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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"TehGhodTrole" |
| Date: |
29 Feb 2004 11:20:23 PM |
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Re: Knoweldge is power |
bob young wrote:
[snip]
I will more than qualify it, I will attempt to prove it... just as
soon as you coherently define your own (assumed) brand of atheism...
Yes easy, so lets have your proofs now:
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism is human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that
the religious mind cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more
than this. Atheism is not an old religion, it is not a new and coming
religion, in fact it is not, and never has been, a religion at all.
The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its simplicity: Atheism
is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
You seem to have misled yourself into believing that a direct quote of
Emmett F. Fields' shifty weasel words somehow meets the following request:
"Please coherently define your (assumed) atheism and I shall
immediately commence surgery upon your tenuous world-view."
Merely asserting that "the definition of atheism is magnificent" and that
"the religious mind cannot begin to understand [it]" does not, to even the
remotest of unthinking minds, constitute a coherent "definition of atheism".
I want _your_ coherent definition of _your_ atheism. That is what was asked
for. Nothing other than it is acceptable.
You have two choices. Either coherently define your atheism or find someone
who you think you might be able to fool.
Of course, you can always do what irrational people always do and invoke mad
and wild assertions if neither of those options takes your fancy. That's not
an accusation, it's an option.
Oh, and I will ignore the explicit and clear failure of Emmett F. Fields to
observe the principle of audiatur et altera pars by not establishing any
underlying assumptions before flying full force into blindly asserting
"Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
weasel words
n : equivocal qualification; words used to avoid making a case
before an outright assertion is made.
shifty
adj : characterised by insincerity or deceit; evasive [syn: devious]
equivocal
adj : (often) intended to mislead; of uncertain nature or
significance
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Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
01 Mar 2004 09:49:04 PM |
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TehGhodTrole wrote:
bob young wrote:
[snip]
I will more than qualify it, I will attempt to prove it... just as
soon as you coherently define your own (assumed) brand of atheism...
Yes easy, so lets have your proofs now:
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism is human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that
the religious mind cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more
than this. Atheism is not an old religion, it is not a new and coming
religion, in fact it is not, and never has been, a religion at all.
The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its simplicity: Atheism
is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
You seem to have misled yourself into believing that a direct quote of
Emmett F. Fields' shifty weasel words somehow meets the following request:
"Please coherently define your (assumed) atheism and I shall
immediately commence surgery upon your tenuous world-view."
So in your simple way you seem to think that if atheists cannot prove they do
not believe in gods, it makes you belief more tenable!
Merely asserting that "the definition of atheism is magnificent" and that
"the religious mind cannot begin to understand [it]" does not, to even the
remotest of unthinking minds, constitute a coherent "definition of atheism".
I want _your_ coherent definition of _your_ atheism. That is what was asked
for. Nothing other than it is acceptable...
....disbelief in the existence of god
you can't get more coherent than that!
You have two choices. Either coherently define your atheism or find someone
who you think you might be able to fool.
Those fooled are those following primitive superstition - make no mistake about
it
Of course, you can always do what irrational people always do and invoke mad
and wild assertions if neither of those options takes your fancy. That's not
an accusation, it's an option.
Oh, and I will ignore the explicit and clear failure of Emmett F. Fields to
observe the principle of audiatur et altera pars by not establishing any
underlying assumptions before flying full force into blindly asserting
"Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
.........got to you that bit, did it?
It beautifully encapsulates this whole primitive superstitious mess that humans
find they have inherited. Atheists can see the wood for the trees, as many
more are doing, aided by the bitter hatred permeated by religions and sectors
of religions who hate each other for believing [sic] something *different*
'Different* Ha Ha
weasel words
n : equivocal qualification; words used to avoid making a case
before an outright assertion is made.
shifty
adj : characterised by insincerity or deceit; evasive [syn: devious]
equivocal
adj : (often) intended to mislead; of uncertain nature or
significance
Short on proofs for your 'god' so we play with words! We can play with words
for another 2,000 years, there will still be no gods
Bob
Hong kong
Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are [Ovid 34 BC
- c.17 AD]
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
02 Mar 2004 12:40:51 AM |
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bob young wrote:
TehGhodTrole wrote:
bob young wrote:
[snip]
I will more than qualify it, I will attempt to prove it... just as
soon as you coherently define your own (assumed) brand of
atheism...
