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"Pastor Frank" |
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03 Oct 2004 08:14:33 PM |
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Re: Give peace a chance |
"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The risk, coming from the Israel enslavement in Egypt millennia ago and
ending in the holocaust, is that humans hardly sympathize with the plight
of
the Palestinians, the people called Philistines those millennia ago. But
the Israelites tried to kill all the Philistines, as the Israelis are now
trying to kill all the Palestinians.
And people calling themselves Christians, ignoring the parable of the good
Samaritan Palestinian, keep that up. Anyway, my politically incorrect
plea
is that we let the Bush family rise from our burning and let the Holy Land
be home for all the people who live there, no more silly cheek-slapping.
We think that conflict is eternal. But, given one more term to finish it
off, the Bush family might secure Israel and Palestine into nations
separate
by legal boundaries but united in the ideals of our democracy.
No. International law specifies, that refugees have the right to go
home, or be compensated for their lost properties. The USA gives $15 million
per day to Israel in foreign aid along with lots of weapons of mass
destruction, yet not a penny goes to pay off the wretched refugees. Israel
would rather bulldoze their shanties lock up their young in vast prison
Gulags and make their lives as miserable as possible, in order to get them
to emigrate.
That has been going on since 1948 shaming ALL ARABS who see that for
what it is... pure racism and religious bigotry and hypocricy. But as
surplus Russian nuclear war-heads are being traded on the black markets of
the world, we are in the last days, and Biblical prophesy is about to be
fulfilled. See below
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. Let no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to all media, even our hearts
and minds, right up to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God incarnate
and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere does
Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba, Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9).
Had the Jews faith in their Theology, they would have converted the
natives of Israel, instead of "killing all that breatheth", keeping alive
only little girls to "do with as you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18).
See below the abomination of hell at work and what the ultimate consequence
will be, as per Biblical prophesy.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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05 Oct 2004 11:27:49 AM |
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To what, that I said, are you saying No?
Know your friends and neighbors, Frank.
Know them frankly, openly like Christ.
Why do you preach to the choir?
www.star.net/silence
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The risk, coming from the Israel enslavement in Egypt millennia ago and
ending in the holocaust, is that humans hardly sympathize with the
plight
of
the Palestinians, the people called Philistines those millennia ago.
But
the Israelites tried to kill all the Philistines, as the Israelis are
now
trying to kill all the Palestinians.
And people calling themselves Christians, ignoring the parable of the
good
Samaritan Palestinian, keep that up. Anyway, my politically incorrect
plea
is that we let the Bush family rise from our burning and let the Holy
Land
be home for all the people who live there, no more silly cheek-slapping.
We think that conflict is eternal. But, given one more term to finish
it
off, the Bush family might secure Israel and Palestine into nations
separate
by legal boundaries but united in the ideals of our democracy.
No. International law specifies, that refugees have the right to go
home, or be compensated for their lost properties. The USA gives $15
million
per day to Israel in foreign aid along with lots of weapons of mass
destruction, yet not a penny goes to pay off the wretched refugees. Israel
would rather bulldoze their shanties lock up their young in vast prison
Gulags and make their lives as miserable as possible, in order to get them
to emigrate.
That has been going on since 1948 shaming ALL ARABS who see that for
what it is... pure racism and religious bigotry and hypocricy. But as
surplus Russian nuclear war-heads are being traded on the black markets of
the world, we are in the last days, and Biblical prophesy is about to be
fulfilled. See below
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. Let no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to all media, even our
hearts
and minds, right up to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate
and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere does
Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba,
Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9).
Had the Jews faith in their Theology, they would have converted the
natives of Israel, instead of "killing all that breatheth", keeping alive
only little girls to "do with as you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18).
See below the abomination of hell at work and what the ultimate
consequence
will be, as per Biblical prophesy.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the
Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains
with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye
shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,
and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the
God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck
in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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05 Oct 2004 08:17:12 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BTX7d.2704$Y54.2319@trndny09...
The risk, coming from the Israel enslavement in Egypt millennia ago
and
ending in the holocaust, is that humans hardly sympathize with the
plight
of
the Palestinians, the people called Philistines those millennia ago.
