A28B836@netvigator.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
Looks like I tweaked Satan's tail for you to screech such copious ad
hominem, trashing and flaming wildly and at random. But that gives us
Christians reason to sing one of our favourite hymn, titled: I'm so glad
when the devil's mad. LOL
Laugh on the other side of your face bigot. Decent folks certainly do get
mad when people blatantly lie.
Is their nothing in your 'love' cult against lying?
No response to my earlier post showing up another of your lies,
listing just a few famous atheists.
Guess frankie could not stand the heat so he got out of the kitchen
So now you pull the big "lie" out of your hat, and keep us all guessing
what you are talking about. As you are wont to, you forgot to cite the
evidence of the "lie", for that means you need to tell the truth, and THAT
you cannot do. Satan won't let you.
I don't believe in boogie men, remember?
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