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"Point" |
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21 Dec 2003 08:20:12 AM |
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Re: Oppressing Populations is Wrongdoing |
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
... a racist. And a supporter of "Black Genocide."
You sure are, when you advocate things that will lead
to the deaths of black women ...
Nobody likes abortions or wants them. Those with some
brains and some ethics grant that they're necessary on
at least some occasions, and that the decision is that
of the woman herself.
Those without brains or ethics just keep on contributing
to the problems associated with motherhood and the
rearing of children while hoping to force it upon others
against their will.
... A firm believer in the concept of eugenics. Keep the
Blacks 'under control,' and in the ghetto ...
favor of 'white race' supremacy.
You must be, when you support racist abusers such as,
for example, the Bush regime. They're imposing toxins
on populations that are too poor to do anything about
it. Those toxins diminish the ability of those people
and their children to take advantage of education.
...I do not oppose abortion in the case
of a fetus threatening the life of the woman...
Actually, medically, there's at least some degree of risk
to a woman's life from gestation and moreso parturition,
in every case. You're done arguing against the proper
availability of this procedure for those who need it, then.
Spend your solstice season finding some other way to
try to oppress women and children, or better yet get
over the idea of forcing others to do your bidding.
... the typical
ignorant response of a ... pro-LIFE ...
Causing women to die rather than abort isn't pro-life.
Causing population increases when there are hungry
people, including women and children, everywhere
is downright viciously irresponsible. You were not
ever intended to worship any human beings, but
to empathize with them should you progress to
such a degree in your thinking and the level of
civilization in your emotional perspective.
Do you ever in any way actually manage to do anything
which diminishes rather than increases the challenges to
women in procreation and childrearing? How many kids
have you adopted, yourself? How many have you
saved from pollution and malnutrition and a lack of
a quality education or even the means to acquire
it in any way? How would you be making women
more likely to see pregnancies as viable for them?
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things
just to make you feel less guilty about the food you take
from the mouths of those already aware of it really seems
to be based on some conviction on your part that your
lack of ability to procreate could be resolved by force.
Hurting people for no valid reason is criminal action.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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21 Dec 2003 12:51:12 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:20:12 -0500, Point spake thusly:
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
... a racist. And a supporter of "Black Genocide."
You sure are, when you advocate things that will lead
to the deaths of black women ...
Nobody likes abortions or wants them.
Untrue.
Those with some
brains and some ethics grant that they're necessary on
at least some occasions, and that the decision is that
of the woman herself.
Wrong again. You make that statement based on your
world view. Your statement is made from arrogance.
Those without brains or ethics just keep on contributing
to the problems associated with motherhood and the
rearing of children while hoping to force it upon others
against their will.
The woman caused the situation, when she spread her
legs. And what of the father's? Fatherhood is forced
on them, when they don't want it. And before you tell
me that they shouldn't have had sex, remember, that
same argument works for the woman.
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things
just to make you feel less guilty about the food you take
from the mouths of those already aware of it really seems
to be based on some conviction on your part that your
lack of ability to procreate could be resolved by force.
Hurting people for no valid reason is criminal action.
If you're so concerned about people "hurting people",
then why not teach these women to keep their legs
closed. They won't do it, you say? Then shut up.
Stop blaming others for their problems.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
I know God won't give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
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| User: "golddodgearies" |
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| Title: Re: Oppressing Populations is Wrongdoing |
21 Dec 2003 01:02:35 PM |
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Point wrote in message news:<avabuv06aiannfksbtv1d9k24h0r371dmg@4ax.com>...
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
[snip]
Do you know what an argument is, retard, or do you think your
slobbering constitutes 'proof' that abortion isn't murder?
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| User: "Point" |
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22 Dec 2003 09:04:42 AM |
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A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
... a racist. And a supporter of "Black Genocide."
You sure are, when you advocate things that will lead
to the deaths of black women ...
Nobody likes abortions or wants them. Those with some
brains and some ethics grant that they're necessary on
at least some occasions, and that the decision is that
of the woman herself.
Those without brains or ethics just keep on contributing
to the problems associated with motherhood and the
rearing of children while hoping to force it upon others
against their will.
... A firm believer in the concept of eugenics. Keep the
Blacks 'under control,' and in the ghetto ...
favor of 'white race' supremacy.
