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Date: 17 Dec 2006 05:29:47 PM
Object: Re: Hanukkah a Minor Holiday Used to Undermine America's Cultural Foundation
joss wrote:

NJ Mayor-Elect: 'Christian Envy' Fuels Menorah Ritual

2006-12-16

Jewish political figure slams religious ceremony

Lou Young reporting

(CBS) The bed for baby Jesus sits only a few feet from the large
silver menorah out in front of Borough Hall.

But the ongoing controversy over religious displays on public land
continues to fester here. The Borough Council has been in a running
fight with the local menorah committee over whether to allow a public
candle lighting ceremony during Hanukkah, the Jewish Festival of
Lights. It's the talk of the town and most people seem to think the
ceremony should be allowed to go on.

Usually these controversies involve a certain amount of tension
between Christians and Jews, but here in Closter there's something
else at work: Jewish politicians -- namely the mayor and the mayor-
elect -- who feel the increasingly popular public menorah lighting
ceremonies are an aberration, a departure from tradition that don't
belong on public land.

Mayor-elect Sophie Heyman, the current council president, said she
opposes any religious gatherings on government property but holds
special scorn for the Jews who've held the large, often noisy
gathering on the first night of Hanukkah years past.

"It's Christian envy as far as I'm concerned," she told CBS 2. "It's
not the Jewish way and it's not my religion. I think they are going
off on an inappropriate tangent by trying to make a public celebration
out of a minor holiday."

Heyman said she is an observant Jew.

The current Mayor Fred Pitofsky agrees.

"I think it should be a private thing, in a home or a synagogue,"
Pitofsky said.

Besides, he adds, "It's been disruptive. There are traffic, safety and
pedestrian safety issues."

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_348230529.html

*******************

As the mayor says, Hanukkah is "a minor holiday" for Jews. It has been
hyped by Jewish supremacist groups to undermine the Christian (and, by
extension, White) basis of the United States, serving a similar
function to Kwanzaa. All revolutionary changes are accompanied by the
undermining and replacement of the traditional names, histories and
celebrations of the conquered people, from St. Petersburg's renaming
as Leningrad to Pol Pot's Year Zero. The fact that Hannukah is now
closely linked to Jewish ethnic politics is highlighted in a column by
Rabbi Levi Brackman.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3340419,00.html
A similar column from a White Christian religious figure about the ill
effects of outside ethno-religious symbolism would provoke hysteria,
of course.

FYI
ted
.

User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re:Our Christian heretige? 17 Dec 2006 05:49:31 PM
Our religious heritige?
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children,
since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined,
imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has
been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other
half hypocrites. To support roguery and error
all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782; from
George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel
Press, 1983, p. 363.)
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joss wrote:

NJ Mayor-Elect: 'Christian Envy' Fuels Menorah Ritual

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User: "Opie"

Title: Re: Re:Our Christian heretige? 17 Dec 2006 06:06:25 PM
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:49:31 -0500, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
wrote:
Our religious heritige?
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and
children,
since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured,
fined,
imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What
has
been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools and the
other
half hypocrites. To support roguery and error
all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782; from
George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel
Press, 1983, p. 363.)
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joss wrote:

NJ Mayor-Elect: 'Christian Envy' Fuels Menorah Ritual

The same applies to people of all faiths. What's your point?
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User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: Hanukkah a Minor Holiday Used to Undermine America's Cultural Foundation 17 Dec 2006 05:46:11 PM
Why so many Christian fanatics that hate Jews while celebrating the Jew in
the manger?
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joss wrote:

NJ Mayor-Elect: 'Christian Envy' Fuels Menorah Ritual

2006-12-16

Jewish political figure slams religious ceremony

Lou Young reporting

(CBS) The bed for baby Jesus sits only a few feet from the large
silver menorah out in front of Borough Hall.

But the ongoing controversy over religious displays on public land
continues to fester here. The Borough Council has been in a running
fight with the local menorah committee over whether to allow a public
candle lighting ceremony during Hanukkah, the Jewish Festival of
Lights. It's the talk of the town and most people seem to think the
ceremony should be allowed to go on.

Usually these controversies involve a certain amount of tension
between Christians and Jews, but here in Closter there's something
else at work: Jewish politicians -- namely the mayor and the mayor-
elect -- who feel the increasingly popular public menorah lighting
ceremonies are an aberration, a departure from tradition that don't
belong on public land.

Mayor-elect Sophie Heyman, the current council president, said she
opposes any religious gatherings on government property but holds
special scorn for the Jews who've held the large, often noisy
gathering on the first night of Hanukkah years past.

"It's Christian envy as far as I'm concerned," she told CBS 2. "It's
not the Jewish way and it's not my religion. I think they are going
off on an inappropriate tangent by trying to make a public celebration
out of a minor holiday."

Heyman said she is an observant Jew.

The current Mayor Fred Pitofsky agrees.

"I think it should be a private thing, in a home or a synagogue,"
Pitofsky said.

Besides, he adds, "It's been disruptive. There are traffic, safety and
pedestrian safety issues."

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_348230529.html

*******************

As the mayor says, Hanukkah is "a minor holiday" for Jews. It has been
hyped by Jewish supremacist groups to undermine the Christian (and, by
extension, White) basis of the United States, serving a similar
function to Kwanzaa. All revolutionary changes are accompanied by the
undermining and replacement of the traditional names, histories and
celebrations of the conquered people, from St. Petersburg's renaming
as Leningrad to Pol Pot's Year Zero. The fact that Hannukah is now
closely linked to Jewish ethnic politics is highlighted in a column by
Rabbi Levi Brackman.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3340419,00.html
A similar column from a White Christian religious figure about the ill
effects of outside ethno-religious symbolism would provoke hysteria,
of course.


FYI

ted

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