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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Hagar"
Date: 18 Dec 2003 10:59:14 AM
Object: Re: Founding Fathers Were Agianst Christianity - Parrallels of Moon andQ
In article <c49f8b5e.0312180621.11e2dacf@posting.google.com>
eglamkowski@angelfire.com (Edward Glamkowski) wrote:


gordonmuir2003google@yahoo.com (Gordon Muir) wrote in message

http://www.postfun.com/pfp/worbois.html
Founding Fathers view on religion and christianity.
I agree with this,they followed the real spiritual God of

Freedom and

not the christian fear,guilt man made God that controls

everyone with

fear,guilt and shame which gives God a bad image and chases

people

away from wanting anything to do with God.


It really depends on how wide a net you cast when considering
founding fathers. If you only talk about Jefferson and Madison
and a few others, then you are correct.

But if you include, say, everyone who actually signed the DoI,
there were many stark-raving Christians on the list.

The Declaration of Independence was never a law adopted by any
of the three governments of the rebellious colonies. It merely
put the British government on notice that a rebellion was
formally declared.


Out of all who attended the Constitutional Convention, I'd be
willing to bet the majority of them were also devoutly

Christian.


The fact that the word 'God' never appears in the Constitution
as adopted by the final government of the USA would appear to be
significant.
The 'devout Christians' who signed it either felt that it was
inappropriate, or lost the vote.
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User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Founding Fathers Were Agianst Christianity - Parrallels of Moon andQ 18 Dec 2003 12:07:57 PM
On 18 Dec 2003 16:59:14 -0000,
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Hagar) spake
thusly:

It really depends on how wide a net you cast when considering
founding fathers. If you only talk about Jefferson and Madison
and a few others, then you are correct.

But if you include, say, everyone who actually signed the DoI,
there were many stark-raving Christians on the list.


The Declaration of Independence was never a law adopted by any
of the three governments of the rebellious colonies. It merely
put the British government on notice that a rebellion was
formally declared.

And shows a belief in the Creator. No matter how ya
slice it, it does.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
http://www.creationists.org/ervin.html
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Founding Fathers Were Agianst Christianity - Parrallels of Moon andQ 18 Dec 2003 10:54:35 PM
Pastor Dave wrote:

On 18 Dec 2003 16:59:14 -0000,
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Hagar) spake
thusly:

It really depends on how wide a net you cast when considering
founding fathers. If you only talk about Jefferson and Madison
and a few others, then you are correct.

But if you include, say, everyone who actually signed the DoI,
there were many stark-raving Christians on the list.


The Declaration of Independence was never a law adopted by any
of the three governments of the rebellious colonies. It merely
put the British government on notice that a rebellion was
formally declared.


And shows a belief in the Creator. No matter how ya
slice it, it does.

===>Lots of people and lots of non-Christians
believe in a Creator Force, without
believing in the Bible or Christianity. The Founding Fathers
certainly did not believe in declaring the new country a
"Christian Country". The exact opposite is shown in
the Declaration (Nature's God), the Constitution (no
reference to any "God"), and in treaties (declaring that
this iGovernment of the United States of America is not,
in any sense, founded on the Christian religion. SEE:
The Treaty of Tripoli passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797).
Libertarius
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