Religions > Bible > Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10 October 2004
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10 Oct 2004 04:14:35 PM |
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Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10 October 2004 |
Mr John,
The Two Witnesses are 2 Angels of the LORD sir.
Mans pride gets in the way when we begin to feel the power of God.
This earnest man who calls himself Elijah is to prepare the way for the 2
witnesses who prepare the way for the coming of the LORD.
He must repent as I have.
--Shaqad
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"Lester John" <lester1john@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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FW: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10
October
2004
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10 October 2004
Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,
I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM AM NUMBERING YOUR DAYS AS LIKEN YITZHAK RABIN
WHO I ALLOWED HIS DAYS TO BE NUMBERED AS A TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE
PEOPLE BY SIGNING THAT DAMNABLE OSLO ACCORD WITH THAT MURDERER OF MY
PEOPLE, NAMELY YASIR ARAFAT.
NOW YOU PERSIST TO REMOVE THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE OFF THE LAND I
PROMISED TO THEM ALONE AS THEIR ALMIGHTY ELOHIM, TO AGREE TO GIVE
THIS LAND TO THESE MODERN DAY PHILISTINIAN PEOPLE WHO ENGLAND ALLOWED
TO INTRUDE IN MY LAND OF PROMISE TO MY PEOPLE ISRAEL ALONE TO DWELL
SO TO PLEASE THESE PEOPLE OF THIS NEW WORLD ORDER OF WHICH PRESIDENT
GEORGE BUSH REPRESENTS AND HAS YOU AS ANOTHER C.F.R. PUPPET LIKEN
SHIMON PERES, ANOTHER TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE AND AS A
BUSINESS PARTNER TO YASIR ARAFAT.
WELL, BEST BE CAREFUL MR. PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON, FOR AS HE HAD
ONE OF HIS ASSASSINS MURDER YITZHAK RABIN, YOU COULD BE HIS NEXT
VICTIM, ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF YOUR SELLING OUT THE ISRAELITES FOR
YOUR SELF INTEREST AS AN EGOTISTICAL PERSON OF SELF-INTEREST, NOT
CARING FOR THE INTEREST OF THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
WELL, I WILL BRING A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE GOVERNMENT OF
ISRAEL AS SOON AS I ALLOW YOU TO BE REMOVED AS A TRAITOR TO MY PEOPLE
OF ISRAEL AND MORE SO TO I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM WHO GAVE YOU TO BE THE
HEAD OF ISRAEL GOVERNMENT.
SOON YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THESE SO BRAVE SEEMINGLY MEN OF THE
GOVERNMENT OF AMERICA UNDER GEORGE BUSH RUN FOR THEIR UNDERGROUND
SAFETY HAVENS THEY HAVE BUILT FOR THEMSELVES ALONE, LEAVING THE
PEOPLE WHO PAID FOR THESE MASSIVE UNDERGROUND CITIES UNKNOWN TO THEM
TO DIE BY THE MILLIONS WHEN THIS GREAT OBJECT PASSES BETWEEN THE SUN
AND THE EARTH, NAMELY PLANET X OR NIBIRU, WHICH IS JUDGMENT TO THIS
WHOLE EARTH THAT I AM AS THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM TO BRING GREAT
DESTRUCTION UPON THIS EARTH TO A WHOLE EARTH FULL OF REBELLIOUS
PEOPLE LIKEN MR. GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON.
YOU WILL SEE AND HEAR OF THIS MASS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER PEOPLE TO
FLEE TO THEIR BUILT SAFETY HAVENS ALL OVER AMERICA THAT WILL
EVENTUALLY BECOME THEIR TOMBS AS LIKEN THE PHARAOH OF EGYPT DID IN
THE PAST.
OH WHAT A SIGHT TO SEE THE U.N. BUILDING AS OTHER BUILDINGS FALL INTO
THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO NO MORE EVER TO BE SEEN OF THESE EVIL CORRUPT
PEOPLE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
THE ROTHSCHILDS, THE ROCKEFELLERS AND THE BILDERBERGERS ALL GOING
DOWN IN THEIR UNDERGROUND SEEMINGLY SAFETY HAVEN BUT END UP AS THEIR
TOMBS.
DOWN THEY GO ON THEIR WAY TO THE HELL'S FIRE AS EVIL GREEDY CORRUPT
MEN WHO USE PEOPLE LIKEN GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, ARIEL SHARON, TO DO
THEIR DIRTY WORK AS TRAITORS TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
SO BEST BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU GO. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE AWAITING TO DO
WHAT THEY DID TO THAT OTHER TRAITOR, YITZHAK RABIN, BY THAT SENT
ASSASSIN BY YOUR OLD FRIEND SHIMON PERES.
OH, HE WOULD LIKE TO BE PRIME MINISTER AGAIN AS HE WAS AFTER HE HAD
YITZHAK RABIN REMOVED.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
LIKE I HAVE STATED BEFORE, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AS THE KING IN THE
PAST.
DANIEL 5:26
Thus saith the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Elohim Servant Prophet,
Eliyahu the Tishbite
Elijah the Tishbite
PO Box 53702, Main Post Office - Gladstone Street
Limassol CYPRUS 3317
Messages of G-d servant prophet Eliyahu are on internet at:
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http://two-olive-trees.org/
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| User: "Boyd Williamson" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,10 October 2004 |
19 Oct 2004 12:54:00 AM |
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Hey, biblebozos...
