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Religions > Bible |
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"Mark Johnson" |
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24 Jun 2003 06:02:19 PM |
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Re: Evolution is the observation |
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Peace.
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Theorem: All numbers are equal.
Choose arbitrary a and b, and let t = a + b.
(a + b)(a - b) = t(a - b)
a^2 - b^2 = ta - tb
a^2 - ta = b^2 - tb
a^2 - ta + (t^2)/4 = b^2 - tb + (t^2)/4
(a - t/2)^2 = (b - t/2)^2
a - t/2 = b - t/2
a = b
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
24 Jun 2003 06:35:48 PM |
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In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
If you are going to assert there was such a thing you need to
specify what you mean. What do you claim happened and what
evidence do you have for it?
--
Matt Silberstein TBC HRL OMM
We are not here to judge other people,
we are just here to be better than they are.
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| User: "Mark Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
25 Jun 2003 12:02:38 AM |
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Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
If you are going to assert there was such a thing you need to
specify what you mean.
But it's . . . in the Bible. That's what we're talking about, here.
The Flood of Noah.
That's . . . the Flood. So when was . . the Flood?
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
25 Jun 2003 07:13:25 AM |
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In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
If you are going to assert there was such a thing you need to
specify what you mean.
But it's . . . in the Bible. That's what we're talking about, here.
The Flood of Noah.
That's . . . the Flood. So when was . . the Flood?
I'll bite, when?
--
Matt Silberstein TBC HRL OMM
We are not here to judge other people,
we are just here to be better than they are.
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| User: "Mark Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 01:13:55 AM |
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Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
If you are going to assert there was such a thing you need to
specify what you mean.
But it's . . . in the Bible. That's what we're talking about, here.
The Flood of Noah.
That's . . . the Flood. So when was . . the Flood?
I'll bite, when?
You say it didn't happen, couldn't have happened, etc. In order to say
that, you ought to know when and where it would have happened - but
didn't. Otherwise - it's just wishful thinking. It's just an
anti-Biblical assertion, because you don't want to trust that
something so bizarre, so cataclysmic, so miraculous, of such Divine
Judgment, could ever have occured, in fact.
Remember - Noah . . . . .
was 600 years old. You don't even mention that . . do you?
And that's truly bizarre.
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 11:06:41 AM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:6k3lfv8uujd9h6dctprcqbmig6u0j4no47@4ax.com...
Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Matt Silberstein <matts2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In alt.religion.christianity I read this message from Mark
Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
If you are going to assert there was such a thing you need to
specify what you mean.
But it's . . . in the Bible. That's what we're talking about, here.
The Flood of Noah.
That's . . . the Flood. So when was . . the Flood?
I'll bite, when?
Johnson: You say it didn't happen, couldn't have happened, etc. In order to
say
that, you ought to know when and where it would have happened - but
didn't.
Tom: This statement will live forever in the irony Hall of Fame. Say what
Johnson?? Did you go to Mr. Doublespeak's school?
Johnson:Otherwise - it's just wishful thinking.
Tom: No, it is a fact.
Johnson: It's just an
anti-Biblical assertion, because you don't want to trust that
something so bizarre, so cataclysmic, so miraculous, of such Divine
Judgment, could ever have occured, in fact.
Tom: Hey, if it occurred God erased all traces of it.
Johnson: Remember - Noah . . .
was 600 years old. You don't even mention that . . do you?
And that's truly bizarre.
Tom: Yeah, that's bizarre all right.
Peace.
Piece.
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
24 Jun 2003 10:40:00 PM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
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| User: "Mark Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 01:15:23 AM |
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David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
---------------------------------------
One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 09:23:51 AM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
Piece
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 05:01:45 PM |
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In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
--
Michael
People who donšt read newspapers are better off than those
who do because it is better to be uninformed than misinformed.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 07:40:49 PM |
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"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101...
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all
means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
Burt: There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't
written by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
Tom: Who did write them, Burt?
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
26 Jun 2003 07:37:59 PM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that an ancient myth
is true. I have no idea if the authors believe their lies or not. There
are no scientific books, let alone peer reviewed articles supporting
this global flood myth.
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
30 Jun 2003 04:31:24 PM |
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In article <dc4nfv0aaq6ifoub3vru5hudmeri77sbq1@4ax.com>,
david@dajensen-family.com wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that an ancient myth
is true. I have no idea if the authors believe their lies or not. There
are no scientific books, let alone peer reviewed articles supporting
this global flood myth.
Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that the ancient
mythology of evolution is true. I have no idea if the authors believe
their lies or not. There are many pseudo- scientific books on evolution,
and a lot of mutual admiration society peer reviewed articles supporting
them.
