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06 Aug 2007 07:29:21 PM |
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Re: "KING JAMES ONLY" |
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:00:19 GMT, (Ted J L)
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© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"There is a lot of debate and confusion surrounding the man-made
term 'King James Onlyism.' This term has been popularized in recent
years by men who claim they are concerned about an alleged dangerous
and cultic view of the King James Bible. Rarely
"Rarely?" Not quite. King JamesOnlyism is the cult belief that there
is only one valid Bible that exists today. That "only valid Bible" is
the King James (or "Authorized" ) version.
The question would IMMEDIATELY come to mind: "Authorized by WHO?"
Then the next question would be, "who gave _____ the "authority" to
authorize ONLY ONE Bible translation?"
I have no problem with people who prefer the KJV over other translations. I
have a problem with the radical elements within the KJV-Only movement like
Peter Ruckman, Gail Anne Riplinger, Sam "Better Call Me 'Doctor'" Gipp,
David Cloud, D.A. Waite, Jack Chick and a handful of others, the most
extreme of them going as far as claiming those who use translations other
than the King James Bible are going to hell. Some of the proponents like
Peter Ruckman and Gail Anne Riplinger use dishonesty to support their claims
and ruthlessly attack anyone who opposes their POV's and expose their
errors, misrepresentations and outright fabrications. The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be slowly
dying out as time goes on.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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| User: "~Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysImAWhosoeverToo!~" |
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06 Aug 2007 08:26:16 PM |
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On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
<tongue-in-cheek mode off>
;-)
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06 Aug 2007 10:53:25 PM |
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:1186449976.675939.90530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be
slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
http://www.epigramz.com
<tongue-in-cheek mode off>
;-)
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| User: "JohnH" |
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08 Aug 2007 10:30:18 AM |
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On Aug 6, 11:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com>
wrote in messagenews:1186449976.675939.90530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be
slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
How many Geneva Bibles do you see in your local Christian bookstore
compared to the KJV?
--
Terrell D Lewishttp://www.songbookz.comhttp://www.epigramz.com
<tongue-in-cheek mode off>
;-)
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08 Aug 2007 06:11:23 PM |
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"JohnH" <johnhennekes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 11:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<kaseybec...@gmail.com>
wrote in
messagenews:1186449976.675939.90530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be
slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
How many Geneva Bibles do you see in your local Christian bookstore
compared to the KJV?
That only means that King James won and the people lost - btw, it is a
available as a fascimile and also as a addon to eSword.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
http://www.epigramz.com
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Terrell D Lewishttp://www.songbookz.comhttp://www.epigramz.com
<tongue-in-cheek mode off>
;-)
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| User: "~Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysImAWhosoeverToo!~" |
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06 Aug 2007 11:27:03 PM |
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On Aug 6, 8:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
Actually I'm more inclined to the Tyndale version.
In case you missed it, my comment about the NASB was meant to be
"tongue-in-cheek" (you know - funny/ha-ha), hence, the "tongue-in-
cheek" on/off indicators.
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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07 Aug 2007 01:30:41 AM |
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 8:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version
would
supplant.
Actually I'm more inclined to the Tyndale version.
In case you missed it, my comment about the NASB was meant to be
"tongue-in-cheek" (you know - funny/ha-ha), hence, the "tongue-in-
cheek" on/off indicators.
Is the text of the Tyndale Bible or NT on line? All I've found are
facsimiles
..
His,
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www.geocities.com/fredstover7@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
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07 Aug 2007 09:42:20 PM |
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"Fred A Stover" <fredstover@email.com> wrote in message
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message
news:1186460823.530106.128970@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 6, 8:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version
would
supplant.
Actually I'm more inclined to the Tyndale version.
In case you missed it, my comment about the NASB was meant to be
"tongue-in-cheek" (you know - funny/ha-ha), hence, the "tongue-in-
cheek" on/off indicators.
