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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Craig Chilton" |
| Date: |
06 Oct 2003 05:55:40 AM |
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Re: My opinion on abortion |
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:12:07 GMT,
"Jason" <Darker@Shaw.ca> wrote:
Regarding abortion:
To all you women out there, if you have sex with a guy, then
it's YOUR responsibility to deal with the consequences.
IF there are any "consequences." (People like Jason just LOVE
to see people who enjoy casual sex suffering "consequences."
They're *consequences-freaks.* They GET OFF on such hateful
idiocy. They have no lives, and probably were born with a Busybody
gene.
But if you *should* happen to get pregnant... AND you have a fair
partner... AND you choose to have an abortion, then *your partner* will
probably pay the fee, since *you* have to go through the discomfort.
If you don't want a kid, don't have sex.
Or have sex to your heart's content. Just because sociopaths
like Jason can't stand to see other people having fun is no reason
that *you* can't. If you don't want a kid, and you happen to get
pregnant, that can easily be CURED.
If you can't keep your pants on, and then you get pregnant, then
fucking DEAL WITH IT! Have the baby. Raise it. Take care of it.
Of course, if you DON'T want to do that, always remember that the
remedy of abortion is safe, legal, and readily available to you. Thus,
you have TWO options. And the fair-minded Pro-Choice majority will
make sure that you will ALWAYS hgave those two options, and that
NO assh*les like Jason, here, will EVER change that one iota.
The only time I think I would approve of an abortion is if a girl
was raped.
That's because you are an ignorant SCHMUCK, Jason.
And fortunately, your "approval" is totally unnecessary and
irrelevant.
But even then, maybe she should have the child and then
put it up for adoption.
Or NOT. *Her* choice, and *her* choice ONLY. Absolutely NONE of
*your* business, Jason, nor that of anyone else.
We live in a society where it's legal to have an abortion. Are there
any morals left in the world today? Are there any decent people left?
There sure ARE, in answer to both questions. Thanks to the fact
that MOST people aren't even remotely like YOU, Jason, and the respect
people's rights. And DON'T sek to DENY valuable remedies to them.
Such as abortion.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Dorothy" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 08:56:46 AM |
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"Craig Chilton" <> wrote in message
news:3f82461d.1786602@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:12:07 GMT,
"Jason" <Darker@Shaw.ca> wrote:
Regarding abortion:
To all you women out there, if you have sex with a guy, then
it's YOUR responsibility to deal with the consequences.
IF there are any "consequences." (People like Jason just LOVE
to see people who enjoy casual sex suffering "consequences."
They're *consequences-freaks.* They GET OFF on such hateful
idiocy. They have no lives, and probably were born with a Busybody
gene.
But if you *should* happen to get pregnant... AND you have a fair
partner... AND you choose to have an abortion, then *your partner* will
probably pay the fee, since *you* have to go through the discomfort.
If you don't want a kid, don't have sex.
Or have sex to your heart's content. Just because sociopaths
like Jason can't stand to see other people having fun is no reason
that *you* can't. If you don't want a kid, and you happen to get
pregnant, that can easily be CURED.
If you can't keep your pants on, and then you get pregnant, then
fucking DEAL WITH IT! Have the baby. Raise it. Take care of it.
Of course, if you DON'T want to do that, always remember that the
remedy of abortion is safe, legal, and readily available to you. Thus,
you have TWO options. And the fair-minded Pro-Choice majority will
make sure that you will ALWAYS hgave those two options, and that
NO assh*les like Jason, here, will EVER change that one iota.
The only time I think I would approve of an abortion is if a girl
was raped.
That's because you are an ignorant SCHMUCK, Jason.
And fortunately, your "approval" is totally unnecessary and
irrelevant.
But even then, maybe she should have the child and then
put it up for adoption.
Or NOT. *Her* choice, and *her* choice ONLY. Absolutely NONE of
*your* business, Jason, nor that of anyone else.
We live in a society where it's legal to have an abortion. Are
there
any morals left in the world today? Are there any decent people left?
There sure ARE, in answer to both questions. Thanks to the fact
that MOST people aren't even remotely like YOU, Jason, and the respect
people's rights. And DON'T sek to DENY valuable remedies to them.
Such as abortion.