You must be, when you support racist abusers such as,
for example, the Bush regime. They're imposing toxins
on populations that are too poor to do anything about
it. Those toxins diminish the ability of those people
and their children to take advantage of education.
...I do not oppose abortion in the case
of a fetus threatening the life of the woman...
Actually, medically, there's at least some degree of risk
to a woman's life from gestation and moreso parturition,
in every case. You're done arguing against the proper
availability of this procedure for those who need it, then.
Spend your solstice season finding some other way to
try to oppress women and children, or better yet get
over the idea of forcing others to do your bidding.
... the typical
ignorant response of a ... pro-LIFE ...
Causing women to die rather than abort isn't pro-life.
Causing population increases when there are hungry
people, including women and children, everywhere
is downright viciously irresponsible. You were not
ever intended to worship any human beings, but
to empathize with them should you progress to
such a degree in your thinking and the level of
civilization in your emotional perspective.
Do you ever in any way actually manage to do anything
which diminishes rather than increases the challenges to
women in procreation and childrearing? How many kids
have you adopted, yourself? How many have you
saved from pollution and malnutrition and a lack of
a quality education or even the means to acquire
it in any way? How would you be making women
more likely to see pregnancies as viable for them?
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things
just to make you feel less guilty about the food you take
from the mouths of those already aware of it really seems
to be based on some conviction on your part that your
lack of ability to procreate could be resolved by force.
Hurting people for no valid reason is criminal action.
golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote:
... murder ...
What is it when you force others to need abortions because
of your own selfishness and greed?
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| User: "Point" |
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23 Dec 2003 05:46:15 AM |
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Hater Dave (draymond@minister.com)
Point:
"...Hunger and homelessness increased in many of America's largest cities this year, with
growing demand for emergency food supplies for families with children, the elderly and
even people with jobs..."
All because the women couldn't keep their legs closed.
No, your obvious misogyny aside, the fact is that maternity
could be made a more tenable prospect if you weren't too
busy spending all your resources supporting corruption and
killings by warmongers.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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23 Dec 2003 09:01:09 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:46:15 -0500, Point spake thusly:
Hater Dave (draymond@minister.com)
Point:
"...Hunger and homelessness increased in many of America's largest cities this year, with
growing demand for emergency food supplies for families with children, the elderly and
even people with jobs..."
All because the women couldn't keep their legs closed.
No, your obvious misogyny aside, the fact is that maternity
could be made a more tenable prospect if you weren't too
busy spending all your resources supporting corruption and
killings by warmongers.
Another false accusation.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
http://www.creationists.org/ervin.html
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: Oppressing Populations is Wrongdoing |
24 Dec 2003 03:46:47 PM |
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Point wrote in message news:<1jaguv4coekrphk91ob3fovsjeghhgl252@4ax.com>...
Hater Dave (draymond@minister.com)
Point:
"...Hunger and homelessness increased in many of America's largest cities this year, with
growing demand for emergency food supplies for families with children, the elderly and
even people with jobs..."
There is no hunger in America. I have friends who tried to take 100
pounds of bannannas to the local food bank. They were turned away and
told that handling food was inconvenient.
also check out this story:
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/17/news_pf/Southpinellas/An_act_of_charity_sti.shtml
All because the women couldn't keep their legs closed.
It takes more than 'not keeping their legs closeed' to get pregnant.
You should have stayed in school and learned something.
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An act of charity sticks in craw
An advocate for the homeless plans to protest
how a free Thanksgiving meal was organized by
Without Walls church.
By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer
Published December 17, 2003
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On Thanksgiving Day, rather than bite the hand that had offered to
feed them, dozens of homeless, disabled and mentally ill people in St.
Petersburg passed up the free grub altogether.
Their gripe: They said they had been promised a 9 a.m. meal at
Carrabba's, a well-known Italian grill, on Fourth Street N.
But upon learning that a traditional Thanksgiving meal would be
brought in from Tampa, and that Carrabba's had simply provided space
to eat, group members decided to spend their holiday elsewhere.
"We'd been promised Carrabba's (food), so we didn't go," said Steve
Kersker, 53, a longtime homeless advocate, who said he would have
brought along 140 needy people. "It's not that we're ungrateful. It's
just that it was bait-and-switch. It isn't right."