But
the Israelites tried to kill all the Philistines, as the Israelis are
now
trying to kill all the Palestinians.
And people calling themselves Christians, ignoring the parable of the
good
Samaritan Palestinian, keep that up. Anyway, my politically incorrect
plea
is that we let the Bush family rise from our burning and let the Holy
Land
be home for all the people who live there, no more silly
cheek-slapping.
We think that conflict is eternal. But, given one more term to finish
it
off, the Bush family might secure Israel and Palestine into nations
separate
by legal boundaries but united in the ideals of our democracy.
No. International law specifies, that refugees have the right to go
home, or be compensated for their lost properties. The USA gives $15
million
per day to Israel in foreign aid along with lots of weapons of mass
destruction, yet not a penny goes to pay off the wretched refugees.
Israel
would rather bulldoze their shanties lock up their young in vast prison
Gulags and make their lives as miserable as possible, in order to get
them
to emigrate.
That has been going on since 1948 shaming ALL ARABS who see that for
what it is... pure racism and religious bigotry and hypocricy. But as
surplus Russian nuclear war-heads are being traded on the black markets
of
the world, we are in the last days, and Biblical prophesy is about to be
fulfilled. See below
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why
we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their
children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to
have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. Let no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from
Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to all media, even our
hearts
and minds, right up to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate
and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere does
Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba,
Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9).
Had the Jews faith in their Theology, they would have converted the
natives of Israel, instead of "killing all that breatheth", keeping
alive
only little girls to "do with as you please" (Moses in Numbers
31:17-18).
See below the abomination of hell at work and what the ultimate
consequence
will be, as per Biblical prophesy.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised
land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian
natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the
Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they
have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the
Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and
the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the
Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill
the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains
with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye
shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men
and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land
you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,
and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he
left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the
God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy
all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman,
infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces
before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be
dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with
him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive
scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
night;
in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give
suck
in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on
the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains,
Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to
give
him glory.
To what, that I said, are you saying No?
I support you fully except for your assumption, that Palestinians want
their own state. That is not true, for they know, that such a state would be
akin to the native homelands Apartheid South Africa created at one time:
I.e. tiny, economically not viable and at the fringes of where the action
is, i.e. a place for Israel to get dirt cheap labour.
Palestinians want to go back home, or be compensated for their lost
property where going home is not feasible any longer, somewhat like the
Germans seek to compensate surviving Jews. They don't mind at all being
citizen of a free and democratic Israel with equal rights for all, perhaps
modelled after the South African political balance negotiated after
Apartheid.
Sorry about "preaching to the choir".
Pastor Frank
PETITION TO WORLD LEADERS
We CHRISTIANS FOR UNIVERSAL HUMAN RIGHTS seek to have
human rights made mandatory everywhere. Presently we want Zionist
aggression, oppression, occupation and colonialism in the Middle East
declared a "Crime against Humanity", which must be adjudicated.
We want occupation and confiscation of land made illegal, and the
appalling conditions imposed on occupied civilian populations lifted.
We want an International Court with power to resolve territorial
disputes established NOW, so that the dispossessed and ethnically
cleansed can sue for redress, instead of having to draw scant
attention to their plight by needing to blow themselves up among their
ruthless enemies.
Any government conducting or supporting colonialism or other human
rights abuses, must be declared a rogue state and their leaders and
perpetrators must face criminal charges. Supporting, encouraging or
financing human and civil rights abusers must be considered a hate crime.
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| User: "bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: Give peace a chance |
06 Oct 2004 01:25:04 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<vzI8d.1030$Ii.211@fe51.usenetserver.com>...
"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The risk, coming from the Israel
We think that conflict is eternal.
we are in the last days, and Biblical prophesy is about to be
fulfilled.
Pastor Frank
I agree with you pastor frank, But I'm sure that god and his dead son
isn't going to be around to save anyone.
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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08 Oct 2004 11:13:09 AM |
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I agree with you pastor frank, But I'm sure that god and his dead son
isn't going to be around to save anyone.