Is the text of the Tyndale Bible or NT on line? All I've found are
facsimiles
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http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/tyndale/
Most of the Geneva NT is the Tyndale Bible, Tyndale didn't translate the OT.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
http://www.epigramz.com
His,
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www.geocities.com/fredstover7@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
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| User: "~Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysImAWhosoeverToo!~" |
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07 Aug 2007 12:02:01 PM |
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On Aug 6, 11:30 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
Is the text of the Tyndale Bible or NT on line? All I've found are
facsimiles
http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/tyndale/
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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07 Aug 2007 04:24:55 PM |
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 11:30 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
Is the text of the Tyndale Bible or NT on line? All I've found are
facsimiles
http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/tyndale/
Thank you,
His
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www.geocities.com/fredstover7@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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07 Aug 2007 09:55:45 PM |
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 8:53 pm, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOS...@NOWAY.net> wrote:
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
Actually I'm more inclined to the Tyndale version.
In case you missed it, my comment about the NASB was meant to be
"tongue-in-cheek" (you know - funny/ha-ha), hence, the "tongue-in-
cheek" on/off indicators.
I got it, my was partially tongue in cheek - although, I do think the Geneva
has a better claim to "authenticity: than the KJV which was marred by the
political motives involved in its translationand it's slant toward Anglican
doctrine and away from Puritan doctrine (which was part of the purpose).
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
http://www.epigramz.com
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07 Aug 2007 08:45:03 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:53:25 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis" <NOSPAM@NOWAY.net>
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"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:1186449976.675939.90530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be
slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
I would go with the Geneva Bible which King James hoped his version would
supplant.
And the Great Bible? Cramners?
At the time of its publication, the kjv was the "radical new"
translation.
But just because it is called "authorized" (authorized of course to be
read in the church of England), kjv onliers think it is "special."
in Christ Jesus
Checker
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08 Aug 2007 10:36:49 AM |
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On Aug 6, 9:26 pm, "<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
Why would you hope this? Wait, just tell me what you think is wrong
for someone to be an independent fundamental Baptist?
<tongue-in-cheek mode on>
Besides, every true Christian *knows* that the NASB is the only
annointed version of the Bible, anyway.
<tongue-in-cheek mode off>
;-)
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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08 Aug 2007 06:12:30 PM |
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"JohnH" <johnhennekes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 9:26 pm, "<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:29 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be
slowly
dying out as time goes on.
We can only hope.
Why would you hope this? Wait, just tell me what you think is wrong
for someone to be an independent fundamental Baptist?
The key word is "fundamental" an off-shoot of a 20th Century heretical
sect.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
http://www.epigramz.com
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| User: "Sam Taylor" |
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07 Aug 2007 01:37:56 PM |
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Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
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| User: "Carl" |
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07 Aug 2007 07:19:19 PM |
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"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
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Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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| User: "Sam Taylor" |
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07 Aug 2007 07:40:36 PM |
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:19:19 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
news:urehb3pd5mleqamon8pn9f89pbvmtk79pe@4ax.com...
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
The king jimmy was translated from the original german, the diligently
compared to the latin, and then the greek
produceing a textus receptus (Recieved Text) in latin
You know that good ol' german craftsmanship.
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08 Aug 2007 09:56:56 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:40:36 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:19:19 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
news:urehb3pd5mleqamon8pn9f89pbvmtk79pe@4ax.com...
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
The king jimmy was translated from the original german, the diligently
compared to the latin, and then the greek
produceing a textus receptus (Recieved Text) in latin
You know that good ol' german craftsmanship.
You are doing a better "ruckman" with each try!
LOL! Good joke!
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
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| User: "Sam Taylor" |
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09 Aug 2007 02:14:32 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:56:56 -0600, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:40:36 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:19:19 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
news:urehb3pd5mleqamon8pn9f89pbvmtk79pe@4ax.com...
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
The king jimmy was translated from the original german, the diligently
compared to the latin, and then the greek
produceing a textus receptus (Recieved Text) in latin
You know that good ol' german craftsmanship.
You are doing a better "ruckman" with each try!
LOL! Good joke!
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
the truth is that the King jimmy was actualy translated from the
german text of the geneva text , and is based on it.
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09 Aug 2007 08:16:51 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:14:32 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:56:56 -0600, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:40:36 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:19:19 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
news:urehb3pd5mleqamon8pn9f89pbvmtk79pe@4ax.com...
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
The king jimmy was translated from the original german, the diligently
compared to the latin, and then the greek
produceing a textus receptus (Recieved Text) in latin
You know that good ol' german craftsmanship.