They were passing up a good meal. The food that day was prepared by
the Palm, a top-dollar, valet-parking Tampa restaurant that prides
itself on steak, lobster and other entrees that start above $20.
In any case, the incident has snowballed into a planned Sunday morning
protest outside Without Walls International Church in Tampa.
The incentive for protest began on Thanksgiving Day when, their
Carrabba's hopes shattered, several of the boycotters accompanied
Kersker to a Starbucks in St. Petersburg for coffee and rolls instead.
Kersker said they felt disrespected by officials at Without Walls,
which had organized the meal. He said church officials never said they
would offer a traditional meal rather than food from the Carrabba's
menu.
Had the homeless and mentally ill folks with Kersker known that, he
said, they never would have considered showing up so early in the
morning.
"That's not a special dinner. That's the usual Thanksgiving dinner we
get," Kersker said. "There are other places in St. Petersburg that
serve (a similar) meal in the afternoon. We didn't want to have a
Thanksgiving breakfast."
Church officials regard the reaction as an unwarranted slap in the
face.
"This is crazy," said Pastor Robert Fruster, who was at the restaurant
that day. "(Kersker) says he felt he was misled, but there was nothing
misleading about it. I just don't understand what his problem was."
Kersker said he and several others asked for a meeting with head
pastor Randy White, but were told White's schedule was booked for the
next year. A church spokeswoman said Tuesday that Kersker's assertion
about the schedule was "simply not true."
After an e-mail in which Fruster wrote that "for someone to complain
about (the meal) means to me that they must not be hungry," Kersker
organized a protest.
Kersker plans to hire two charter buses from St. Petersburg on Sunday
morning, load them with the homeless and mentally ill, and bring the
picket line to Without Wall's front doorstep. All over the Carrabba's
food that wasn't.
* * *
Fruster, sounding dumbfounded at the complaints, said the church had
never promised food from Carrabba's menu. No matter where the meal
came from, he said, it was an act of charity.
"Carrabba's came on board late, and they could only give us the
facility," Fruster said, adding, "The Palm is just as nice as
Carrabba's."
He said the church fed about 1,000 homeless, disabled or otherwise
needy people on Thanksgiving. Many were served at Wright's Gourmet
House or Donatello, restaurants on Dale Mabry Highway in Tampa.
Both places faced overcrowding, Fruster said, so some people where
bused from Tampa to the Carrabba's. A church bus also picked up other
homeless people in St. Petersburg and brought them to the restaurant.
Fruster said all the restaurants involved gave purely out of charity,
and those who came for food were appreciative.
"You're talking about 1,000 people being fed, and (only a few)
complaining," Fruster said. "(Kersker) never even came down to find
out."
What's more, the church had handed out thousands of turkeys the
weekend before Thanksgiving, said Jennifer Mallan, a church
spokeswoman. She said neither she nor White had heard of the dustup
before Tuesday.
"That's such a silly thing to protest," Mallan said. "If he wanted the
shirt off our back, he could have it. It just hurts when you're trying
to do the right thing (and someone complains)."
Mallan also said that Kersker and others certainly could meet with
White, and if someone told them differently, it wasn't true.
"He's always available to speak or meet; he's the pastor," she said.
"All this gentleman had to do is go through his office to get an
appointment."
In the meantime, Fruster fears that the complaints will scare donors
from chipping in next Thanksgiving. He said Kersker is hurting his own
cause.
"He just wants the attention," Fruster said. "What he's doing is going
to hinder our chances for (future donations). It'll have a negative
effect on the people who actually sponsored that meal.
"It's very counterproductive."
Still, he said he has no concerns about Sunday's protest.
"It's not going to bother us at all," said Fruster, who said church
members will be handing out 30,000 toys to needy families. "You can
never please everyone. So we go on."
* * *
Kersker is no stranger to protest.
Over the years, he has organized countless demonstrations to push for
more local homeless shelters. He has taken homeless people caroling in
St. Petersburg, singing lyrics such as, "I've got no home for
Christmas. I've got no place to go."
He has protested outside Tropicana Field, accusing the city of trying
to rid downtown of "bums, hobos (and) freaks" before the Devil Rays
began playing.
