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"Glenn \Christian Mystic\ christianmystic1@peoplepc" |
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03 Dec 2006 05:28:17 PM |
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Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:36 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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"Andrew" wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
Andrew wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
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"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of other factors..but not for lack of evidence.
Only if you falsely redefine the word evidence. The author of the
Epistle to the Romans was not talking about science or evidence in any
meaningful manner. He was making things up.
No, he is talking about the evidence which we, as theists, see !
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 09:29:16 PM |
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Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:36 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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"Andrew" wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
Andrew wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
<snip>
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of other factors..but not for lack of evidence.
Only if you falsely redefine the word evidence. The author of the
Epistle to the Romans was not talking about science or evidence in any
meaningful manner. He was making things up.
No, he is talking about the evidence which we, as theists, see !
===>Certainly. It is the same "evidence" stage hypnotists use to make
you see what is not there or not see what is.
That "evidence" is called "FAITH".
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things
not seen." Hbrews 11:1.
That "faith" is the "substance"
on whicb the creationist myth is built. -- L.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
03 Dec 2006 05:28:09 PM |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:28:17 -0600, in alt.talk.creationism
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic1@peoplepc> wrote in
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:36 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
<EJf5g.5649$An2.3501@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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"Andrew" wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
Andrew wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
<snip>
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of other factors..but not for lack of evidence.
Only if you falsely redefine the word evidence. The author of the
Epistle to the Romans was not talking about science or evidence in any
meaningful manner. He was making things up.
No, he is talking about the evidence which we, as theists, see !
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
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| User: "Andrew" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 07:49:13 AM |
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
Andrew
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| User: "alanm" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 08:09:52 AM |
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"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in message
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message
news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
Andrew
Hmm. An irrelevant quote in a thread that's over 6 months old. If you layer
enough irrelevant quotes over the top of one another it could add to the
fossil record. In a few million years it might even break down into
something useful although I seriously doubt that.
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| User: "Woman Catholic" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
05 Dec 2006 09:19:35 PM |
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In article <Q_Vch.2556$HU.1332@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, alanm says...
Hmm. An irrelevant quote in a thread that's over 6 months old. If you layer
enough irrelevant quotes over the top of one another it could add to the
fossil record. In a few million years it might even break down into
something useful although I seriously doubt that.
The National Sunday Law ought to be here by then.
--
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Woman Catholic
http://womancatholic.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 09:35:16 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Free Lunch" wrote in message
news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
===>This ridiculous claim is simply built on the baseless "faith"
that all those things are "made" by some anthropomorphic super-being.
This is the ONLY "substance" on which creationism is built.
I.e. WISHFUL THINKING AND FANTASIZING.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things
not seen." Hebrews 11:1. -- L.
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| User: "Budikka" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
26 Dec 2006 10:19:14 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
Evolution *is* a fact and the fossil record provides overwhelmingly
strong evidence for it. I'm still willing to formally debate this with
you, right here, but you keep running from my offer and don't have the
courage even to say no, let alone attempt to rebut or refute the
material I've given you - material which refutes every lie you've
blindly parrotted about evolution.
Why are you so afraid of this? Does your god not lend you courage to
witness for him? Why are you allowing yourself to be Satan's tool,
spreading lies on the Internet?
I'm waiting right here and willing to consider and address every
rationale and every scientific argument you can make against the Theory
of Evolution. If you have any. Please post them and let's have that
exchange and see who has truth on our side, shall we? If you have any.
Or you can run away yet again and prove that you've been lying about
this from the start.
What would Jesus do, Andrew?
Respond positively and soon, because my patience with you is wearing
thin. You can keep lying and taunting, Andrew, AND RUE the day you
ever encountered me. Or you can find the guts to stand up for what you
believe, right here and right now.
Budikka
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 06:07:34 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:49:13 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
The epistle writer's claim is interesting, but I have no evidence that
it is correct.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 09:46:32 PM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:49:13 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
<tHVch.7329$1s6.4941@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:rbn6n2tj6igk2domq8jqsjcis2c5mvsa27@4ax.com...
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of *other factors* - not for lack of evidence.
The epistle writer's claim is interesting, but I have no evidence that
it is correct.
===>In fact that which is "all around us" is only evidence for the
existence of ITSELF: an infinite, forever existing and forever
changing MACROCOSMOS. Certainly not of some imaginary anthropomorphic
"creator" living "otside of space and time",
i.e. NOWHERE and NOWHEN. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Record: Evolution a fact - NOT |
04 Dec 2006 09:32:09 PM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:28:17 -0600, in alt.talk.creationism
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic1@peoplepc> wrote in
<12n6mpt6q40um95@corp.supernews.com>:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:ehct52tfj7jnjlgrai29nihsarj3er4bml@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:36 GMT, in alt.talk.creationism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
<EJf5g.5649$An2.3501@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
"Free Lunch" wrote in message
news:qa17529c22adncr2t2a6pc3a9t63dip1sa@4ax.com...
"Andrew" wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
Andrew wrote:
"Elmer" wrote:
<snip>
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
~ Romans 1:20 ~
In other words, the evidence is all around us. Therefore if we fail
to see, it is because of other factors..but not for lack of evidence.
Only if you falsely redefine the word evidence. The author of the
Epistle to the Romans was not talking about science or evidence in any
meaningful manner. He was making things up.
No, he is talking about the evidence which we, as theists, see !
Please, show me the evidence. If it is evidence, you will be able to
present it. If you cannot provide it, it doesn't qualify as evidence in
even the most loose definition of the term.
===>Their ONLY "evidence", the sole "substance" of their "theory"
is "FAITH"!
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things
not seen." Hebrews 11:1 -- L.
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