-- Craig Chilton
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you follow? And by
"standards" I mean something that applies in all times and places. Do try
to be a bit specific at least, stating your position on specific actions
rather than a kind of creepy answer like "I believe in being a good guy."
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 09:09:34 AM |
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Dorothy wrote:
"Craig Chilton" < > wrote in message
news:3f82461d.1786602@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:12:07 GMT,
"Jason" <Darker@Shaw.ca> wrote:
Regarding abortion:
To all you women out there, if you have sex with a guy, then
it's YOUR responsibility to deal with the consequences.
IF there are any "consequences." (People like Jason just LOVE
to see people who enjoy casual sex suffering "consequences."
They're *consequences-freaks.* They GET OFF on such hateful
idiocy. They have no lives, and probably were born with a Busybody
gene.
But if you *should* happen to get pregnant... AND you have a fair
partner... AND you choose to have an abortion, then *your partner* will
probably pay the fee, since *you* have to go through the discomfort.
If you don't want a kid, don't have sex.
Or have sex to your heart's content. Just because sociopaths
like Jason can't stand to see other people having fun is no reason
that *you* can't. If you don't want a kid, and you happen to get
pregnant, that can easily be CURED.
If you can't keep your pants on, and then you get pregnant, then
fucking DEAL WITH IT! Have the baby. Raise it. Take care of it.
Of course, if you DON'T want to do that, always remember that the
remedy of abortion is safe, legal, and readily available to you. Thus,
you have TWO options. And the fair-minded Pro-Choice majority will
make sure that you will ALWAYS hgave those two options, and that
NO assh*les like Jason, here, will EVER change that one iota.
The only time I think I would approve of an abortion is if a girl
was raped.
That's because you are an ignorant SCHMUCK, Jason.
And fortunately, your "approval" is totally unnecessary and
irrelevant.
But even then, maybe she should have the child and then
put it up for adoption.
Or NOT. *Her* choice, and *her* choice ONLY. Absolutely NONE of
*your* business, Jason, nor that of anyone else.
We live in a society where it's legal to have an abortion. Are
there
any morals left in the world today? Are there any decent people left?
There sure ARE, in answer to both questions. Thanks to the fact
that MOST people aren't even remotely like YOU, Jason, and the respect
people's rights. And DON'T sek to DENY valuable remedies to them.
Such as abortion.
-- Craig Chilton
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you follow? And by
"standards" I mean something that applies in all times and places. Do try
to be a bit specific at least, stating your position on specific actions
rather than a kind of creepy answer like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 11:17:18 AM |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:09:34 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 11:18:19 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:09:34 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
-- Craig Chilton
I thought you said I was right about my position on gay issues. Have
you joined the "pro-liar" side?
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 11:23:27 AM |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:18:19 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
I thought you said I was right about my position on gay issues. Have
you joined the "pro-liar" side?
If you are Pro-Gay-Rights, I'd forgotten. In that event, I
apologize to that extent.
And THAT would make you a paradox!
Why would ANY person seek to DEFEND *one* group of
people (in this case, gays), but TRASH *another* (women)?
That does NOT compute!!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 11:44:21 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:18:19 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
I thought you said I was right about my position on gay issues. Have
you joined the "pro-liar" side?
If you are Pro-Gay-Rights, I'd forgotten. In that event, I
apologize to that extent.
Cool.
And THAT would make you a paradox!
Why would ANY person seek to DEFEND *one* group of
people (in this case, gays), but TRASH *another* (women)?
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women), I
see two (women and their babies). I favor women's rights possibly more
than you do. I favor letting them be drafted, letting them sign up for
combat if they wish, subsidized child care for single mothers so they
don't have to rely on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc. I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree on
anything when it comes to abortion.
That does NOT compute!!
-- Craig Chilton
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 12:13:59 PM |
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"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation that
made abortion illegal.
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 12:15:44 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 12:32:26 PM |
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"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 06:29:43 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:32:26 -0700,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one. And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able
to agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
We probably won't, as long as you are willing to TRASH the **ONLY**
group of people involved: the women. Any *other* "group of people"
being considered by you is a figment of your very warped and hateful
imagination.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to
an abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
Then you're BOTH crazier than hell. (No suurprise though. A
sizeable dose of that is a prerequisite for BEING an Anti-Choicer. Right
along with abject ignorance.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a
woman who hates abortion, find a woman who has had one;
quite militant.