Yes easy, so lets have your proofs now:
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism is human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that
the religious mind cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more
than this. Atheism is not an old religion, it is not a new and
coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has been, a religion
at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its simplicity:
Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
You seem to have misled yourself into believing that a direct quote
of Emmett F. Fields' shifty weasel words somehow meets the following
request:
"Please coherently define your (assumed) atheism and I shall
immediately commence surgery upon your tenuous world-view."
So in your simple way you seem to think that if atheists cannot prove
they do not believe in gods, it makes you belief more tenable!
What? Where did that come from and what does it have to do with what
you were requested to do? That's two major inconsitencies in a row.
Merely asserting that "the definition of atheism is magnificent" and
that "the religious mind cannot begin to understand [it]" does not,
to even the remotest of unthinking minds, constitute a coherent
"definition of atheism". I want _your_ coherent definition of _your_
atheism. That is what was asked for. Nothing other than it is
acceptable...
...disbelief in the existence of god
you can't get more coherent than that!
Actually, it's irrational, but I'll get to showing that just
as soon as we have agreement on what it means. Nevertheless,
is that how you define your atheism? Would you agree that
the following statement accurately reflects your atheism or not? ...
"I do not believe in the existence of God"
If that is not accurate, please make a statement that accurately
reflects your own view of your atheism.
You have two choices. Either coherently define your atheism or find
someone who you think you might be able to fool.
Those fooled are those following primitive superstition - make no
mistake about it
I snipped the rest unread on account of your wild and unsupported
assertion... failure to observe audiatur et altera pars; assertion
made without reference to underlying assumptions. That's now three
major inconsistencies.
Now, I intend to show you just how irrational your atheism is. That
is assuming you can put up with the mental pain of having to
actually admit it.
I would like you to answer honestly...
Do you consider yourself of above average intelligence?
Do you consider that you like to think things through and
make rational choices and decisions?
Do you consider it possible that you hold an irrational
belief?
A simple yes or no will do to each question.
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
02 Mar 2004 05:03:06 AM |
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"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:qU9PsI30mXno9E5562A2irDOcQxqkqFc@mail.ateze.com...
| bob young wrote:
| > TehGhodTrole wrote:
| >
snip
| Actually, it's irrational, but I'll get to showing that
just
| as soon as we have agreement on what it means.
Nevertheless,
| is that how you define your atheism? Would you agree that
| the following statement accurately reflects your atheism
or not? ...
|
| "I do not believe in the existence of God"
|
| If that is not accurate, please make a statement that
accurately
| reflects your own view of your atheism.
I can make that statement with a clear conscience. I do not
believe in the existence of God, but I do not believe that
God does not exist.
| >> You have two choices. Either coherently define your
atheism or find
| >> someone who you think you might be able to fool.
The statement does not constitute "atheism".
| >
| > Those fooled are those following primitive
superstition - make no
| > mistake about it
|
| I snipped the rest unread on account of your wild and
unsupported
| assertion... failure to observe audiatur et altera pars;
assertion
| made without reference to underlying assumptions. That's
now three
| major inconsistencies.
|
| Now, I intend to show you just how irrational your atheism
is. That
| is assuming you can put up with the mental pain of having
to
| actually admit it.
|
| I would like you to answer honestly...
Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
|
| Do you consider yourself of above average intelligence?
Yes.
|
| Do you consider that you like to think things through and
| make rational choices and decisions?
Yes.
|
| Do you consider it possible that you hold an irrational
| belief?
|
Yes. I do not think I am Robinson Caruso.
| A simple yes or no will do to each question.
|
Happy now?
Shalom & Salaam
Izzy
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 02:04:33 AM |
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Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
See above.
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 05:34:58 AM |
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"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:0Uuo5Eft8nUg19D30A7AA31DA02D2wP7iRV8G2SH@kadaitcha.cx...
| Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
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| > Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
|
| See above.
|
Do you take snipping lessons from JTEM?
Izzy
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 06:34:39 AM |
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Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:0Uuo5Eft8nUg19D30A7AA31DA02D2wP7iRV8G2SH@kadaitcha.cx...
Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
See above.
Do you take snipping lessons from JTEM?
Do you have a difficulty with understanding what was left?
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 07:06:23 AM |
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"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:HikOoR6DCJ6p6DA99F5126463240a5GXJtIpbc0f@kadaitcha.cx...
| Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
| > "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
| >
news:0Uuo5Eft8nUg19D30A7AA31DA02D2wP7iRV8G2SH@kadaitcha.cx...
| >> Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
| >>
| >>> Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
| >>
| >> See above.
| >>
| > Do you take snipping lessons from JTEM?
|
| Do you have a difficulty with understanding what was left?
|
Yes. I have no inclination to go back to unread to figure
out what you are on about.
Izzy
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| User: "TehGhodTrole" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 07:09:44 AM |
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Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
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Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:0Uuo5Eft8nUg19D30A7AA31DA02D2wP7iRV8G2SH@kadaitcha.cx...
Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
Although not addressed directly to me, I will answer:
See above.
Do you take snipping lessons from JTEM?
Do you have a difficulty with understanding what was left?
Yes.
Bad luck.
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 07:15:21 AM |
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"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:gGw1oFXIaJpW3A7F0D6354F599274ap0jRoSTciw@kadaitcha.cx...
| Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
| > "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
| >
news:HikOoR6DCJ6p6DA99F5126463240a5GXJtIpbc0f@kadaitcha.cx...
| >> Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
| >>> "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
| >>>
| >
news:0Uuo5Eft8nUg19D30A7AA31DA02D2wP7iRV8G2SH@kadaitcha.cx...
| >>>> Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>> Although not addressed directly to me, I will
answer:
| >>>>
| >>>> See above.
| >>>>
| >>> Do you take snipping lessons from JTEM?
| >>
| >> Do you have a difficulty with understanding what was
left?
| >>
| > Yes.
|
| Bad luck.
|
As Ma Shelagh said, "Tough titties".
Izzy
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
02 Mar 2004 07:57:12 PM |
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TehGhodTrole wrote:
bob young wrote:
TehGhodTrole wrote:
bob young wrote:
[snip]
I will more than qualify it, I will attempt to prove it... just as
soon as you coherently define your own (assumed) brand of
atheism...
Yes easy, so lets have your proofs now:
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism is human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that
the religious mind cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more
than this. Atheism is not an old religion, it is not a new and
coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has been, a religion
at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its simplicity:
Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
You seem to have misled yourself into believing that a direct quote
of Emmett F. Fields' shifty weasel words somehow meets the following
request:
"Please coherently define your (assumed) atheism and I shall
immediately commence surgery upon your tenuous world-view."
So in your simple way you seem to think that if atheists cannot prove
they do not believe in gods, it makes you belief more tenable!
What? Where did that come from and what does it have to do with what
you were requested to do? That's two major inconsitencies in a row.
Merely asserting that "the definition of atheism is magnificent" and
that "the religious mind cannot begin to understand [it]" does not,
to even the remotest of unthinking minds, constitute a coherent
"definition of atheism". I want _your_ coherent definition of _your_
atheism. That is what was asked for. Nothing other than it is
acceptable...
...disbelief in the existence of god
you can't get more coherent than that!
Actually, it's irrational, but I'll get to showing that just
as soon as we have agreement on what it means. Nevertheless,
is that how you define your atheism? Would you agree that
the following statement accurately reflects your atheism or not? ...
"I do not believe in the existence of God"
If that is not accurate, please make a statement that accurately
reflects your own view of your atheism.
You have two choices. Either coherently define your atheism or find
someone who you think you might be able to fool.
Those fooled are those following primitive superstition - make no
mistake about it
I snipped the rest unread on account of your wild and unsupported
assertion... failure to observe audiatur et altera pars; assertion
made without reference to underlying assumptions. That's now three
major inconsistencies.
Now, I intend to show you just how irrational your atheism is. That
is assuming you can put up with the mental pain of having to
actually admit it.
I would like you to answer honestly...
Do you consider yourself of above average intelligence?
Do you consider that you like to think things through and
make rational choices and decisions?
Do you consider it possible that you hold an irrational
belief?
A simple yes or no will do to each question.....