He has talked to Gov. Jeb Bush and Rep. C.W. Bill Young about getting
attention for hepatitis C, which he said he contracted last year.
He has crossed the bay in a luxury bus full of 50 homeless people to
protest the way Metropolitan Ministries spends its money.
Kersker himself has battled mental illness for years. He abused drugs
until about 1987. He spent time in a mental health hospital. He
credits religion and a drug treatment program for giving him a new
life. He says he is married to God.
And that, he said, is really the heart of Sunday's protest. He cites
White, who owns a Bayshore Boulevard mansion and a handful of luxury
cars, among other assets.
Kersker said a pastor so wealthy, and a church so rich, should follow
through by buying homeless folks the meal he says they were promised.
His goal?
"The least we'd like is an apology from Randy and a Carrabba's
dinner," he said. "We would love the apology and the dinner."
- Times researcher Kitty Bennett contributed to this report, which
used information from Times archives.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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21 Dec 2003 01:12:26 PM |
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(golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0312211102.f7ba404@posting.google.com:
Point wrote in message
news:<avabuv06aiannfksbtv1d9k24h0r371dmg@4ax.com>...
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
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Causing women to die rather than abort isn't pro-life. Causing
population increases when there are hungry people, including
women and children, everywhere is downright viciously
irresponsible. You were not ever intended to worship any human
beings, but to empathize with them should you progress to such a
degree in your thinking and the level of civilization in your
emotional perspective.
Do you ever in any way actually manage to do anything which
diminishes rather than increases the challenges to women in
procreation and childrearing? How many kids have you adopted,
yourself? How many have you saved from pollution and
malnutrition and a lack of a quality education or even the means
to acquire it in any way? How would you be making women more
likely to see pregnancies as viable for them?
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things just to
make you feel less guilty about the food you take from the
mouths of those already aware of it really seems to be based on
some conviction on your part that your lack of ability to
procreate could be resolved by force. Hurting people for no
valid reason is criminal action.
---end restore deteted text
Do you know what an argument is, retard, or do you think your
slobbering constitutes 'proof' that abortion isn't murder?
since the fact that abortion isn't murder has been documentedd
hundreds of times, many in posts you responded to, "Point" was
not making that argument as the text you deleted proves.
why did you lie?
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| User: "Point" |
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23 Dec 2003 05:47:45 AM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote in news:44e87bc2.0312211102.f7ba404@posting.google.com:
Point wrote in message news:<avabuv06aiannfksbtv1d9k24h0r371dmg@4ax.com>...
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
---begin insert deleted text
Causing women to die rather than abort isn't pro-life. Causing
population increases when there are hungry people, including
women and children, everywhere is downright viciously
irresponsible. You were not ever intended to worship any human
beings, but to empathize with them should you progress to such a
degree in your thinking and the level of civilization in your
emotional perspective.
Do you ever in any way actually manage to do anything which
diminishes rather than increases the challenges to women in
procreation and childrearing? How many kids have you adopted,
yourself? How many have you saved from pollution and
malnutrition and a lack of a quality education or even the means
to acquire it in any way? How would you be making women more
likely to see pregnancies as viable for them?
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things just to
make you feel less guilty about the food you take from the
mouths of those already aware of it really seems to be based on
some conviction on your part that your lack of ability to
procreate could be resolved by force. Hurting people for no
valid reason is criminal action.
---end restore deteted text
Do you know what an argument is, retard, or do you think your
slobbering constitutes 'proof' that abortion isn't murder?
since the fact that abortion isn't murder has been documented
hundreds of times, many in posts you responded to, "Point" was
not making that argument as the text you deleted proves.
why did you lie?
You are right to notice that 'golddodgearies' is dishonest and cruel.
Those who hate others, such as those who hate women, aren't
about to be honest.
They're unwilling to admit the way they make motherhood more,
not less, daunting for women.
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| User: "Point" |
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23 Dec 2003 05:49:27 AM |
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Hateful Dave (draymond@minister.com) blathered:
Point spake thusly:
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
... a racist. And a supporter of "Black Genocide."
You sure are, when you advocate things that will lead
to the deaths of black women ...
Nobody likes abortions or wants them.
Untrue.
You're untrue indeed, if you try to claim that anyone in this
whole wide world would prefer to have to abort.