Wrong. Proving that you are either a blatant liar, an ignoramus,
or both. HERE is the TRUTH of the matter. (You probably will let it
SAIL right over your head, in true Anti-Choicer fashion... but OTHER
readers in here will watch with interest as it devastates your claim):
NOTE **especially** this FIRST paragraph about that:
Research studies indicate that emotional responses to legally
induced abortion are largely positive. They also indicate that
emotional problems resulting from abortion are rare and less frequent
than those following childbirth (Adler, 1989).
Anti-family planning extremists, however, circulate unfounded
claims that a majority of the 29 percent of pregnant American women
who choose to terminate their pregnancies (Henshaw & Van Vort,
1990) suffer severe and longlasting emotional trauma as a result.
They call this nonexistent phenomenon "postabortion trauma" or
"postabortion syndrome." They hope that terms like these will gain
wide currency and credibility despite the fact that neither the American
Psychological Association nor the American Psychiatric Association
recognizes the existence of these phenomena.
The truth is that most studies in the last 20 years have found
abortion to be a relatively benign procedure in terms of emotional
effect -- except when preabortion emotional problems exist or when a
wanted pregnancy is terminated, such as after diagnostic genetic
testing (Adler, 1989; Adler et al., 1990). The many studies of the
emotional effects of abortion, however, do not measure precisely the
same variables in regard to culture, time, demographics, or the
socioeconomic and psychological situation of women who seek
abortion. Since the results of these studies cannot be combined
or "averaged out," the following data illustrate, in general, the
conclusions of the overwhelming majority of more than 50 of the
worldwide studies that have measured the emotional effects of
abortion since its legalization in the U.S. in 1973.
Cited References:
Adler, Nancy E. (1989). University of California at San Francisco,
Statement on Behalf of the American Psychological Association
Before the Human Resources and Intergovernmental Relations
Subcommittee of the Committee on Governmental Operations,
U. S. House of Representatives: 130140.
Henshaw, Stanley K. & Jane Silverman. (1988). "The Characteristics
and Prior Contraceptive Use of U. S. Abortion Patients." Family
Planning Perspectives, 20(4), 158159 & 162168.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 08:15:31 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f82ec24.44296017@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:32:26 -0700,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I
said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one. And as long as that situation remains, we will never be
able
to agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
We probably won't, as long as you are willing to TRASH the **ONLY**
group of people involved: the women. Any *other* "group of people"
being considered by you is a figment of your very warped and hateful
imagination.
Chilton supports a Man's right to an abortion.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 08:41:02 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:15:31 -0700,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
Chilton supports a Man's right to an abortion.
You made the same utterly STUPID statement in
another post.
Afraid that not enough people would see what an
ignorant loon you are, were you?
You are truly a moron.
Therefore meeting the first prerequisite for BEING
an Anti-Choicer.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 09:43:11 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f8e188f.55668837@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:15:31 -0700,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
Chilton supports a Man's right to an abortion.
You made the same utterly STUPID statement in
another post.
Afraid that not enough people would see what an
ignorant loon you are, were you?
You are truly a moron.
Therefore meeting the first prerequisite for BEING
an Anti-Choicer.
I don't believe prohibition ever stopped abortion.
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 08:58:51 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f82ec24.44296017@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:32:26 -0700,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I
said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one. And as long as that situation remains, we will never be
able
to agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
We probably won't, as long as you are willing to TRASH the **ONLY**
group of people involved: the women. Any *other* "group of people"
being considered by you is a figment of your very warped and hateful
imagination.
Chilton supports a Man's right to an abortion.
That's because he's a big, erect penis.
--
Why do more men than women support legal abortion? Abortion is a man's
best friend. It enables him to pressure his woman to kill her offspring
and allows her man to enjoy sex without consequences. Abortion. What a
beautiful choice.
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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06 Oct 2003 04:31:33 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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06 Oct 2003 04:37:01 PM |
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"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at
one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to
an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who
hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
But guess what, O Clueless One:
They got to make the decision for themselves, without some clusterfuck,
busybody making up lies and forcing them to bear a child they weren't ready
for.