You are doing a better "ruckman" with each try!
LOL! Good joke!
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
the truth is that the King jimmy was actualy translated from the
german text of the geneva text , and is based on it.
LOL! Not the truth at all. You should do some homework before you
show your ignorance on the subject any further.
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
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| User: "john w" |
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08 Aug 2007 10:13:28 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:56:56 -0600, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:40:36 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:19:19 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
"Sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com> wrote in message
news:urehb3pd5mleqamon8pn9f89pbvmtk79pe@4ax.com...
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
Sounds like a plausible Peter Ruckman impersonation to me. LOL!
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
The king jimmy was translated from the original german, the diligently
compared to the latin, and then the greek
produceing a textus receptus (Recieved Text) in latin
You know that good ol' german craftsmanship.
You are doing a better "ruckman" with each try!
LOL! Good joke!
in the Name of Jesus,
You would be a LOT more believable if you weren't so JUDGMENTAL.
Checker
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08 Aug 2007 10:44:57 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:13:28 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
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You would be a LOT more believable if you weren't so JUDGMENTAL.
Look who's talking.
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08 Aug 2007 07:37:44 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:44:57 -0400, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:13:28 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You would be a LOT more believable if you weren't so JUDGMENTAL.
Look who's talking.
??? ^ ^ ^
"Oh, what IRONY!"
You judge me and find me "falling WAY short" 50 times a day, then
you comment about ME being judgmental?"
roll on the floor laughing my ***** off!
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08 Aug 2007 08:21:57 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:37:44 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
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??? ^ ^ ^
"Oh, what IRONY!"
You judge me and find me "falling WAY short" 50 times a day, then
you comment about ME being judgmental?"
roll on the floor laughing my ***** off!
Laugh while you may, HERETIC.
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| User: "john w" |
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09 Aug 2007 03:25:45 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:21:57 -0400, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:37:44 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
??? ^ ^ ^
"Oh, what IRONY!"
You judge me and find me "falling WAY short" 50 times a day, then
you comment about ME being judgmental?"
roll on the floor laughing my ***** off!
Laugh while you may, HERETIC.
???
"heretic?" I see you use words VERY loosely, depending on your
MOODS.
I confess the Lord Jesus Christ, God in flesh, as my Lord.
What part of that is "heresy?"
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09 Aug 2007 09:59:57 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:25:45 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I confess the Lord Jesus Christ, God in flesh, as my Lord.
What part of that is "heresy?"
Your professing is one thing, John.... your BEHAVIOR is quite another.
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause
divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;
and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but
their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the
hearts of the simple.
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| User: "john w" |
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09 Aug 2007 11:38:39 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:59:57 -0400, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:25:45 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I confess the Lord Jesus Christ, God in flesh, as my Lord.
What part of that is "heresy?"
Your professing is one thing, John.... your BEHAVIOR is quite another.
EXACTLY that could be said about YOU!
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause
divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;
and avoid them.
And when you start WW III over my comments that I believe Jesus
baptized, who does that matter to but YOU? No one, but you are more
than happy to crucify me because I believe something that is a NON
issue.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but
their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the
hearts of the simple.
All of which could be said about YOU.
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| User: "Unicorn" |
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12 Aug 2007 01:58:25 AM |
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In article <arqnb3hdpibk1dutuv8c5nna16o1icm3pp@4ax.com>, john w
<johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
And when you start WW III over my comments that I believe Jesus
baptized, who does that matter to but YOU? No one, but you are more
than happy to crucify me because I believe something that is a NON
issue.
Did Jesus invade Poland to do it perhaps?
Sounds like another Weatherly fanatasy to me
I checked Hitlers speech on the Invasion of Poland and it appears the
Weatherly version (see below) isn't correct
even though it is found in:
"A Fundamentalist Looney Looks at Modern History" J Weatherly (Derieux
toilet paper publishers Ltd)
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Invasion of Poland
Hitlers speech to the Reichstag Septemeber 1939
Weatherlys fantasy
"In this I will take the necessary measures to see that they do not
contradict the proposals I have already made known in the Reichstag First
Century Church to the rest of the world, that is to say, I will not throw
Holy water at women and children. I have ordered my air force to restrict
itself to attacks on baptismal fonts. If, however, the enemy thinks he can
form that draw carte blanche on his side to baptise even using other
methods he will receive an answer that will deprive him of the necessary
water
This night for the first time Jesus baptised on our territory. Since 5.45
A.M. we have been returning compliment by defensive baptism carried out on
our own side, and from now on descending Doves will be met by buckshot.