Blustering Bluskie, God is around saving everything, because he or she is
the creator. And nothing is as dead as your human reason, in infinity! Are
you a dear hunter?
www.star.net/silence
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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08 Oct 2004 09:12:25 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I agree with you pastor frank, But I'm sure that god and his dead son
isn't going to be around to save anyone.
Not likely in the flesh, but they will be with you always in spirit.
Pastor Frank
THE MANDATE OF JESUS
**Jesus in Lk:4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath
anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the blind.
**Jesus in Mk:2:17: When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are
whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to
call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
**Jesus in Lk:9:56: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them.
**Jesus Mt:18:11: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
**Jesus in Jn:12:47: And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge
him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
**Jesus in Mt:11:28-30 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my
yoke is easy and my burden is light."
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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10 Oct 2004 01:06:47 PM |
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Not likely in the flesh, but they will be with you always in spirit.
Pastor Frank
Frank, frankly, flesh seems to me to preoccupy you. I don't mean the
activity that's commonly called sex or the the activity by which humans
devours deer. I mean I don't know whether by "you" you mean me or us, or
other poor sinners, or all.
www.silence.com/silence
THE MANDATE OF JESUS
**Jesus in Lk:4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath
anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the blind.
**Jesus in Mk:2:17: When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are
whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to
call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
**Jesus in Lk:9:56: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them.
**Jesus Mt:18:11: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
**Jesus in Jn:12:47: And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I
judge
him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
**Jesus in Mt:11:28-30 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I
am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my
yoke is easy and my burden is light."
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
Not likely in the flesh, but they will be with you always in spirit.
Frank, frankly, flesh seems to me to preoccupy you. I don't mean the
activity that's commonly called sex or the the activity by which humans
devours deer. I mean I don't know whether by "you" you mean me or us, or
other poor sinners, or all.
www.silence.com/silence
Sorry about that. "In the flesh" is a typical KJV Bible expression
meaning 'physically', and Christ will always be with those of us who love
Him, "even to the end of the world". See below
Pastor Frank
Mt:28:20: Teach them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Heb:13:5: Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content
with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor
forsake thee.
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12 Oct 2004 12:03:29 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
Not likely in the flesh, but they will be with you always in
spirit.
Frank, frankly, flesh seems to me to preoccupy you. I don't mean the
activity that's commonly called sex or the the activity by which humans
devours deer. I mean I don't know whether by "you" you mean me or us,
or
other poor sinners, or all.
www.silence.com/silence
Sorry about that. "In the flesh" is a typical KJV Bible expression
meaning 'physically', and Christ will always be with those of us who love
Him, "even to the end of the world". See below
Pastor Frank
Frank, you didn't answer my question. Instead, you wandered into the
oblivion of theology, which is words about God without regard to God. Why
didn't I see any humans at the top of Karn Hattin when I visited the holy
land and the Church of the Navitity while snipers hung over it on
construction crains? Can you spell King James Version, and what do you mean
by typical? Love whom, what, etc.? Love or words?
www.star.net/silence
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14 Oct 2004 05:53:58 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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Sorry about that. "In the flesh" is a typical KJV Bible expression
meaning 'physically', and Christ will always be with those of us who
love
Him, "even to the end of the world". See below
Pastor Frank
Frank, you didn't answer my question.
What "question" are you refering to. I can't find any.
Instead, you wandered into the
oblivion of theology, which is words about God without regard to God.
Are you condemning the study of the academic discipline of theology? Or
posts in our one and only theology NG? Show how the study of theology is
"without regard to God". Then explain why you spend time in condemnation,
when there are so many things we need to praise, worship and glorify?
Why
didn't I see any humans at the top of Karn Hattin when I visited the holy
land and the Church of the Navitity while snipers hung over it on
construction crains? Can you spell King James Version, and what do you
mean
by typical? Love whom, what, etc.? Love or words?
www.star.net/silence
Sorry, but I don't know what you are on about.
Pastor Frank
THE ROYAL LAW OF CHRIST
**Jesus in Mk 12:30: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.
**31: And the second is alike, namely this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
**Jesus in Mat 22:40 "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two
commandments."
THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST
Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
should do to you, do ye even so to them...."
