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"Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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29 Sep 2005 03:51:46 PM |
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Re: Homosexuality is WRONG |
"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals because
they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does not follow that
*all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am absolutely sure that many
homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
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29 Sep 2005 06:21:34 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals
because they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does
not follow that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am
absolutely sure that many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual and
that's a non sequitur also.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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05 Oct 2005 06:51:40 PM |
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"God Bless my Land Yacht" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals because
they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does not follow
that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am absolutely sure that
many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual and
that's a non sequitur also.
Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
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| User: "bruce" |
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05 Oct 2005 06:45:18 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
Mankind has no other choice but to accept Christ, those who do not have no
rights and will face the wrath of the faithful!
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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05 Oct 2005 06:58:29 PM |
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"bruce" <bruce7@comcable.net> wrote in
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
That was the sand pit monster in
Revenge Of The Jedi, right?
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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06 Oct 2005 05:17:05 PM |
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"bruce" <bruce7@comcable.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
Not backed by any scripture, your "Arch-Daemon Beelzebub" if he ever truly
exists will have no power, and will burn in the lake of fire, just like
Satan, the Beast, and the false-prophet
Mankind has no other choice but to accept Christ, those who do not have no
rights and will face the wrath of the faithful!
God's will cannot fail to happen 1Tim.2:3-4 ! I am not very worried, that
isn't saying that people won't go to hell, but see 1 Cor. 3:11-15 for what
happens to they who go there
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| User: "bruce" |
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06 Oct 2005 05:25:14 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"bruce" <bruce7@comcable.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
Not backed by any scripture, your "Arch-Daemon Beelzebub" if he ever truly
exists will have no power, and will burn in the lake of fire, just like
Satan, the Beast, and the false-prophet
Mankind has no other choice but to accept Christ, those who do not have no
rights and will face the wrath of the faithful!
God's will cannot fail to happen 1Tim.2:3-4 ! I am not very worried, that
isn't saying that people won't go to hell, but see 1 Cor. 3:11-15 for what
happens to they who go there
You spill the lies of Satan.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality is WRONG |
13 Oct 2005 08:07:35 PM |
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The Bible is Satan ?
"bruce" <bruce7@comcable.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"bruce" <bruce7@comcable.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that
either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to
be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
Not backed by any scripture, your "Arch-Daemon Beelzebub" if he ever
truly
exists will have no power, and will burn in the lake of fire, just like
Satan, the Beast, and the false-prophet
Mankind has no other choice but to accept Christ, those who do not have
no
rights and will face the wrath of the faithful!
God's will cannot fail to happen 1Tim.2:3-4 ! I am not very worried, that
isn't saying that people won't go to hell, but see 1 Cor. 3:11-15 for
what
happens to they who go there
You spill the lies of Satan.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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05 Oct 2005 07:13:31 PM |
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:45:18 -0400, "bruce"
<bruce7@comcable.net> spake thusly:
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote> Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
Those who refuse to accept Jesus as their Holy Saviour are condemned to be
slowly tortured in the bowels of Hell by the Arch-Daemon Beelzebub!
Daemon? I didn't know he was a Ferengi! :)
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree;
he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon. Those that
are planted in the house of Jehovah shall flourish
in the courts of our God." - Psalm 92:12-13
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| User: "God Bless my Land Yacht" |
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05 Oct 2005 07:24:36 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of
idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals
because they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does
not follow that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am
absolutely sure that many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual
and that's a non sequitur also.
Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
It's more fun to just yank their chain rather than trying to use logic
on them.
The concept of the trinity can be found nowhere in the Bible. It was
given to Christians by a pagan. Most of them believe in it without
question. They are beyond logic. If you say anything that makes too
much sense, they will just write you off as a tool of the devil.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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06 Oct 2005 05:22:39 PM |
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"God Bless my Land Yacht" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
Roman 1:25-27 doesn't say that either
See above
It's more fun to just yank their chain rather than trying to use logic on
them.
No argument from me !
The concept of the trinity can be found nowhere in the Bible.
Agreed, not all of us who call ourselves Christians accept the trinity
doctrine, there are many debates in these newsgroups which prove this.