Please stop crossposting to alt.guitar. I don't care if you think you're the
second coming of Beezebub, it's spam, it's rude, and not appreciated. Keep
your holyhardons to yourselves.
Mr John,
The Two Witnesses are 2 Angels of the LORD sir.
Mans pride gets in the way when we begin to feel the power of God.
This earnest man who calls himself Elijah is to prepare the way for the 2
witnesses who prepare the way for the coming of the LORD.
He must repent as I have.
--Shaqad
"Lester John" <lester1john@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4169802d.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
FW: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10
October
2004
--------------------------------------------------------------------
10 October 2004
Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,
I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM AM NUMBERING YOUR DAYS AS LIKEN YITZHAK RABIN
WHO I ALLOWED HIS DAYS TO BE NUMBERED AS A TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE
PEOPLE BY SIGNING THAT DAMNABLE OSLO ACCORD WITH THAT MURDERER OF MY
PEOPLE, NAMELY YASIR ARAFAT.
NOW YOU PERSIST TO REMOVE THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE OFF THE LAND I
PROMISED TO THEM ALONE AS THEIR ALMIGHTY ELOHIM, TO AGREE TO GIVE
THIS LAND TO THESE MODERN DAY PHILISTINIAN PEOPLE WHO ENGLAND ALLOWED
TO INTRUDE IN MY LAND OF PROMISE TO MY PEOPLE ISRAEL ALONE TO DWELL
SO TO PLEASE THESE PEOPLE OF THIS NEW WORLD ORDER OF WHICH PRESIDENT
GEORGE BUSH REPRESENTS AND HAS YOU AS ANOTHER C.F.R. PUPPET LIKEN
SHIMON PERES, ANOTHER TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE AND AS A
BUSINESS PARTNER TO YASIR ARAFAT.
WELL, BEST BE CAREFUL MR. PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON, FOR AS HE HAD
ONE OF HIS ASSASSINS MURDER YITZHAK RABIN, YOU COULD BE HIS NEXT
VICTIM, ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF YOUR SELLING OUT THE ISRAELITES FOR
YOUR SELF INTEREST AS AN EGOTISTICAL PERSON OF SELF-INTEREST, NOT
CARING FOR THE INTEREST OF THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
WELL, I WILL BRING A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE GOVERNMENT OF
ISRAEL AS SOON AS I ALLOW YOU TO BE REMOVED AS A TRAITOR TO MY PEOPLE
OF ISRAEL AND MORE SO TO I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM WHO GAVE YOU TO BE THE
HEAD OF ISRAEL GOVERNMENT.
SOON YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THESE SO BRAVE SEEMINGLY MEN OF THE
GOVERNMENT OF AMERICA UNDER GEORGE BUSH RUN FOR THEIR UNDERGROUND
SAFETY HAVENS THEY HAVE BUILT FOR THEMSELVES ALONE, LEAVING THE
PEOPLE WHO PAID FOR THESE MASSIVE UNDERGROUND CITIES UNKNOWN TO THEM
TO DIE BY THE MILLIONS WHEN THIS GREAT OBJECT PASSES BETWEEN THE SUN
AND THE EARTH, NAMELY PLANET X OR NIBIRU, WHICH IS JUDGMENT TO THIS
WHOLE EARTH THAT I AM AS THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM TO BRING GREAT
DESTRUCTION UPON THIS EARTH TO A WHOLE EARTH FULL OF REBELLIOUS
PEOPLE LIKEN MR. GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON.
YOU WILL SEE AND HEAR OF THIS MASS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER PEOPLE TO
FLEE TO THEIR BUILT SAFETY HAVENS ALL OVER AMERICA THAT WILL
EVENTUALLY BECOME THEIR TOMBS AS LIKEN THE PHARAOH OF EGYPT DID IN
THE PAST.
OH WHAT A SIGHT TO SEE THE U.N. BUILDING AS OTHER BUILDINGS FALL INTO
THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO NO MORE EVER TO BE SEEN OF THESE EVIL CORRUPT
PEOPLE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
THE ROTHSCHILDS, THE ROCKEFELLERS AND THE BILDERBERGERS ALL GOING
DOWN IN THEIR UNDERGROUND SEEMINGLY SAFETY HAVEN BUT END UP AS THEIR
TOMBS.
DOWN THEY GO ON THEIR WAY TO THE HELL'S FIRE AS EVIL GREEDY CORRUPT
MEN WHO USE PEOPLE LIKEN GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, ARIEL SHARON, TO DO
THEIR DIRTY WORK AS TRAITORS TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
SO BEST BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU GO. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE AWAITING TO DO
WHAT THEY DID TO THAT OTHER TRAITOR, YITZHAK RABIN, BY THAT SENT
ASSASSIN BY YOUR OLD FRIEND SHIMON PERES.
OH, HE WOULD LIKE TO BE PRIME MINISTER AGAIN AS HE WAS AFTER HE HAD
YITZHAK RABIN REMOVED.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
LIKE I HAVE STATED BEFORE, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AS THE KING IN THE
PAST.
DANIEL 5:26
Thus saith the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Elohim Servant Prophet,
Eliyahu the Tishbite
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| User: "vonroach" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10 October 2004 |
21 Oct 2004 08:17:56 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:54:00 -0500, Boyd Williamson
<zoid@z9design.com> wrote:
Hey, biblebozos...