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16 Oct 2004 11:47:00 AM |
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What "question" are you refering to. I can't find any.
You can find them by looking for question marks.
Here are some:
Why
didn't I see any humans at the top of Karn Hattin when I visited the
holy
land and the Church of the Navitity while snipers hung over it on
construction crains? Can you spell King James Version, and what do you
mean
by typical? Love whom, what, etc.? Love or words?
www.star.net/silence
The KJV is wonderfully poetic, whether or not it is the word of God. I
wonder if King James' fifty Oxford scholars abbreviated their sources. The
result sounds more careful than that. That is, more timeworn.
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16 Oct 2004 03:01:36 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote: Please do not erase authors' names. Thanks
What "question" are you refering to. I can't find any.
You can find them by looking for question marks.
Here are some:
Why
didn't I see any humans at the top of Karn Hattin when I visited the
holy
land and the Church of the Navitity while snipers hung over it on
construction crains? Can you spell King James Version, and what do
you
mean
by typical? Love whom, what, etc.? Love or words?
www.star.net/silence
I can't seem to understand you. I don't know what "Karn Hattin" is and
why there are supposed to be "humans" on top of it, I presume you mean apart
from the humans hanging on construction cranes?
The KJV is wonderfully poetic, whether or not it is the word of God. I
wonder if King James' fifty Oxford scholars abbreviated their sources.
The
result sounds more careful than that. That is, more timeworn.
Does that make it invalid in your view? Since I am not a translator, I
can't answer you there. We Christians believe the Biblical NT being the holy
and inerrant Word of God. Meaning that all apparent inconsistencies are the
result of mis-interpretations.
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mk:10:27: And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is
impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
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17 Oct 2004 12:24:30 PM |
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I can't seem to understand you. I don't know what "Karn Hattin" is and
why there are supposed to be "humans" on top of it, I presume you mean
apart
from the humans hanging on construction cranes?
Frank, English-speaking people call that hill the Mount of Beatitudes. The
Roman church says it's where Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount. Why
don't you know that, and why was no human there?
The KJV is wonderfully poetic, whether or not it is the word of God. I
wonder if King James' fifty Oxford scholars abbreviated their sources.
The
result sounds more careful than that. That is, more timeworn.
Does that make it invalid in your view? Since I am not a translator, I
can't answer you there. We Christians believe the Biblical NT being the
holy
and inerrant Word of God. Meaning that all apparent inconsistencies are
the
result of mis-interpretations.
My question in this is why you don't spell things out. Are you LOL at
people who take more time and care, people who travel to the Holy Land and
walk where Jesus walked and do what Jesus did, as he said we may, to be as
he is? The problem I have with theology is that talking isn't walking. For
example, I prefer Francis to Aquinas.
So, Frank, let me frankly ask you a less theological question. A sister of
mine, who says she's a born again Christian, says she's afraid of flying.
Do you think that fear of flying comes from lack of faith or fear of death,
or neither or both, what?
www.star.net/silence
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17 Oct 2004 11:43:41 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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??????????????? wrote: Stop erasing my name Angela, you evil witch!!!!!
I can't seem to understand you. I don't know what "Karn Hattin" is
and
why there are supposed to be "humans" on top of it, I presume you mean
apart from the humans hanging on construction cranes?
Frank, English-speaking people call that hill the Mount of Beatitudes.
The
Roman church says it's where Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount. Why
don't you know that, and why was no human there?
You want my guess? It probably was one of numerous Israeli military
restricted sites. But let us hear your views, or are they secret and you
want proper copyright protection and financial compensation before releasing
them? LOL
The KJV is wonderfully poetic, whether or not it is the word of God.
I
wonder if King James' fifty Oxford scholars abbreviated their sources.
The result sounds more careful than that. That is, more timeworn.
Does that make it invalid in your view? Since I am not a translator,
I
can't answer you there. We Christians believe the Biblical NT being the
holy and inerrant Word of God. Meaning that all apparent inconsistencies
are the result of mis-interpretations.
My question in this is why you don't spell things out.
I just did. Read my post again.
Are you LOL at
people who take more time and care, people who travel to the Holy Land and
walk where Jesus walked and do what Jesus did, as he said we may, to be as
he is? The problem I have with theology is that talking isn't walking.
