"alexiastation" wrote:

My answers will require a fair bit of thought and refer you back to the
bible. My 14 questions are summarised at the end.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life.---John 3:16

Not what the historical Jesus of Nazareth said! This was
one of the last books in teh bible to be written (90 -120
CE) .... and not by the apostle John who was dead at the
time .... and the fundamentalist's favourite!!!!
*********this would not make me a fundie to believe it, for
the bible also says that the only way to heaven is through His
Son Jesus Christ our Lord and Rabbi.

God is greater than the bible. God is not fully contained in the bible.

Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God (GOD NOT THE
MESSIAH) with all your heart and with all your soul and
with all your mind.' This is the FIRST and GREATEST
COMMANDMENT. And the SECOND is like it: 'Love your
neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang
on these TWO COMMANDMENTS." - Matthew 22:37-40
*******this would beg the question of where you see the
Godhead personally.

There is only One God - YHWH.

1 Tim.2:5 "For there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between GOD and men, THE
MAN CHRIST JESUS."

Is this true or not?

to take away from Christ His Son, would also take away from
God, for His Son is God.

I don't believe so.

Number 23:19 - "God is not a man"
Jesus of Nazareth is a man.
Jesus said "God is Spirit" (John 4:24)

Is the historical Jesus of Nazareth an INFINITE spirit?
If YES ... then he is God.
If NO ... then he is not God.

Do you believe in the Son of God mark?

Jesus called himself the Son of Man. What does that mean?

Yes, your point is what?

Which of the greatest commandments given by the historical Jesus of
Nazareth state that one has to believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the same
as YHWH?

do away with John 3:16?

Reinterpret John 3:16 ... which is part of the last gospel to written ...
and not by the apostle John who was dead at the time - 90 -120 CE

Or Christ altogether?

I believe that Jesusis is the human Messiah / Christ OF GOD.

Jesus of Nazareth is GOD's Messiah / Christ not God's God.

Do a word study on "God's Messiah".

Just as was said, the Lord's prayer our example, Our Father who
art in Heaven, hallowed be thy Name. God is Master of all

Correct!!!!

Jesus did NOT say ....

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Our Jesus who is our God in Heavin,
Hello to your name,
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus,
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus,
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus,
Jesus,
Your Trew Kristyun country, the USA, become great forever and ever Amen
Fundamentalists' will be done on earth as it is in Trew Kristyun Heavin
Give us today our daily interest on our invested money in oil shares,
"In Oil We Trust"
Forgive us our debts as we also have forgotten to pay them
And lead us not into the temptation of disbelieving the Bible - ever!
But deliver us from new age, pagan, secular humanist, evolutionists
And evil liberal Christians
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His son whom sits at the right of the throne also worshiped His
Father.

So why would God worship God?

Without Christ we could not reach the Father

How did Abraham and Moses reach God without Jesus of Nazareth or a bible?

we where seperated by sin.

"I (GOD NOT YHWH'S MESSIAH), even I (GOD NOT YHWH'S MESSIAH),
am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers
your sins no more. " - Isaiah 43:25

Is salvation something God (YHWH) has done or some thing the human Messiah
has done?

Isaiah 25:9
And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this [is] our God; we have
waited for him, and he will save us: this [is] the LORD; we have
waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.

You are ASSUMING that this verse speaks about Jesus. It doesn't!

1 PETER 3:6 " Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord."

Is Abraham God??????????

The Word::::

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper
than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing
assunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and
marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents
of the heart." --- Hebrews 4:12

So is the "word of God" the Logos as in John 1:1 OR

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the
Spirit, which is the Word of God."--- Ephesians 6:17

The sword of the Spirit is the word of God!!!

Either way the "word of God" is not the bible which had
not been written at the time ... and was not placed into
the form we now have it unbtil 400 CE.

What IS the "word of God"?

- Logos?
- sword of the Spirit?
- the bible?
- something completely different?
- many different things?

Try doing a word study on "word of God".

Set your affection on things above, not on things on the
earth.---Colossians 3:2

" ... the example of Moses, Daniel, and Paul, who were
skilful in the learning of the Egyptians, Chaldeans, and
Greeks, which could not possibly be without reading their
books of all sorts, in Paul especially, who thought it no
defilement to insert into Holy Scripture the sentences of
three Greek poets, and one of them a tragedian ..." (Acts
17:28 from Aratus; 1 Corinthians 15:33 from Euripides;
Titus 1:12 from Epimenides)

John Milton "Areopagitica" (1644) [Appleton- Century
Crofts; New York:1951]p. 14


<snip remaining Bible Verse Vomit. Justification:
Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21 - ALL of it!>

Is this the image that you are presenting?

Yep!

Bible Justification: Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21 - ALL of it! Not just
selected bits and pieces .... ALL of it.

A Bible Verse Vomit proves nothing. Anyone can string a few bible verses
together to prove whatever they want. All truth is God's truth. Value
truth above the fallible bible.

I can not see how you can know God's character without studying His
word.

How did Abraham and Moses know God without a bible?