And *THAT* is the fucking point.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
How the ***** did you get out of killfile? Change your address, again,
attention *****?
-DMc.
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| User: "Barbara Walker" |
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06 Oct 2003 04:44:08 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1glgb.66357$_N1.29939@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I
am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at
one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right
to
an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the
legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought
it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who
hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
But guess what, O Clueless One:
They got to make the decision for themselves, without some clusterfuck,
busybody making up lies and forcing them to bear a child they weren't
ready
for.
And *THAT* is the fucking point.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
Hey Mr. Sicko Liberal Democrat: How is a woman CHOOSING to engage in
sexual intercourse "forcing her to bear a child she wasn't ready for", you
dumb leftist *****??
You pro-abortionists have got to be some of the DUMBEST mental LOSERS
Americans have EVER seen. You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper
sack full of feces if your pathetic liberal life depended on it, Sweetheart.
Your IQ has GOT to be less than 90, based on your dumb claim above, Donald.
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| User: "Patrick Humphrey" |
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06 Oct 2003 05:22:15 PM |
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"Barbara Walker" <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> writes:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1glgb.66357$_N1.29939@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I
said, I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are
looking only at one. And as long as that situation remains, we
will never be able to agree on anything when it comes to
abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right
to an abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the
legislation that made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who
hates abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of them
have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they had.
But guess what, O Clueless One:
They got to make the decision for themselves, without some clusterfuck,
busybody making up lies and forcing them to bear a child they weren't ready
for.
And *THAT* is the fucking point.
Hey Mr. Sicko Liberal Democrat: How is a woman CHOOSING to engage in
sexual intercourse "forcing her to bear a child she wasn't ready for", you
dumb leftist *****??
How do *you* know she got to choose, brain-damaged Texas reject? Don's about
as much of a Democrat as you're conscious.
You pro-abortionists have got to be some of the DUMBEST mental LOSERS
Americans have EVER seen. You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper
sack full of feces if your pathetic liberal life depended on it, Sweetheart.
Yeah, it's so much easier to let your party leaders tell you how to respond --
who needs a brain for that, right? Revel in your ignorance, Boobs. It's
obviously about all you've got left.
Your IQ has GOT to be less than 90, based on your dumb claim above, Donald.
....which means yours is definitely less than 70, based on your reading
comprehension, Babbles. Maybe if you had an adult try and teach you what
those big words really mean...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 06:11:45 PM |
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"Barbara Walker" <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Imlgb.511090$cF.181929@rwcrnsc53...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1glgb.66357$_N1.29939@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said,
I
am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at
one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able
to
agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's
right
to
an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the
legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I
brought
it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman
who
hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
But guess what, O Clueless One:
They got to make the decision for themselves, without some clusterfuck,
busybody making up lies and forcing them to bear a child they weren't
ready
for.
And *THAT* is the fucking point.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
Hey Mr. Sicko Liberal Democrat:
I'm not a democrat, you stupid ***** receptacle.
I'm a capitalist pig, the epitome of consumption, and a member of the
i.p.a.a. (That's the Independent Petroleum Association of America.) That
makes me a fiscal conservative.
How is a woman CHOOSING to engage in
sexual intercourse "forcing her to bear a child she wasn't ready for", you
dumb leftist *****??
Well, try reading next time, you illiterate *****. Nothing was said about
"CHOOSING to engage in sex.." The subject was that some women that
[unfortunately] knew Mr. Simpson regretted having an abortion. My point was
that they got to make their own decisions.
Maybe you couldn't get your stinkhole plugged if you were in a men's prison,
but that doesn't mean that other people share your sexual frustrations.
Maybe you should resort to farm animals, since they aren't as picky.
You pro-abortionists have got to be some of the DUMBEST mental LOSERS
Americans have EVER seen.
Since I'm not "pro-abortion," this statement of yours would indicate that
you are just a pus laced bag of estrogen that stuck her tampon in the wrong
fuckhole one time too many and it has interferred with your [limited]
ability to create a rational and coherent thought.
You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper
sack full of feces if your pathetic liberal life depended on it,
Sweetheart.
