We applaud and bless+ the America patriots informing us about Kerry's
wickedness.

Turning away from President Bush and the godly Republican Party to
Kerry and the atheistic socialist Democratic Party would be like
departing the Holy Orthodox Church for some noxious "church" of
Protestant heretics.

God bless+ America!

+BORIS


SILVER BLAZE <pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote in message
news:<1094520423.382471@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net>...

In article <413CED61.A3E92E10@cowboy.net>,
William Boyd <william@cowboy.net> wrote:

. Word has it that Hairy John Kerry is afraid to get within a city
block
. of
. Olie North. He won't go inside the National Capitol Building if
he
. knows
. North is going to be there that day. He has good reason to feel
that
. way. That craven and effete had dude best stay away from Olie !
. McDave
. =========================================================
.
. Bring it on, John
.
. by: Oliver North
.
. August 27, 2004
.
. "Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never
question
. my
. service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded
. attack
. group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our
. service
. in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'" -- Sen. John Kerry
.
. Dear John,
.
. As usual, you have it wrong. You don't have a beef with President
George
. Bush about your war record. He's been exceedingly generous about
your
. military service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who
. served
. honorably in a war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the
. president,
. made the centerpiece of this campaign.
.
. I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your
medals
. or
. how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.
I
. only
. have two Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I
could
. stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might
agree
. with
. me, though I've never heard you say it, that the officers always
got
. more
. medals than they earned and the youngsters we led never got as many
. medals
. as they deserved.
.
. This really isn't about how early you came home from that war,
either,
. John. There have always been guys in every war who want to go home.
. There
. are also lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam,
who
. did
. a
. full 13 months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of
young
. Americans today in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return
to war
. because, as one of them told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, "the job
. isn't
. finished."
.
. Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve,
1968.
. Heck
. John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say
so.
. Your
. campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren't in
. Cambodia
. that night and that Richard Nixon wasn't really president when you
. thought
. he was. Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could
have all
. that bogus stuff "seared" into your memory -- especially since you
want
. to
. have your finger on our nation's nuclear trigger.
.
. But that's not really the problem, either. The trouble you're
having,
. John,
. isn't about your medals or coming home early or getting lost -- or
even
. Richard Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home,
John.
.
. When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War
and
. wrote "The New Soldier," which denounced those of us who served --
and
. were
. still serving -- on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of
all,
. John,
. you then accused me -- and all of us who served in Vietnam -- of
. committing
. terrible crimes and atrocities.
.
. On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign
Relations
. Committee that you had knowledge that American troops "had
personally
. raped,
. cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones
to
. human
. genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies,
. randomly
. shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis
. Khan,
. shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally
. ravaged
. the country side of South Vietnam." And you admitted on television
that
. "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of
other
. soldiers have committed."
.
. And for good measure you stated, "(America is) more guilty than
any
. other
. body, of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions ... the torture of
. prisoners, the killing of prisoners."
.
. Your "antiwar" statements and activities were painful for those of
us
. carrying the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives.
And
. for
. those who were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who
. suffered
. the most from what you said and did were the hundreds of American
. prisoners
. of war being held by Hanoi. Here's what some of them endured
because of
. you,
. John:
.
. Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese
custody
. when
. he was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says
that
. for
. his captors, your statements "were proof I deserved to be
punished." He
. wasn't released until March 14, 1973.
.
. Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese
custody
. for
. 2,284 days, says his captors "repeated incessantly" your one-liner
about
. being "the last man to die" for a lost cause. Cordier was released
March
. 4,
. 1973.
.
. Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations "were as demoralizing
as
. solitary (confinement) ... and a prime reason the war dragged on."
He
. remained in North Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973.
.
. John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked
about
. your
. claim that you and others in Vietnam committed "atrocities,"
instead of
. standing by your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words
"were a
. bit
. over the top." Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean
you
. are a
. war criminal? You can't have this one both ways, John. Either way,
. you're
. not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in
. chief.
.
. One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: "I would like to
say
. something ... to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain
I
. caused
. to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to
help end
. the
. killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless
and
. careless about it and I'm ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I
want to
. apologize to them and their families."
.
. Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?

. PASS IT ON!!!!!


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What Traitor KKKerry really said of Vietnam Veterans

http://www.pbs.org/greatspeeches/timeline/j_kerry_s.html

John Kerry, testifying before the House Foreign Relations Committee,
questions the War in Vietnam, Washington, D.C., April 22, 1971.

Thank you very much, Senator Fulbright, Senator Javits, Senator
Symington and Senator Pell.

