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User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"
Date: 06 Feb 2005 08:32:36 AM
Object: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
.

User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 08:34:41 AM
Abomination "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE
Bushie! Forever!!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:421a28cf.43169767@netnews.mchsi.com...

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows


The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.


Yep. That's how the RRR cult works.

No such cult fascist boy.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 09:22:14 AM
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 09:25:57 AM
Bigoted Fascist Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
message
...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:44:08 GMT,
"Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:

Attempt to distract noted.


Another attempt to distract noted.
Glad to see you admit you are nothing more than a DNC TROLL!!!
Cheers TROLL!
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loathsome
agendas against human rights.
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop
antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and
harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 11:43:49 AM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:25:57 GMT,
Bigoted Hatemonger, "Sir Marksman"...
...contributed nothing but another display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 11:47:52 AM
Bigoted Fascist & Hatemonger Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
wrote in
message
...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:44:08 GMT,
"Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:

Attempt to distract noted.


Another attempt to distract noted.
Glad to see you admit you are nothing more than a DNC TROLL!!!
Cheers TROLL!
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loathsome
agendas against human rights.
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop
antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and
harassing other posters, because I have no life!
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop
antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and
harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 12:05:37 PM
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
Bigoted Hatemonger, "Sir Marksman"...
...contributed nothing but another display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 01:18:28 PM
Bigoted Fascist & Hatemonger Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
wrote in
message
...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:44:08 GMT,
"Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:

Attempt to distract noted.


Another attempt to distract noted.
Glad to see you admit you are nothing more than a DNC TROLL!!!
Cheers TROLL!
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loathsome
agendas against human rights.
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 01:53:48 PM
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
Bigoted Hatemonger, "Sir Marksman"...
...contributed nothing but another display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 02:46:44 PM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:53:48 GMT, Bigoted fascist and hatemonger
xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444
days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) got his ***** kicked again in:
Bigoted Fascist & Hatemonger Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
tried and failed to delete my facts:
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loathsome
agendas against human rights.
Cheers Troll!
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
Watch Fascist Hatemonger and Bigot craig chilton antagonize!
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 03:28:48 PM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:46:44 GMT,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
Bigoted Hatemonger, "Sir Marksman"...
...contributed nothing but another display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 03:32:28 PM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:28:48 GMT, Bigoted fascist and hatemonger
xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444
days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) got his ***** kicked again in:
Bigoted Fascist & Hatemonger Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
tried and failed to delete my facts:
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loathsome
agendas against human rights.
Cheers fascist Troll!
---------
Abominations and LIEberals must be exposed!
Funny quote from Bill BaKKKer : I am an abomination and I can't stop antagonizing Sir Marksman!
Another funny quote from Bill BaKKKer: I can't stop SPAMMING and harassing other posters, because I have no life!
Note denial of facts from BaKKKer.
Watch Fascist Hatemonger and Bigot craig chilton antagonize!
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 03:50:09 PM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:32:28 GMT,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
Bigoted Hatemonger, "Sir Marksman"...
...contributed nothing but another display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:18:46 -0600,
"EggNog" wrote:

Evangelical Christian influence grows
The denominations may be different, but their political and
social beliefs aren't.

Yep. That's how the RRR cult works. Unlike most cults, which
recruit people OUT of whatever they are in, the RRR is a uniquely
**transdenominational** cult, which appeals to people who have a
propensity for being hyperconservative loons or were unfortunate
enough to have been born with low IQs and high gullibility levels (and
thus are unable to recognize that the RRR's agendas are CLUELESS
when it comes to having any relevant supporting facts on its side).
And LEAVES them in place, WITHIN their churches, where they
can spread their pollution to other hate-oriented and/or ignorant
congregants who may be in a position to be influenced by them.
That's the FORMULA for the RRR cult's leaders' success, to date.
Hopefully, by now, that has peaked at 6% of professing Christians
(which is equal to 5% of America's overall population, since 83% of
Americans are professing Christians.)
The BAD news is this ---
RRR cult : society :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water
People need to become aware of that, and THWART the RRR's
agendas at every turn.

WASHINGTON -- By most definitions, Jim Fitchuk of St. Joseph,
Mich., is a devoted husband, a good father, a stellar employee and,
most of all, a faithful Christian.

And, as we are about to see, an unconscionable busybody &
control-freak who hasn't the brains (or the degree of being
considerate of others) to mind his own business when it comes to the
exercise of legitimate personal liberties on the part of other people.
As for that "faithful Christian" part -- we'll also see that he is
a DELUDED "cafeteria" one who **disregards** Jesus' command
to His followers that they show love and compassion to their
neighbors... or he wouldn't be trying to trample their rights, which
would impose immense hardship upon millions of them for no good
reason.

It is that final description of him that has propelled Fitchuk and other
evangelical Christians to speak up lately.