Ahhh. Nothing quite like watching the little people string together their
various forms of ineptitude trying to make an insult. But it is a lost
cause, since it is *YOU* that showed their inability to follow along with a
subject and remain on topic.
And there's that liberal term again, in a futile attempt to give you
blathering some sort of credibility.
Your IQ has GOT to be less than 90,
But it is actually quite higher. Sometimes I just dumb-down my posts so that
socially promoted, borderline retards like you can understand them.
based on your dumb claim above, Donald.
My dumb claim? My claim that the women in question got to make their own
decisions? Since Roe v Wade, women get to make their own decisions regarding
their pregnancies and their own bodies without some self-righteous skank
(like you) telling them what to do, it wasn't a claim, but an observation.
Simpson knew some women that got abortions without interference from you and
your ilk. That makes me exactly right.
Also, with regard to your statement of "90 IQ:" your nonsense couldn't be
further from the truth. Intelligent people think for themselves, and assume
that others are equally adept. Only arrogant, stupid, back-water, gossipy
cunts like you are afraid of poeple making their own decisions, since you
are incapable of either. (i.e. making decisions for yourself or letting
others make their own.)
Touche, cottage-cheese thighs. And welcome to killfile.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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06 Oct 2003 06:52:39 PM |
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In article <Imlgb.511090$cF.181929@rwcrnsc53>, barbara.walker4
@verizon.net says...
How is a woman CHOOSING to engage in
sexual intercourse "forcing her to bear a child she wasn't ready for",
Choosing to have sex is not the same as choosing to become pregnant
accidentally, just as choosing to travel from A to B is not the same as
choosing to have a road/rail/air collision accidentally.
However, if someone does accidentally become injured from pregnancy
occurring or does accidentally become injured from a collision
occurring, forcing that person to not have their accidental medical
condition treated and cleared up as quickly as possible is forcing them
to bear that condition for weeks/months/years longer than is necessary.
There is only one accidental medical condition I can think of where
people (without that accidental condition) are trying to force laws to
make prompt and effective treatment to clear that condition quickly
illegal.
Why is it only that particular medical condition (pregnancy) that you
wish to force people NOT to be able to legally have the condition
cleared promptly? Why is it only that conditrion that you wish to make
it illegal to have treated to shorten the length of time the condition
is affecting the patient (and making the patient safer in the meantime)
compared to the time 'nature' would take to clear up the condition or
kill the patient?
Why not any other accidentally acquired condition too? Colds, flu,
cancer, diabetes, fractures, heart conditions, ulcers etc, etc, etc...
anyone looking to have such a condition cleared up quickly and safely
obviously didn't TRY to acquire that condition... the condition clearly
occurred despite the person trying to avoid it happening. Just like
accidental pregnancies.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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06 Oct 2003 06:38:09 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:44:08 GMT,
Barbara Walker <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> wrote:
How is a woman CHOOSING to engage in sexual intercourse
"forcing her to bear a child she wasn't ready for?"
It isn't, thanks to the remedy of abortion being safe, legal, and
accessible. Hateful assholes like YOU who can't even mind their own
business about matters that are NONE of their business, STUPIDLY
want to change that.
Not that you EVER will. The Pro-Choice majority will make SURE of
that.
You pro-abortionists...
"Pro-CHOICERS," ignoramus.
Morons like *you* seek to leave women with NO choice but to gestate to
term, whther they want to or not. On the other hand, fair-minded and
sensible egalitarians don't care one whit WHICH choice th woman makes, as
long as it is HER choice, and she can access it easily, and without
coercion in EITHER direction.
...have got to be some of the DUMBEST mental LOSERS Americans
have EVER seen.
No. People like YOU are, for the reason just stated.
You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper sack full of feces
if your pathetic liberal life depended on it, Sweetheart.
Gee. That's an even BETTER description of loathesome losers like
*you* than the accurate decripotors that I've been employing. I'll have
to remenber that one!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
06 Oct 2003 05:54:17 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at
one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to
an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who
hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
But guess what, O Clueless One:
They got to make the decision for themselves, without some clusterfuck,
busybody making up lies and forcing them to bear a child they weren't ready
for.
And *THAT* is the fucking point.
Sure it is.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
How the ***** did you get out of killfile? Change your address, again,
attention *****?