Please stop crossposting to alt.guitar. I don't care if you think you're the
second coming of Beezebub, it's spam, it's rude, and not appreciated. Keep
your holyhardons to yourselves.
BoyD - It's a deal if you will stop the loud obscene guitar banging
and musical masturbation that is replacing music. Fire and lights,
smoke and mirrors can never take the place of music meant to soothe.
The commercial music world is a farce of jungle drums and poorly
played guitars with electrical amplification required. Your ilk are
promoting gutter taste and deafness. Harsher criticism to follow. (In
writing your next sorry ditty please note that no obscenities are
necessary for coherence, only as an inadequate substitute for any
evidence of education)
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| User: "Boyd Williamson" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,10 October 2004 |
21 Oct 2004 02:58:26 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:54:00 -0500, Boyd Williamson <zoid@z9design.com> wrote:
Hey, biblebozos...
Please stop crossposting to alt.guitar. I don't care if you think you're the
second coming of Beelzebub, it's spam, it's rude, and not appreciated. Keep
your holyhardons to yourselves.
BoyD - It's a deal if you will stop the loud obscene guitar banging and
musical masturbation that is replacing music.
Forget it, pal. No deal. You don't get to tell everyone else what music or
religion they can subscribe to. Musical tastes are subjective, and not
dictated by your bible or delusions of religious grandeur.
Fire and lights, smoke and mirrors can never take the place of music meant to
soothe.
Unless, of course, they are used in a bible story...
The commercial music world is a farce of jungle drums
"Jungle drums?" You mean, as in "black" music? Letting a tendency to
stereotype minority groups slip into your holy rant there? Gee, I'm
impressed.
and poorly played guitars with electrical amplification required.
You must be very frustrated with the number of churches that use them today,
huh?
Your ilk are promoting gutter taste and deafness.
Wow! What a cool name for a band! "Ladies and gentlemen! Give it up for
....ILK!"
Again, "taste" is subjective. That means that it's a little different for
everybody, and we all get to decide for ourselves what we like, a concept
that may be a bit too advanced for you.
As for my hearing, I can still hear up to around 15-16Khz, which ain't too
shabby for someone who is 52 and has been playing rock'n'roll for 40 years.
I don't think I'm the one in this argument who is trying to limit what
others can hear.
Harsher criticism to follow.
No, no! Not that! Not harsher criticism! Please! Have mercy! Allow me to get
on my hands and knees, kiss your holy feet, and humbly beg your forgiveness!
(snigger - snigger - snark)
(In writing your next sorry ditty please note that no obscenities are
necessary for coherence, only as an inadequate substitute for any evidence of
education)
Ahhh! There, you see? You obviously considered my "biblebozos" and
"holyhardons" terms as obscene, but not your own term "musical
masturbation." That would be an example of being "subjective." I encourage
you to continue your education; a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
I think we're making some real progress here!
Now, if you're going to post strictly religious rants, please don't post it
to alt.guitar. It's truly off-topic, and inappropriate here. You may have
noticed that I didn't post my previous "sorry ditty" to alt.guitar.
But if you're going to post more on "The commercial music world is a
farce of jungle drums and poorly played guitars with electrical
amplification required"..."promoting gutter taste and deafness," please
continue! There are undoubtedly many people in this NG that will find it
highly entertaining, on-topic, and worthy of their own opinions.
Zoid
"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed
because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do."
-D. Dale Gulledge
"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it
turns out that God hates all the same people you do."
-Anne Lamott
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so
unlike your Christ."
-Mohandas Gandhi
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself."
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,10 October 2004 |
23 Oct 2004 05:32:14 AM |
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Boyd Williamson wrote:
Again, "taste" is subjective. That means that it's a little different for
everybody, and we all get to decide for ourselves what we like, a concept
that may be a bit too advanced for you.
To talk about "taste" on a guitar newsgroup, a better definition
might make more sense along the lines of a multiple choice test.
(Whoever's) playing was so incredible during that song:
[ ] I cried
[ ] I grinned from ear to ear
[ ] I got out the guitar and started practicing every day for the
next 3 years trying to match it note for note.
Else, if all you guys on alt.guitar are talking about, is background
players, what's the point?
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself."
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
Nah.
Any enjoyment you got out of playing guitar, or listening
to it, you got that from God.
Take a little time every now and then to thank him for it.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Boyd Williamson" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,10 October 2004 |
25 Oct 2004 01:25:50 AM |
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Boyd Williamson wrote:
Again, "taste" is subjective. That means that it's a little different for
everybody, and we all get to decide for ourselves what we like, a concept
that may be a bit too advanced for you.
To talk about "taste" on a guitar newsgroup, a better definition
might make more sense along the lines of a multiple choice test.
(Whoever's) playing was so incredible during that song:
[ ] I cried
[ ] I grinned from ear to ear
[ ] I got out the guitar and started practicing every day for the
next 3 years trying to match it note for note.
Else, if all you guys on alt.guitar are talking about, is background
players, what's the point?
These are descriptions, not definitions. Furthermore, they are YOUR
descriptions, though you apparently think that, because they are yours, they
are definitive. Has it occurred to you that there might be other ways of
looking at things, other than in your rather limited terms?
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself."
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
Nah.