Whoever fights with communion wafers will be fought with rosary beads.
Whoever departs from the rules of humane water baptism can only expect
that we shall do the same but with baptism of the Spirit and with fire. I
will continue this struggle, no matter against whom, until the safety of
the Reich and its baptismal fonts are secured."
Continued page 94
"A Fundamentalist Looney Looks at Modern History" J Weatherly (Derieux
toilet paper publishers Ltd)
Copyright J D Weatherly pastor (retired)
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| User: "~Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysImAWhosoeverToo!~" |
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07 Aug 2007 08:18:23 PM |
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On Aug 7, 11:37 am, Sam Taylor <cyg...@cncnet.com> wrote:
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
I hope you're kidding.
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| User: "john w" |
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07 Aug 2007 04:40:54 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:37:56 -0700, Sam Taylor <cygnet@cncnet.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Peter, and paul didn't preach out of one of the
green new World translation, they taught from a king jimmy.
if it was good nough for them it should be
good nough for you!
smirk!
I can't count the times a "brilliant," "well-educated,"
"well-schooled," "well-read," "Pentecostal" person has said to me,
"If the King James Bible was good enough for Jesus, for Peter, and for
Paul, by golly, it's good enough for me!"
smirk.
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| User: "john w" |
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08 Aug 2007 02:24:16 AM |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:29:21 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
news:e8qdb35dmaf6353lmlbu0foiko7e0vepj4@4ax.com...
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:00:19 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"There is a lot of debate and confusion surrounding the man-made
term 'King James Onlyism.' This term has been popularized in recent
years by men who claim they are concerned about an alleged dangerous
and cultic view of the King James Bible. Rarely
"Rarely?" Not quite. King JamesOnlyism is the cult belief that there
is only one valid Bible that exists today. That "only valid Bible" is
the King James (or "Authorized" ) version.
The question would IMMEDIATELY come to mind: "Authorized by WHO?"
Then the next question would be, "who gave _____ the "authority" to
authorize ONLY ONE Bible translation?"
I have no problem with people who prefer the KJV over other translations. I
have a problem with the radical elements within the KJV-Only movement like
Peter Ruckman, Gail Anne Riplinger, Sam "Better Call Me 'Doctor'" Gipp,
David Cloud, D.A. Waite, Jack Chick and a handful of others, the most
extreme of them going as far as claiming those who use translations other
than the King James Bible are going to hell.
"Yup!"
I have no problem whatever with anyone who "prefers the KJV."
Sometimes, I wish I could make heads or tails of it becaues there are
those who find the language "beautiful."
But when I am trying to do SERIOUS Bible study, I find a modern
language I don't have to "translate" in my head is more constructive.
I have actually known people-- I used to work with two "Pentecostal"
guys in a factory in Los Angeles.. these guys will tell you, "if the
King James Bible was good enough for Jesus, for Peter, and for Paul,
by golly, it's good enough for me!"
I finally told one guy, "Don", "Don.... did you realize that the
King James Bible was translated over 1,000 YEARs after Jesus, Peter,
and Paul lived?"
His eyes crossed. "Really?" I said "Yep!" He said, "That's not
what my pastor, "Pastor Billy Bob" said!"
??? We never got as far as where Pastor Billy Bob got his AS degree
in Bible. Presumably it was from a local, Los Angeles-based 2-year
Pentecostal Bible college!!
Some of the proponents like
Peter Ruckman and Gail Anne Riplinger use dishonesty to support their claims
and ruthlessly attack anyone who opposes their POV's and expose their
errors, misrepresentations and outright fabrications. The KJO movement is a
relatively small, yet vocal group mainly consisting of self-described
"Independent Fundamental Baptists." It's a movement that seems to be slowly
dying out as time goes on.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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