For
example, I prefer Francis to Aquinas.
So, Frank, let me frankly ask you a less theological question. A sister
of
mine, who says she's a born again Christian, says she's afraid of flying.
Do you think that fear of flying comes from lack of faith or fear of
death,
or neither or both, what?
I have no idea. But why would you think that Theology, an academic
discipline in most Universities would have anything to do with "fear of
flying"? Sometimes I wonder about you, Angela.
Pastor Frank
PARABLES
Matt 13:10: And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou
unto them in parables?
11: He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know
the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12: For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more
abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he
hath.
13: Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they looking see not;
and listening they hear not, neither do they understand.
14: And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By
listening ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and looking ye shall see,
and shall not perceive:
15: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of
hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see
with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their
heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mk:4:34: But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they
were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
Mt:13:34-35: All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in
parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: That it might be
fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in
parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the
foundation of the world.
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19 Oct 2004 12:34:42 PM |
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I can't seem to understand you. I don't know what "Karn Hattin" is
and
why there are supposed to be "humans" on top of it, I presume you mean
apart from the humans hanging on construction cranes?
Frank, English-speaking people call that hill the Mount of Beatitudes.
The
Roman church says it's where Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount.
Why
don't you know that, and why was no human there?
You want my guess? It probably was one of numerous Israeli military
restricted sites. But let us hear your views, or are they secret and you
want proper copyright protection and financial compensation before
releasing
them? LOL
My views are public, and I traveled to that hill on a public bus. The
driver was packing a pistol, as was the driver of the bus on which Rosa
Parks refused to give up her seat, but maybe you won't see that relationship
as you don't see the relationship between faith and fear of flying. Also on
the bus, as on the other buses I road in contravention of the United States
state department's advice, were several Israeli soldiers carying loaded
rifles.
However, boarding behind me, was a young female Israeli soldier, carrying no
weapon. When the pistol-packing driver proved not to speak English, in
response to my asking him to tell me where to get off to see the mountain,
she spoke up and sat beside me until we arrived. I theologize that she is
what we need.
Frank, religion need not be bigotry, and theology is worthless if it
obfuscates religion rather than explaining it, and my thoughts are plain and
open and clear.
That is, for any laughing out loud or silent weeping, here and on my and
Billy's web site at
www.star.net/silence.
So, Frank, let me frankly ask you a less theological question. A sister
of
mine, who says she's a born again Christian, says she's afraid of
flying.
Do you think that fear of flying comes from lack of faith or fear of
death,
or neither or both, what?
I have no idea. But why would you think that Theology, an academic
discipline in most Universities would have anything to do with "fear of
flying"? Sometimes I wonder about you, Angela.
Pastor Frank
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19 Oct 2004 06:48:13 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I can't seem to understand you. I don't know what "Karn Hattin"
is
and
why there are supposed to be "humans" on top of it, I presume you
mean
apart from the humans hanging on construction cranes?
Frank, English-speaking people call that hill the Mount of Beatitudes.
The
Roman church says it's where Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount.
Why don't you know that, and why was no human there?
You want my guess? It probably was one of numerous Israeli military
restricted sites. But let us hear your views, or are they secret and you
want proper copyright protection and financial compensation before
releasing them? LOL
My views are public, and I traveled to that hill on a public bus. The
driver was packing a pistol, as was the driver of the bus on which Rosa
Parks refused to give up her seat, but maybe you won't see that
relationship
as you don't see the relationship between faith and fear of flying. Also
on
the bus, as on the other buses I road in contravention of the United
States
state department's advice, were several Israeli soldiers carying loaded
rifles.
What are you trying to say? It sounds like you accuse those weapons
festooned characters of being responsible for there being "no humans" on
that hill. Did they shoot and kill all "humans" up there?
I wouldn't put it past Jews to kill all, for they are proud of their
ancestors who killed "all the breatheth" in the entire country to "occupy
the land" and "reap where they have not sown", and I bet they would love to
do it all over again.