--
Michael
People who donšt read newspapers are better off than those
who do because it is better to be uninformed than misinformed.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
30 Jun 2003 04:45:56 PM |
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"Michael" <> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-3006031731250001@192.168.1.101...
In article <dc4nfv0aaq6ifoub3vru5hudmeri77sbq1@4ax.com>,
david@dajensen-family.com wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom"
<mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650
years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is,
it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally,
just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all
means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is
using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written
by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
David: Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that an ancient
myth
is true. I have no idea if the authors believe their lies or not. There
are no scientific books, let alone peer reviewed articles supporting
this global flood myth.
Burt: Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that the ancient
mythology of evolution is true. I have no idea if the authors believe
their lies or not. There are many pseudo- scientific books on evolution,
and a lot of mutual admiration society peer reviewed articles supporting
them.
Tom: What's the matter Burt, trying to say something but can't get it out?
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
09 Jul 2003 08:07:22 PM |
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In article <vg1bsn4sj35pc5@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Michael" < > wrote in message
news:mikeburt-3006031731250001@192.168.1.101...
In article <dc4nfv0aaq6ifoub3vru5hudmeri77sbq1@4ax.com>,
david@dajensen-family.com wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom"
<mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com...
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com>
wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650
years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is,
it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally,
just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all
means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is
using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written
by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
David: Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that an ancient
myth
is true. I have no idea if the authors believe their lies or not. There
are no scientific books, let alone peer reviewed articles supporting
this global flood myth.
Burt: Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that the ancient
mythology of evolution is true. I have no idea if the authors believe
their lies or not. There are many pseudo- scientific books on evolution,
and a lot of mutual admiration society peer reviewed articles supporting
them.
Tom: What's the matter Burt, trying to say something but can't get it out?
Yes, several emails suggest that it got out quite nicely, thank you.
--
Michael
People who donšt read newspapers are better off than those
who do because it is better to be uninformed than misinformed.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
30 Jun 2003 05:01:28 PM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-3006031731250001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <dc4nfv0aaq6ifoub3vru5hudmeri77sbq1@4ax.com>,
david@dajensen-family.com wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, (Michael) wrote in
<mikeburt-2606031801450001@192.168.1.101>:
In article <vfm0fnq1j9dr68@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years
before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
Johnson: I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it
couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show. You just rule it
out, altogether. Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
Peace.
Tom: There are no facts for a global flood. If there are, then by all means
please quit running your mouth and show them to us. Your post is using
convoluted logic. Try a different approcah.
There are several books on the subject, of course, they aren't written by
Stephen Gould or Sagan the Pagan.
Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that an ancient myth
is true. I have no idea if the authors believe their lies or not. There
are no scientific books, let alone peer reviewed articles supporting
this global flood myth.
Sure, there are books that persuade the credulous that the ancient
mythology of evolution is true. I have no idea if the authors believe
their lies or not. There are many pseudo- scientific books on evolution,
and a lot of mutual admiration society peer reviewed articles supporting
them.
Your silly parody does not provide any evidence to support the Flood.
Sorry.
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26 Jun 2003 08:24:53 AM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp3lfv4jujlj2n41errihipvp6v69bd7sd@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <bp1jfvc5atbirsbtpeonaildok88icf71m@4ax.com>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote
in <q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com>:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Never.
You love proving me right, doncha?
I didn't realize that you were arguing that there was no Flood.
I said - when was the Flood? You replied - never. That is, it couldn't
have happened, no matter what the facts may show.
You have cause and effect backward, the _facts_ show that it could not
have happened.
You just rule it out, altogether.
The evidence rules it out. I'm the messenger that you won't listen to.
Otherwise - you'd be able to tell me, finally, just
when the Flood occurred, since you say it didn't occur . . then.
The evidence showed that no global flood has happened while humans have
been on this planet.
Let me ask a question equivalent to yours. When did the Invisible Pink
Unicorn create God?
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution is the observation |
25 Jun 2003 02:23:29 AM |
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Mark Johnson <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in
news:q3mhfvooru3ua3sniikg62lvqq75dkhkkm@4ax.com:
Dave Oldridge <doldridgLEAVETHISOUT@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
Yes, like the RECORDED flood of 2900BC that took place 650 years before
Ussher dates Noah.
But when . . was the Flood? What was the year of the Flood?
Depends who you ask. The LXX puts it back around the time of the Black Sea
inundation (5500BC). Ussher puts it a few centuries after the 2900BC
event.
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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