That's the same answer you had to the historical fact that Christians have
often slaughtered other cultures they considered inferior: Muslims, Jews,
American Indians, etc. There are many other books of history than just the
Bible. Human history didn't stop with the book of Jude, and not all of the
future was prophesied in Revelation. You should read some, and find out how
unlike Christ Christians can be.
Any enjoyment you got out of playing guitar, or listening
to it, you got that from God.
I don't think he needs the credit. Though I'll bet you would gladly accept
any royalties due him, on his behalf, of course...
Take a little time every now and then to thank him for it.
Oops! You slipped up there, pal, not capitalizing "him." If you believe in
God's divinity, you're supposed to capitalize "he" or "him" when referring
to "Him," right?
Bit of a Freudian slip there? I think you're really talking about yourself,
and want people to thank YOU for all of God's goodness. You tell yourself
that you're bringing light to the ignorant masses, when all you're really
doing is campaigning for worship yourself, based on books written in ancient
times by people who were doing the very same thing you're doing now.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
If God made it all, then he made sins as well, didn't he? Which means that
he killed Jesus, ultimately for his own pleasure. I'm not buying it, and
neither should anyone else who has one more brain cell than you do.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
If God "got it right," than why were there light, days, evenings and
mornings, when he didn't create the sun and moon until the fourth day? It's
perfectly obvious the true author of Genesis didn't know any better than
anyone else, that the Earth was a round planet, in orbit around the sun, not
the other way around.
Water-firmament-water (gives) "away what the final density
profiles of the planets should appear as?" Proof? The only thing it proves
to me is how desperate you are to convince people that the Bible is 100%
literally correct, which it isn't.
Genesis 1:14: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the
heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for
seasons, and for days, and years..."
"For signs?" Is this biblical proof that astrology is valid science?
Let's move back a bit. Genesis 1:3: "And God said, Let there be light: and
there was light."
God "said?" Why did he say it, and who did he say it to, when there was no
one else around to hear him? What language did he use? It couldn't have been
been King James' English, because that language didn't exist yet. Did he say
it in Hebrew? Greek? Latin? German? Yiddish?
Assuming he did say it, by it's very nature, whatever he said only exists
for our ears today to hear and understand by virtue of interpretations
through the years, performed by mere mortal human beings. Now, you can
probably quote me chapter and verse that the Bible was written "by
inspiration of God" and that the original authors were thus allowed to write
God's words and thoughts perfectly.
But where in the Bible does it say that all the subsequent translations
would be perfect?
So, it is indisputably correct that God did not, in fact, literally say "Let
there be light." The best you can do is to say that he said something that
we would interpret today as "Let there be light." And that inevitably makes
the Bible SUBJECTIVE; open to interpretation.
MY interpretation, no more or less blessed by God than anyone else's, is
that Moses created God in HIS image, and attributed very human features to
him, in order to be palatable to Moses' fellow human beings at the time.
It was unthinkable at that time that any ruler could possibly be anything
other than male, so that's how Moses wrote it.
It was also unthinkable that the earth rotated around the sun, so the sun
rotating around the earth is how Moses wrote it.
And it was unthinkable at the time that astrology wasn't a valid science, so
that's how Moses wrote it.
(No, I don't have any proof that Moses actually wrote the five "Books of
Moses," but according to the story, he was raised by Egyptian royalty, when
practically all the other Jews around him were slaves, so I'm thinking that
he was, at the very least, one of a select few that had the necessary
literary skills. Close enough to use his name metaphorically, I think.)
And I haven't gone any farther than King James' Genesis 1:20 here. How
perfect is your Bible? Would you like to go on?
"The information is simply my opinion based on how I perceive the content
discussed. Anyone reading such should use their own judgment as to whether
or not the information has any value to them."
Indeed! "Proof" itself is an entirely subjective term. Something is only
proven when someone is convinced, and not by any amount of evidence. Your
"proof" only convinces you in this case. It is therefore, more correctly
described as opinion, and by no means defined, as "proof."
Please stop cross posting to alt.guitar. If you wish to continue this
discussion with me, you may email me directly. I don't read bible
newsgroups; too many people there who have been brainwashed by their parents
into believing that all the world's answers are contained in the dogma
surrounding subjective interpretations of fanciful texts that are thousands
of years old.
These texts and their concepts allow themselves to be neither corrected nor
improved upon. They consider evolution to be impossible, not only within the
context of how the universe came to be, but in that nothing worthwhile to
humanity has ever been learned since they were written.
Zoid
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,10 October 2004 |
30 Oct 2004 12:38:38 AM |
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Boyd Williamson wrote:
Boyd Williamson wrote:
Again, "taste" is subjective. That means that it's a little different for
everybody, and we all get to decide for ourselves what we like, a concept
that may be a bit too advanced for you.
To talk about "taste" on a guitar newsgroup, a better definition
might make more sense along the lines of a multiple choice test.
(Whoever's) playing was so incredible during that song:
[ ] I cried
[ ] I grinned from ear to ear
[ ] I got out the guitar and started practicing every day for the
next 3 years trying to match it note for note.
Else, if all you guys on alt.guitar are talking about, is background
players, what's the point?
These are descriptions, not definitions. Furthermore, they are YOUR
descriptions, though you apparently think that, because they are yours, they
are definitive. Has it occurred to you that there might be other ways of
looking at things, other than in your rather limited terms?