I would like to say for the record, and also for the men sitting behind
me who are also wearing the uniforms and their medals, that my sitting
here is really symbolic. I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one
member of a group of 1,000, which is a small representation of a very
much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for
all of them to sit at this table, they would be here and have the same
kind of testimony. I would simply like to speak in general terms. I
apologize if my statement is general because I received notification
[only] yesterday that you would hear me, and, I am afraid, because of
the injunction I was up most of the night and haven't had a great deal
of chance to prepare.

I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that
several months ago, in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over
150 honorably discharged, and many very highly decorated, veterans
testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not
isolated incidents, but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis, with the
full awareness of officers at all levels of command. It is impossible to
describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit--the emotions in the
room, and the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in
Vietnam. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a
sense, made them do.

They told stories that, at times, they had personally raped, cut off
ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human
genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies,
randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of
Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and
generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam,in addition to the
normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which
is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We call this investigation the Winter Soldier Investigation. The term
"winter soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776, when he
spoke of the "sunshine patriots," and "summertime soldiers" who deserted
at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we
have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country, we
could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went
on in Vietnam, but we feel, because of what threatens this country, not
the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that
we have to speak out.

I would like to talk to you a little bit about what the result is of the
feelings these men carry with them after coming back from Vietnam. The
country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in
the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in
violence, and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in
history; men who have returned with a sense of anger and a sense of
betrayal which no one has yet grasped.

As a veteran and one who felt this anger, I would like to talk about it.
We are angry because we feel we have been used it the worst fashion by
the administration of this country.

In 1970, at West Point, Vice President Agnew said, "some glamorize the
criminal misfits of society while our best men die in Asian rice paddies
to preserve the freedom which most of those misfits abuse," and this was
used as a rallying point for our effort in Vietnam.

But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was supposed to support,
his statement is a terrible distortion from which we can only draw a
very deep sense of revulsion. Hence the anger of some of the men who are
here in Washington today. It is a distortion because we in no way
consider ourselves the best men of this country, because those he calls
misfits were standing up for us in a way that nobody else in this
country dared to, because so many who have died would have returned to
this country to join the misfits in their efforts to ask for an
immediate withdrawal from South Vietnam, because so many of those best
men have returned as quadriplegics and amputees, and they lie forgotten
in Veterans' Administration hospitals in this country which fly the flag
which so many have chosen as their own personal symbol. And we cannot
consider ourselves America's best men when we are ashamed of and hated
what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia.

In our opinion, and from our experience, there is nothing in South
Vietnam which could happen that realistically threatens the United
States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American
life in Vietnam, Cambodia, or Laos by linking such loss to the
preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us
the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which
we feel has torn this country apart.

We found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by a people who had
for years been seeking their liberation from any colonial influence
whatsoever, but, also, we found that the Vietnamese, whom we had
enthusiastically molded after our own image, were hard-put to take up
the fight against the threat we were supposedly saving them from.

We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism
and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without
helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages
and tearing their country apart. They wanted everything to do with the
war, particularly with this foreign presence of the United States of
America, to leave them alone in peace, and they practiced the art of
survival by siding with whichever military force was present at a
particular time, be it Viet Cong, North Vietnamese or American.

We found also that, all too often, American men were dying in those rice
paddies for want of support from their allies. We saw first hand how
monies from American taxes were used for a corrupt dictatorial regime.
We saw that many people in this country had a one-sided idea of who was
kept free by the flag, and blacks provided the highest percentage of
casualties. We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs and
search-and-destroy missions as well as by Viet Cong terrorism, - and yet
we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the
Viet Cong.

We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them. We saw
America lose her sense of morality as she accepted very coolly a My Lai,
and refused to give up the image of American soldiers who hand out
chocolate bars and chewing gum.

We learned the meaning of free-fire zones--shooting anything that
moves--and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of
orientals.

We watched the United States falsification of body counts, in fact the
glorification of body counts. We listened while, month after month, we
were told the back of the enemy was about to break. We fought using
weapons against "oriental human beings" with quotation marks around
that. We fought using weapons against those people which I do not
believe this country would dream of using, were we fighting in the
European theater. We watched while men charged up hills because a
general said that hill has to be taken, and, after losing one platoon,
or two platoons, they marched away to leave the hill for reoccupation by
the North Vietnamese. We watched pride allow the most unimportant
battles to be blown into extravaganzas, because we couldn't lose, and we
couldn't retreat, and because it didn't matter how many American bodies
were lost to prove that point, and so there were Hamburger Hills and Khe
Sanhs and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many others.

