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"Pastor Frank" |
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21 Mar 2005 07:04:56 PM |
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Re: foundation of the truth |
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"< Matt >" wrote:
1 Timothy 3:15 (New International Version)
15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct
themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God,
the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Genesis, 32:30
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God
face to face, and my life is preserved."
Gospel of John, 1:18
"No man hath seen God at any time."
Is John contradicting Jesus? See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth,
and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me,
ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND
HAVE SEEN HIM."
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: foundation of the truth |
23 Mar 2005 12:00:36 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:423B9BC3.65935BC2@netvigator.com...
"< Matt >" wrote:
1 Timothy 3:15 (New International Version)
15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct
themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God,
the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Genesis, 32:30
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God
face to face, and my life is preserved."
Gospel of John, 1:18
"No man hath seen God at any time."
Is John contradicting Jesus? See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth,
and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me,
ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND
HAVE SEEN HIM."
Genesis, 32:30
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God
face to face, and my life is preserved."
Gospel of John, 1:18
"No man hath seen God at any time."
Just about sums it up Frank
.....The bible is a religious book, possibly over 2000 years old, translated
dozens of times, made up from early parchments, the safe keeping and the
accuracy of which, when taken over thousands of years, must be treated with
extreme scepticism.
Printing of books and bibles for general distribution did not start until six
hundred years ago, before that religious documents were translated and hand
written by scribes and monks who added or subtracted whatever suited them over
a period of one thousand four hundred years! Just consider that ? one thousand
four hundred years or more. They did this either on ethical or religious
grounds, or for purely personal gratification, or under pressure from the
warlord of the time who used religion and the fear of it's god to subjugate
the population in the absence of rule of law. We humans do that, you know.
Only in religious books do we read about miracles. The bible projects it's
own set of beliefs; therefore quoting from this same book to justify what is
already in it is painfully ridiculous.
It could be said that the bible is not a revelation, but a mental trap
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong
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