Ya, but in all the time playing with guitar players, they tended
to be about the same. They either really liked the song they're
practicing, or it was just background stuff... and who would show up
on a guitar newsgroup to talk about background playing?
???
So given that, you'd have to be talking about the best songs
and best players... unless you're a wannabe player and haven't
figured it out yet.
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself."
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
Nah.
That's the same answer you had to the historical fact that Christians have
often slaughtered other cultures they considered inferior: Muslims, Jews,
American Indians, etc.
I think Muslims bring it on themselves. You can see Muslim's DAILY,
today, hacking off the heads of innocent people, they've been taught
to do that... and their prime victems are Jews and Christians.
What did you expect?
There are many other books of history than just the
Bible. Human history didn't stop with the book of Jude, and not all of the
future was prophesied in Revelation. You should read some, and find out how
unlike Christ Christians can be.
I never said everyone was perfect.
You're I guess, claiming that if someone is Christian, that
they "must" be perfect. Jesus didn't say that, he said that
there is no one good but God.
You apparently agree with him.
Any enjoyment you got out of playing guitar, or listening
to it, you got that from God.
I don't think he needs the credit. Though I'll bet you would gladly accept
any royalties due him, on his behalf, of course...
I'm happy when God gets credit for what he did. He deserves it,
he's God, he's the creator of it all.
Take a little time every now and then to thank him for it.
Oops! You slipped up there, pal, not capitalizing "him." If you believe in
God's divinity, you're supposed to capitalize "he" or "him" when referring
to "Him," right?
Is God's name "Him"???
Bit of a Freudian slip there? I think you're really talking about yourself,
and want people to thank YOU for all of God's goodness. You tell yourself
that you're bringing light to the ignorant masses, when all you're really
doing is campaigning for worship yourself, based on books written in ancient
times by people who were doing the very same thing you're doing now.
God's own words prove he is the source of his creation.
You not believing him, that is your choice, but you're really
missing out if you ignore what he's said.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
If God made it all, then he made sins as well, didn't he? Which means that
he killed Jesus, ultimately for his own pleasure. I'm not buying it, and
neither should anyone else who has one more brain cell than you do.
God defined what is good, in doing so, he's also
defined what is evil in that it's not good.
God told them the messiah would die and sins would end
WHEN he showed up, even told them WHEN Jesus would show
up and said THEY wouldn't believe him... said it several
times too, over CENTURIES.
How is it that God could know it, tell them, and they
STILL did what he said they'd do?
God knew, they didn't.
God said it... but you ignore it.
If God wants you to know, he'll draw you to what he said.
If God doesn't want you to know... oh well.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
If God "got it right," than why were there light, days, evenings and
mornings, when he didn't create the sun and moon until the fourth day? It's
perfectly obvious the true author of Genesis didn't know any better than
anyone else, that the Earth was a round planet, in orbit around the sun, not
the other way around.
Day 1 is a LONG period of time.
At the start of the big bang... it's DARK... understand?
At the start of stars forming... it's light... understand?
That's day 1 in a nutshell.
Day 2 continues... it matches as well... billions of years,
and God even told them HOW he formed our solar system, told
them in Genesis, Job, Ezekiel and Revelation.
The Genesis 1 account has been detailed and matches
the TIMING, TERMS and PHRASES of the science account:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/genesis.htm
Even so, science admits they still don't know how the
solar system formed. They have the data, but they don't
have the understanding.
That's going on today, even now... you're missing out guy.
God was right all along.
Water-firmament-water (gives) "away what the final density
profiles of the planets should appear as?" Proof? The only thing it proves
to me is how desperate you are to convince people that the Bible is 100%
literally correct, which it isn't.
It is.
When you eventually find that they admit there's an exploding out RING
from planet forming stars... you will then have confirmation that God
was right all along... from them.
God already said how he did it.... science is catching up.
Genesis 1:14: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the
heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for
seasons, and for days, and years..."
"For signs?" Is this biblical proof that astrology is valid science?
God described pillars of smoke in the heavens... they've seen that
in deep space photos.
God said at the foundations of the earth that it's as the womb
waters gushing out, and the DUST CLOUD... guess what... that's
what science says too.
Look up DUST DISK... science says it... God said there were
bands and openings there... there are... look up water and
such in stars... "waters" are the elements being formed in stars.
You're missing out guy... God was right in Genesis, Job,
Ezekiel and Revelation.
Let's move back a bit. Genesis 1:3: "And God said, Let there be light: and
there was light."
Big bang.
God "said?" Why did he say it, and who did he say it to, when there was no
one else around to hear him? What language did he use? It couldn't have been
been King James' English, because that language didn't exist yet. Did he say
it in Hebrew? Greek? Latin? German? Yiddish?
God is a SPIRIT, not physical... ENERGY... an extremely high
frequency spectra of energy. God saying it into being, he's
putting his ENERGY into forming MATTER.
Energy to matter conversion is well known.
God said it, and a universe formed.
Assuming he did say it, by it's very nature, whatever he said only exists
for our ears today to hear and understand by virtue of interpretations
through the years, performed by mere mortal human beings. Now, you can
probably quote me chapter and verse that the Bible was written "by
inspiration of God" and that the original authors were thus allowed to write
God's words and thoughts perfectly.
Look at Job, God told Job that Elihu was WRONG in saying the
"solid glass sky dome"... who else other than God would know that?
