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User: "Peacenik"
Date: 24 Feb 2004 11:19:21 AM
Object: Re: How does gay marriage benefit society?
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:15:31 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:21:57 -0500, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

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"Matt Silberstein" <matts2nopam@ix netcom.nospamcom> wrote in

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In alt.religion.christian I read this message from "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>:


"Fletch F. Fletch" <notme31415@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Doesn't say much for their intelligence levels, if they

know

that

the

marriage license is not valid and they still pay that

much

money.


Can't you figure out that they are making a point and $150

is

a

small

price

to pay? Now, for all of those rednecks that voluntarily

turn

over

their

money for the daily number, I have no answer.

Where is the outrage? A few months ago liberals were

screaming

over a

judge

placing the 10 commandments in public view.


If a similarly-sized monument were installed for each of

the

1000s

of

religions, where would we put the judge?

They are so quiet with this liberal mayor violating the

law.


Actually they are not violating the law.

Most likely they are

giving piece of paper with no legal value. The court will
determine if the paper has value.


Meanwhile, while they hand it out people are giving the city

money

for

something that is worthless.


You expect outrage from people over violation of a law they

consider

unconstitutional? Someone must challenge the law for it to

be

struck

down,

no?



So it is ok for someone to violate a law you don't like.
But it isn't ok for that judge to stand up for what he

believed

in.

That is a double standard


Yes, judges are held to a different standard.


I don't think that is the case at all.
I think what it is, is people are held to different standards

based

on

the

issue.


In their official

capacity they are expected to uphold and follow all

appropriate

laws and rulings.


Mayors don't have any obligation to law and orders?

Do you really want to advocate anarchy in order

to get a graven image in the court house?


I saw absolutely nothing wrong with something that has 10 basic

laws

that

everyone should obey


Ah. You think nothing of requiring everyone to worship the Xtian

god?


It isn't I that requires that.
And it isn't just Christians who should respect Gods laws.


So, you seriously think that non-Xtians should be compelled to

worship

the Xtian god? First law on the list, as I recall.




You think nothing of making laws that would trample religious

freedom?


Problem is, you are not thinking.


I'm asking you why you think that laws requiring worship of the

Xtian

god should be forced on non-Xtians, Bobby.


Gods law comes above everything else. Period.


Sorry, but the U.S. is not a theocracy. If you would feel more

comfortable

in a theocracy, I suggest one of the many highly sought after homes in

one

of the Muslim countris. Your type will love it there.


Sorry you have to be like that.

He's just being truthful.
If America becomes a land where god's laws reaign above all other laws, then
America would be no different from Saudi Arabia or Iran, except in the
religion that reaigns.
Would you like to live in Saudi Arabia or Iran? No? Why? Because their
religions are not yours. Well, if America followed YOUR religion, everyone
in America who did NOT follow your religion would feel exactly as if they
were living in Saudi Arabia or Iran. (And MOST people in the US, though
Christian, do not folow the tenets of your particular sect of Christianity.)
So by saying that America law should follow the laws of YOUR particular sect
and no other, you are being supremely selfish.
--
Peacenik
.

User: "Light Templar"

Title: Re: How does gay marriage benefit society? 24 Feb 2004 04:22:15 PM
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:15:31 -0500, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:21:57 -0500, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


"Matt Silberstein" <matts2nopam@ix netcom.nospamcom> wrote in

message

news:1rgi30hpfg3n7nnqpn0cal38giid5qlh3f@4ax.com...

In alt.religion.christian I read this message from "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>:


"Fletch F. Fletch" <notme31415@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OU6_b.69472$KV5.17535@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

Doesn't say much for their intelligence levels, if they

know

that

the

marriage license is not valid and they still pay that

much

money.


Can't you figure out that they are making a point and

$150

is

a

small

price

to pay? Now, for all of those rednecks that voluntarily

turn

over

their

money for the daily number, I have no answer.

Where is the outrage? A few months ago liberals were

screaming

over a

judge

placing the 10 commandments in public view.


If a similarly-sized monument were installed for each of

the

1000s

of

religions, where would we put the judge?

They are so quiet with this liberal mayor violating the

law.


Actually they are not violating the law.

Most likely they are

giving piece of paper with no legal value. The court will
determine if the paper has value.


Meanwhile, while they hand it out people are giving the city

money

for

something that is worthless.


You expect outrage from people over violation of a law

they

consider

unconstitutional? Someone must challenge the law for it

to

be

struck

down,

no?



So it is ok for someone to violate a law you don't like.
But it isn't ok for that judge to stand up for what he

believed

in.

That is a double standard


Yes, judges are held to a different standard.


I don't think that is the case at all.
I think what it is, is people are held to different standards

based

on

the

issue.


In their official

capacity they are expected to uphold and follow all

appropriate

laws and rulings.


Mayors don't have any obligation to law and orders?

Do you really want to advocate anarchy in order

to get a graven image in the court house?


I saw absolutely nothing wrong with something that has 10

basic

laws

that

everyone should obey


Ah. You think nothing of requiring everyone to worship the

Xtian

god?


It isn't I that requires that.
And it isn't just Christians who should respect Gods laws.


So, you seriously think that non-Xtians should be compelled to

worship

the Xtian god? First law on the list, as I recall.




You think nothing of making laws that would trample religious

freedom?


Problem is, you are not thinking.


I'm asking you why you think that laws requiring worship of the

Xtian

god should be forced on non-Xtians, Bobby.


Gods law comes above everything else. Period.


Sorry, but the U.S. is not a theocracy. If you would feel more

comfortable

in a theocracy, I suggest one of the many highly sought after homes in

one

of the Muslim countris. Your type will love it there.


Sorry you have to be like that.


He's just being truthful.

If America becomes a land where god's laws reaign above all other laws,

then

America would be no different from Saudi Arabia or Iran, except in the
religion that reaigns.

Would you like to live in Saudi Arabia or Iran? No? Why? Because their
religions are not yours. Well, if America followed YOUR religion, everyone
in America who did NOT follow your religion would feel exactly as if they
were living in Saudi Arabia or Iran. (And MOST people in the US, though
Christian, do not folow the tenets of your particular sect of

Christianity.)


So by saying that America law should follow the laws of YOUR particular

sect

and no other, you are being supremely selfish.

--
Peacenik


The sad fact is that if the U.S. were to ever become a theocracy, the
theocrats would most certainly leap at each other's throats in an effort to
become the dominate theists. The war would never end.
.


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