........all the word games from now until eternity, as you well know, will
not alter anything. Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another idiot into
believing in their mythology. Strength in numbers.
Play your games with someone else.
Atheism is the denial of gods on the grounds that such beliefs are
primitive superstition [my interpretation].
I will now sit back and wait for the insults. Which theists always fall
back on when an argument is lost.
Bob
a brit. in Hong Kong
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
02 Mar 2004 10:22:23 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another idiot into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
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| User: "Son of man" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
02 Mar 2004 10:44:19 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in your scriptures,
it's easy to see why. But you're not forbidden to stone people to death for
working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and it was carried
out by Moses and the congregation. You should be forbidden from stoning
people to death for working on the Sabbath, but the opposite is true. Your
God also commands you to kill homosexuals.
Susan
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 01:29:29 AM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| >
| > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
message
| > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > >
| > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
swing another idiot
| into
| > > believing in their mythology.
| >
| > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
|
| And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in
your scriptures,
| it's easy to see why. But you're not forbidden to stone
people to death for
| working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and
it was carried
| out by Moses and the congregation. You should be forbidden
from stoning
| people to death for working on the Sabbath, but the
opposite is true. Your
| God also commands you to kill homosexuals.
|
Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are told
to do?
Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
04 Mar 2004 12:22:37 AM |
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| >
| > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
message
| > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > >
| > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
swing another idiot
| into
| > > believing in their mythology.
| >
| > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
|
| And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in
your scriptures,
| it's easy to see why.
Look what's talking!!
ROFTLOL!!
But you're not forbidden to stone
people to death for
| working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and
it was carried
| out by Moses and the congregation.
He keeps harping on this, even tho it's been proven he's misrepresenting
it..
You should be forbidden
from stoning
| people to death for working on the Sabbath
And he should be forbidden to lie - oh, wait, he already is!
, but the
opposite is true. Your
| God also commands you to kill homosexuals
This is also a lie.
|
Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are told
to do?
No,he's lying about what we're told to do.
Watch him quote the bit about "lying with a man like a woman" bit.
I can't wait!!
Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
We do too.
It's just not done the way he says it is.
Susan
Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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| User: "Son of man" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
04 Mar 2004 01:04:35 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| >
| > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
message
| > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > >
| > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
swing another idiot
| into
| > > believing in their mythology.
| >
| > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
|
| And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in
your scriptures,
| it's easy to see why.
Look what's talking!!
I'm talking. And I'm against the murder of children and their mothers which
your prophets committed :
ROFTLOL!!
But you're not forbidden to stone
people to death for
| working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and
it was carried
| out by Moses and the congregation.
He keeps harping on this, even tho it's been proven he's misrepresenting
it..
Liar! What am I misrepresenting? Moses stoned a man to death for gathering
sticks on the Sabbath (Numbers:15:32-36) and at God's command nontheless.
You are a liar! And I do not keep harping on this -- there are many more
severe crimes which Moses committed --
Numbers:31:14: And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the
captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the
battle.
15: And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him.
He was a murderer of children and their mothers!
Futhermore your God killed his own people -- the people of Israel -- because
they complained of being thristy and of being led into an EVIL place -- and
the God of Israel sent FIERY SERPENTS to kill them and then forced those who
wanted to live to idol worship the image of a SERPENT MADE OF BRASS!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/christ-son-of-buddha/TheWordOfGod_4.htm
You are therefore the LIAR here, Susan. Because I have not misrepresented
anything! You are a LIAR!
You should be forbidden
from stoning
| people to death for working on the Sabbath
And he should be forbidden to lie - oh, wait, he already is!
What lie am I telling? Please explain yourself!
You are the liar! And hence a hypocrite as well.
, but the
opposite is true. Your
| God also commands you to kill homosexuals
This is also a lie.
Oh, is it now?
Leviticus:20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
You are the liar, Susan.
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Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are told
to do?
No,he's lying about what we're told to do.
You are a liar, Susan. I gave every reference in your scriptures to what
your God commands.
Watch him quote the bit about "lying with a man like a woman" bit.
I can't wait!!
Now who's misrepresenting what your God said? IT IS CLEAR your God said to
put to death homosexuals!
Now ask yourself this question, Susan. Why do you think it is that you have
to resort to lies to defend your beliefs?