???
Everyone else at the time thought there was a solid glass sky
dome at the time, and there's God saying THEY ARE WRONG, that
they didn't understand what God had told them.
God's words made sense, but NOT if you try to attach their
understanding at the time... they didn't know, but God did.
God was telling them that the elements formed in the HOTTEST
process, the beating of elements together, FUSION, to form
the elements. The words God told them, they confused to be
a "solid glass sky dome"... but that's not what he was saying.
The "waters" are those elements God was forming by FUSION.
But where in the Bible does it say that all the subsequent translations
would be perfect?
It doesn't say that.
So, it is indisputably correct that God did not, in fact, literally say "Let
there be light." The best you can do is to say that he said something that
we would interpret today as "Let there be light." And that inevitably makes
the Bible SUBJECTIVE; open to interpretation.
All "big bang" discussions, they're looking at LIGHT to guage it.
What's the issue with God saying "let there be light"???
MY interpretation, no more or less blessed by God than anyone else's, is
that Moses created God in HIS image, and attributed very human features to
him, in order to be palatable to Moses' fellow human beings at the time.
The words God gave Moses, are known present day to be correctly given.
Moses couldn't have known the proper TIMING, PHRASES, and TERMS
for our solar system formation.
It was unthinkable at that time that any ruler could possibly be anything
other than male, so that's how Moses wrote it.
It was also unthinkable that the earth rotated around the sun, so the sun
rotating around the earth is how Moses wrote it.
And it was unthinkable at the time that astrology wasn't a valid science, so
that's how Moses wrote it.
Nah, the words were from God.
(No, I don't have any proof that Moses actually wrote the five "Books of
Moses," but according to the story, he was raised by Egyptian royalty, when
practically all the other Jews around him were slaves, so I'm thinking that
he was, at the very least, one of a select few that had the necessary
literary skills. Close enough to use his name metaphorically, I think.)
And I haven't gone any farther than King James' Genesis 1:20 here. How
perfect is your Bible? Would you like to go on?
Sure, but if you aren't drawn to God, if he isn't drawing
you to him... you're just wasting your time... it's your
time though, feel free... but realize, you are tossing away
FREE forgiveness of sins.
God told Daniel in Dan 9, that sins would end when the messiah
shows up, gets beaten, mutilated and killed... but the catch
is... you have to believe him and do what God said to do.
"The information is simply my opinion based on how I perceive the content
discussed. Anyone reading such should use their own judgment as to whether
or not the information has any value to them."
Indeed! "Proof" itself is an entirely subjective term. Something is only
proven when someone is convinced, and not by any amount of evidence. Your
"proof" only convinces you in this case. It is therefore, more correctly
described as opinion, and by no means defined, as "proof."
You can not prove anything to yourself other than the concept of
you believe alive... all else can be doubted.
It's up to you what you will want to doubt.
Your doubt, is your issue to overcome.
I >>> KNOW <<< God is there. I believe him 100%.
You have doubt to overcome... that's your issue, not mine.
Please stop cross posting to alt.guitar. If you wish to continue this
discussion with me, you may email me directly. I don't read bible
newsgroups; too many people there who have been brainwashed by their parents
into believing that all the world's answers are contained in the dogma
surrounding subjective interpretations of fanciful texts that are thousands
of years old.
You replied... and this is my last post on the stuff.
These texts and their concepts allow themselves to be neither corrected nor
improved upon. They consider evolution to be impossible, not only within the
context of how the universe came to be, but in that nothing worthwhile to
humanity has ever been learned since they were written.
You're missing out on God describing how he made our solar system,
telling people that there's an exploding out firmament RING, that
they haven't stumbled across yet... but God knew it was there
and described that firmament in detail... the DUST CLOUD, the
"waters" gushing out... that it's like a womb... only God would
know what it looks like... they had never seen it... yet he had,
since he's made 'em over and over again.
Enjoy your background guitar strumming.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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You replied... and this is my last post on the stuff.
Thank you.
Zoid
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:25:50 -0500, Boyd Williamson
<zoid@z9design.com> wrote:
==>
==>
==>> Boyd Williamson wrote:
==>>
==>>> Again, "taste" is subjective. That means that it's a little different for
==>>> everybody, and we all get to decide for ourselves what we like, a concept
==>>> that may be a bit too advanced for you.
==>>
==>> To talk about "taste" on a guitar newsgroup, a better definition
==>> might make more sense along the lines of a multiple choice test.
==>>
==>> (Whoever's) playing was so incredible during that song:
==>>
==>> [ ] I cried
==>> [ ] I grinned from ear to ear
==>> [ ] I got out the guitar and started practicing every day for the
==>> next 3 years trying to match it note for note.
==>>
==>> Else, if all you guys on alt.guitar are talking about, is background
==>> players, what's the point?
==>
==>These are descriptions, not definitions. Furthermore, they are YOUR
==>descriptions, though you apparently think that, because they are yours, they
==>are definitive. Has it occurred to you that there might be other ways of
==>looking at things, other than in your rather limited terms?
==>
==>>> "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
==>>> worshipped anything but himself."
==>>> -Sir Richard Francis Burton
==>>
==>> Nah.
