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Date: 28 Nov 2005 02:08:36 AM
Object: Re: Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!
Top posting:
Why do you post this stuff to Christian news groups?
Virtual photons don't exist. Does virtual reality in a computer really exist
outside of the computer?
Actually all of electromagnetic theory can be reduced to just magnetism. The
electron should never have been invented. An electron is really a south pole
magnetic unit.
Electromagnetic theory will always have paradoxes and inconsistencies until
it is reduced to just magnetism.
A man in the 1920s named Edward Leedskalnin did very detailed experiments
with magnets, and current. His findings show electricity is all magnetism.
He also built a small castle of coral stones in Florida, coral castle, which
scientist could not figure out how he did it. He lifted and moved stones
weighing as much as 28 tons with equipment that could only handle 10 tons.
People spying on him with binoculars signed sworn affidavits that they saw
stones weighing tons floating in the air. Leedskalnin and coral castle were
featured in "IN SEARCH OF" with Leonard Nimoy as an unexplained mystery. He
didn't say how he did it. I have an idea how he did it.
Coral castle now sits in Florida a tourist attraction. www.coralcastle.com
I'll summarize what he found out by experimenting with magnets. Just
like physics considers an electron or proton to be the smallest unit of
electric charge, there is a smallest unit of magnetism which he calls north
and south pole individual magnets. They are free to flow in metals, in the
air and in other things. The iron shavings around a bar magnet trace their
path. From the North end of a magnet, there are many north pole magnets
flowing out and going around the outside of the magnet and coming into the
south pole of the magnet and then running in the metal and returning to the
North pole. From the South pole of the magnet, there are many south pole
magnets flowing out and going around the outside of the magnet and going
into the North pole and flowing through the metal and returing to the South
pole. Some flow straight out from the poles and don't return, but are
replaced by others from the air.
Experimenting with small magnets hung over a wire carring a current he
concludes this: Electricity is really north pole magnets flowing out from
the + terminal of a battery and flowing through the wire with a right hand
twist and there is an opposite flow of south pole magnets coming out of
the - terminal of a battery and flowing in the wire with a right hand twist.
Modern electronics developed with the theoretical notion of a positive
current flowing through a wire, but this is only a way of thinking about
electricity to describe and quantify its effects. There is no real positive
current flowing through the wire, because protons will not flow through a
wire like electricity. Free electrons in the wire only have a slow drift
speed, so negative charge cannot flow through a wire like electricity
either. This idea of opposing north and south pole magnetic units flowing
through a wire might be what is really happening in an electric current. He
experimentally shows that this can explain the magnetic effects that
electricity produces by its actions on nearby magnets. Too many of these
magnetic units being made to flow through a place that has high resistance
produces heat, so it can also explain the heat effects of electricity.
I rubbed a plastic comb on a spread to get an electrostatic charge and I
picked up two pieces of small paper, one hanging from the other. I put a
magnet near the bottom piece and it was attracted to the magnet like it was
really a magnetic force and not an electrostatic force like physics tries to
say. Maybe electrical forces could better be explained by small units of
north and south pole magnets and not electric charge.
Leedskalnin took two soft iron welding rods and connected one to the
positive terminal of a battery and the other to the negative terminal of the
battery. He touched them together and held them together till they got hot.
He sepearated them from each other while still connected to the battery and
investigated them with magnets. The iron connected to the negative terminal
was a completely south monopole magnet, and the iron connected to the
positive terminal was a completely north monopole magnet. This experiment
helped him to develope his theory on electric current.
Leedskalnin believed that electostatic force was really a magnetic
force. He would describe an electrostatically charged piece of rubber this
way: IN rubber the north and south pole magnetic units are not flowing like
they are in a bar iron magnet, (he said the magnetic units flowing in an
iron magnet are excess magnetic units that were added to the metal when it
was magnetized) but in rubber they are stationary and they are the north and
south pole magnetic forces that hold the rubber molecules together. This
causes many small north and south magnetic poles on the same side of the
rubber, and this is what causes the electrostatic charge. He proves this to
be a magnetic force by
attracting iron filings to an electrostatically charged rubber, and bringing
a metal bar magnet near. When the bar magnet's poles are reversed by turning
it to the other end, some of the iron filings jump off of the rubber. He
believed the first approach of the bar magnet with its stronger field,
reversed the magnetic fields of some of the iron filings and when the magnet
was turned around, the magnetic fields repelled each other. He believed it
was magnetic and not electrostatic. He also detected South pole magnetic
units flowing upward and North pole magnetic units flowing downward in the
northern hemisphere, by hanging a long magnet in the middle and the south
pole end would always hang down. To make it level, the south pole end needed
to be longer.
In his writings he does make some statements about other things like gravity
and moon orbit and tries to explain this by magnetic force. These statements
go beyond his experiments and seem to be just false opinions. He only had a
4th grade education, but he studied what science said about electrons and
current, and he thought science was wrong about it because his own
experiments showed something else.
Mineral, Vegetable and Animal Life, Copyright October 1945 By Edward
Leedskalnin Quote:
"The North pole magnets come out of the battery's positive terminal and
South pole magnets come out of car battery's negative terminal. To be sure
it is so, you get two pieces of soft steel welding rod four inches long, put
them in clips and connect them with the car battery. Put those two loose rod
ends together until the rod gets hot. Now test each of those rod ends you
were putting together with a small needle-like horizontally hanging magnet.
Then you will see the one which is connected with positive terminal is North
pole magnet, and the one which is connected with negative terminal is South
pole magnet (Like poles repulses, and unlike poles attract). You can change
the rod peices, but every time the one is connected with positive terminal
will be North pole magnet, and the one connected with negative terminal will
be South pole magnet".
brian a m stuckless wrote in message <4365C6E5.5FB9@nf.sympatico.ca>...

$ Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!
AMBiENT MEDiA does NOT require "virtual particle" *NEGATiVE-COUNTs*.!!
A *Zero-AVERAGE* of particle-COUNTs requires *some-NEGATiVE COUNTs*.!!
brian a m stuckless

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Steehs wrote: > "Do Virtual Photons Exist?" >

The Aether was original conceived as a means of explaining
"forces acting at a distance" (i.e.- electric, magnetic,
gravitation, et al). When the idea of the classical Aether was
abandoned early in the century, there was a need to find another
means of explaining these forces because, if it were not possible
to explain them by some other means then it would be necessary to
retain the Aether and the absolute reference frame it represented.
The elimination of that reference frame was an absolute imperative
of the political agenda of the academic community.
Fortunately, the advent of quantum theory allowed Dr. Feynmann to
generate the idea that these forces were produced by the exchange
of "virtual particles". These particles were so named because they
popped into and out of existence for periods of time that were so
short that the rules of quantum physics insured that their temporary
existence did not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

It is easy to understand how these particles could provide a
force over a distance. A "virtual particle" emitted from one point
would absorb momentum and travel ballistically to another where it
would release that momentum. The net result would be force acting
between the points.

The situation is analogous to the effect observed when two athletes
throw a medicine ball back and forth to each other. Difficulty with
the analogy is that the throwing of the medicine ball can only
produce a repulsive force; it cannot produce an attractive force!
The mathematics associated with the force production by "virtual
particles" particles, however, does allow for the production of
attractive forces, but, since no explanation as to how this is
possible is provided, one is left with the suspicion that this is
another example of a solution where an effect that is allowed by
the mathematics involved is being used outside of the constraints
imposed by the physical realities of the problem. These realities
require a rather unusual exchange of momentum to be involved. In
order to produce the attractive force, the "virtual photon" would
have to be launched with a momentum represented by a propagation
direction away from its target, reverse its momentum (direction of
travel), go past its target and repeat the process so as to acquire
a momentum in the required direction as it struck the target from
behind. (If anyone can provide a different explanation I would like
to hear it.)
Of course, if the "virtual photon" were > propagating through a
medium, such as the Aether, there would be no conceptual problem,
the "virtual particle could make the necessary exchange of momentum
with the medium. (A boomerang returns to the thrower because it
changes momentum with a medium, air. But then, if the Aether were
present we would have no need to consider the existence of "virtual
photons".