It's because what you believe in is an even greater lie, and hence the truth
will never support your beliefs.
Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
We do too.
It's just not done the way he says it is.
Susan
Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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04 Mar 2004 12:16:12 PM |
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That's why conservative republicnas, and their Reich wing religious
fanatics, prefer to keep people ignorant of the truth!
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06 Mar 2004 03:11:40 AM |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:16:12 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<ZenIsWhen@anywhere.com> wrote:
That's why conservative republicnas, and their Reich wing religious
fanatics, prefer to keep people ignorant of the truth!
You're a bigot and a Jew-hater.
*PLONK*
Susan
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| User: "Son of man" |
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06 Mar 2004 01:21:36 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:16:12 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<ZenIsWhen@anywhere.com> wrote:
That's why conservative republicnas, and their Reich wing religious
fanatics, prefer to keep people ignorant of the truth!
You're a bigot and a Jew-hater.
You're a liar, Susan. Because someone criticizes a religion in no way
implies a hatred for people. It is because I don't want anyone to be
deceived -- ESPECIALLY JEWS -- that I expose the evils contained in the
scriptures of Judaism -- evil teachings from a CRUEL "God" that abides in
darkness and whose teachings oppose those of Jesus :
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/christ-son-of-buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm
*PLONK*
Susan
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06 Mar 2004 10:55:02 PM |
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Yes, knowledge is power.
Proof positive that the phony rev is impotent.
Susan
The Phony Rev Pedophile wrote in message
news:404995bf.13939578@news.tiscali.co.uk...
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:16:12 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<ZenIsWhen@anywhere.com> wrote:
That's why conservative republicnas, and their Reich wing religious
fanatics, prefer to keep people ignorant of the truth!
You're a bigot and a Jew-hater.
*PLONK*
Susan
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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07 Mar 2004 10:17:24 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote..
Yes, knowledge is power.
But when will we see some of it posted on the Internet??
Signed,
Still waiting (with anticipation)
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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07 Mar 2004 05:11:39 PM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote..
Yes, knowledge is power.
But when will we see some of it posted on the Internet??
You have to pay attention.
It's around....
Susan
Signed,
Still waiting (with anticipation)
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| User: "Son of man" |
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03 Mar 2004 12:43:04 PM |
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:40458957$1@news.highway1.com.au...
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ymd1c.3103$rB4.1869@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| >
| > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
message
| > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > >
| > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
swing another idiot
| into
| > > believing in their mythology.
| >
| > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
|
| And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in
your scriptures,
| it's easy to see why. But you're not forbidden to stone
people to death for
| working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and
it was carried
| out by Moses and the congregation. You should be forbidden
from stoning
| people to death for working on the Sabbath, but the
opposite is true. Your
| God also commands you to kill homosexuals.
|
Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are told
to do?
I am condemning a false religion -- not a race, and not those who believe in
it. Those who believe in a false religion will ulitmately condemn themselves
which is why I devote my time and efforts to exposing false religions and
the evil teachings contained within them.
Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
03 Mar 2004 01:08:27 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:hFp1c.4455$rB4.1256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| "Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in
message
| news:40458957$1@news.highway1.com.au...
| >
| > "Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| > news:Ymd1c.3103$rB4.1869@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| > | "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > | news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| > | >
| > | > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
| > message
| > | > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > | > >
| > | > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > | > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
| > swing another idiot
| > | into
| > | > > believing in their mythology.
| > | >
| > | > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > | > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > | > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
| > |
| > | And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained
in
| > your scriptures,
| > | it's easy to see why. But you're not forbidden to
stone
| > people to death for
| > | working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment
and
| > it was carried
| > | out by Moses and the congregation. You should be
forbidden
| > from stoning
| > | people to death for working on the Sabbath, but the
| > opposite is true. Your
| > | God also commands you to kill homosexuals.
| > |
| > Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are
told
| > to do?
|
| I am condemning a false religion -- not a race, and not
those who believe in
| it. Those who believe in a false religion will ulitmately
condemn themselves
| which is why I devote my time and efforts to exposing
false religions and
| the evil teachings contained within them.
|
I suppose there is cause to condemn false religions. Are you
offering a true religion as a replacement?