==>
==>That's the same answer you had to the historical fact that Christians have
==>often slaughtered other cultures they considered inferior: Muslims, Jews,
==>American Indians, etc. There are many other books of history than just the
==>Bible. Human history didn't stop with the book of Jude, and not all of the
==>future was prophesied in Revelation. You should read some, and find out how
==>unlike Christ Christians can be.
==>
==>> Any enjoyment you got out of playing guitar, or listening
==>> to it, you got that from God.
==>
==>I don't think he needs the credit. Though I'll bet you would gladly accept
==>any royalties due him, on his behalf, of course...
==>
==>> Take a little time every now and then to thank him for it.
==>
==>Oops! You slipped up there, pal, not capitalizing "him." If you believe in
==>God's divinity, you're supposed to capitalize "he" or "him" when referring
==>to "Him," right?
==>
==>Bit of a Freudian slip there? I think you're really talking about yourself,
==>and want people to thank YOU for all of God's goodness. You tell yourself
==>that you're bringing light to the ignorant masses, when all you're really
==>doing is campaigning for worship yourself, based on books written in ancient
==>times by people who were doing the very same thing you're doing now.
==>
==>> God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
==>
==>If God made it all, then he made sins as well, didn't he? Which means that
==>he killed Jesus, ultimately for his own pleasure. I'm not buying it, and
==>neither should anyone else who has one more brain cell than you do.
==>
==>> Proof God described the planet density profile
==>> BEFORE science did:
==>> http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
==>> (see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
==>
==>If God "got it right," than why were there light, days, evenings and
==>mornings, when he didn't create the sun and moon until the fourth day? It's
==>perfectly obvious the true author of Genesis didn't know any better than
==>anyone else, that the Earth was a round planet, in orbit around the sun, not
==>the other way around.
==>
==>Water-firmament-water (gives) "away what the final density
==>profiles of the planets should appear as?" Proof? The only thing it proves
==>to me is how desperate you are to convince people that the Bible is 100%
==>literally correct, which it isn't.
==>
==>Genesis 1:14: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the
==>heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for
==>seasons, and for days, and years..."
==>
==>"For signs?" Is this biblical proof that astrology is valid science?
==>
==>Let's move back a bit. Genesis 1:3: "And God said, Let there be light: and
==>there was light."
==>
==>God "said?" Why did he say it, and who did he say it to, when there was no
==>one else around to hear him? What language did he use? It couldn't have been
==>been King James' English, because that language didn't exist yet. Did he say
==>it in Hebrew? Greek? Latin? German? Yiddish?
==>
==>Assuming he did say it, by it's very nature, whatever he said only exists
==>for our ears today to hear and understand by virtue of interpretations
==>through the years, performed by mere mortal human beings. Now, you can
==>probably quote me chapter and verse that the Bible was written "by
==>inspiration of God" and that the original authors were thus allowed to write
==>God's words and thoughts perfectly.
==>
==>But where in the Bible does it say that all the subsequent translations
==>would be perfect?
==>
==>So, it is indisputably correct that God did not, in fact, literally say "Let
==>there be light." The best you can do is to say that he said something that
==>we would interpret today as "Let there be light." And that inevitably makes
==>the Bible SUBJECTIVE; open to interpretation.
==>
==>MY interpretation, no more or less blessed by God than anyone else's, is
==>that Moses created God in HIS image, and attributed very human features to
==>him, in order to be palatable to Moses' fellow human beings at the time.
==>
==>It was unthinkable at that time that any ruler could possibly be anything
==>other than male, so that's how Moses wrote it.
==>
==>It was also unthinkable that the earth rotated around the sun, so the sun
==>rotating around the earth is how Moses wrote it.
==>
==>And it was unthinkable at the time that astrology wasn't a valid science, so
==>that's how Moses wrote it.
==>
==>(No, I don't have any proof that Moses actually wrote the five "Books of
==>Moses," but according to the story, he was raised by Egyptian royalty, when
==>practically all the other Jews around him were slaves, so I'm thinking that
==>he was, at the very least, one of a select few that had the necessary
==>literary skills. Close enough to use his name metaphorically, I think.)
==>
==>And I haven't gone any farther than King James' Genesis 1:20 here. How
==>perfect is your Bible? Would you like to go on?
==>
==>"The information is simply my opinion based on how I perceive the content
==>discussed. Anyone reading such should use their own judgment as to whether
==>or not the information has any value to them."
==>
==>Indeed! "Proof" itself is an entirely subjective term. Something is only
==>proven when someone is convinced, and not by any amount of evidence. Your
==>"proof" only convinces you in this case. It is therefore, more correctly
==>described as opinion, and by no means defined, as "proof."
==>
==>Please stop cross posting to alt.guitar. If you wish to continue this
==>discussion with me, you may email me directly. I don't read bible
==>newsgroups; too many people there who have been brainwashed by their parents
==>into believing that all the world's answers are contained in the dogma
==>surrounding subjective interpretations of fanciful texts that are thousands
==>of years old.
==>
==>These texts and their concepts allow themselves to be neither corrected nor
==>improved upon. They consider evolution to be impossible, not only within the
==>context of how the universe came to be, but in that nothing worthwhile to
==>humanity has ever been learned since they were written.
==>Zoid
Well said, Zoid. Very well said.
--
It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
there is no ground whatever for supposing it true.
-Bertrand Russell
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10 Oct 2004 05:13:17 PM |
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Ps.. To issue warnings of repentance is to prepare the way. That is all.
