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User: "James"
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:21:42 AM
Object: Re: God Delusion

shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion
Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.

Hello,
Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..

Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.

Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.

"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.
If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)

Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.
I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.
Sincerely, James
***********************************
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User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: God Delusion 02 Nov 2006 01:14:05 PM
"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion


Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.


Hello,

Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..


Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.


Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.


"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.

If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)


Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.


There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.

I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.

You can only verify the tale in a fairy tale; you cannot even remotely show
it as truth.
BTW ........ Why would a mere human being have to stand between two of gods
(I assume) powerful angels and a crowd of other humans?
Couldn't they protect themselves? Couldn't the same god that "destroyed" two
cities, protect two angels?
Why didn't god just, as he had before, send a message in stead of two -
obviously impotent - messengers?
Since "gawd" had the power to destroy two cities .. why didn't god just
"beam them out"?
Naaaaaaa.......... it must have been more fun to play insane, childish,
silly assed, psychotic games with the whole scenario.
Turning the old lady to salt was an original torture, though.
IT'S A FAIRY TALE, moron!
and don't give me any of that "god works in mysterious ways" bull *****!
.

User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: God Delusion 02 Nov 2006 10:43:33 AM
Pure myth, fable and Biblical nonsense!
"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion


Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.


Hello,

Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..


Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.


Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.


"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.

If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)


Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.


There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.

I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.


Sincerely, James


***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************

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User: "Melchizedek"

Title: Re: God Delusion 02 Nov 2006 09:07:23 PM
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Pure myth, fable and Biblical nonsense!
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion


Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.


Hello,

Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..


Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.


Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.


"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.

If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)


Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.


There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.

I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.


Sincerely, James


***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************

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User: ""

Title: Re: God Delusion 02 Nov 2006 12:07:54 PM
Jahovahs witnesses are just another group of false prophets that reject
the work on the cross the Lord paid for everyone who just choose to
accept their salvation in sincere belief.Jahovah witnesses are just
another group of misled people who cherry pick scripture verses and
then add their own little fairytales to certain passages of the
bible.They actually think they can earn their way into heaven.No
unsaved(unpardoned) sinner could ever stand before God in heaven.His
eyes are too pure to look upon that vileness and every person is born
into sin in this fallen world.No matter how much "good" a person does
they still sin and are still in need of accepting their salvation,or
they are condemned by their own choosing because they chose to reject
their own salvation provided for them through God himself-the SON not
"a son".One of the thieves who was crucified next to the Lord Jesus
asked the Lord to remember him when the Lord came into His kingdom.The
thief most certainly did "earn" his way into heaven..now did he.Just to
make a point.
Bill M wrote:

Pure myth, fable and Biblical nonsense!

"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:da5kk2ddanfu3jpc7h3ct3rjm6dntmhe2p@4ax.com...

shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion


Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.


Hello,

Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..


Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.


Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.


"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.

If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)


Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.


There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.

I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.


Sincerely, James


***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************

.
User: ""

Title: Re: God Delusion 02 Nov 2006 12:10:19 PM
I meant the thief DID NOT earn his way into heaven...of course.
jp2006ocs@gmail.com wrote:

Jahovahs witnesses are just another group of false prophets that reject
the work on the cross the Lord paid for everyone who just choose to
accept their salvation in sincere belief.Jahovah witnesses are just
another group of misled people who cherry pick scripture verses and
then add their own little fairytales to certain passages of the
bible.They actually think they can earn their way into heaven.No
unsaved(unpardoned) sinner could ever stand before God in heaven.His
eyes are too pure to look upon that vileness and every person is born
into sin in this fallen world.No matter how much "good" a person does
they still sin and are still in need of accepting their salvation,or
they are condemned by their own choosing because they chose to reject
their own salvation provided for them through God himself-the SON not
"a son".One of the thieves who was crucified next to the Lord Jesus
asked the Lord to remember him when the Lord came into His kingdom.The
thief most certainly did "earn" his way into heaven..now did he.Just to
make a point.
Bill M wrote:

Pure myth, fable and Biblical nonsense!

"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:da5kk2ddanfu3jpc7h3ct3rjm6dntmhe2p@4ax.com...

shegnan59@hotmail.co.uk
Re: God Delusion


Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..
Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.
Lot offers his daughters instead.
Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh
justice)
Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.

This is a family that God selected to be saved.

Richard Dawkins once again highlights that the bible is merely a
collection of incredible stories.


Hello,

Lets take a second look at your 'incredible stories'. (when no
Scriptures are quoted to support the statements, just ask)

Two angels visit Lot to save him and his family..


Yes, the righteous Lot was warned by God before He destroyed that
wicked city. Thus God's servants can be confident that when God's
judgement day soon comes (Acts 17:31), His true servants will be
spared.

Men crowd outside wanting the said angels.


Yes, the degraded men (and boys) of Sodom wanted to have sex with
those male-looking angels. Since the angels were not willing, those
men wanted to rape them.

Lot offers his daughters instead.


"according to the Oriental code, it was a host's responsibility to
protect guests in his home, defending them even to the point of death
if necessary. Lot's words ("that is why [the two men] have come under
the shadow of my roof") show that he felt an obligation to protect his
houseguests." (taken from 1979 Watchtower, 12/1, p. 31.

If you want more details about this account, just ask.

Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt for being nosy. (Harsh justice)


Not for being just nosy or afraid to lose all her material possessions
etc, but for willingly disobeying a direct command ("Don't look
back"-Ge 19:17), that ultimately came from God since God sent those
angels.

Lot's daughters seduce him and become pregnant.


There was no direct command from God to do such a thing. But God dealt
with the situation nevertheless.

I hope the above information has shown you that Bible critics many
times 'distort' the Bible to make it appear in a negative way. But
just like those same Bible critics would no doubt look at context and
settings etc when studying ancient secular history to determine the
truth of a matter, they many times don't do that when discussing the
Bible, since their goal is to discredit the Bible. I hope you don't
fall for their trap.


Sincerely, James


***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************

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