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"James" |
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22 Oct 2006 12:28:29 PM |
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Re: Jesus is God |
Chellie <TNotch1@aol.com>
Re: Jesus is God
Pahu wrote:
GOD:
"I will seek the lost and bring back the scattered" (Ezekiel
34:16).
JESUS:
"For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was
lost" (Luke 19:10).
If we would enter eternal life,
we must repent of our sins,
submit to Jesus Christ as Lord
and obey His
Ten Commandment Law.
I agree: Jesus Christ is God. Matthew 1:23 is very good proof. Isaiah
9:6 isn't too bad either.
Hello,
Yet the Bible shows Jesus couldn't possibly be Almighty God. Jesus was
created, but God always lived.
Jesus created: Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
God always lived: Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Staying with that last thought, Jesus also died and was buried. (1 Co
15:3) If Jesus was God that meant that God died. But that would
contradict the inspired writing at Ps 90:2.
No, according to the Bible (and not men's teachings), Jesus was God's
"Son', just as the angel Gabriel announced to the virgin girl Mary. Lu
1:30-32,
" 30. But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have
found favor with God.
31. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to
give him the name Jesus.
32. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.
The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, " (NIV)
A son is not his father.
Concerning Mt 1:23 look at the verse closely. It reads:
""The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they
will call him Immanuel" --which means, "God with us.""
At Mt 1:23, the name "Immanuel" has the word God in it, but so does a
lot of other Jewish names, which was the common practice at the time.
For example, the name "Elihu" means "God is he". Of course, Elihu
never claimed he was God. If faithful patriarchs of old had God's name
as part of their name, it would be no surprise that God's Son would
also have names or titles applied to him that had God's name in them.
Concerning Isa 9:6, it reads:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government
will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (NIV)
If your reference is particularly referring to the "Mighty God" part,
notice Isaiah did not use the expression "El Shaddai" (God Almighty)
but instead used "El Gibbohr" (Mighty God). This shows that Isaiah was
saying that Jesus is god-like but is not Almighty God. (Jehovah)
Remember, if humans and the Devil can be called "gods" certainly Jesus
could. (See Ps 82:1-6; Joh 10:34,35; 2 Co 4:4; 1 Co 8:5,6)
Yes, the Bible shows Jesus to be a created "Son" of God, not God
Almighty. Thus the post-Biblical doctrine of men, the Trinity, finds
no basis in the inspired written word of God, the Holy Bible. ( 2 Ti
3:16)
Sincerely, James
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| User: "Dan" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus is God |
22 Oct 2006 12:55:44 PM |
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Yet the Bible shows Jesus couldn't possibly be Almighty God. Jesus was
created, but God always lived.
Jesus created: Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Read the book of Hebrews and re-post please.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus is God |
22 Oct 2006 07:22:08 PM |
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Dan wrote:
Yet the Bible shows Jesus couldn't possibly be Almighty God. Jesus was
created, but God always lived.
Jesus created: Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Read the book of Hebrews and re-post please.
Listen to Chris Tomlin's "Uncreated One."
-posterguy
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