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Religions > Bible |
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"James" |
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12 Oct 2006 02:23:15 PM |
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Re: Jesus Said |
"Pahu" <pahu70@yahoo.com>
Re: Jesus Said
"The Son of Man did not come to be served,
but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many"
Mark 10:45.
Can a good, honest, sane man say this?
Can God say this?
Hello,
No God didn't say this. God cannot die. Since Jesus died, Jesus cannot
be God. Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
But Jesus can say that. If you don't understand what the ransom
arrangement is all about, I will try to explain it to you so that you
will now know.
The first man, Adam, was perfect. By his disobedience, he lost
perfection for himself, and all of his offspring. He lost his perfect
life in his perfect physical body. Thus it would take another perfect
life in another perfect physical body to gain back what Adam lost.
That person was Jesus. (the only other perfect man to walk this earth)
The scripture at De 19:21 shows God's pattern of thinking:
"... soul will be for soul, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for
hand, foot for foot."
Thus things were to be equal.
At 1 Tim 2:6 it reads, "who gave himself a corresponding ransom for
all-[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times"
(NWT)
Jesus is even called "Adam" in a figurative sense showing the
similarity. 1 Co 15:45 reads,
"So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ; the
last Adam, a life-giving spirit." (NIV)
So the ransom of Jesus Christ had to be of an equal nature to Adam.
Adam was a man, not a God-man or angel-man. Adam was a perfect human
to start with and showed everyone at the time that a perfect human
would not obey God.
Jesus was a mighty spirit person before he had his personality
transferred to the womb of Mary. At that point he became a perfect man
just like Adam had been before he sinned. Now it could be shown that a
perfect human could remain faithful and obey God. The ransom had to be
a corresponding or equal one.
I hope this has helped to answer your question.
Sincerely, James
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| User: "Tornado" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Said |
12 Oct 2006 04:54:20 PM |
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In article <255ti2ts03d6kbo3c1kif6085psbu4708k@4ax.com>, James
<bireda@allvantage.com> wrote:
Jesus was a mighty spirit person before he had his personality
transferred to the womb of Mary. At that point he became a perfect man
just like Adam had been before he sinned. Now it could be shown that a
perfect human could remain faithful and obey God. The ransom had to be
a corresponding or equal one.
I hope this has helped to answer your question.
no I am afraid it is a crock of Pauline *****
Makes NO sense whatsoever
Pure drivel
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