However, boarding behind me, was a young female Israeli soldier, carrying
no
weapon. When the pistol-packing driver proved not to speak English, in
response to my asking him to tell me where to get off to see the mountain,
she spoke up and sat beside me until we arrived. I theologize that she is
what we need.
I fully agree with you here. We reap what we sow, and as long as
Israelis refuse to compensate those they made dispossessed refugees by force
of arms, they will not know peace. Neither the Apartheid South African
native "Homelands" nor the Israeli equivalents for Palestinians are
economically viable. South Africa found a way to accommodate their natives,
and in order to find peace, Israel also MUST unite the country, making all
inhabitants Israeli citizens and equal under the law. Only then will they
have security.
Pastor Frank
LOVE
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples,
if ye have love one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another,
as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends.
Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command...
Jesus in John 14:21-24 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the
one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will
love him and show myself to him." He who does not love me will not obey my
teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who
sent me."
Jesus in Mt:7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father
which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy
name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never
knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it
does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it
is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight
in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,
always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.
1 John 4:7-13 (KJV) "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of
God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that
loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. In this was manifested the
love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into
the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we
loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for
our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in
him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit."
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22 Oct 2004 12:13:39 PM |
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What are you trying to say? It sounds like you accuse those weapons
festooned characters of being responsible for there being "no humans" on
that hill. Did they shoot and kill all "humans" up there?
I wouldn't put it past Jews to kill all, for they are proud of their
ancestors who killed "all the breatheth" in the entire country to "occupy
the land" and "reap where they have not sown", and I bet they would love
to
do it all over again.
I am trying to say that the Mount of Beatitudes should be the most sacred
place on Earth for Christians, who say they believe that their faith gives
them eternal life. Yet, like my sister, they're afraid to fly there, while
many drive to Graceland. Do they think Memphis is the promised land?
Memphis is in Egypt!
However, boarding behind me, was a young female Israeli soldier,
carrying
no
weapon. When the pistol-packing driver proved not to speak English, in
response to my asking him to tell me where to get off to see the
mountain,
she spoke up and sat beside me until we arrived. I theologize that she
is
what we need.
I fully agree with you here. We reap what we sow, and as long as
Israelis refuse to compensate those they made dispossessed refugees by
force
of arms, they will not know peace. Neither the Apartheid South African
native "Homelands" nor the Israeli equivalents for Palestinians are
economically viable. South Africa found a way to accommodate their
natives,
and in order to find peace, Israel also MUST unite the country, making all
inhabitants Israeli citizens and equal under the law. Only then will they
have security.
Pastor Frank
Although you still miss the heart, thank you, Frank.
Compensation is a difficult word, and calling Palestinians Israelis is much
like calling black white.
Yet, you see that Israelis MUST activate for peace.
www.star.net/silence
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22 Oct 2004 08:38:10 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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????????????????? wrote:
What are you trying to say? It sounds like you accuse those weapons
festooned characters of being responsible for there being "no humans" on
that hill. Did they shoot and kill all "humans" up there?
I wouldn't put it past Jews to kill all, for they are proud of their
ancestors who killed "all the breatheth" in the entire country to
"occupy
the land" and "reap where they have not sown", and I bet they would love
to do it all over again.
I am trying to say that the Mount of Beatitudes should be the most sacred
place on Earth for Christians, who say they believe that their faith gives
them eternal life. Yet, like my sister, they're afraid to fly there,
while
many drive to Graceland. Do they think Memphis is the promised land?
Memphis is in Egypt!
Although you still miss the heart, thank you, Frank.
Compensation is a difficult word, and calling Palestinians Israelis is
much
like calling black white.
Yet, you see that Israelis MUST activate for peace.
www.star.net/silence
Then why are you still erasing all names except your own? Are you saying
you demonstrate "heart" whereas I "miss heart"? I don't erase your name, do
I?
Also you are wrong about Palestinians not wanting to be called Israelis.
You don't give any reasons, nor other evidence, and the fact, that Israeli
Palestinians do not protest being called Israelis and are law-abiding
citizen of Israel, belies your accusation.
Pastor Frank
Mt:7:23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity.
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23 Oct 2004 12:15:40 PM |
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Then why are you still erasing all names except your own? Are you
saying
you demonstrate "heart" whereas I "miss heart"? I don't erase your name,
do
I?