It was given to Christians by a pagan.
Could be, I wouldn't know, wasn't there when the idea got started :-)
Most of them believe in it without question. They are beyond logic. If
you say anything that makes too much sense, they will just write you off
as a tool of the devil.
So I have been accused
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality is WRONG |
29 Sep 2005 11:14:03 PM |
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God Bless my Land Yacht wrote:
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals
because they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does
not follow that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am
absolutely sure that many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual and
that's a non sequitur also.
Just for the record, you are no better than an idol worshipping Hindu, as
you both worship an imaginary thing.
The Hindus however worship with a degree of honesty - 'There is our god [an
idol] we worship it all together'. At least they do not have to invent a
'times three' god to convince the sceptics who ask where it is.
Honest.
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| User: "God Bless my Land Yacht" |
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01 Oct 2005 06:39:29 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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God Bless my Land Yacht wrote:
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of
idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals
because they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does
not follow that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am
absolutely sure that many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual
and
that's a non sequitur also.
Just for the record, you are no better than an idol worshipping Hindu,
as
you both worship an imaginary thing.
I never said I was better.
The Hindus however worship with a degree of honesty - 'There is our
god [an
idol] we worship it all together'. At least they do not have to
invent a
'times three' god to convince the sceptics who ask where it is.
Honest.
No mention of the trinity can be found in the New Testament. The
concept was actually given to the Christians by a pagan centuries after
the death of Christ, yet most of them follow it blindly without
question. I'm surprised more of them don't continue to believe in Santa
and the Easter Bunny through adulthood.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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05 Oct 2005 06:55:46 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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God Bless my Land Yacht wrote:
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals
because they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does
not follow that *all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am
absolutely sure that many homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
It would also mean all idol worshiping Hindu would become homosexual and
that's a non sequitur also.
Just for the record, you are no better than an idol worshipping Hindu, as
you both worship an imaginary thing.
I see, so God the Father of Jesus is an "imaginary thing", for it is He that
I worship, in His Son Jesus' Holy name, amen.
The Hindus however worship with a degree of honesty - 'There is our god
[an
idol] we worship it all together'. At least they do not have to invent a
'times three' god to convince the sceptics who ask where it is.
Nor have I had to do anything of the like, why do you assume to know what
*I* believe ???
Honest.
More like Confused
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| User: "bob young" |
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29 Sep 2005 11:09:02 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote:
"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals because
they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does not follow that
*all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am absolutely sure that many
homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
<SNIP>
I'm pretty sure NONE of them are. When evolution sets out the gene package for
each individual, there is always a diverse mix. Some people will never kill,
some dream of it nightly [a very small minority. Some would never steal, some
are kleptomaniacs. Some have no interest in sex of any kind, some are very
sexually oriented and a few are attracted to the same sex. It is as simple as
that.
Idols are what early Christians feared may take away the followers of THEIR
imaginary god. Idols are of course a threat, as you can see them. You cannot
see the ethereal gods, since they do not exist. Worshiping anything other
than humankind is primitive.
Bob
humanist brit.
Hong Kong
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<p>> Romans 1:25-27 shows that homosexuality is a consequence of idolatry.
<p>Wrong, it shows that certian people were turned into homosexuals because
<br>they *themselves* *personally* committted idolatry. It does not follow
that
<br>*all* homosexuals have commited that sin, I am absolutely sure that
many
<br>homosexuals are not guilty of idolatry
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I'm pretty sure NONE of them are. When evolution sets out the gene package
for each individual, there is always a diverse mix. Some people will
never kill, some dream of it nightly [a very small minority. Some
would never steal, some are kleptomaniacs. Some have no interest
in sex of any kind, some are very sexually oriented and a few are attracted
to the same sex. It is as simple as that.
<p>Idols are what early Christians feared may take away the followers of
THEIR imaginary god. Idols are of course a threat, as you can see
them. You cannot see the ethereal gods, since they do not exist.
Worshiping anything other than humankind is primitive.
<p>Bob
<br>humanist brit.
<br>Hong Kong
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