Is the God of Abraham and Moses still with us today?

"In Him (God) we live and move and have our being" - Acts 17:28

I see that you have no honor for the Son of God

Jesus said were are to love ALL the sons / and daughters of God - second
greatest commandment - read it sometime.

We are all sons (and daughters) of God made in the image of the One God
YHWH.

"You are gods; you are all Sons of the Most High." (Psalm 82:6)

(Are we all gods???? ... or do we just ignore that verse???)

"You are children of the Lord your God." (Deuteronomy 14:1)

Adam is called the Son of God. (Luke 3:38)

Ephraim is a Son of God. (Jeremiah 31:9)

Jacob is called the first born Son of God. (Exodus 4:22)

Solomon is called the Son of God. (I Chronicles 22:10)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the Sons of God."
(Matthew 5:9)


The bible says "In Him (God) we live and move and have our being". Acts
17:28.

I take that as true.

Do we live and move and have our being in the historical Jesus of
Nazareth?

If YES - then Jesus is God and Jesus is here now for we live and move and
have our being in God.

If NO - then Jesus is not God for we live and move and have our being in
God
and if we don't live and move and have our being in Jesus then he can't be
God.

Did the apsotles live and move and have their being in the historical
Jesus of Nazareth?
If YES - How is this possible?
If NO - then Jesus is not God for we live and move and have our being in
God
and if we don't live and move and have our being in Jesus then he can't be
God.


God is infinite Spirit.

Is the historical Jesus of Nazareth an INFINITE spirit?

If YES ... then he is God.

If NO ... then he is not God.

Do you not believe that God sent His Son for your salvation? Yes ___
No___

Yes / No. It depends on how you look at it.

Only God saves through His grace, love and mercy ... just as Jews and
Moslems believe. The Messiah tells us the good news about God's
salvation.

"I (GOD NOT YHWH'S MESSIAH), even I (GOD NOT YHWH'S MESSIAH),
am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers
your sins no more. " - Isaiah 43:25

What is recorded in Mark and Matthew about the CONTENT of the gospel that
Jesus preached?

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MARK'S GOSPEL (ending at Mark 16:8)

1:15; 4:11; 4:14; 6:12; 9:1;13:9-10 all describe the gospel / good news as
announcing that the kingdom [realm] of God is here so one must turn away
from one's sins. Nothing more! Count how many times Jesus says the "the
kingdom of God is like" in Mark's gospel!

MATTHEW'S GOSPEL

4:17; 4:23; 5:19; 6:33; 7:21; 9:35; 10:7; 11:12; 12:28; 13:11; 13:19;
13:38;
13;52; 18:2; 19:23; 21:31 21:43; 23:13; 24:34; 25:34 ff; 26:13; describe
the
gospel / good news as announcing that the kingdom [realm] of heaven is
here
so one must turn away from one's sins. Nothing more! (Matthew prefers
'kingdom of heaven" to "kingdom of God") Count how many times Jesus
says
the "the kingdom of God is like" in Matthew's gospel!

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There is one thing that I am sure of, and I have seen this to be
true, demons recoil at the word of God. What would that say
about your belief?

Nothing. That is opure speculation built upon subjective opinion.

Looking forward to you answers to my 14 Questions summarised as ....

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1. 1 Tim.2:5 "For there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between GOD and men,
THE MAN CHRIST JESUS." Is this true or not?

2. Number 23:19 - "God is not a man"
Jesus of Nazareth is a man.
Jesus said "God is Spirit" (John 4:24)
Is the historical Jesus of Nazareth an INFINITE spirit?
If YES ... then he is God.
If NO ... then he is not God.

3. Jesus called himself the Son of Man. What does that mean?

4. Which of the greatest commandments given by the historical Jesus of
Nazareth states that one has to believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the same
as YHWH?

5. Why would God worship God?

6. How did Abraham and Moses reach God without Jesus of Nazareth or a
bible?

7. Is salvation something God (YHWH) has done or some thing the human
Messiah has done?

8. 1 PETER 3:6 " Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord." Is Abraham
God??????????

9. What IS the "word of God"?
- Logos?
- sword of the Spirit?
- the bible?
- something completely different?
- many different things?

10. Is the God of Abraham and Moses still with us today?

11. "You are gods; you are all Sons of the Most High." (Psalm 82:6) Are
we all gods???? ... or do we just ignore that verse???

12. "In Him (God) we live and move and have our being". Acts 17:28. Do we
live and move and have our being in the historical Jesus of Nazareth?

If YES - then Jesus is God and Jesus is here now for we live and move and
have our being in God.

If NO - then Jesus is not God for we live and move and have our being in
God
and if we don't live and move and have our being in Jesus then he can't be
God.

13. Did the apostles live and move and have their being in the historical
Jesus of Nazareth?
If YES - How is this possible?
If NO - then Jesus is not God for we live and move and have our being in
God
and if we don't live and move and have our being in Jesus then he can't be
God.

14. What is recorded in Mark and Matthew about the CONTENT of the gospel
that
Jesus preached?