First, Frank, I haven't erased any name, and I haven't signed mine! Second,
why do you think your name is so important?
Also you are wrong about Palestinians not wanting to be called
Israelis.
You don't give any reasons, nor other evidence, and the fact, that Israeli
Palestinians do not protest being called Israelis and are law-abiding
citizen of Israel, belies your accusation.
Pastor Frank
I was there, FRANK, FRANK, FRANK.
The Palestinians simply want their homes.
Whether or not their name is Palestinian.
And many of them are still shepherds.
That is, actual pastors, Frank.
www.star.net/silence
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24 Oct 2004 03:56:03 AM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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?????????????????????????????????? wrote in message
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Then why are you still erasing all names except your own? Are you
saying
you demonstrate "heart" whereas I "miss heart"? I don't erase your name,
do I?
First, Frank, I haven't erased any name, and I haven't signed mine!
Second,
why do you think your name is so important?
Also you are wrong about Palestinians not wanting to be called
Israelis.
You don't give any reasons, nor other evidence, and the fact, that
Israeli
Palestinians do not protest being called Israelis and are law-abiding
citizen of Israel, belies your accusation.
I was there, FRANK, FRANK, FRANK.
The Palestinians simply want their homes.
Whether or not their name is Palestinian.
And many of them are still shepherds.
That is, actual pastors, Frank.
www.star.net/silence
Did I say anything different?
And you are still erasing authors' names in the header. I have to put
????????????????????????????????? to show where, and you don't seem to
understand what I am saying, but are merely looking to be a contrarian. I
won't answer any more posts which don't show all authors' names and message
numbers.
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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24 Oct 2004 12:43:29 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean this stuff, Frank? Is this your name?
If so, again, how is it so important to you?
And you are still erasing authors' names in the header. I have to put
????????????????????????????????? to show where, and you don't seem to
understand what I am saying, but are merely looking to be a contrarian. I
won't answer any more posts which don't show all authors' names and
message
numbers.
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24 Oct 2004 10:02:51 PM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean this stuff, Frank? Is this your name?
If so, again, how is it so important to you?
And you are still erasing authors' names in the header. I have to
put
????????????????????????????????? to show where, and you don't seem to
understand what I am saying, but are merely looking to be a contrarian.
I
won't answer any more posts which don't show all authors' names and
message numbers.
Glad you found my name and message number. But now you are top posting,
Angela, which is just as bad. Try to imitate all the other posts and put
your stuff at the bottom, -always!!
This is the way it's supposed to look:
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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And you are still erasing authors' names in the header. I have to
put
????????????????????????????????? to show where, and you don't seem to
understand what I am saying, but are merely looking to be a contrarian.
I
won't answer any more posts which don't show all authors' names and
message numbers.
Do you mean this stuff, Frank? Is this your name?
If so, again, how is it so important to you?
Glad you found my name and message number. But now you are top posting,
Angela, which is just as bad. Try to imitate all the other posts and have
your stuff at the bottom, -always!! It's called netiquette, good manners and
is "important" to most all News Group denizens.
Pastor Frank
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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| Title: Re: Give peace a chance |
27 Oct 2004 12:02:53 PM |
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Neither you, nor those below in this hierarchy that repeat you rules while
questions you, have not addressed the question of why you think your name is
so important. Theology is supposed to be words about God, not pride or
arrogance or flaming, like hell. The meek shall inherit God's promise.
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| User: "amoeba" |
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| Title: Re: Give peace a chance |
25 Oct 2004 03:30:34 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Glad you found my name and message number. But now you are top posting,
Angela, which is just as bad. Try to imitate all the other posts and put
your stuff at the bottom, -always!! This is the way it's supposed to
look:
You just got through top posting yourself! Do you have a rational
explanation for this? Or are you going to resort to your usual off the
wall rant?