There is no need to resort to theoretical arguments, however.
If virtual photons produce electric and magnetic forces, they
should be observable. Consider a large electromagnet, such as is
used in an MIR machine. A recent news report described an
unfortunate incident where a steel oxygen bottle was not properly
mounted to its wall bracket. The magnetic field of the MIR pulled
the bottle to the machine and killed a boy who was being scanned.
It is obvious that the room was filled with a large and extremely
powerful magnetic field. If "virtual photons" were present in that
room, they would have produced a level of electromagnetic
interference that would scream their presence. If electric and
magnetic forces were produced by "virtual photons", they would
have to also effect any electromagnetic detectors in their
vicinity and one would expect that both natural and man-made
electric and magnetic fields would render electromagnetic
communication impossible.

An experiment is described in Chapter 4 of "The Einstein Hoax"
in which a strong electric field is produced inside of an
evacuated chamber and an antenna is located between the electrodes.
Using a radiation detector that covers the entire spectrum would
allow the detection of any spurious photons that acted to produce
the attractive force. Its a simple experiment and is one which
should be performed it science is to accept "virtual photons" as
meaningful.

The source material for this posting may be found in
http://einsteinhoax/hoax.htm ("The Einstein Hoax" {1997});
http://einsteinhoax/gravity.htm; ("Gravity" {1987}); and
http://einsteinhoax/relcor.htm ("Corrections to Special
Relativity" {1997}).
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Title: Re: Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!! 03 Dec 2005 08:58:01 PM
stone wrote:


Top posting:
Why do you post this stuff to Christian news groups?
Virtual photons don't exist. Does virtual reality in a computer really exist
outside of the computer?
Actually all of electromagnetic theory can be reduced to just magnetism. The
electron should never have been invented. An electron is really a south pole
magnetic unit.
Electromagnetic theory will always have paradoxes and inconsistencies until
it is reduced to just magnetism.
A man in the 1920s named Edward Leedskalnin did very detailed experiments
with magnets, and current. His findings show electricity is all magnetism.
He also built a small castle of coral stones in Florida, coral castle, which
scientist could not figure out how he did it. He lifted and moved stones
weighing as much as 28 tons with equipment that could only handle 10 tons.
People spying on him with binoculars signed sworn affidavits that they saw
stones weighing tons floating in the air. Leedskalnin and coral castle were
featured in "IN SEARCH OF" with Leonard Nimoy as an unexplained mystery. He
didn't say how he did it. I have an idea how he did it.
Coral castle now sits in Florida a tourist attraction. www.coralcastle.com
I'll summarize what he found out by experimenting with magnets. Just
like physics considers an electron or proton to be the smallest unit of
electric charge, there is a smallest unit of magnetism which he calls north
and south pole individual magnets. They are free to flow in metals, in the
air and in other things. The iron shavings around a bar magnet trace their
path. From the North end of a magnet, there are many north pole magnets
flowing out and going around the outside of the magnet and coming into the
south pole of the magnet and then running in the metal and returning to the
North pole. From the South pole of the magnet, there are many south pole
magnets flowing out and going around the outside of the magnet and going
into the North pole and flowing through the metal and returing to the South
pole. Some flow straight out from the poles and don't return, but are
replaced by others from the air.
Experimenting with small magnets hung over a wire carring a current he
concludes this: Electricity is really north pole magnets flowing out from
the + terminal of a battery and flowing through the wire with a right hand
twist and there is an opposite flow of south pole magnets coming out of
the - terminal of a battery and flowing in the wire with a right hand twist.

I can easily disprove this by simply placing a dielectric
between the ends of a horseshoe magnet, and noticing that
it's still able to attract certain metals, yet doesn't attract
aluminum. I can then place a high voltage on two ends of
separate magnets separated by a dielectric, and no current
will flow, yet the magnets are attacted to each other. If
I remove the dielectric, current will flow.
In each case, the dielectric had no effect on the magnetism,
yet has a big effect on current flow. In other cases,
the aluminum wasn't attracted by the magnets, yet aluminum
allows current to flow.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.

Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)

Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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