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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Read The Bible"
Date: 25 Jun 2007 05:00:37 AM
Object: Re: God's hit rate

Andrew said:
According to Christians, God has only ever managed
to create one good being. Jesus Christ.

Actually, Jesus Himself is God and the Creator.
"The Word was God . . . And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us" (John 1:1,14).
"God was manifest in the flesh" (1 Timothy 3:16).
"All things were made by him; and without him was not
any thing made that was made" (John 1:3).
"By him were all things created" (Colossians 1:16).

Andrew said:
All the others either had no free will like the
angels, or were bad like the devil and humans.

It doesn't say that angels don't have free will. And
God didn't create the devil and humans as evil; they
became evil by their own free will.
"Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that
thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee"
(Ezekiel 28:15).
"God hath made man upright; but they have sought out
many inventions" (Ecclesiastes 7:29).

Andrew said:
His hit rate has so far been abysmal, and as yet he
hasn't been able to rectify the problem of creating
good beings without making them robots.

It doesn't say that the unfallen angels are robots.
Nor do Christian humans enter into the possibility of
being always-righteous by being made into robots;
instead, they are brought into the liberty and
righteousness of Jesus Christ by partaking of the
power of His Holy Spirit within them.
"The Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of
the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with open
face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord,
are changed into the same image from glory to glory,
even as by the Spirit of the Lord" (2 Corinthians
3:17-18).
"According as his divine power hath given unto us all
things that pertain unto life and godliness, through
the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and
virtue: whereby are given unto us exceeding great and
precious promises: that by these ye might be
partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the
corruption that is in the world through lust"
(2 Peter 1:3-4).
"Ye know that he was manifested to take away our
sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him
sinneth not" (1 John 3:5-6).
"Ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the
body" (Romans 8:13).

Andrew said:
Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the
truth, that we must leave no stone unturned.

Actually, Jesus Himself is the truth and the stone.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"
(John 14:6).
"Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture,
Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect,
precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be
confounded" (1 Peter 2:6).

Andrew said:
How naive and foolish is the man who thinks he can
get all the answers to life from one convenient
book.

It is the person of Jesus Christ Himself who has all
the answers to life, for in Him "are hid all the
treasures of wisdom and knowledge" (Colossians 2:3).
It is by His Word contained in the Bible that we can
be certain of being brought into true knowledge and
into true righteousness.
"If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples
indeed" (John 8:31).
"If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye
shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto
you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much
fruit; so shall ye be my disciples" (John 15:7-8).
.

User: "Joe Bol"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 27 Jun 2007 09:47:43 AM
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:25:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I don't know about that! I believe Jesus is pleased when we
truthfully, accurately proclaim His message!

You do not have that ability.
Examples follow:
------------
THE FOLLOWING HAVE BELIEVED THE GOSPEL:
"Go screw yourself, you self-deluded control freak!"
---John Weatherly
"you'd be amazed at the number of WOMEN who have REQUESTED anal
intercourse from me."
---John Weatherly
" I may end up being (posthumously) judged one of the Van Goghs of my time, or a Da
Vinci"
---John Weatherly
"Aren't you being a wee bit ego-centric?"
---John Weatherly
"Sorry, dearest, but you are exhibiting pathological (unhealthy)
behavior."
---John Weatherly
"I don't believe that Jesus appreciates your ad hominems.
And you may have noticed, I'm not ad homineming."
---John Weatherly
"I have a therapist."
---Olympiada
"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr. Raymond Knapp
"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr. Raymond Knapp
"Why don't you elaborate on one of your home brew doctrines and I can give you a
sample then you can cry and whine about insults and how injured you are."
---Reuben Hick
"See you in court."
---David C.
.
User: "Raymond"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 28 Jun 2007 09:41:13 PM
On Jun 27, 9:47 am, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:25:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp

"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp

You are trying to post like Steve Winter then he did misqoute me seven
times at the end of his sig.
I am not sure what you think you see in using these statements, how
about telling us what you think it says, then a big hurt, is something
no one wants, I did not want to use the kind of language you and Steve
used so big hurt would do and even a child would know what that means.
.
User: "Joe Bol"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 28 Jun 2007 10:18:49 PM
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:41:13 -0700, Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

On Jun 27, 9:47 am, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:25:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:



"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp

"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp


You are trying to post like Steve Winter then he did misqoute me seven
times at the end of his sig.