-DMc.
Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Abortion is a man's right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy so his sex
life remains carefree.
That's why men support legal abortion.
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Laira" |
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08 Oct 2003 01:05:45 PM |
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"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message news:<3F81DF0F.5E1C@excite.com>...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F81A31E.6A46@excite.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com...
Craig Chilton wrote:
<snip>
I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree
on
anything when it comes to abortion.
You miss the point Robert, what Chilton supports is a Man's right to an
abortion. That right is why Susan B. Anthony pushed the legislation
that
made abortion illegal.
Noooooooooo. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I brought it
up myself earlier.
In that case, you have Chilton made. If you want to find a woman who hates
abortion, find a woman who has had one; quite militant.
I quite agree. I've known three women who've had abortions. Two of
them have mentioned one of the biggest regrets as the abortions they
had.
Do you have anything better than your personal observations to back
that up with? Because my personal observations say that people who are
pro-life get laughed at, and people warn their children to stay away
from them, in addition to that women generally are relieved after an
abortion. Problems occur when someone didn't really want an abortion
(duh!). If your personal observations count as proof of something,
then so do mine.
--
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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06 Oct 2003 06:40:48 PM |
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In article <3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com>, says...
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women), I
see two (women and their babies). I favor women's rights possibly more
than you do. I favor letting them be drafted, letting them sign up for
combat if they wish, subsidized child care for single mothers so they
don't have to rely on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc. I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree on
anything when it comes to abortion.
Do you support subsidised child care for single fathers?
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| User: "Robert T. Simpson" |
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06 Oct 2003 07:20:38 PM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <3F819C0E.6CDF@excite.com>, says...
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women), I
see two (women and their babies). I favor women's rights possibly more
than you do. I favor letting them be drafted, letting them sign up for
combat if they wish, subsidized child care for single mothers so they
don't have to rely on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc. I do
not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said, I am
looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only at one.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to agree on
anything when it comes to abortion.
Do you support subsidised child care for single fathers?
Of course.
--
Why do more men than women support legal abortion? Abortion is a man's
best friend. It enables him to pressure his woman to kill her offspring
and allows her man to enjoy sex without consequences. Abortion. What a
beautiful choice.
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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06 Oct 2003 10:31:42 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:44:21 GMT,
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
I thought you said I was right about my position on gay issues. Have
you joined the "pro-liar" side?
If you are Pro-Gay-Rights, I'd forgotten. In that event, I
apologize to that extent.
Cool.
And THAT would make you a paradox!
Why would ANY person seek to DEFEND *one* group of
people (in this case, gays), but TRASH *another* (women)?
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women), I
see two (women and their babies).
Which would be logical, except that this is abortion we're talking
about, and abortion has nothing at all whatsoever to do with babies --
ALL of which have been BORN.
I favor women's rights possibly more than you do. I favor letting
them be drafted, letting them sign up for combat if they wish,
subsidized child care for single mothers so they don't have to rely
on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc.
Same here. in ALL those case.
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one.
Yeah. The only one that has REAL people in it. POTENTIAL people
(and that includes the quadrillion potential people of Stage One of the
reproductive process that are electively aborted daily, worldwide, via
male masturbation) count for *nothing*, unless and until BORN alive.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
I feel sorry for you. And for anyone else who is so delusional, and
has the desire to impose immense hardship and misery upon millions
of women for no good reason.
That does NOT compute!!
-- Craig Chilton
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07 Oct 2003 03:51:12 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:44:21 GMT,
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
[ ... ]
OK Craig. Give it a shot. Just what moral standards do you
follow? And by "standards" I mean something that applies in all
times and places. Do try to be a bit specific at least, stating your
position on specific actions rather than a kind of creepy answer
like "I believe in being a good guy."
Craig's standards are defined this way: Whatever makes me feel good
inside at the moment, that thing is right. Whatever makes me feel bad
inside at the moment, that thing is wrong. But if what makes me feel
bad now in the future makes me feel good, then that thing is then
right.
Wrong again. Situation normal, for you! I've never seen
you be right about anything yet.
See my response to Dorothy for the truth.
I thought you said I was right about my position on gay issues. Have
you joined the "pro-liar" side?