"SHAQAD" <shaqad@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2stn3sF1pell1U1@uni-berlin.de...
Mr John,
The Two Witnesses are 2 Angels of the LORD sir.
Mans pride gets in the way when we begin to feel the power of God.
This earnest man who calls himself Elijah is to prepare the way for the 2
witnesses who prepare the way for the coming of the LORD.
He must repent as I have.
--Shaqad
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"Lester John" <lester1john@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4169802d.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
FW: Elijah the Tishbite to Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, 10
October
2004
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10 October 2004
Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon,
I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM AM NUMBERING YOUR DAYS AS LIKEN YITZHAK RABIN
WHO I ALLOWED HIS DAYS TO BE NUMBERED AS A TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE
PEOPLE BY SIGNING THAT DAMNABLE OSLO ACCORD WITH THAT MURDERER OF MY
PEOPLE, NAMELY YASIR ARAFAT.
NOW YOU PERSIST TO REMOVE THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE OFF THE LAND I
PROMISED TO THEM ALONE AS THEIR ALMIGHTY ELOHIM, TO AGREE TO GIVE
THIS LAND TO THESE MODERN DAY PHILISTINIAN PEOPLE WHO ENGLAND ALLOWED
TO INTRUDE IN MY LAND OF PROMISE TO MY PEOPLE ISRAEL ALONE TO DWELL
SO TO PLEASE THESE PEOPLE OF THIS NEW WORLD ORDER OF WHICH PRESIDENT
GEORGE BUSH REPRESENTS AND HAS YOU AS ANOTHER C.F.R. PUPPET LIKEN
SHIMON PERES, ANOTHER TRAITOR TO THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE AND AS A
BUSINESS PARTNER TO YASIR ARAFAT.
WELL, BEST BE CAREFUL MR. PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON, FOR AS HE HAD
ONE OF HIS ASSASSINS MURDER YITZHAK RABIN, YOU COULD BE HIS NEXT
VICTIM, ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF YOUR SELLING OUT THE ISRAELITES FOR
YOUR SELF INTEREST AS AN EGOTISTICAL PERSON OF SELF-INTEREST, NOT
CARING FOR THE INTEREST OF THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
WELL, I WILL BRING A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE GOVERNMENT OF
ISRAEL AS SOON AS I ALLOW YOU TO BE REMOVED AS A TRAITOR TO MY PEOPLE
OF ISRAEL AND MORE SO TO I THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM WHO GAVE YOU TO BE THE
HEAD OF ISRAEL GOVERNMENT.
SOON YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THESE SO BRAVE SEEMINGLY MEN OF THE
GOVERNMENT OF AMERICA UNDER GEORGE BUSH RUN FOR THEIR UNDERGROUND
SAFETY HAVENS THEY HAVE BUILT FOR THEMSELVES ALONE, LEAVING THE
PEOPLE WHO PAID FOR THESE MASSIVE UNDERGROUND CITIES UNKNOWN TO THEM
TO DIE BY THE MILLIONS WHEN THIS GREAT OBJECT PASSES BETWEEN THE SUN
AND THE EARTH, NAMELY PLANET X OR NIBIRU, WHICH IS JUDGMENT TO THIS
WHOLE EARTH THAT I AM AS THE ALMIGHTY ELOHIM TO BRING GREAT
DESTRUCTION UPON THIS EARTH TO A WHOLE EARTH FULL OF REBELLIOUS
PEOPLE LIKEN MR. GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, PRIME MINISTER ARIEL SHARON.
YOU WILL SEE AND HEAR OF THIS MASS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER PEOPLE TO
FLEE TO THEIR BUILT SAFETY HAVENS ALL OVER AMERICA THAT WILL
EVENTUALLY BECOME THEIR TOMBS AS LIKEN THE PHARAOH OF EGYPT DID IN
THE PAST.
OH WHAT A SIGHT TO SEE THE U.N. BUILDING AS OTHER BUILDINGS FALL INTO
THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO NO MORE EVER TO BE SEEN OF THESE EVIL CORRUPT
PEOPLE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
THE ROTHSCHILDS, THE ROCKEFELLERS AND THE BILDERBERGERS ALL GOING
DOWN IN THEIR UNDERGROUND SEEMINGLY SAFETY HAVEN BUT END UP AS THEIR
TOMBS.
DOWN THEY GO ON THEIR WAY TO THE HELL'S FIRE AS EVIL GREEDY CORRUPT
MEN WHO USE PEOPLE LIKEN GEORGE BUSH AND YOU, ARIEL SHARON, TO DO
THEIR DIRTY WORK AS TRAITORS TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
SO BEST BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU GO. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE AWAITING TO DO
WHAT THEY DID TO THAT OTHER TRAITOR, YITZHAK RABIN, BY THAT SENT
ASSASSIN BY YOUR OLD FRIEND SHIMON PERES.
OH, HE WOULD LIKE TO BE PRIME MINISTER AGAIN AS HE WAS AFTER HE HAD
YITZHAK RABIN REMOVED.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
LIKE I HAVE STATED BEFORE, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AS THE KING IN THE
PAST.
DANIEL 5:26
Thus saith the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Elohim Servant Prophet,
Eliyahu the Tishbite
Elijah the Tishbite
PO Box 53702, Main Post Office - Gladstone Street
Limassol CYPRUS 3317
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