Now we are told that the men who fought there must watch quietly while
American lives are lost so that we can exercise the incredible arrogance
of "Vietnamizing" the Vietnamese.

Each day, to facilitate the process by which the United States washes
her hands of Vietnam, someone has to give up his life so that the United
States doesn't have to admit something that the entire world already
knows, so that we can't say that we have made a mistake. Someone has to
die so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the
first President to lose a war."

_______________
Where is the leadership?
We're here to ask where are McNamara,
Rostow, Bundy, Gilpatrick, and so many others?
_______________

We are asking Americans to think about that, because how do you ask a
man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the
last man to die for a mistake? We are here in Washington to say that the
problem of this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is
part and parcel of everything that we are trying, as human beings, to
communicate to people in this country--the question of racism, which is
rampant in the military, and so many other questions, such as the use of
weapons: the hypocrisy in our taking umbrage at the Geneva Conventions
and using that as justification for a continuation of this war, when we
are more guilty than any other body of violations of those Geneva
Conventions; in the use of free-fire zones; harassment-interdiction
fire, search-and-destroy missions; the bombings; the torture of
prisoners; all accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam. That is
what we are trying to say. It is part and parcel of everything.

An American Indian friend of mine who lives in the Indian Nation of
Alcatraz put it to me very succinctly: He told me how, as a boy on an
Indian reservation, he had watched television, and he used to cheer the
cowboys when they came in and shot the Indians, and then suddenly one
day he stopped in Vietnam and he said, "my God, I am doing to these
people the very same thing that was done to my people," and he stopped.
And that is what we are trying to say, that we think this thing has to
end.

_______________
The Army says they never leave their wounded.
The Marines say they never even leave their dead.
These men have left all the casualties
and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude.
_______________

We are here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the
leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We're here to ask where
are McNamara, Rostow, Bundy, Gilpatrick, and so many others? Where are
they now that we, the men they sent off to war, have returned? These are
the commanders who have deserted their troops. And there is no more
serious crime in the laws of war. The Army says they never leave their
wounded. The Marines say they never even leave their dead. These men
have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of
public rectitude. They've left the real stuff of their reputations
bleaching behind them in the sun in this country....

We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that
service as easily as this administration has wiped away their memories
of us. But all that they have done, and all that they can do by this
denial, is to make more clear than ever our own determination to
undertake one last mission: To search out and destroy the last vestige
of this barbaric war; to pacify our own hearts; to conquer the hate and
fear that have driven this country these last ten years and more. And
more. And so, when, thirty years from now, our brothers go down the
street without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys ask why,
we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy
obscene memory, but mean instead where America finally turned, and where
soldiers like us helped it in the turning.

POW McCain: Hanoi Hilton Jailers Used Kerry Speech Against Us
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/5/183220.shtml

In piece he wrote for the May 14, 1973, issue of U.S. News & World
Report, the POW-turned-senator charged that testimony by Kerry and
others before J. William Fulbright's Senate Foreign Relations Committee
was "the most effective propaganda [my North Vietnamese captors] had to
use against us."

"They used Senator Fulbright a great deal," McCain wrote - a reference
to Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony that U.S. soldiers were committing war
crimes in Vietnam as a matter of course.

He said Kerry political ally Sen. Ted Kennedy was "quoted again and
again" by his jailers at the Hanoi Hilton.

"Clark Clifford was another [North Vietnamese] favorite," McCain told
U.S. News, "right after he had been Secretary of Defense under President
Johnson."

"When Ramsey Clark came over [my jailers] thought that was a great coup
for their cause," he recalled. Months earlier, Sen. Kerry had appeared
with Clark at the April 1971 Washington, D.C., anti-war protest that
showcased his testimony before the Fulbright Committee.

"All through this period," McCain told U.S. News, his captors were
"bombarding us with anti-war quotes from people in high places back in
Washington. This was the most effective propaganda they had to use
against us."

McCain biographer Paul Alexander chronicled the Arizona Republican's
anger toward Kerry during their early careers in the Senate together.

"For many years McCain held Kerry's actions against him because, while
McCain was a POW in the Hanoi Hilton, Kerry was organizing veterans back
home in the U.S. to protest the war."

POW McCain: Vietcong captors taunted me with KKKerry anti-war protests

What POW McCain really thinks about KKKommunist KKKerry

Communist stooge: The communist Daily World delightedly published photos
of him speaking to demonstrators and boasted that the marchers displayed
a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader Angela Davis, on
record stating, "I am dedicated to the overthrow of your system of
government and your society," the New American recalled in May 2003.