Of course, your falseness is obvious in your hatred of
women and children.
Why don't you ever do anything to help anyone see
such parentage as more, rather than less, viable?
Those with some
brains and some ethics grant that they're necessary on
at least some occasions, and that the decision is that
of the woman herself.
Wrong again.
They're necessary where pregnancies aren't viable.
You are too ignorant to realize that, so it's only your
problem with your failure to know reality involved.
Spontaneous abortions are performed by your God.
Are you saying your deity would be wrong, too?
You make that statement based on ...
You hate facts, too, don't you.
Medical science can support life that wouldn't survive
in any other way. You could be kept on life support
even as a total vegetable with no hope at all. That
does not make it an appropriate use of technology.
There are real reasons why some pregnancies just
aren't feasible for some women. You shouldn't hate
all women so much that you'd murder those women.
Those without brains or ethics just keep on contributing
to the problems associated with motherhood and the
rearing of children while hoping to force it upon others
against their will.
The woman caused the situation
She caused lower pay for women? She caused the
environmental toxins and malnutrition that contribute
to birth defects? She caused a father to desert her?
, when she spread her
legs.
You really hate women, and you hate them so much
more because they're willing to have sex but never
with you.
And what of the father's? Fatherhood is forced
on them
You lie. Nobody forced them to avoid vasectomies.
, when they don't want it. And before you tell
me that they shouldn't have had sex, remember, that
same argument works for the woman.
Actually, were you not so clueless, you'd know that
even properly employed birth control can fail. When
that happens, further protection is required.
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things
just to make you feel less guilty about the food you take
from the mouths of those already aware of it really seems
to be based on some conviction on your part that your
lack of ability to procreate could be resolved by force.
Hurting people for no valid reason is criminal action.
If you're so concerned about people "hurting people",
I'll point out that you're a vicious hypocritical creep.
then why not teach these women to keep their legs
closed. They won't do it, you say? Then shut up.
Stop blaming others for their problems.
Why does the idea of healthy normal people having
sex drive you so batty?
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not ...
You have not managed to handle yourself appropriately,
it's no wonder you can't handle external reality.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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23 Dec 2003 09:00:48 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:49:27 -0500, Point spake thusly:
Hateful Dave (draymond@minister.com) blathered:
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
I will note here at the beginning of this message, that
all you seem to do throughout this message is lie and
attempt to shift blame.
You lie about why women get abortions. The reality is
that approximately 95% of them get abortions for
reasons of inconvenience and not health. And those
numbers come from your camp. Go look it up.
You also try to claim that it is those who do not wish
to see babies murdered, who are "forcing women to have
children" and "murdering them". Both are ridiculous
claims and it isn't my fault that they can't control
themselves. When your daughter comes home pregnant at
15, don't get upset. Just take a look in the mirror
and you'll know where she got that attitude from.
Point spake thusly:
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
... a racist. And a supporter of "Black Genocide."
You sure are, when you advocate things that will lead
to the deaths of black women ...
Nobody likes abortions or wants them.
Untrue.
You're untrue indeed, if you try to claim that anyone in this
whole wide world would prefer to have to abort.
Of course, your falseness is obvious in your hatred of
women and children.
Why don't you ever do anything to help anyone see
such parentage as more, rather than less, viable?
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
What I said is true. There are women who do prefer
abortion. That's why they get them. Very few do it
for health reasons.
Those with some
brains and some ethics grant that they're necessary on
at least some occasions, and that the decision is that
of the woman herself.
Wrong again.
They're necessary where pregnancies aren't viable.
Are they? Why isn't it viable? In what sense?
You are too ignorant to realize that, so it's only your
problem with your failure to know reality involved.
Spontaneous abortions are performed by your God.
Are you saying your deity would be wrong, too?
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
You make that statement based on ...
You hate facts, too, don't you.
Medical science can support life that wouldn't survive
in any other way. You could be kept on life support
even as a total vegetable with no hope at all. That
does not make it an appropriate use of technology.
There are real reasons why some pregnancies just
aren't feasible for some women. You shouldn't hate
all women so much that you'd murder those women.
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
I have not murdered anyone and women having babies,
does not equate to me murdering anyone.