If you are Pro-Gay-Rights, I'd forgotten. In that event, I
apologize to that extent.
Cool.
And THAT would make you a paradox!
Why would ANY person seek to DEFEND *one* group of
people (in this case, gays), but TRASH *another* (women)?
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women), I
see two (women and their babies).
Which would be logical, except that this is abortion we're talking
about, and abortion has nothing at all whatsoever to do with babies --
ALL of which have been BORN.
I favor women's rights possibly more than you do. I favor letting
them be drafted, letting them sign up for combat if they wish,
subsidized child care for single mothers so they don't have to rely
on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc.
Same here. in ALL those case.
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one.
Yeah. The only one that has REAL people in it. POTENTIAL people
(and that includes the quadrillion potential people of Stage One of the
reproductive process that are electively aborted daily, worldwide, via
male masturbation) count for *nothing*, unless and until BORN alive.
Since when did masturbation constitute abortion?
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
I feel sorry for you. And for anyone else who is so delusional, and
has the desire to impose immense hardship and misery upon millions
of women for no good reason.
That does NOT compute!!
-- Craig Chilton
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Why do more men than women support legal abortion? Abortion is a man's
best friend. It enables him to pressure his woman to kill her offspring
and allows her man to enjoy sex without consequences. Abortion. What a
beautiful choice.
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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| Title: Re: My opinion on abortion |
07 Oct 2003 04:28:04 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:51:12 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
[ ... ]
...And THAT would make you a paradox!
Why would ANY person seek to DEFEND *one* group of
people (in this case, gays), but TRASH *another* (women)?
What you fail to grasp is that while you only see on group (women),
I see two (women and their babies).
Which would be logical, except that this is abortion we're talking
about, and abortion has nothing at all whatsoever to do with babies --
ALL of which have been BORN.
I favor women's rights possibly more than you do. I favor letting
them be drafted, letting them sign up for combat if they wish,
subsidized child care for single mothers so they don't have to rely
on welfare, ordaining women as pastors, etc.
Same here. in ALL those case.
I do not, however, favor any right to abortion because, as I said,
I am looking at two groups of people whereas you are looking only
at one.
Yeah. The only one that has REAL people in it. POTENTIAL people
(and that includes the quadrillion potential people of Stage One of the
reproductive process that are electively aborted daily, worldwide, via
male masturbation) count for *nothing*, unless and until BORN alive.
Since when did masturbation constitute abortion?
Consider what masturbation IS. It's an action that is almost
always (and probably *literally* always) done for the pleasure thus
derived, and therefore it is an ELECTIVE action. As opposed to
being a necessary one. And in the process, it ends the lives of
over a million **potential** people at Stage One of the reproductive
process: gametes. (In this case, all are gametes that happen to
be sperm.) What is the significance of that? Read on.
Now, if you reverse-engineer any given person, you'll find that if
either his sperm or his ova had been killed before they had met, he
never would have been born. He EXISTED at ALL FOUR stages.
In Stage One, he quite literally still had a "split personality." But in
that form, ALL of his DNA was already present... he was therefore
a HUMAN entity (with a split personality)... he was the SAME unique
entity in that form that he would always be, since ALL of his DNA was
present at that stage. To trivialize his existance at that stage and
pretend that he was any LESS worthy of defense than his later
stages of the reproductive process would not only be ludicrous, but
downright stupid! The reproductive stages thus are all EQUALLY
defensible.
But that presents the Anti-Choicers with a quandry they CANNOT
surmount: SINCE all the stages are EQUALLY defensible... but one of
those stages, pragmatically, CANNOT BE defended, then they either do
what the Bible does, and defend NONE of them, while concentrating on
defending real PEOPLE... or they make foolish hypocrites of themselves.
In any case, the willful termination of a QUADROILLION *potential*
people, worldwide, daily, via male masturbation DOES therefore constitute
the elective abortion of same. Which FAR overshadows the infinitesmal
(by comparison) number of *potential* people that women abort.
And as long as that situation remains, we will never be able to
agree on anything when it comes to abortion.
I feel sorry for you. And for anyone else who is so delusional, and
has the desire to impose immense hardship and misery upon millions
of women for no good reason.
-- Craig Chilton
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