Point of clarification: Per the traditional definition of "evan-
gelical" (before some dictionaries diluted it with connotations that
impositional people who disregard human rights could be included),
they are religious people -- usually Christians -- who EVANGELIZE.
I.e., in the case of Christianity, those who spread the Gospel to non-
Christians. Which is well and good, when they are not being obnoxious
or pushy about it. (Or attempting it in OFF-topic newsgroups, as
*you* have recently tried to do, "Eggnog.") But MOST of those who
today call themselves "evangelicals" have LOTS of interest in
poisoning our Constitution, subverting the appellate courts with the
appointment of judges who do NOT put personal liberties FIRST, as
they should always do, when interpreting the Constitution, and
destroying any personal liberties they happen to disagree with.

Evangelicals are of various denominations, but they have
conservative beliefs in common.

Translation: Hateful and control-freakish motives.

Gay marriage is wrong; it sends a bad message to children.

(Yeah. Perish forbid that kids should grow up recognizing that
variations of NORMALCY don't include things OTHER than eye
color, handedness, skin color, etc. Bring 'em up in IGNORANCE.)

Abortion is wrong.

(One of the WORST errors of the RRR cult. Abortion is nothing
more than a harmless and hugely-beneficial REMEDY which has
enabled tens of millions of women, since 1973 in the USA -- and a
BILLION women over any give 18-year-long period, worldwide) to
safely and legally put their lives back on track, NOT be **forced**
to gestate against their will like 2nd-class-citizen **slaves**, and
to preserve and restore their well-being and full range of future
opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. And:
(1) The Bible says **not one word** against abortion,
and defends reproductive-process entities only
*once* -- as PROPERTY. In a passage that
**condones slavery!!**
(2) Human life does NOT begin at fertilization. The Stage
One entities of the human reproductive process (the
gamete stage) are human (adj.), unique, and LIVING
*potential* people, just as the zygote, embryo, and
fetus stages are. And those are being electively
aborted at the rate of more than a **quadrillion** per
DAY, worldwide, while the hypocritical RRR cultists
look the other way and WHINE about the ones they
seek to control at the expense of millions of women.

Hollywood and television producers have gone too far with sex,
violence and profanity.

In THEIR opinion, perhaps. Obviously NOT in the opinion of those
who **enjoy** those movies and TV, and keep furnishing the bucks that
keeps them in production. Any hyperconservative loon who whines about
that has a very clear choice: TVs have V-chips and remotes, and no
one -- to the best of my knowledge -- has ever been seen dragging a
cultist of the RRR, kicking and screaming, into a theater.

"There are crystal clear indicators that we (the United States) are
trending in a bad direction: The rate of illegitimacy, the family structure,
crime," said Fitchuk, 43, and the father of three daughters.

He needs to study those crime stats. Violent crime has been
steadily DECLINING in the USA in recent years. "Illegitimacy" is
the business of the people involved.

"We're just getting worse. It seems that they have to throw in sex
for everything in order to be entertaining. And I really don't see the point
besides just saturating our culture with sex."

Let's invent a time machine and send Fitchuk back to 1928. Then
bring him back to report on how much MORE our culture is "saturated
with sex" than it was then. (CLUE, for him: People LIKE sex. It has
always been an integral part of the culture since ducking stools went
out, and it always will be.)

Fitchuk's views are shared by millions of Michiganians who count
themselves as conservative Christians.

There MAY be that many Michiganders who share those views (or
not), but MOST of them are sensible, fair, and intelligent enough NOT
to seek to interfere in the personal liberties of others. Actiivist
RRR cultists comprise only a mere (but poisonous-to-liberty) 5% of
Americans.

Some experts say more than a quarter of the adult population in
the United States can be considered evangelicals, while seven out
of 10 Americans consistently classify themselves as Christian.

If we're talking about the *corrupted* definition of "evangelicals,"
it's FAR less. See my post entitled:
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS.
I'll refresh that one now in the groups that THIS post will be
reaching. As you read this, it should be on your server in this
group.
<Redundancy with material covered in
the above-referenced post, omitted.>

By Alison Bethel / Detroit News Washington Bureau Chief

http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0502/06/A08-80592.htm

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Sir Marksman"

Title: Re: Evangelical Christian influence grows 06 Feb 2005 03:51:37 PM
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:50:09 GMT, Bigoted fascist and hatemonger
xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,444
days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) got his ***** kicked again in:
Bigoted Fascist & Hatemonger Craig Chilton -- <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
...contributed nothing but another LYING display of
his abject IGNORANCE. Deleted.
Previous post RESTORED, below ---
READERS:
Moronic and trollish bigot, "Craig Chilton was **SO** stupid
that he posted a response to one of MY posts in a DIFFERENT
thread under this inane subject header he created.
Stupid troll is dumber than a sack of hammers.
He's either one of the most DESPERATE of the DNC cult's
lemmings -- or one of the most STUPID. (Probably both. Moronic
tool.)
The GOOD news: Every time he posts, he DEMONSTRATES
the stupidity of the DNC cultists to all who see his idiotic tripe.
And thereby contibutes mor nails in the coffin lid of their loa