"By frequently participating in VVAW's demonstrations, Kerry found
himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified as
'revolutionary Communists.' While noting that known Reds had openly
organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported
the presence of an 'abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised
in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China,
Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government.'"

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry says: "As a national leader of VVAW,
Kerry campaigned against the effort of the United States to contain the
spread of Communism. He used the blood of servicemen still in the field
for his own political advancement by claiming that their blood was being
shed unnecessarily or in vain.

"Under Kerry's leadership, VVAW members mocked the uniform of United
States soldiers by wearing tattered fatigues marked with pro-communist
graffiti. They dishonored America by marching in demonstrations under
the flag of the Viet Cong enemy."

Sen. John McCain revealed that his North Vietnamese captors had used
reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners.
Retired General George S. Patton III angrily noted that Kerry's actions
had "given aid and comfort to the enemy."

In recent years when Kerry has exploited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
for photo opportunities on Veterans Day, some veterans, still outraged
by his betrayal, have turned their backs on him.

Kerry's Anti-American Rhetoric Used in Torture of POWs

Vietcong Veterans for Kerry, royalty-free leaflet
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/vietcong.html

http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/he_transcript.html

Posted August 26, 2004 by David Freddoso

Former POW Jim Warner today told HUMAN EVENTS that he first learned
about Lt. John Kerry in a North Vietnamese prison camp. When his captors
brought him out of solitary confinement in the infamous Skid Row
punishment camp for an interrogation, they made him read the typewritten
transcript of a statement by Kerry, speaking in the United States. His
interrogator kept pointing at Kerry's words, saying, 'See? This officer
from your Navy says you deserve to be punished.'"

"All I could think of was that this must be a really contemptible human
being," said Warner, although We can't expect the rest of the country to
share our disgust at Kerry for turning on us. A lot of people are too
young to remember that."

But the Kerry campaign has worked tirelessly to remind all voters of
Vietnam, focusing almost entirely on his experience as a Vietnam veteran.

Since then, when speaking in nearly every forum and on nearly every
issue, Kerry has emphasized the fact that he is fit to be president
because he knows what war was like--he was there. At the Democratic
convention, he even began his acceptance speech with a salute, telling
the crowd of loyal Democrats that he was "reporting for duty."

"It wasn't a very good salute," remarked Warner, his voice strained with
a decades-old bitterness. "If you're going to run as a war hero,
somebody at least ought to teach you to salute."

Warner said his first experienced Kerry's anti-American rhetoric in 1971
when he was a Marine first lieutenant suffering in solitary confinement
in the Skid Row punishment camp. His F-4 fighter had been shot down
three and a half years earlier, and since that time he had been tortured
and interrogated regularly. He was in a special punishment camp at the
time with 35 other POWs who had been uncooperative when their captors
tried to prohibit religious observances in their cells.

One morning--Warner thinks it was a Saturday--his captors brought him
out for an unusually long three-hour interrogation, during which they
made him read the transcript of a statement by a U.S. Navy officer and
Vietnam Veteran speaking in the United States. The speech included a
litany of war crimes American soldiers were committing in Vietnam.

However, Warner acknowledges that the statement could have come from of
a number of speeches Kerry gave during his career as an anti-war
protester.

Tom Collins, another Vietnam POW whose plane was shot down in 1965, was
made to listen to Kerry's testimony on tape during his captivity. He
explained that the North Vietnamese were constantly trying to elicit
confessions of war crimes from Americans, promising them better
treatment.

"What they wanted to do was get us to make statements that they could
use for propaganda, no matter what it took to get it" he said. "They
would torture us, some were even killed for it...For over seven years,
their goal was to get propaganda out of me. And then I see somebody like
John Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans [Against the War] giving them the
same propaganda they want me to give them, free of charge, on American
television."

"He knew he was putting us at risk," Warner went on. "And he was
demanding unilateral withdrawal, which means our value as bargaining
chips would be gone. And what do you think would have happened to us
then?"

"We can forgive and forget," said Collins. "But then when he decides to
bring it up and run for the highest office in the land based upon
outright lies, we're not going to stand for that."

These charges by POWs and more questions about John Kerry's "war hero"
status have been generated by the release of the blockbuster new book
Unfit for Command (Regnery, a HUMAN EVENTS sister company) and two TV
ads produced by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The book and the ads
deal not only with the dubious claims of heroics surrounding the various
medals Kerry received during his four-month tour in Vietnam, but also
with his virulent anti-war and anti-American actions upon his return
from the war.

Human Events Online was the first to post the full transcript from
Kerry's April 22, 1971, testimony and the Q&A before the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee on the war in Vietnam online. The full document can
still be read, in its original format, here.