Those without brains or ethics just keep on contributing
to the problems associated with motherhood and the
rearing of children while hoping to force it upon others
against their will.
The woman caused the situation
She caused lower pay for women?
If she is so concerned about that, then why have sex
outside of marriage, when you know you can get
pregnant?
She caused the
environmental toxins and malnutrition that contribute
to birth defects?
Well, in that case, let's all stop having babies and
end the human race. How's that? Does that suit you
better?
She caused a father to desert her?
You assume every dad has deserted the mother. The fact
is, that many men never even know there was a pregnancy
and never had the opportunity to be a dad.
More false accusations. The liberal rant.
, when she spread her
legs.
You really hate women, and you hate them so much
more because they're willing to have sex but never
with you.
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
I happen to be married. But you are so desperate to
find some way to attack me, since you know that you
have no point to make, that you don't care if what you
say is true or not.
The fact is, that when a woman spreads her legs, she
might get pregnant. So to blame me for her having a
child, is ridiculous, at best.
And what of the father's? Fatherhood is forced
on them
You lie. Nobody forced them to avoid vasectomies.
No, no one did. But you people make the conversation
about women. Also, the difference is, that it would be
permanent if the man did that. But I guess your hatred
of men allows for that type of thinking.
, when they don't want it. And before you tell
me that they shouldn't have had sex, remember, that
same argument works for the woman.
Actually, were you not so clueless, you'd know that
even properly employed birth control can fail. When
that happens, further protection is required.
And there it is. The man should make himself
permanently unable to have children, but the woman
should be free to continue having sex and killing
babies.
Your desperate attempts to force people to endure things
just to make you feel less guilty about the food you take
from the mouths of those already aware of it really seems
to be based on some conviction on your part that your
lack of ability to procreate could be resolved by force.
Hurting people for no valid reason is criminal action.
If you're so concerned about people "hurting people",
I'll point out that you're a vicious hypocritical creep.
Your attacks mean nothing, except that they reveal that
you are the one who is hateful.
What's hypocritical, is your attitude toward what men
should do, versus what women should do.
then why not teach these women to keep their legs
closed. They won't do it, you say? Then shut up.
Stop blaming others for their problems.
Why does the idea of healthy normal people having
sex drive you so batty?
Why does the idea of being a responsible adult and
people taking responsibility for their actions, drive
you so batty?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"There are only two possibilities as to how life
arose. One is spontaneous generation arising to
evolution; the other is a supernatural creative
act of God. There is no third possibility.
Spontaneous generation, that life arose from
non-living matter was scientifically disproved
120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That
leaves us with the only possible conclusion that
life arose as a supernatural creative act of God.
I will not accept that philosophically because I
do not want to believe in God. Therefore, I choose
to believe in that which I know is scientifically
impossible; spontaneous generation arising to
evolution." - (Wald, George, "Innovation and
Biology," Scientific American, Vol. 199,
Sept. 1958, p. 100)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Oppressing Populations is Wrongdoing |
21 Dec 2003 01:19:05 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:12:26 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> spake thusly:
golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0312211102.f7ba404@posting.google.com:
Point wrote in message
news:<avabuv06aiannfksbtv1d9k24h0r371dmg@4ax.com>...
A Planet Visitor <abcxyz@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
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Causing women to die rather than abort isn't pro-life.
Murdering babies isn't pro-life. You keep wanting to
blame others for the actions of the women.
Causing
population increases when there are hungry people, including
women and children, everywhere is downright viciously
irresponsible.
Yes, it is, so why don't you tell those women to close
their legs?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
In the beginning, God created...
And He did it in six days and said He did it in six
days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed that and
referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8 and in other places.
The original Hebrew word for "day" ("yom"), is never
used to mean anything but a literal day in the Bible,
when it has a definite article ("the") in front of it
and every other instance of "yom" in the Old Testament,
when a numerical adjective is present ("second, third,
etc.), is of a literal day. Are we to believe that this
is somehow the one exception?
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| User: "Krisblake" |
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| Title: Re: Oppressing Populations is Wrongdoing |
22 Dec 2003 07:09:34 AM |
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On 21 Dec 2003 11:02:35 -0800,
(golddodgearies) wrote:
[snip]
Do you know what an argument is...
To whom are you responding?
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