Izzy
| >
| > Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
| >
| > Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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| User: "bob young" |
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04 Mar 2004 06:58:06 AM |
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Son of man wrote:
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:40458957$1@news.highway1.com.au...
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ymd1c.3103$rB4.1869@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:34d1c.32428$6K.30908@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| >
| > "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in
message
| > news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
| > >
| > > Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
| > > resort to playing word games in the hope they can
swing another idiot
| into
| > > believing in their mythology.
| >
| > Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
| > Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
| > In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
|
| And with the complete and utter bs and evil contained in
your scriptures,
| it's easy to see why. But you're not forbidden to stone
people to death for
| working on the Sabbath, that is your God's commandment and
it was carried
| out by Moses and the congregation. You should be forbidden
from stoning
| people to death for working on the Sabbath, but the
opposite is true. Your
| God also commands you to kill homosexuals.
|
Are you condemning a race for not doing what they are told
to do?
I am condemning a false religion -- not a race, and not those who believe in
it. Those who believe in a false religion will ulitmately condemn themselves
which is why I devote my time and efforts to exposing false religions and
the evil teachings contained within them....
....but you don't have the brains to work out that they are all false.
If one is real and the rest are false, please explain to me why this is!
Bob
A Brit. in Hong Kong
Only Arabs take this stuff seriously.
Izzy -Muslim, but not an Arab.
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03 Mar 2004 03:56:07 AM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another idiot into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan - a good rule
Bob
Hong kong
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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04 Mar 2004 12:24:06 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4045AAA7.5B81F117@netvigator.com...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan
You;re very welcome!
Thanks for taking it in the spirit in which it was intended.
- a good rule
I agree :-)
Susan
Bob
Hong kong
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| User: "Son of man" |
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04 Mar 2004 01:06:35 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aYz1c.36785$6K.5437@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4045AAA7.5B81F117@netvigator.com...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another
idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan
Two liars agreeing upon the same lie will never make it the truth.
I agree :-)
Good.
Susan
Bob
Hong kong
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| User: "bob young" |
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04 Mar 2004 08:30:11 PM |
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Son of man wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aYz1c.36785$6K.5437@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4045AAA7.5B81F117@netvigator.com...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another
idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan
Two liars agreeing upon the same lie will never make it the truth.
I agree :-)
Good.
this piece of dog garbage should call itself 'Son of Sam' - just about the
same ilk [look it up in a dictionary dogshit]
Susan
Bob
Hong kong
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
05 Mar 2004 01:01:05 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4047E522.F4CD54B1@netvigator.com...
Son of man wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aYz1c.36785$6K.5437@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4045AAA7.5B81F117@netvigator.com...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing another
idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan
Two liars agreeing upon the same lie will never make it the truth.
Physician, heal thyself.
I agree :-)
Good.
this piece of dog garbage should call itself 'Son of Sam' - just about the
same ilk [look it up in a dictionary dogshit]
Nah, he *aspires* to that.
Susan
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| User: "Son of man" |
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| Title: Re: Knoweldge is power |
05 Mar 2004 01:58:50 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4047E522.F4CD54B1@netvigator.com...
Son of man wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aYz1c.36785$6K.5437@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4045AAA7.5B81F117@netvigator.com...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40453A7B.E107F79C@netvigator.com...
Theists are terribly short on facts and so they
resort to playing word games in the hope they can swing
another
idiot
into
believing in their mythology.
Excuse me, all theists are not like this.
Jews, for example, do *not* proselytize.
In fact, we are forbidden to do so.
Susan
Thanks for the correction Susan
Two liars agreeing upon the same lie will never make it the truth.
Physician, heal thyself.
You're calling an evil spirit who orders the murder of children and their
mothers THE MOST HOLY GOD, and your telling me to heal myself?
I've already healed myself by DISPELLING THE BELIEF IN WHAT IS CRUEL AND
EVIL.
You haven't Susan. Your scriptures are based on an EVIL SPIRIT THAT ABIDES
IN DARKNESS. Your GOD is FALSE!
I agree :-)
Good.
this piece of dog garbage should call itself 'Son of Sam' - just about
the
same ilk [look it up in a dictionary dogshit]
Nah, he *aspires* to that.
Susan
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