I am not sure what you think you see in using these statements,

For someone who brags so much regarding his education and who calls
himself "Dr." Knapp, perhaps you could take some lessons in basic
communication. Punctuation and spelling would be a good starting
point.
LK
.
User: "Raymond"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 29 Jun 2007 06:12:56 PM
On Jun 28, 10:18 pm, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:41:13 -0700, Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:

On Jun 27, 9:47 am, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:25:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp


"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp


You are trying to post like Steve Winter then he did misqoute me seven
times at the end of his sig.


I am not sure what you think you see in using these statements,


For someone who brags so much regarding his education and who calls
himself "Dr." Knapp, perhaps you could take some lessons in basic
communication. Punctuation and spelling would be a good starting
point.

No need, you would not understand it, Then I do not brag on my
education, others did that for me.
.
User: "Joe Bol"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 29 Jun 2007 06:51:23 PM
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:12:56 -0700, Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

On Jun 28, 10:18 pm, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:41:13 -0700, Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:

On Jun 27, 9:47 am, Joe Bol <notr...@notreal.com> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:25:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp


"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr.RaymondKnapp


You are trying to post like Steve Winter then he did misqoute me seven
times at the end of his sig.


I am not sure what you think you see in using these statements,


For someone who brags so much regarding his education and who calls
himself "Dr." Knapp, perhaps you could take some lessons in basic
communication. Punctuation and spelling would be a good starting
point.


No need, you would not understand it,

Evidently, you don't care either way.

Then I do not brag on my education, others did that for me.

Actually, you have bragged about it here and felt no need to justify
your "Bedroom Bible School" degrees when others asked specific
questions regarding them.
KL
------------
THE FOLLOWING HAVE BELIEVED THE GOSPEL:
"Go screw yourself, you self-deluded control freak!"
---John Weatherly
"you'd be amazed at the number of WOMEN who have REQUESTED anal
intercourse from me."
---John Weatherly
" I may end up being (posthumously) judged one of the Van Goghs of my time, or a Da
Vinci"
---John Weatherly
"Aren't you being a wee bit ego-centric?"
---John Weatherly
"Sorry, dearest, but you are exhibiting pathological (unhealthy)
behavior."
---John Weatherly
"I don't believe that Jesus appreciates your ad hominems.
And you may have noticed, I'm not ad homineming."
---John Weatherly
"I have a therapist."
---Olympiada
"ignorants is not an excuse"
---Dr. Raymond Knapp
"...he met up with one of the people he been curseing and
lying about and they did him a big hurt?"
---Dr. Raymond Knapp
"Why don't you elaborate on one of your home brew doctrines and I can give you a
sample then you can cry and whine about insults and how injured you are."
---Reuben Hick
"See you in court."
---David C.
.





User: "RedFox"

Title: Re: God's hit rate 26 Jun 2007 07:15:35 PM
In article <1182765637.055263.17680@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Read The
Bible <bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote:

Actually, Jesus Himself is God and the Creator.

That is about as well evidenced as saying your mother in law is the devil.
I mean we can all make these assertions - for example
In ancient Egypt catfood was sprinkled with Gold dust (rubbish)
In the seventeenth century Francisco Diego built a vehicle that ran on
goats milk. The inquisition burnt him as a heretic (rubbish)
If you read books upside-down it stimulates the left hemisphere of the
brain (rubbish)
+++++++++
The existence of this one is true:
In Africa some me believe that having sex with a virgin cures AIDS - -
girls have been raped and died of AIDS because of this
+++
Some myths are harmless - some are not Christianity has many myths that
have become dogma their main evil is that they prevent the progress of
thought and are divisive - Here are some
Jesus died for the sins of the world (atonement theology - rubbish)
Jesus was executed by the Jews or on the authority of the Jews for
blasphemy (rubbish - he was executed for sedition by the Romans)
The world was created by God in six days (rubbish)
Original sin (rubbish)
transubstantiation (rubbish - now generally recognised as such)
The trinity ( bbish theology from centuries after Jesuses death)
The Fundamentals of Christianity are as claimed by the "Fundamentalist"
Movement (a lie)
The Bible is the Word of God (rubbish - it is a collection of human
written documents)
Snakes used to have legs and talk to people (codswallop)
God parted the Red Sea so people could cross it - with the water forming
curtains either side of dry land (rubbish)
Asses talk (only from the pulpit)
+++++++++++++++++++
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