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| User: "bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: Give peace a chance |
25 Oct 2004 03:01:03 PM |
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amoeba <xeno@psuedopodia.rhizopod.protozoan> wrote in message news:<20041025012712.E39768@synergy.transbay.net>...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Glad you found my name and message number. But now you are top posting,
Angela, which is just as bad. Try to imitate all the other posts and put
your stuff at the bottom, -always!! This is the way it's supposed to
look:
You just got through top posting yourself! Do you have a rational
explanation for this? Or are you going to resort to your usual off the
wall rant?
You see this is how wars start, pastor frank cant make a valid
statement then invokes the top posting rule, then everyone starts
flaming and making up lies against one another, then pastor frank
brings up the topic of backpack nuclear devices and possible scenarios
of the final days of armagedon, then insists that praying to jesus is
only way the rightous will be saved while the minions of satan destroy
the world and everyone and everything on it. This is the antidote for
peace in the world.
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| User: "bluskie" |
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25 Oct 2004 02:51:19 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<qfNed.83$of.36@fe51.usenetserver.com>...
"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Morons, if all people in the world were atheists all the wars in the
name of religion would not exist, in fact no wars over land or gods
for jews and muslims and christians would exist, your ideology and
lies are the cause of the worlds problems, if all people lived
together in a one world government with all the worlds resources
belonging to all, all the evil in the name of your stupid false gods
and phoney idealism wouldnt exist, no wars would exist, everyone in
the world would have food, shelter, and live meaningful lives. Jesus
is a liar, pastor frank is a liar and is a atheist at heart, he admits
it.
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| User: "Angela la Fontaine" |
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30 Oct 2004 12:28:50 PM |
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"bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Morons, if all people in the world were atheists all the wars in the
name of religion would not exist, in fact no wars over land or gods
for jews and muslims and christians would exist, your ideology and
lies are the cause of the worlds problems, if all people lived
together in a one world government with all the worlds resources
belonging to all, all the evil in the name of your stupid false gods
and phoney idealism wouldnt exist, no wars would exist, everyone in
the world would have food, shelter, and live meaningful lives. Jesus
is a liar, pastor frank is a liar and is a atheist at heart, he admits
it.
Blusky, if no one believed in goodness, which is etymologically what the
word God means, everyone might be like you. That is, someone calling others
morons, for no reason beyond the absurdity of most theology, for no reason
except egocentrism. You're right in you notion that history shows that
religion, the teachings of people who understand goodness and try to pass
their awareness on to the rest of us, tends to die in bigotry and
egocentrism. But we have a choice not to die so ourselves, a choice of not
resorting to denial of the origin, or to hate like yours.
www.star.net/silence
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| User: "bluskie" |
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31 Oct 2004 07:55:16 AM |
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<mbQgd.551$fw2.426@trndny01>...
"bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Angela la Fontaine" <hitrt@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Morons, if all people in the world were atheists all the wars in the
name of religion would not exist,
Blusky, if no one believed in goodness, which is etymologically what the
word God means, everyone might be like you.
*****, the world is full of supposed good people like you, mass
murdering god loving lunatics.
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| User: "amoeba" |
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31 Oct 2004 11:38:43 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, bluskie wrote:
Blusky, if no one believed in goodness, which is etymologically what the
word God means, everyone might be like you.
*****, the world is full of supposed good people like you, mass
murdering god loving lunatics.
Either that or ineffectual cloud-heads who think they know some ultimate
illusionary whatiz & can barely deal with reality, if at all.
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| User: "amoeba" |
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30 Oct 2004 04:35:49 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Angela la Fontaine wrote:
Blusky, if no one believed in goodness, which is etymologically what the
word God means, everyone might be like you.
More stupid equivocations. God & goodness are not equivalent terms.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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04 Nov 2004 01:46:53 PM |
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"amoeba" <xeno@psuedopodia.rhizopod.protozoan> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Angela la Fontaine wrote:
Blusky, if no one believed in goodness, which is etymologically what the
word God means, everyone might be like you.
More stupid equivocations. God & goodness are not equivalent terms.
They most certainly are. But what would a self-confessed atheist know
about the term "God", other than that it meaning a non-existent and
invisible hairy old warrior in the sky? LOL
Pastor Frank
"GOD" The Christian meaning of the word according to scripture:
Jesus in Jn:4:24: GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth.
Jesus in John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7: If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that
dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
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